There are a few instances where you can get access to plane in 2 different ways. Lets use Crypt of decay for example. You can do the Grummus kill, get the flag, and go to CoD. With this you get a free AA and some charm stats. However, you can also do the Bug Collection in PoD and get access to CoD via a /key. With this you also get a free AA and charm stats.
Now my question is, can you get 2 AAs or is it limited to one free AA per zone.
This can also happen with Tactics: MB vs Daiku medalion. I think you can also do Torment this way: Terris and Bertox vs Torment key quest.
Personally I only have /key access, but want to know what happens with proper flagging.
Input is appreciated.
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You manage to recover some images from your childhood, but no recent events spark a memory. If her replies are the same after multiple "unlock memories" and do not have the childhood quote, that is a clue to some flag(s) you are missing. Find the quote below for help on what to do. Now say "Guided meditation." to determine what flags you have or are missing. Here is a list of the Seer's quotes, along with an interpretation of which flags/steps you are missing. A quote in blue indicates that you have completed this flag and are ready for more. In many cases, after you kill a god you must either hail a Planar Projection to receive credit for the kill or speak with the NPC that triggered the event. Note that some of the quotes will disappear as you progress through the Planes. Table of Contents: Tier 1 Tier 2 Tier 3 Tier 4 Tier 5 The evidence of Mavuin is the only thing that can save him now. Preflagged from Mavuin, or have completed a trial but did not say "what evidence" to a Tribunal. Having endured the trials, the Tribunal has agreed to reconsider Mavuin's case. You have the preflag, completed the trial, and talked to the Tribunal, but have yet to go back and hail Mavuin. Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful. You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms. Adler Fuirstel wishes you to obtain the Ward from the Plane of Disease and take it to his ill brother Milyk. Received Grummus preflag by saying "What ward?" to Adler Fuirstel next to Plane of Disease entrance. Grummus not defeated. You remember seeing a small trinket by Grummus' body and wondering what it was for. Perhaps speaking to someone near the Plane of Disease will shed some light on the situation. Grummus defeated, but you need preflag from Adler Fuirstel. For a moment you pause, sticking your hand into your pocket. Inside you find the small ward that was lying near Grummus' body, perhaps you should bring it to Milyk. Grummus killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not finished by hailing Elder Fuirstel in Plane of Tranquility. Grummus has been destroyed, about his corpse you found a small ward to protect from disease. Preflag done and Grummus killed, but you have not returned to the sick bay in Plane of Tranquility and hailed Elder Fuirstel. Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might. Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom. Thelin being tormented by the imagery of Terris Thule needs assistance escaping from the Plane of Nightmares. Hedge maze preflag. You hailed Elder Poxbourne, then hailed Adroha Jezith and said "tortured by nightmares." Thelin has completed his pact with Terris Thule, but has been refused. The only way to escape his torment now is to destroy Terris Thule. Hedge event done, and you went back to sick bay and hailed Elder Poxbourne and Adroha again. You are flagged to enter the Lair of Terris Thule. Terris Thule not defeated in PoNb/Lair of Terris Thule yet. Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you attemt to recall your battle with her. Terris Thule defeated, but either the PoN hedge event was not completed and or the preflags for it weren't. Terris Thule's grasp over Thelin has been released Terris Thule has been defeated, Hedge event and preflags complete, but you have yet to hail Elder Poxbourne in sick bay to complete cycle. Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt. Terris Thule flag completed. You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'. Xanamech Nezmirthafen killed and Nitram Anizok hailed. You have access to the Plane of Innovation factory (not required for progression). Giwin's invitation to Drunder reminds you of some notes you found around Vallon's body. Received after talking to Giwin inside the factory, having already been flagged for killing the behemoth. Note: had to say "test the machine" to Giwin without prompting since he gives the alternate quest when hailed. Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek. Said to Giwin Mirakon, "I will test the machine." Manaetic Behemoth killed. Zoned into Plane of Tactics. You are flagged for Plane of Tactics/Drunder, Fortress of Zek, but haven't killed either of the Zeks yet. You have defeated Aerin`Dar but have yet to learn the true meaning of Justice. Aerin`Dar killed, but you have not completed a Trial in Plane of Justice. You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls. Aerin`Dar killed. You are flagged for Halls of Honor (not actually required for planar progression, since you can use the 85% rule to get piggybacked into Temple of Marr once in Halls of Honor, then kill Mithaniel Marr there to get your flag). You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms. You have not completed the Plane of Storms key quest for Bastion of Thunder. You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to get to the Bastion of Thunder. You turned in the bone, beard, and sash, but have yet to turn in the medallions, or you have turned in everything but have yet to complete a Trial in the Plane of Justice. You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder. You have successfully completed assisting Askr and have entered the Bastion of Thunder. Bertoxxulous has been slain by Soandso! A nimbus of light floods throughs the crypt in one magnificent wave as an earth shattering howl is heard. The bringer of plagues, lord of all disease and decay, Bertoxxulous has been defeated. Suddenly an urgent whisper fills your head simply saying, 'The Torch of Lxanvom shall burn bright again. Freedom is now ours, for that we thank you.' You say, 'Hail, a planar projection' Milyk Fuirstel's thoughts enter into your own. 'Bertoxxulous is slain, for this my brother and I are forever in your debt. Please, when you have the opportunity come visit me in the Plane of Tranquility. I would like to thank you face to face.' You've received a character flag! You say, 'Hail, Elder Fuirstel' Elder Fuirstel tells you, 'Welcome back friend. I must tell you that my brother and I shall never forget what you have done for us. We have since renounced our following of Bertoxxulous, for in him we only found suffering. We have joined a new following, learning from the gods without their direct influence over us. I shall not keep you though, thank you once again!' You've received a character flag! Milyk has been saved from certain death, but is not recovering. Only by destroying the ruler of all things pestilent will his curse be lifted. Bertoxxulous preflag: you killed Grummus and hailed Adler Fuirstel near Plane of Disease entrance and Elder Fuirstel in sick bay. You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk. - (We need detail on what this means) Bertoxxulous has been slain. The curse from Milyk has been lifted. Bertoxxulous killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not completed by hailing Adler and Elder. As you recall your memory of your battle against the Plaguebringer, an image of the Fuirstel brothers flashes through your mind. Bertoxxulous killed, but you don't have the Grummus flag. Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt. Bertoxxulous flag completed. Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment. See this quest entry for this portion. Saryrn preflag from hailing Fahlia Shadyglade and saying "I will go." (Saying "I will go to the Plane of Torment." puts you in a dialogue loop.) You must have Terris Thule and Bertoxxulous flags complete. Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are. You have killed the Keeper of Sorrows, but do not have the Saryrn preflag. Tylis has been removed from his agony. Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place. You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm. Saryrn killed, but there's a problem with the preflag, postflag, Maareq the Prophet event, Terris Thule chain, or Bertoxxulous chain. You feel the searing pain of torment as half of the Cipher of the Gods glows on your arm. Saryrn chain complete. Mithaniel Marr chain incomplete. Saryrn has been destroyed. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm. Saryrn completed, but you have not yet hailed Grand Librarian Maelin after completing the Mithaniel Marr chain. The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades. Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed. The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend. Defeated Vallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian). Vallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but... well it's probably nothing. Vallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag. Tallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but well it's probably nothing. Tallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag. The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend. Defeated Tallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian). The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed. You are missing part of the Cipher and are not yet flagged for the elemental planes. Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek. You have defeated the Behemoth and have access to Tactics (Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek not killed yet). The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion in Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.' Have Mithaniel Marr/Saryrn/Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek flags (and prerequisites completed). Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Have not yet killed Rallos Zek the Warlord. Flagged to enter Tower of Solusek Ro. Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions. Rallos Zek the Warlord defeated. After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..." You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder. You are flagged to enter the Bastion of Thunder, but have not yet completed Agnarr. You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms. You have killed Agnarr and talked to Karana, but aren't yet flagged to enter Bastion of Thunder. The information obtained from Karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend. Agnarr flag done. You have not hailed librarian after completing Mithaniel Marr path. As you think back to your meeting with Karana the Talisman in your chest warms and a light rain falls from the sky. When you look down, a small book written in a language you can not read, rests in your hands. Agnarr and Karana completed, but you have not said "what lore" to librarian. The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance. Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag. Tier 3 - Halls of Honor (HoHa) and Temple of Marr (HoHb) - Go to Top You have beaten Rydda`Dar in the first of Honor's trials. You completed the Rydda`Dar trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated). You have saved the villagers in the second of Honor's Trials. You completed the Ogre trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated). You have defeated the nomads in the third of Honor's trials. You completed the Madmen trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated). You have completed all of Honor's Trials. 3 trials in Halls of Honor completed. The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend. Mithaniel Marr done, but have not hailed librarian after completing Agnarr path. An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. You have yet to earn a place of Honor. When you have, we will speak again. You were piggybacked into Temple of Marr and killed Mithaniel Marr, but are missing one or more of the trials. An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. He looks up from a small book in his hands and smiles at you. You have not yet earned the Honor to see these words. You have killed both Mithaniel and Agnarr, but have unfinished Halls of Honor flags (usually seen together with the above). You can also see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed. The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance. Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag. Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm. Mithaniel Marr defeated, but have not hailed librarian after completing Saryrn chain. The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades. Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed. To enter the Tower of Solusek Ro, you must have the following at a minimum: (Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, Tallon Zek, Vallon Zek) Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful. You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms. Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might. Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom. Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt. Terris Thule flag completed. Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt. Bertoxxulous flag completed. Tylis has been removed from his agony. Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place. You have completed all of Honor's Trials. 3 trials in Halls of Honor completed. The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades. Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flags completed. The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can. Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek flags completed. Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind. Jiva's strength fills your body. The power of Dresolik surges through you. Xuzl's arcane wisdom pulses in your mind. Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts. The five ToSR minibosses and what you see after you beat each one (these will not appear if you have not hailed Miak in Plane of Tranquility for Doomfire, the Burning Planes/Plane of Fire preflag). Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit. Have killed Solusek Ro but the Tactics chain is not yet complete. Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine. Rallos Zek and Agnarr flags completed. Have access to Planes of Air, Earth (A), and Water. The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal. Preflag to killing Solusek Ro. The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind. Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek defeated (and have all prerequisites). You are flagged to enter the Plane of Fire. The messages for the five mini-bosses disappear once you have this. Your soul has formed a bond with the Plane of Time. You can now pass through the portal in the Plane of Tranquility safely. You are flagged to enter the Plane of Time! After running the first trial and zoning back to Plane of Tranquility, this message displays. The cipher on your arm glows for a moment as the words of history fill your mind. The knowledge you have gained now grants you access to the planes of the Elemental Gods. Access to Planes of Disease, Innovation, Justice, Nightmare, and Tranquility Levels 46 and up. Access to Planes of Storm, Torment, and Valor, and the Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay) Levels 55 and up. Access to Torden, the Bastion of Thunder and the Halls of Honor Levels 62 and up. Alternate access Certain zones are accessible through alternate means, although these do not count toward your planar progression. They do, however, count toward your charm power and AA rewards when talking with Gram Dunnar in the Plane of Knowledge. You are only rewarded once, for completing either the alternate access quest or the regular flagging. The zones with alternate access quests are Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics), Plane of Torment, Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay), and Halls of Honor. Access to The Seventh Hammer in Plane of Justice (not required for progression) To reach The Seventh Hammer, you must complete the six trials and loot the Marks off the final boss of each. Say to The Tribunal, "I seek knowledge," and use The Mark of Justice on a portal to go into The Seventh Hammer's room. Access to Bertoxxulous once inside Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay) Kill Carprin Deatharn, Bishop Toluwon, Vindor Mawnil, Raex Pwodill and High Priest Ultor Szanvon (one spawns after the other). Hail Tarkil Adan after the High Priest's death. You say, 'Hail, Tarkil Adan' Tarkil Adan lets out a groan and then whimpers saying, 'Yes great ones yesss I was king once I wasss.' The creature then mutters under his breath and passes you a small glowing bone fragment etched in runes. Then speaks again saying, 'The tortured ones oh the tortured ones, you must go to the depths of Lxanvom and free them. Go to the bone throne at the ruins entrance there you will find access to the depths.' He then goes back to whimpering and rocking back and forth. You've received a character flag! Access to Saryrn once inside Plane of Torment Kill an Unimaginable Horror in the stomach of Baraguj Szuul and loot the container. In this container, combine the Orbs of Anguish, Agony, Pain and Suffering (dropped off the Avatars of the same names). Access to the Tower of Solusek Ro Must have every flag except Bastion of Thunder key, Agnarr, and Rallos Zek to enter Solusek Ro tower. You do not need Aerin`Dar, but you must have completed the three Halls of Honor trials and must use the 85% rule to get through Mithaniel Marr. Access to Solusek Ro's lair Rallos Zek in Tactics, and flags from The Guardian of Dresolik, Rizlona, Arlyxir, Xuzl and Jiva in Tower of Solusek Ro. Access to Plane of Fire Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek. Access to Planes of Water/Air/Earth (A) - Go to Top Rallos Zek and Agnarr. Access to Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Plane of Earth B) Complete the ring events in Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Plane of Earth A), and kill the Mystical Arbitor of Earth. Access to Avatar of Earth Kill the twelve members of the Rathe council. Access to Plane of Time Obtain the following items, received after hailing the Essence that spawns following the death of the corresponding god. Combine the following items in an Odylic Vial: Sphere of Coalesced Water (Reef of Coirnav) Globe of Dancing Flame (Doomfire, the Burning Lands) Mound of Living Stone (Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve) Amorphous Cloud of Air (Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind) Speak with Chronographer Muon in the Plane of Innovation: You say, 'Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin' Maelin tells you, 'The Quintessence! Oh my this is amazing! I have come into contact with Chronographer Muon in the realm of innovation. Go to him, show him you have the power to activate machine. I shall meet you there, this I must see!' Inside the factory in Plane of Innovation: You say, 'Hail, Chronographer Muon' Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Acquisition of power completed. Would you like to be transported to the time-projection chamber?' You say, 'Yes' Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Compliance.' You now get teleported to a separate part of the zone. You say, 'Hail, Loreseeker Maelin' Loreseeker Maelin fidgets about with excitement, 'So here you are, this is quite impressive. I cannot wait to see the results of this impressive machine! I have coordinated with the clockworks here that have not gone mad. We have set the machine to tear a point of time open that should be equal to that based on the cipher and history that we have [researched].' You say, 'Researched?' Loreseeker Maelin says 'Based on the findings from the information that you brought back to me I have determined the exact time to open. I believe the machine will work. Please step up and activate the machine! Once you have formed a bond with the Plane of Time you will be able to access the Plane again through the Plane of Tranquility. They have built a portal there, but no one was able to become attuned to that plane, until you that is. Good luck!' Click on the big machine next to Maelin. You have received a character flag! The ages begin to tear through your body. 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I have been "keyed" for Tactics for some time now, through the Diaku Medallions quest in Storms. I can't recall if i got AA/charm for that keying - I assume I did.
I just got the Manatec Behemoth kill/flag from PoI lastnight, infact. I went and talked to the Dorf in Knowledge, just to see what happenned.
No AA, no charm upgrade. You only get it once, as you'd expect.
I just got the Manatec Behemoth kill/flag from PoI lastnight, infact. I went and talked to the Dorf in Knowledge, just to see what happenned.
No AA, no charm upgrade. You only get it once, as you'd expect.
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The Daiku medalds are for xp only. They are not associated with PP. Although it will get you in to PoTactics. You need to do the Collection quest in PoStorms for your planar progression flag =). Good Luck!
However, you do get charm stats for entering Drunder via the Diaku medals, even though it isn't good for planar progression. If you get flagged for Drunder for planar progression after getting keyed for Drunder, however, you don't receive any additional stats on your charm.
dumb question - do you need Rallos Zek the Warlord for all elemental plains? I see it in the checklist above but I am told I am wrong by some people who have been to all but Fire.
Can anyone tell me they've been to water/earth without rztw?
Can anyone tell me they've been to water/earth without rztw?
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I can say that I had everything i needed to get into Sol Ro, including having killed agnarr, but could not zone into ANY of the elemental planes until I killed Rallos Zek. Once Rallos was dead I had acces to earth wind and water, but still need to kill sol ro to get access to fire.
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[Teal][/Teal]when u turn 46 do u get a button in ur inventory telling you what u have flagged?
Scholar
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no , if you need to know what flags you have you will need to visit the seer in PoK and say guided meditation. This will give messages based on the flags you have.The messages are not very direct but there are websites that some people here have linked to that will tell you exactly what her statements mean. also If you have gotten flags out of sequence (IE talked to poxbane in pot after completing the hedge event rather than before) you can come to her and say Unlock memories and it will set things straight for you.
Edited, Tue Apr 6 13:19:31 2004
Edited, Tue Apr 6 13:19:31 2004
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Ok, managed to find this in another thread about flagging. This helps decipher most of the Seer's messages and tells you what you need to do and when to get flagged. This comes from The Safehouse. Hope this helps.
http://pub146.ezboard.com/fthesafehousethebackroomsecretsspoilers.showMessage?topicID=13530.topic
http://pub146.ezboard.com/fthesafehousethebackroomsecretsspoilers.showMessage?topicID=13530.topic
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I have done the hedge event but did not get the preflag before and now that I am trying to get it it will not work do you need the flag before you do the hedge event? I have already killed TT but i want to get the sayrn flag and it will not work because it says i haven't completed the TT pre-flags
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actually the data given is correct. you kill Mystical Arbitor in plane of earth A to get flagged for B. once you kill all the rathe councilmen in plane of earth B the Avatar of Earth spawns. kill him, hail his projection, and you get the Mound of Living earth. wish this guy knew a little about what he was posting.
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Posted: Mar 15 2004 at 10:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) when should i start planner progress i am a level 56 war
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there is alot of info here but nothin stateing what to do exactly - like what or who do you have to talk to in pok and so on - if anyone can help PLEASE
The only thing i don't understand is if you are lvl 65 can you do all the kills availlable w/o tier one flags and still have them registered, or need the previous flags first?
You must kill each and every flag target weather you have lvl access to the zone or not
Scholar
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You will need to complete the tier 1 flags if you plan on progressing to the non freebie zones like Sol ro's tower or elemental planes, however you dont have to do them in order, I.E. you can do the quest for Bastion of Thunder access before completing the Trials in PoJ.
Edited, Wed Mar 10 23:50:42 2004
Edited, Wed Mar 10 23:50:42 2004
Is AD required as well as PoJ trial and Three Trials in HOH to get access to this zone?
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No it is not required to progress. Piggyback into HoHB is sufficient.
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Although AD is required for access to HoH, it is not required for Elemental. If you get gimped into HoH and grab all the flags in there, AD is worthless.
Scholar
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Actually, you do still need AD in order to get into the Temple of Marr; You need both AD and all three HoH trials to be able to get in without having to piggy.
If you're guild is capable of piggying one or the other for you then no, AD isn't necessary.
If you're guild is capable of piggying one or the other for you then no, AD isn't necessary.
AD is required for HoHb. I've completed all the other requirements to get in except for killing AD and it still wont let me in. It's needed for sure.
Yes, Aerin 'Dar is needed.
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It's just this kind of rubbish that kills EQ for some people. I gave up EQ for 7 months due to the PoP flag rubbish.
For 5 nights in a row my guild took on Bertoxxulous and lost every time. On the 6th night I attended a work related event and it just so happened that was the night my guild defeated Bertox. Two days later my guild attempted Saryn - I just happened to be working a late shift that day and missed it(I have to work unsociable hours in my line of work).
Up until this point I had kept all flags up to date, and for the previous month and a half had spent most of my time backflagging members. So after keeping myself flagged and helping others I found myself now 2 flags behind everyone else in my guild due to RL commitments. So I cancelled my account in disgust.
I recently re-opened the account thanks to LDoN. No loot arguments - you buy what you put in. No huge time committment - you choose when you want to do those adventures.
To those who've done their flags, congratulations! You've done well to persevere! But as one who was once a regular raider who attended all raids as would allow (which was most) I felt the PoP system screwed me.
The only benefit I now have from enabling the PoP expansion on my account is to have easy access to other zones via Plane of Knowledge. The other planes can go hang.
For 5 nights in a row my guild took on Bertoxxulous and lost every time. On the 6th night I attended a work related event and it just so happened that was the night my guild defeated Bertox. Two days later my guild attempted Saryn - I just happened to be working a late shift that day and missed it(I have to work unsociable hours in my line of work).
Up until this point I had kept all flags up to date, and for the previous month and a half had spent most of my time backflagging members. So after keeping myself flagged and helping others I found myself now 2 flags behind everyone else in my guild due to RL commitments. So I cancelled my account in disgust.
I recently re-opened the account thanks to LDoN. No loot arguments - you buy what you put in. No huge time committment - you choose when you want to do those adventures.
To those who've done their flags, congratulations! You've done well to persevere! But as one who was once a regular raider who attended all raids as would allow (which was most) I felt the PoP system screwed me.
The only benefit I now have from enabling the PoP expansion on my account is to have easy access to other zones via Plane of Knowledge. The other planes can go hang.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 12 2004 at 3:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bah, you screwed yourself. You bought the Planes CD. Play or dont play, there's a million more of your class to group with, who needs you and your meaningless bickering.
There is one thing you forgot above all else when you cancelled your account in "disgust".
It's just a game.
It's just a game.
My room-mate managed to do all flags up to Sol Ro tower in two or three weeks. None of theese where guild-raids, just well organized pick-up raids...
So don't hang your head, there is a way if you want it..
So don't hang your head, there is a way if you want it..
#Annalaesta,
Posted: Feb 01 2004 at 4:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ya guilds never do a flag mob more then once so ya you were screwed.. theyd NEVER even bother to try to kill bert or saryrn again.
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To enter Temple of Sol Ro, you must have the following at a minimum: (Grummus, TT, Bertoxx, KoS, Saryrn, HoH trials, MM, Tallon, Vallon)
- Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
PoV/PoS
- Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
Grummus
- Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
Terris Thule
- Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
Bertox
- Tylis has been removed from his agony.
Keeper of Sorrows
- You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
HoHonor Trials
- The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.
Saryrn & Mithaniel Marr
- The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.
Tallon & Vallon Zek
- Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
PoV/PoS
- Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
Grummus
- Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
Terris Thule
- Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
Bertox
- Tylis has been removed from his agony.
Keeper of Sorrows
- You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
HoHonor Trials
- The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.
Saryrn & Mithaniel Marr
- The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.
Tallon & Vallon Zek
Scholar
19 posts
You forgot you needa do the MB in PoI to get access to tactics to kill VZ/TZ
From what I have been able to tell so far, you do not need AD in PoV for anything. My pally is flagged fully minus killing Sol Ro and killing AD. He can get into all zones besides fire (because he is missing Sol Ro kill)
I do not know if I will end up needing AD for fire or not. Will update after I get the Sol Ro kill flag.
I do not know if I will end up needing AD for fire or not. Will update after I get the Sol Ro kill flag.
32 posts
Aye, fully elemental flagged and i not killed AD.
btw, you still need it if you want to go in hohb without the will of a raid forces.
btw, you still need it if you want to go in hohb without the will of a raid forces.
32 posts
look this site for a real good walk throug the flags and corresponding information from the seer.
http://pub146.ezboard.com/fthesafehousethebackroomsecretsspoilers.showMessage?topicID=13530.topic
Good luck
Btw i just miss AD and MM now and maelin don't give me the elemental flag yet. Then u must kill MM to access water, earth and air.
Edit:
Update of 30/01/04, fix the walkthroug. It is now correct. You absolute need MM, but not need AD for EP/Time flagged. I have all but AD and i can zone in all planes but hohb. (done trials but not AD)
Edited, Fri Jan 30 14:21:03 2004
http://pub146.ezboard.com/fthesafehousethebackroomsecretsspoilers.showMessage?topicID=13530.topic
Good luck
Btw i just miss AD and MM now and maelin don't give me the elemental flag yet. Then u must kill MM to access water, earth and air.
Edit:
Update of 30/01/04, fix the walkthroug. It is now correct. You absolute need MM, but not need AD for EP/Time flagged. I have all but AD and i can zone in all planes but hohb. (done trials but not AD)
Edited, Fri Jan 30 14:21:03 2004
Scholar
19 posts
Here is a Check list for all Elemental Plains.
NOTE: NOT IN ORDER. Just a check list.
[ ] PoJ Trail (Only 1)
[ ] Manaetic Behemoth
[ ] Hedge Maze
[ ] Bertoxxulous
[ ] Carprin Deatharn -> High Priest Ultor Szanvon Cycle
[ ] Aerin`Dar
[ ] Agnarr the Storm Lord
[ ] Vallon Zek
[ ] Tallon Zek
[ ] Rallos Zek The Warlord
[ ] HoH trail -Villagers
[ ] HoH trail -Crazed Norrathian
[ ] HoH trail -Rydda`Dar
[ ] Askr the Lost Quest (PoS)
[ ] Terris Thule
[ ] Saryrn
[ ] Keeper of the Sorrows
[ ] Mithaniel Marr
[ ] Solusek Ro
[ ] Rizlona (SolRo mini)
[ ] Xuzl (SolRo mini)
[ ] Arlyxir (SolRo mini)
[ ] Dresolik (SolRo mini)
[ ] Jiva (SolRo mini)
[ ] Grummus
NOTE: NOT IN ORDER. Just a check list.
[ ] PoJ Trail (Only 1)
[ ] Manaetic Behemoth
[ ] Hedge Maze
[ ] Bertoxxulous
[ ] Carprin Deatharn -> High Priest Ultor Szanvon Cycle
[ ] Aerin`Dar
[ ] Agnarr the Storm Lord
[ ] Vallon Zek
[ ] Tallon Zek
[ ] Rallos Zek The Warlord
[ ] HoH trail -Villagers
[ ] HoH trail -Crazed Norrathian
[ ] HoH trail -Rydda`Dar
[ ] Askr the Lost Quest (PoS)
[ ] Terris Thule
[ ] Saryrn
[ ] Keeper of the Sorrows
[ ] Mithaniel Marr
[ ] Solusek Ro
[ ] Rizlona (SolRo mini)
[ ] Xuzl (SolRo mini)
[ ] Arlyxir (SolRo mini)
[ ] Dresolik (SolRo mini)
[ ] Jiva (SolRo mini)
[ ] Grummus
32 posts
I am Time flagged and no EP flagged.
I have killed Behemoth, Rallos Zek and Agnarr, and i have the BoT flag and PoJ. According to these thing i should access to earth, water and air but Grand librarian is stick to my quitessence of element. Then he don't give me my flag for EP.
If you know what should i do talk now.
I have killed Behemoth, Rallos Zek and Agnarr, and i have the BoT flag and PoJ. According to these thing i should access to earth, water and air but Grand librarian is stick to my quitessence of element. Then he don't give me my flag for EP.
If you know what should i do talk now.
32 posts
This walkthrough is false. I have all but TT, AD and MM and still not access to elemental planes.
Hi Minhoux!
Sounds like maybe you missed some of the hailing stuff.
Go to this website http://www.ironvine.com/ci/flags.asp and print out the handy checklist. Then go hail the seer and do the unlock my memories/guided meditation thing. The checklist along with the Safehouse post should get it fixed up for you.
Sounds like maybe you missed some of the hailing stuff.
Go to this website http://www.ironvine.com/ci/flags.asp and print out the handy checklist. Then go hail the seer and do the unlock my memories/guided meditation thing. The checklist along with the Safehouse post should get it fixed up for you.
do u really need to do all the flagging to get to lets say the element planes....example...do u have to do the trials in PoJ if u are 65?
10 posts
You need all the flags prior to be EP Flaged. You don't need Sol Ro tower, minis and Sol Ro himself for PoE/PoW/PoA. But for fire you acess you do need the tower and him.
short answer, yes you need to do them all.
(technically you can skip the 5 sol ro mini's, and possibly AD, heard conflicting info on him)
(technically you can skip the 5 sol ro mini's, and possibly AD, heard conflicting info on him)
I am a bit confused about the Torment flag. On some sites it states that you need to kill both TT and Rertox to get flagged for Torment, however on some sites it says TT is all you need to enter Torment. So which is true? Or is it just that TT gives you access to the zone but Killing both her and Bertox gives you the actual planar progression "flag" for the zone?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
30 posts
You need terris thule to be flagged for torment (level 55 can enter). You need Berto flag for tylis to port you into the nightmare so you can fight keeper of sorrows
Yes, but only ONE person on the raid needs to have Bertoxx. The person who actually does the Hail of Tylis.
Make sure your raiders are huddled under Tylis' cage (and all ressed) first, it's basically an AE TL that he uses to port the raid into his nightmare / the Keeper of Sorrows area.
Make sure your raiders are huddled under Tylis' cage (and all ressed) first, it's basically an AE TL that he uses to port the raid into his nightmare / the Keeper of Sorrows area.
3 posts
told to seer and she says : "when u try to recall the defeat of saryrn u feel a searing pain on your arm"
I killed Saryrn and Bertox (Saryrn first).
Tried "unlock memories" many times as well :)
Anyone have any ideas what i did wrong?
Do I have to kill Saryrn again ?
Thx if u can help !
I killed Saryrn and Bertox (Saryrn first).
Tried "unlock memories" many times as well :)
Anyone have any ideas what i did wrong?
Do I have to kill Saryrn again ?
Thx if u can help !
4 posts
Ive gotten the same message when trying when "unlocking memories"...only thing i havent done is KoS.Got in a raid and jumped straight to Saryrn.Trying to get in a PU for that,maybe itll fix the problem. Ill post if it does.
Lamil
65 wiz E.Marr
Lamil
65 wiz E.Marr
4 posts
yup....got KoS and the prophet and it fixed itself(after running around and hailing everything that moved).Formed a tatoo on my arm and the searing pain went away and i got the nahalia shadysomethingorother flag from PoT.
Lamil
65 wiz E.Marr
Lamil
65 wiz E.Marr
32 posts
To progress that chain farther you have to complete and properly pre- and post-flag Saryrn, Bert and TT. Thus, you need all of the following kills and flags:
Grummus
Terris (and Hedge)
Bert
Keeper of Sorrows
Based on what you said, it's most likely that you don't have Terris. If you DO have Terris, check your Saryrn pre-flag. Hail Fahlia and tell her "I will go".
You should then have:
Saryrn has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
You'll have that statement until you kill and flag MM.
Grummus
Terris (and Hedge)
Bert
Keeper of Sorrows
Based on what you said, it's most likely that you don't have Terris. If you DO have Terris, check your Saryrn pre-flag. Hail Fahlia and tell her "I will go".
You should then have:
Saryrn has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
You'll have that statement until you kill and flag MM.
3 posts
PoTime B?
Edited, Fri Dec 5 09:50:52 2003
Edited, Fri Dec 5 09:50:52 2003
potimeb is where stuff happens (the ring events and the killing)...potimea is just a 'museum'...there is no actual flagging for potimeb (atleast this is my understanding of it)
#REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 03 2003 at 7:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Good ole Behemoth, can't say how many times the guild has had fun with em.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Nov 30 2003 at 10:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok, i play on luclin server, in the guild neverending twilight, i am an officer and my job is to get the entire guild up to elemental plane access, does anyone have a detailed forum like for the epics that i can read that will tell me all i need to know?
Check these out, they may give you the answers you seek...
http://www.graffe.com/library.php?id=19
http://www.graffe.com/quests.php?id=7
http://www.graffe.com/library.php?id=19
http://www.graffe.com/quests.php?id=7
8 posts
Great post man I hope you don't mind I disseminated this info on my guilds website www.eternalshadows.net
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willowbleed weeptree
62 feral lord
proud member of rz
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willowbleed weeptree
62 feral lord
proud member of rz
What's the fastest one could get up to the elemental planes, and then how long from there to Time completing all phases of progression? I know I prolly won't be able to get Time flagged before EQ II comes out, but I would at LEAST like to see the elemental planes. Our guild is not that large, but most peeps in it are 65's. What type of raid force is need to get fully elemental flagged? Sorry bout all the noob type ?'s but I'm bored. =P
Depending upon your server, you may be able to get fully elemental flagged without a guild, just going on open raids.
If you're doing it with your guild, the hardest point will be killing Rallos Zek the Warlord in Drunder, Fortress of Zek. You have to be well geared and know exactly what you are doing to do that encounter with less than 60-70 people.
With good communication and tactics, and a little bit of luck, every other raid you'll need to do can be done with 40ish.
If you're doing it with your guild, the hardest point will be killing Rallos Zek the Warlord in Drunder, Fortress of Zek. You have to be well geared and know exactly what you are doing to do that encounter with less than 60-70 people.
With good communication and tactics, and a little bit of luck, every other raid you'll need to do can be done with 40ish.
25 posts
Can you earn access to PoEarth, Water, Air, before earning the flag for PoFire? Seems that the flag for E, W, and A is much easier to do and I was wondering if you can just do Agnarr and RZ to get your first elemental flags and then go back and do all the other raids for PoFire while enjoying the benefit of tier 4 priviledges. Please help me
well, you will more than likely gain access to E, W and A before Fire anyways, however, no you cannot gain access to the zones by just killing Agnarr and RZ. Meaning this: to get the RZ flag, you will still have to kill TZ/VZ and behemoth at least. To get the Agnarr one completed, you at least need to go through the PoJ trial and get the BoT key from PoS. Now, the Librarian won't give you the correct dialect that he has unless you have done a few of the other flags too, however i can't remember which ones. Well, let's just say that you have to do most of the flag mobs here to get to the elementals.
2 posts
talk to the seer in POK, and she will tell you all the flags that you have, you have to be "sitting" next to her, hail, and say " unlock memories " then say "guilded meditation"
then youll have a list of flags you have and things that you have missed.
she is located in the building right infront of the PoT stone in POK.
also make sure you visit the dworf to the left of this buiding as you leave, he might have some free AA points for you as your charm stats increase with every flag, hail him and say " tell stories " doing this a couple times will update everything. ( same guy that gives you the wooden charm )
then youll have a list of flags you have and things that you have missed.
she is located in the building right infront of the PoT stone in POK.
also make sure you visit the dworf to the left of this buiding as you leave, he might have some free AA points for you as your charm stats increase with every flag, hail him and say " tell stories " doing this a couple times will update everything. ( same guy that gives you the wooden charm )
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