Spies Like Them  

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Who:
Rating:
*****
Information:
Level:65
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Task
Quest Goal:
  • Loot
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
Related Creatures:
Related Quests:
Era:Depths of Darkhollow
Recommended:
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:3
Max. # of Players:6
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Wed Sep 14 23:56:06 2005
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
You say, 'Hail, Tisthal Gimblecranz'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'Diggity dreams! Are you real? Seeing you so reminds me of the lands far above me -- lands I will likely never see again. There is too much work to do here. For example, I'm doing some very interesting studies on dead drachnids. You see, they have this strange ability to use the skins of their victims to take the form of that victim -- I call it 'skinwalking.' I used to know an enchanter by the name of Binzelfal that could use illusions to change his form, but this is much, much different. I need to learn more but have run into a [problem].'

You say, 'What problem?'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'The only skinwalkers I have encountered are, well, dead as dirt! This is a problem because death appears to destroy all
enchantments and [preparations] made to the skin that allowed the skinwalking.'

You say, 'What preparations?'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'Are you thick or what? I just explained why I don't know. Sheesh. I see Norrathians have gotten no smarter since my departure. Now, listen this time. The skins from the dead skinwalkers have been absolutely no help at all. Get me? I'm sure if I could [gather some skins] that have not been used to skinwalk I could make some leaps in
my studies. Well, hops maybe -- my joints are rusty. Tee hee! I still have my wit even as a tin can . . . Anyway, back to what I was saying. There are likely some [other aspects] involved in using the skins as well.'

You say, 'What other aspects?'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'It's my contention that the drachnids are not familiar enough with other races to perfectly impersonate them. They must study the race or have some sort of training. I've been itching to discover where they pick up that knowledge -- or maybe it's just that rust build-up. Ha ha! I did it again. Funny, huh? Where was I? Oh right. Could I get you to [venture] into the hive and see what you can find out for me? If the skinwalkers aren't eliminated, or at least reduced in numbers, their actions could cause disasters beyond your small imagination.'

You say, 'I will venture into the hive.'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'I'm not sure what you would be looking for in there so keep your eyes open. If you can find any writings or see any training that would be perfect. Oh, there is probably one [other thing] I should mention.'

You say, 'What other thing?'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'You're not exactly the first person to go searching for answers. A friend of mine, Geeble Tripcrank, went in several days ago searching for these skinwalkers. I haven't heard back from him and I'm afraid he might be in trouble. If you could check in on him and see if he's okay I would really appreciate it.'

You have been assigned the task 'Spies Like Them'

If you are not high enough in level...

You say, 'I will venture into the hive.'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'I don't know that you have the experience needed to survive an encounter with the skinwalkers. Go gain a bit more experience adventuring and return to me when you feel you are strong enough.

You say, 'I can gather some skins.'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'I appreciate your offer to help, but I don't know that you would be able to wrest the skins away from the drachnids. Return to me once you have gained a bit more experience and we may be able to work something out.'

Both denials of help offers came at 62nd level. What level is the minimum?

The Hive - Search for Geeble Tripcrank

Geeble spawns at -325, +520, +27. This is in the tunnel that leads north from the east tower/obelisk to the first hive. Your compass will indicate the direction. Tell Geeble that Gimblecranz sent you.

The Hive - Slay any skinwalkers you find

There are skinwalkers up top at each of The Hive entrances. Kill them until until you see a message saying the task stage is completed. It may be random. When this occurs an Unreadable Book will appear on the cursor of a party member.

The Hive - Find your way into the training chambers of the skinwalkers

Take the group down and past Geeble, then up a ramp to the outside in the next room. Outside, there is a path to the instanced zone.

Coven of the Skinwalkers - Kill all of the skinwalkers in the training session

The zone is The Cocoons on Hard setting.

You have to kill 32 skinwalkers across multiple levels to complete this stage. You should be invisible on zone-in, since one patroller paths past the zone-in. The patroller will occasionally see invisible.

Your task 'Spies Like Them (Hard)' has been updated.

With the elimination of those skinwalkers the threat has been delayed, but as long as their abilities allow them to move undetected as other races it can never be eliminated. Return the book you found to Tisthal, perhaps he can decipher it and figure out a new way to detect the skinwalkers.

You gain experience!!

You have been given: Gemstone of The Faceless Emperor

Normal Reward (Average level less than 68)
Casters: Drachnid Collective Earring
Melee: Hive Sentinel Ring

Normal Reward (Average level 68+)
Casters: Hivegrime Stone of Musing
Melee: Hivegrime Stone of Stamina

Hard Reward
Casters: Hive Silk Mantle
Melee: Viscous Grimcoat Ring

"a wooden chest" Loot
Cocoon Handler Gloves (Normal)
Crimson Stained Amice (Normal)
Crystal Web Mace (Hard)
Crystalline Webbing of Vitality (Hard)
Drachnid Sentry Shield (Hard)
Spun Drachnid Silk Pants (Hard)

On handing an Unreadable Book in to Tishal back in Corathus Creep:


Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'You've undoubtedly saved many people from the trouble those skinwalkers could have caused. With Geeble's return and the information you gathered I should be able to form a much better theory about the process of training a skinwalker -- hopefully enough to create some magic to see through their illusion, or possibly even render it ineffective!'

There is no experience or faction for completing this optional step.

All other information needed: what NPCs are encountered, task update messages, any faction involved, rewards, zones, /loc of quest mobs, etc.
Submitted by: Siega of The Seventh Hammer
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Enchanted Drachnid Silk Cuffs
# Jan 11 2006 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
41 posts
Today 4 boxed (PAL, DRU, ENC, CLR) this mission (normal version) and looted "Enchanted Drachnid Silk Cuffs" on the chest.
Thanks.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83757

Entrance of instance is same as 69 - 4 (Cicero).
After finished 3 objective instructions in The Hive (Static zone), Btw.


[70 Lord] Notung Startaker of Karana <Fortune Kiss>
The Tribunal (Ayonae Ro) Server.
where is zone in?
# Dec 27 2005 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
Where is the zone-in in stoneroot? Loc please?

Edited, Tue Dec 27 12:16:37 2005
bug'd
# Dec 19 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
Bug'd for my group on last part as well. we killed everything we could and got chest but no win. no idea why. /petition in atm, we will see if we get rewards for it or not.
RE: bug'd
# Dec 24 2005 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
we got the same bug. finished the mission but no update and no reward. we all petitioned and got the standard BS reply from Sony. "we could not verify you did this mission". so if you do it and don't get credit for it well then you are just screwed. dont bother to petition it will do absolutely no good. you will just have to do it again /sigh
RE: bug'd
# Dec 20 2005 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
We had the same problem, On the 3rd time doing it we got the task update after killing all the mobs.

The first time we had pets up and no update,

the 2nd time had no pets up, BUT had AA pet up at time of death and no update.

3rd and final attempt had NO pets or aa pets up and we GOT THE UPDATE.

We petitioned and there response was to fill out a bug report. So we filled a /bug report out.

Hope this helps, I know I was frustrated after spending time and not getting reward/credit for completion
another drop
# Dec 17 2005 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
Dropped off of ramdom trash mob Reg (NOT HARD)

Gory Belt
Slot: Waist
AC: 15
Focus Effect: Ikaav Vision
Str: +10 Sta: +8 Wis: +14 INT: +14 AGI: 12 HP: +170 Mana: 180
SV Fire: +15 SV Disease: +11 SV Cold:+15
Regeneration: +3
Recommended level of 70. Required level of 61.
WT: 1.0 Size: Small
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: All
Slot 1, Type 7: empty

Ikaav Vision
Spell Effect: Increases the range of most beneficial spells up to level 70.

Bloddied Drachnid Tome
Slot: primary secondary
AC: 10
Focus Effect: vengeance of eternity
Dex: +9 Sta: +10 Cha: +13 Wis: +12 Int: +12 HP: +135 Mana +135
SV Disease: +11 SV Magic: +15 SV Poison +15
Recommendad lvel of 70. Reqiered level of 63
WT: 0.0 Size: medium
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1: type 7: empty

Vengeance of Eternity
Spell Effect: increase the damage done by long term detrimental spells. This effect works on spells up to level 67.

Chest drop from Reg Mission

Enchanted Drachnid Silk Cuffs
Magic Item Lore Item No Trade
Slot: Wrist
AC: 11
Str: +8 Dex: +10 Sta: +10 Cha: +13 Int: +13 HP: +165 Mana: +175
SV Disease: +15 SV Magic: +20 SV Poison: +15
Mana Regeneration: +3
DoT Shielding: +4
Recommended level of 70. Required level of 63
WT: 1.5 Size: Medium
Class: NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: All
Slot 1, Type 7: empty

Random drop from HARD mission

Drachnid Leg
Magic Item Lore Item No Trade Augmentation
This Augmentation fits in slot types: 7,8
HP: +60

Restrictions-
Slot: EAR HEAD FACE NECK SHOULDERS ARMS BACK WRIST RANGE HANDS PRIMARY SECONDARY FINGERS CHEST LEGS FEET WAIST
Recommended level of 66. Required level of 61.
Class: All
Race: All

Item Information:
You must use the solvent class XV Augmentation Distiller to remove this augment safely.

Chest Drop from hard

Drachnid Sentry Shield
Slot: Secondary
AC: 65
STR: +14 Dex: +12 Sta: +13 Agi: +12 HP: +195 Mana: +195 Endurance: +195
SV Fire: +15 SV Cold: +15 SV Magic +20
Required level of 70
WT: 5.5 Size: Giant
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG
Race: All
Slot 1, Type 7: empty


Edited, Tue Dec 20 12:42:40 2005
drop
# Dec 05 2005 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
Finished this last night and dropped Crystalline webbing of ....... 95 hp AUG all slots type 7,8
drop from chest
# Dec 02 2005 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83837

Dropped on Hard Mission in chest

Crystal Web Mace
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 19
DMG: 21 Dmg Bonus: 15 AC: 14
STR: +12 DEX: +12 STA: +12 CHA: +10 WIS: +13 HP: +190 MANA: +200
SV DISEASE: +18 SV COLD: +18 SV POISON: +18
Required level of 70.
Effect: Theft of Thought (Combat) at Level 70
WT: 2.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: CLR DRU SHM
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4

Melee Reward on Hard is

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83812

Viscous Grimcoat Ring
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: FINGER
AC: 17
STR: +12 STA: +13 WIS: +14 INT: +14 AGI: +19 HP: +190 MANA: +200 ENDUR: +200
SV DISEASE: +25 SV COLD: +20 SV POISON: +25
Accuracy: +10
Required level of 70.
WT: 0.4 Size: SMALL
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7

Caster Reward is

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83813

Hive Silk Mantle
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 21
DEX: +14 STA: +12 CHA: +13 WIS: +19 INT: +19 HP: +200 MANA: +190
SV DISEASE: +20 SV COLD: +20 SV POISON: +25
Stun Resist: +3% Regeneration: +3 Mana Regeneration: +3
Required level of 70.
Focus: Focus of Distance
WT: 0.9 Size: SMALL
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7

Edited, Fri Dec 2 17:06:47 2005
BUGGED!!
# Nov 19 2005 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
This quest was bugged for me as well. Attempted the quest on November 19, 2005. Went off without a hitch, until 4th part of mission with description that reads, "kill all the skinwalkers in the training session." As listed by various other posts, there were 32 mobs in the zone, all pretty easy. Killed them all. Track revealed no stragglers that we missed. However, we did not receive credit for this portion of the quest. Petitioned it, no response yet (go figure). We'll see how it turns out. Anyways, just wanted to let u guys know.
RE: BUGGED!!
# Nov 23 2005 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
There can be no pets up before you kill the last mob in this. It seems to be counting them as npc's and is not recognizing all npc's dead. This happened to us quite a while back. Not sure if that is the problem you are having. I petitioned it and the GM had no clue. Did a /bugreport. Hope this helps.

We also ran into a problem with the script with Geeble. Make sure he has despawned before you enter the instance to receieve proper credit.

Edited, Wed Nov 23 23:10:29 2005
Bug
# Nov 17 2005 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
This quest was bugged for us after we killed 32. The only explanation that might be possible is that two group members were invited midway in task.
RE: Bug
# Feb 16 2006 at 3:40 AM Rating: Decent
49 posts
Maybe there are sometimes only 31 mobs in the zone?

We have done this multiple times with pets up, cleared the zone and got task updated + reward.

Recently we got no task update, and I found only 31 kills in my log file.

Maybe I missed one during rezz?

Maybe all have to be present when mobs die?

There is lot of guessing, but it is still bugged sometimes.

evil Coerl
Hard Mission Drop
# Oct 30 2005 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
Completed the hard mission today, and Hive Silk Mantle dropped for me (a Necro) as the reward:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83813

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 16
DEX: +12 STA: +9 CHA: +10 WIS: +13 INT: +13 HP: +130 MANA: +120
SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV POISON: +15
Regeneration: +3 Mana Regeneration: +3
Required level of 70.
Focus: Focus of Distance
WT: 0.9 Size: SMALL
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7

Deathands
70 Necro

Edited, Sun Oct 30 01:59:59 2005
whaa?
# Oct 21 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
This quest is mislabeled, it is in fact "Spies like them," not Skinwalking.

Edited, Fri Oct 21 14:31:55 2005
Spies like Them - partial task list
# Oct 08 2005 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
Sage
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239 posts
Search for Geeble Tripcrank 0/1 The Hive
Slay any skinwalkers you find 0/1 The Hive
Find your way into the training chambers of the skinwalkers 0/1 The Hive
Kill all of the skinwalkers in the training session 0/1 Coven of the Skinwalkers

Notes:
1) There are skinwalkers up top of each of the 2 hive entrances, kill there until Geeble pops if not up
2) He popped for us in the base of the first hive, Edhil our ranger could see that from the second. You send someone down several levels and out a north exit, Geeble is to the side at n324, p522, n27.
3) Remember to tell Geeble that Tisthal Gimblecranz sent you
4) Go back to killing skinwalkers till you see an information found message, its random.
5) When you get that, take the group down to Geeble, past him and up a ramp to the outside in the next room. Out there is a path to the instanced zone
6) In the instanced zone you have to clear 32 skinwalkers to win. They are across multiple levels. You should zone in invis since one patroller paths past the zone in.

Rewards for mission(stone pops on cursor, gemstone in inventory):
Hivegrime Stone of Stamina for melee types http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83748
Hivegrime Stone of Musing for casters http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=83749
Gemstone of the Faceless Emperor (for Vestiges of Emperor quest)

Edited, Sun Oct 9 15:35:56 2005
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Voidslayer Jhereg, Destroyer of Worlds, Monk, <Celestial Navigators>, Drinal server
Vanidor Silverbranch, Wizard, <Celestial Navigators>, Drinal server
RE: Spies like Them - partial task list
# Oct 25 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
Was this Normal or Hard version?
RE: Spies like Them - partial task list
# Nov 02 2005 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
Sage
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239 posts
It was the normal version, even with 5 level 70's and me(68th level) I don't think we could get the hard version. I believe it has to be all 70th level?
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Voidslayer Jhereg, Destroyer of Worlds, Monk, <Celestial Navigators>, Drinal server
Vanidor Silverbranch, Wizard, <Celestial Navigators>, Drinal server
RE: Spies like Them - partial task list
# Dec 27 2005 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
Where is the zone-in in the hive or in stoneroot?

Edited, Tue Dec 27 11:38:50 2005
Text at lv70
# Oct 03 2005 at 11:16 AM Rating: Decent
You say, 'I will venture'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'I'm not sure what you would be looking for in there so keep your eyes open. If you can find any writings or see any training that would be perfect. Oh, there is probably one [other thing] I should mention.'

Task window pops up with two tasks:

Spies Like Them
Spies Like Them (hard)

Search the hive for any information on the skinwalkers. Make sure you keep an eye out for Geeble.


You say, 'what other thing'

Tisthal Gimblecranz says 'You're not exactly the first person to go searching for answers. A friend of mine, Geeble Tripcrank, went in several days ago searching for these skinwalkers. I haven't heard back from him and I'm afraid he might be in trouble. If you could check in on him and see if he's okay I would really appreciate it.'
Got the missions at 70
# Sep 14 2005 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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285 posts
I don't know the minimum level, but I was given the quests at 70, I accepted the "gather some skins" task which sent my group to Stoneroot Falls to find an instance, but two members went LD on the way and we called it a night before even getting to the right zone.
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