Evil Research  

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Level:10
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Loot
  • Tradeskill
Faction Required:
Dark Bargainers (Min: Indifferent)
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Factions Lowered:
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    Era:Original
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    Group Size:Solo
    Min. # of Players:1
    Max. # of Players:1
    Appropriate Classes:
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    Entered: Fri Jun 16 18:16:32 2000
    Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
    Smith Tv`Ysa may be found at +2095, -1200 post-revamp.

    You say, 'Hail, Smith Tv`ysa'

    Smith Tv`ysa says 'I am Tv`ysa, guardian of the [Concordance of Research].'

    You say, 'What Concordance of Research?'

    Smith Tv`ysa says 'The 'Concordance of Research' is an aid to those who follow the path of academia. It, and its sister books, 'Runes and Research', volumes I and II, help those who are [interested] in researching spells.'

    You say, 'I am interested.'

    Smith Tv`ysa says 'I have several copies of each book. If you want a copy of 'Runes and Research', volume I or II, bring me a lightstone and I will give you whichever book I have more of at the moment. Bring me a greater lightstone, and I will give you a copy of the 'Concordance of Research.''

    Hand in a Lightstone:

    Smith Tv`ysa says 'A lightstone ? Thank you very much. Here is a copy of 'Runes and Research' for you.'
    Your faction standing with Dark Bargainers has been adjusted by 10.
    Your faction standing with Dreadguard Outer has been adjusted by 1.
    Your faction standing with Dreadguard Inner has been adjusted by 1.
    You gain experience!!

    Hand in a Greater Lightstone:

    Smith Tv`ysa says 'A greater lightstone? Thank you very much. Here is a 'Concordance of Research' for you.'
    Your faction standing with Dark Bargainers has been adjusted by 10.
    Your faction standing with Dreadguard Outer has been adjusted by 1.
    Your faction standing with Dreadguard Inner has been adjusted by 1.
    You gain experience!!

    At Dubious she says:
    Smith Tv`ysa says, 'After all the things you've done... the things you believe in... leave my shop!'

    At Apprehensive she says:
    Smith Tv`ysa says, 'I didn't know Slime could speak common. Go back to the sewer before I lose my temper.'
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    Iksar Not KOS
    # Nov 11 2001 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
    Hail, my fellow Iksar bretheren. I was haveing a little talk with another of my brood(Necromancer) and I was telling him i wanted to get some good faction with Neriak. He told me to do this quest first, then the Red Wine quest. What he also told me is that he started indiff or apreahensively to the DE in SRO. I havn't checked this out myself but once I hit lvl 20 you can expect to here this messege in EC alot."WTB GLS, send tells" :-)

    P.S. Hope this help clearing up any questions I hope to see more Iksar in the rest of Norrath now. Good Luck and may Cazic bless you.
    Ogre Shammy could not do this
    # Oct 24 2001 at 12:33 PM Rating: Default
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    I am a lvl 14 shammy and tried this quest. I gave the GLS over and NOTHING!! No faction, no XP. I gave a stone to each DE figuring I may have picked the wrong one and NONE worked. I guess my faction is not good enough for the quest. I did not try the invis trick. That may work. Oh well, 6 GLS down the drain!!
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 14 2001 at 10:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I did the evil research with my Iksar shadowknight. I didn't need invisible to deal with the DE gypsies. I killed some halflings along the way and finally got guard faction. 2 nights of buying and selling GLS. And got killed by Divn L'Crit in Neriak foreign quarter. You can avoid him by climbing the wall to the right at the pillar. He usually stays in the Hall of the Fallen, right behind the door. He is a shadow knight of TheDead faction. But I still need to get enough faction for inner guards.
    evil research
    # Sep 06 2001 at 7:16 PM Rating: Excellent
    The invis thing worked, i went from apprehensive to amible with just 17 light stones, (amible to the merchents) but i was threatenly still to the inner guards :( , Some npc named Divn L'crit killed me with some spell. i also noticed that from the enterance into neriack, you can con the 3 sisters up on the top wall. they were threatenly to my monk, and i havent had the chance to turn in more lightstones to the DE merchant.
    Evil resarch
    # Aug 26 2001 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
    I havea 20th iskar monk (follows Cazic Thule) I entered the 3rd gate with a DE chanter friend and tried to turn in the red wine, i was apprehensive atm , but even with the chanter casting alliance on him i was still not able to get the faction gain, but i was getting the xp gain ? I'll try the invis part in so ro, i was to nervous the 1st time running thru Neriack and haveing to FD when my invis dropped :p
    I'll post again to see if the invis part works on the DE merchants, and for the red wine quest.
    RE: Evil resarch
    # Jun 26 2002 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
    Enchanter and Bard faction adjusting spells/songs are self only effects. They won't help anyone else raise faction.
    RE: Evil resarch
    # Apr 22 2005 at 5:35 AM Rating: Decent
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    Um, This was originally posted a very long time ago. If you still find that to be true, you should /bug it. I believe that the spell descriptions both say "group".
    RE: Evil resarch
    # Mar 21 2002 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
    Use FD and or sneak when handing in and do it from behind them if you con indifferant hand it in

    16ikr monk 45brd 32war 26clr 17enc 17 shm
    Bloodmobile
    # Aug 08 2001 at 12:53 AM Rating: Default
    I am a lev20 Iksar Nec.Can i do this quest?My friends tell me that iksar is almost KOS anywhere.
    But for my suck research skill then i really need the book to raise my skill.
    Any iksar Nec did this quest already?
    PLZ give me a mail
    teacherlee@pchome.com.tw
    Thanks a lot
    A lev 20 NEC
    Bloodmobile in TN server
    Iksar...
    # Aug 03 2001 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
    How can I do the Evil research quest if I am KOS to dark elf...
    lvl 17 NEc Iksar
    RE: Iksar...
    # Aug 06 2001 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
    I found out how fianlly... I simply had to find someone to give her the GLS.. then give me the book.. which i am gonnatry to use now... we splitted the money for the other GLS I had. not too bad
    Who do I sell the books to?
    # Jul 29 2001 at 2:47 PM Rating: Default
    I have Greater Light Stones, and I can turn them in to the gypsy in North Karana. I get a book from her, which for my paladin character is totally useless. I read that it sells for around 8pp, but I don't think the merchants pay that price so I'm guessing that the only way to get 8pp for that book is to sell it to another player. Can anyone verify that? Maybe there is a merchant that you can sell the book to who will pay 8pp for it, but I haven't run accross any such merchant yet.
    RE: Who do I sell the books to?
    # Dec 19 2002 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
    Depending on your faction and charisma, merchants will pay that much.

    HOWEVER, in my personal experience (now this was with the Karana Gypsies, not the Dark Elves) the merchant NEXT to the quest character paid me on average 6-11 gold MORE than the one I gave the stones to for the concordance.

    It always pays to shop around. Even if it's the merchant right next to you.
    RE: Who do I sell the books to?
    # Nov 30 2001 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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    I receive 8pp and 8 gold per book from the same gypsy that gave me the book. Make sure you sell it back (rightclick her first) and not just give it to her in trade screen.
    RE: Who do I sell the books to?
    # Jul 30 2001 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
    Technically if you have good faction with nk merchants, you can sell the book to the gypsy that give it (I also use to get 10pp for it).
    Dark Bargainers Faction
    # Jun 26 2001 at 12:59 AM Rating: Default
    You killed the wrong person if you are dubious to your own race. Fortunately for you, there is a way to bring it back up but you will likely need some help. Read the section on the red wine quest which is in the Third Gate of Neriak. If you try to do this, likely you will get a response like, "Your reputation precedes you. You are no friend to the Dark Bargainers." However, if you get someone to invis you, then hand over the red wine but dont click trade, have them invis you again while the trade window is open and then press trade, it will work. Have fun searching for hours for someone who will invis you in the furthest zone in Neriak.
    Wolf Form
    # Jun 25 2001 at 12:46 PM Rating: Default
    Just get wolf form from a druid. Should con amiable and be able to do the quest.
    I hate this quesr !!
    # Jun 25 2001 at 2:05 AM Rating: Default
    this quest sucks, im a dark elf, i ruined my faction with the merchants to dubious and i cant raise it in any way, killing halflings doesnt bring it up, turning the stuff in the smith doesnt work, she hates me. Will they ever make a quest to raise dark bargainers faction, when your dubious ??
    RE: I hate this quesr !!
    # Aug 03 2001 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
    you and me in same boat i was tricked into grouping with a guard killer at lvl 1 now my merchants hate me. if that guy ever needs help though for him. the punk i didn't know about the wine questr and was thinking about going to freeport then i found out about the red wine quist and was mad about missing it but heard about the killing quest so i killed to biath and that was it for my merchants and the girl no take head made me mad.

    the lvl 16 necro,Elmore
    the reathe.
    RE: I hate this quesr !!
    # Jan 02 2002 at 7:44 PM Rating: Default
    nevermind guys i fixed the problem and am lvl 20 with 7 other toons rising nicly

    lvl 20 necro dark elf elmore
    lvl 14 rogue dark elf kellir
    and more(<:
    #Anonymous, Posted: Sep 02 2001 at 6:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) damn...learn to speak english!
    RE: I hate this quesr !!
    # Sep 21 2001 at 2:37 PM Rating: Default
    Why? Any good reasons?
    RE: I hate this quesr !!
    # Sep 25 2001 at 6:43 PM Rating: Default
    By asking why, and for what reason(s), proves you're a non-english speaking/writing dolt!
    RE: I hate this quesr !!
    # Feb 19 2003 at 3:11 PM Rating: Default
    [Sarcasm On] Yes, remember: if you do not speak english, or even if you do but it's not your first language, not only are you a dolt, but you are inferior and do not deserve to play a game like everquest. [Sarcasm Off] You need to do better things with your time if you're on a quest forum and posting about spelling mistakes. Of course, I'm posting about your post, so what does that say?
    Evil Research
    # Jun 05 2001 at 6:36 AM Rating: Default
    give the lightstones and GLS to the Smith, in the Evil Merchant camp in SRO
    All you need to Know
    # May 31 2001 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
    Anyone who is NOT KOS can do this quest. An LS or a GLS give the same amount of faction and Exp. The Merchant in SRO is SMITH T'Vsya (not too sure of the spelling of the last name - look for the first name of SMITH)

    Try 1 LS if you do not get faction and XP you will need help from a player who can invis you. CHA gear makes no differance.

    To do this with an invis - hand her the lightstones 1,2,3,or 4 makes no difference other than you are getting the XP and faction per lightstone. BEFORE you hit the GIVE button get your partner to Invis you then hit give you will get XP and faction your partner (if still grouped) will get XP only - no faction.

    This Quest works great for faction and since a recent patch you get Dread guard inner and outer faction EVEN IF your Dark Bargainers faction is maxed - I should know my Halfling Druid now has Allied faction with the Dark Bargainers. And FYI he started Dubious and handed in about 120 lightstones to get to the point where he could hand them in without an Invis, I guess he was about as close to KOS with the Dark Bargainers as you get without actually being there.

    All the other tricks don't seem to make a differance - I tried tree form, wolf form etc before the invis trick none of them did any good but the invis does work.
    RE: All you need to Know
    # Nov 17 2001 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
    I am a DE mage. I handed a LS to Smith T'Vysa and she gave me a concordance book in return. Should I just sell the book right back to her?

    I'm not sure the book is worth more than selling her a LS itself.

    Or are there merchants in Neriak who will buy it (as some earlier posts suggest)? Or is that a different quest?

    Puzzled-as-to-how-to-get-the-best-cash

    P.S. I forgot to check my faction, but she will sell to me.
    Faction Nerfs
    # May 14 2001 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
    You get XP and items, but no faction, from a charmed NPC.

    You get XP and items, but no faction, if you are turned invisble between putting items in trade and actually hitting trade.

    They may have even nerfed the invis part to remove ability to do quest whatsoever. Whee.
    Screw this Chick!
    # May 06 2001 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
    Ok, I went to S Ro. If this is the right person, it's Smyth somethin'. Well, she was appre to me, and I gave her a lightstone, and she said somethin about not wantin to deal with me. I don't know what to do, but I don't want to kill more greens for DE faction. I'll be happy with Dubious. This Quest sucks.


    Nikiny
    Lvl 30, Warrior
    Quellious
    #Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2001 at 6:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) whats the name and loc of the dark elf vendor at sout ro?
    Iksar with halotosis?
    # Mar 25 2001 at 4:17 AM Rating: Default
    I am a 33rd season Iksar Necromancer, and I want to bank somewhere besides cabilis. I start out Threateningly to the guards in Nok, considering this, and that im an evil necromancer why not DE city? So I start out killing halflings, killed about 75 id say maybe 100 and got to dubious, (So happy the higher greens stoped attacking my pet)
    So I'm like cool i should be able to walk in the city now, con the guards right outside city, dubious, go inside, con things on top of city and guards out front, dubious, walk past the 2 guards and someone I didnt see and didnt get a chance to conlays stuns me (no FD) next thing I know I've been slain after I writh in the grip of agony. My health bar still said 4 bubbles so im guessing this was a 50+ guard. Previous post says I should be ok except for 3rd gate, wondering why I'm still KoS and what I can do to fix this, wine quest is last resort. Any help would be appreciated.


    Btw if ever in a similar situation with your pet wipeing out guards and stone guardians do following so you dont have to suicide your pet/get negative faction. fear, pull pet, wait till hes walked a little distance, screaming terror, make sure your out of agro range by the time it wears off. Screaming terror has always mem blured for me if im out of agro range, if in agro range half the time they come right for me after terror wears off
    I have a Problem
    # Feb 17 2001 at 7:47 AM Rating: Default
    Im an Iksar monk and I am trying to better my faction with Neraik. I killed tons of halflings and now the guards outside of Neriak con amiable to me. However the 3 merchants con apprehensive to me, (thats better than KOS I know), but when I hail the merchant in the middle she doesn't say anything and when I giver her a lightstone it doesn't work. Do I have to give her more than 1 lightstone? What should I do this is very important for me to raise faction with the inner guards so I can freely travel Neriak.
    Any help would be apprechiated.
    Thanks
    RE: I have a Problem
    # Feb 17 2001 at 7:51 AM Rating: Default
    Also what is the merchants name?
    what's next?
    # Feb 08 2001 at 3:07 AM Rating: Default
    Is there anything i can do except selling that "concordance of research" book? I see there is a combine button on it, is it for another quest?
    RE: what's next?
    # Feb 16 2001 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
    Its for practicing research for all reasearching caster classes. Its a mostly broken "trade skill" and one that doesnt really help all that much. Just sell it and keep the cash for it.
    RE: what's next?
    # Jun 17 2001 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
    I disagree on the "broken" trade skill, it helped my necromancer decrease her relyance on the training points (which can cost up to 10 plat per point trained) I personally try to keep my research maxed out.. you never know when that can help you combine some words, and get you a spell that you really need.
    great faction
    # Jan 10 2001 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
    this quest is a wonderfull way to get better faction with the merchants of neriak. my sk now gets 9 PP per tome after doing this quest several
    times
    Faction Required
    # Nov 02 2000 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default

    I tired this one with a 10th lvl Iksar monk to try and raise my faction. Conned apprehensive and she said she wouldn't help the likes of me. Very discouraging since at 10th lvl, running solo from Neriak to deliver these lightsones, is not very much fun.

    Anyways, have a Wood Elf Bard now about to hit 11th lvl and get my faction song. With that song will it be enough for me to do this quest? I don't want to have to make that run again (especially on a PvP server since there are mostly evils around here) if there's no way to get the experience for it.

    Thanks

    Elkazhor
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 03 2000 at 4:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) YOU DONT NEED TO USE THIS PERSON TO TURN THE STONES INTO. GOTO WESTERN KARANAS I BELIEVE, THERE IS A GYPSIE THERE THAT WILL TAKE THE STONES FROM YOU FOR THE SAME RESULTS BUT WITH GOOD(LIGHT) FACTION HITS.
    RE: Faction Required
    # Nov 23 2000 at 4:57 PM Rating: Default
    Actually the gypsy is in north karana. I can't remember her name, but it starts with a M. Those gypsies cover light races, and the ones in S. Ro take care of the dark races. Good luck at getting to NK alive at level 11.
    RE: Faction Required
    # Jan 13 2001 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
    Her name is Mrystar Loc -644 -167
    Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Oct 08 2000 at 5:16 PM Rating: Default
    Maybe it is not only faction, but also what class you are. I am an agnostic halfling rogue.

    She wouldn't talk about the quest, so I sneaked behind her, and then I got her to ask for the lightstones.

    Moving behind her again, I made sure that I got indifferent faction, but she still would not acknowledge me when I handed in a greater lightstone.

    Could some dark elf rogue check whether she would respond more favorably to a rogue that has good faction?
    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Jan 16 2001 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
    Well I gave this a pretty good test, as a Half Elf Ranger of Tunare I was able to sneak behind her, hand in the stones for faction, and am now up to Warmly with her.

    Just goes to show that a few bribes will make merchants trade with just about anyone.

    I'm still KoS with every guard I've checked in Nektulos though, including the gate guards.
    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Jan 23 2001 at 9:55 PM Rating: Default
    I am an agnostic Erudite Enchanter. I have been careful to avoid disputes with the Dark Elves, as I hope one day soon now to be able to walk the streets of their underground city freely.

    At 11th level, I went to see this Dark Elvish Smith. Wearing all my finest +CHA jewelry, I cast minor illusion on myself to void any racial biases and cast Alliance on her. She then conned amiable to me and was happy to sell me a Condordance of Research and 4 copies of book II of the instructions.

    P.S. I have poked around Netkulos Forest and peeked in the front door of Neriak. I con dubious to the gate guards and casting Alliance does not change that.
    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Feb 16 2001 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
    heh heh heh

    Just a thought... as an enchanter you have the luxury that no other class in the game has... you can make yourself into any other race in Norrath... with an ability like that who cares about faction ? ;)

    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # May 22 2001 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
    Even a natural born dark elf is hated by dark elves if he kills his own kind. The same is true for dark elf illusions. An illusion can change your "base faction" only (the faction you'd get for your natural race). Illusions don't change your religious or earned factions.
    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Oct 27 2000 at 9:22 AM Rating: Default
    I am a Woodelf rogue and follower of Bristlebane. Using the mask of deception I gave the smith the secret rogue handshake and handed her the lightstones. In return she gave the exp and faction adjustments. I started out the quest as threatening in dark elf disguise and after about 40 lightstones I am now amiable to the smith. Problem is I am still threatening to the dark elf guards in Nektulos. Hmmm. What's up with that?

    French Rogue
    Reckoning of Honor
    Tarew Marr
    RE: Even indifferent might not be enough
    # Oct 31 2000 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
    Are you threatening to the guards or to the wandering warriors? This quest raises inner guard and outer guard but NOT the warriors guild! Unfortunately no way has been found yet to raise the warrior faction without dropping some other faction. =\
    Faction
    # Jul 07 2000 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
    This smith cons apprehensive to me and refuses to give reward for lightstones. What is best way to raise faction for Ogre shaman. Am hesitant to reenter Neriak, have been killed there 4 times already.
    RE: Faction
    # Jan 04 2001 at 5:18 PM Rating: Default
    Bash da Halflin's! Bashin' halflin's in Nek Foresty-place gib gud faction with Dread Guards Outer, an' so dey not bash u annymore. (you'll still be KOS to the necro guild & the inner guard, which means so long as you stay on the ground & away from the 3rd zone of neriak (and the gate to it) you'll have the run of the city. I do! (ogre shm)
    RE: Faction
    # Oct 31 2000 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
    No easy way to fix this faction to get the quest. Easiest thing to do is get a high level enchanter to group with you and have him charm the smith. =)
    way to fix faction
    # Feb 13 2001 at 2:43 PM Rating: Default
    sweet ill try this with with my enchanter who is curently kos do to killing the guards. thx a lot for the info

    Kardolmer Battlerager
    L58 Cleric
    Bertoxx

    Spify Manabattery
    L42 Enchanter
    Bertoxx
    Way to fix faction
    # Jan 08 2001 at 6:13 AM Rating: Excellent
    You'll have to be at the very least dubious for this to work, but if you are, you can fix your faction, you'll need the help of a Non-KOS caster (to neriak) that can invis.

    Have your friend buy a bunch of red wine from the bauble in Neriak C, and run them inside the library to you. in the back of the library (again in Neriak C) there is a guy (I forget his name) with a pet (stands alone in a room with a sliding door, the room has a pillar in it). He is a necromancer as he has a skeleton pet. Anywho, by turning in red wine you'll raise your faction with him (and all the dark bargainers and dread guard inner/dread guard outer) -which are the same factions you'll get for the lightstones.

    While invis, put 4 wines in each of the 4 trade window boxes, DO NOT CLICK TRADE. At this point tell your friend to re-invis you, after you're invis again, click trade, and he'll accept the wine. After turning in about 4 stacks of wine, you should have high enough faction where you don't need to invis anymore... after turning in roughly 30stacks of wine, you should be non-kos to MOST of the dark elf guards (excluding any based on the warrior guild faction).

    As a side note, this does not raise your guild factions, nor does it raise the dead, after doing this Neriak is still not a nice place to visit, but at least you can turn in your lightstones. After you get to the point where you can turn in wine to the guy without invising, you should be able to go to SRo and hand in lightstones (though I figured, since I was already in neriak, I'd finish raising my guard faction, so I'm not absolutely sure).

    One other thing of note is I see alot of people in EC/WC area auctioning "WTB greater lightstones and lightstones", I didn't bother with this. Again, with the help of a high level friend I got a port to NKarana and ran to the centaur merchant in SKarana. As the nearby treants drop tons of lightstones, if the server has been up for any amount of time, he should have at least 100 stones on him, come with alot of plat as the stones costed me 1.3plat each, you can buy fletching kits there to hold them in (which I prefered because I could simply combine the books I got in return rather than selling or destroying them individually).

    Your friend can port you back to SRo, and watch your back as you turn in the lightstones, I've heard that you can get to 15 fairly easily with this quest, at level 12, I'm still getting half a blue bubble per lightstone (haven't tried a greater lightstone), so I'm apt to believe it.

    Anywho, hope that helps.
    -Carpenter, 51 necromancer of Prexus
    Evil Research
    # Jul 03 2000 at 12:12 AM Rating: Decent
    In order to get XP and Faction you must be BETTER faction than Glowers Dubiously
    RE: Evil Research
    # Feb 28 2001 at 2:45 PM Rating: Default
    Ok, so I got the lightstones, I got wolf form, have all my cha gear on (83 pts) and I still can't get this hag to talk to me....any suggestions?
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