Marsinger No. 4  

Quest Started By:Description:
Maximum Level:120
Monster Mission:No
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
Related Creatures:
Related Quests:
Era:Legacy of Ykesha
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Thu May 29 20:15:33 2003
Modified: Sun Jul 21 00:06:24 2019
Priests and Melee use Seana Marsinger.
Casters and Hybrids use Stefan Marsinger - Get Marsinger's Glimmering Gem.

Once you have completed the first three steps, you turn in your third gem and the three books mentioned during the third quest that you didn't need to collect for the reward. Thus, you must do the following turn-ins.

Teachings of Innoruuk, Book of the Dead, Applications of Suffering, Gem of Conquest

Texts on Pain, Writ of Agony, Tactical Hatred, Gem of Heroism

Texts on Pain, Writ of Agony, Tactical Hatred, Gem of Victory

Teachings of Innoruuk, Book of the Dead, Applications of Suffering, Gem of Transcendence
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My experience
# Jul 09 2020 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Ive spent 3 days here killing all south east quadrant named, ~ 15 named, as they pop

total of about 18 hours

have yet to see a single tactical hatred drop but seen almost 2-3 of everything else.

On average 2 named per repop, which is terrible out of 18 mobs, and usually 2-4 quest pieces a cycle.

I had the whole thing done 1-4 in about 3 hours minus this damned tactical hatred....
Done at level 19
# Feb 09 2020 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
155 posts
Just finished this on my level 19 rogue with help from my level 83 rogue. I was bored and wanted to see if it was still possible. The named for the books in Plane of Hate seemed to be spawning more compared to when I tried months back. Had all 3 in less than 30 minutes (roughly).
MQ confirmed
# Jun 20 2013 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
143 posts
Just finished this MQ on my Level 1 Bard.
Before you attempt this keep in mind you will be spending days in Hate farming the appropriate drops for your specific class.
Also Note ( very important ) you can ONLY MQ for the SAME CLASS TYPE PERIOD. A Priest CANNOT MQ for a CASTER only for another priest type.
how I did it. Took my high level cleric into hate and pulled all the rooms till named's popped. Had my level 52 Beastlord loot all the necessary parts to the quest.
Took me a total of over 15 hours over a three day span to get everything. The rarest piece was the Writ of Agony. Took my Beastlord and lvl 1 Bard to greater Faydark for the turn in. MAKE SURE THE TWO ARE GROUPED or you will have your level 1 ding too level 2 with the experience hits. The beastlord
handed in the first 2 no drop items first .. then the bard handed in the last piece which was the tradeable jacinth. The Bard got the first Gem for the quest. The rest of the steps were done the same way for each part of the quest .. Beastlord handed in first , Bard hands in last gem for upgrade. DONE Confirmed WORKS.
Good Luck.

Why you ask ?
Would Love to have a Trophy Level 1
Never plan on leveling him just wanted to see how much HP / Mana I could achieve out of a lvl 1 .
Am currently trying other quests with no level restrictions on items.
If you have any other good quests similar to this for twinking a lvl1 post a reply for me thx.
level completion
# Jun 23 2010 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
i just finished this quest on my baby mage - she was able to do all turn-in's at level 40.
Rangers, Necros and Druids OH MY!

level completion
# Sep 18 2010 at 7:41 PM Rating: Decent
135 posts
you forgot to mention this was done on FV, to avoid any dumb posts...
If only...
# Aug 07 2005 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
43 posts
If only the reward was upgraded to be an aug instead, then I would consider this quest.

Only reason for newer players to do some of the older quests is for accomplishment. The rewards are easilly replaced by some nice stuff from newer content, that takes less time.

How hard would it be to make a handin npc for some of the old quest items in exchange for a comparable aug?
If only...
# Jan 02 2010 at 4:53 AM Rating: Default
89 posts
If they did that it would be one of those Type 11 AUg's
A true warrior is always armed with three things: the radiant sword of pacification; the mirror of bravery, wisdom, and friendship; and the precious jewel of enlightenment.
Aikido is the principle of non-resistance. Because it is non-resistant, it is victorious from the beginning. Those with evil intentions or contentious thoughts are instantly vanquished. Aikido is invincible because it contends with nothing.
All items needed
# Jul 29 2004 at 9:29 AM Rating: Good
101 posts
Ok - here is a link to all the pieces needed for all but pure melee, i posted it at a different spot.

Edited, Thu Jul 29 12:22:38 2004
Archanist V`Gimis
# Jul 24 2004 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
drops book of hate
resplendant gloves of purity
Never Been To Hate.
# May 08 2004 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
HOw would a lv 60 BL and some Guild friends do in Hate? And is there any way to get there BESIDES teleporting with WIZ?
RE: Never Been To Hate.
# Jun 16 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
This was changed in todays patch. You can now access the Plane of Hate by talking to Relm M'Loch in the Plane of Tranquility and handing her a Fuligan Soulstone.

It is a bit expensive and you need a way out. No portal out. A druid could get you out though if getting a wizard is your problem. Or the OT hammer for each person in group without gate.
RE: Never Been To Hate.
# May 20 2004 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
Need to teleport in...tis the only way
# Mar 31 2004 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default

1: Dreadlord M`Noxin
Drop: Writ of Agony, Diabolic Steel Bracer
2: Spy Master I`Kavin
Drop: Dissertation of Dark War, Applications of Suffering, Primeval Leggings of Madness
3: Spy Master I`Kavin
Drop: Applications of Suffering, Primeval Leggings of Madness
4: Spy Master I`Kavin
Drop: Book of the Dead, Primeval Leggings of Madness

Edited, Wed Mar 31 06:06:20 2004
# Mar 03 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Excellent
Just to clarify some things...

YES...all steps of this quest can be MQ'd

BUT...classes can only MQ to the specific Marsinger...i.e. Hybrids can MQ for casters and vice versa, since Stefan gives the rewards for those classes. It goes the same with melee/priests from Seana.

YES...this has been verified.

Good day.
4th Gem?
# Jan 25 2004 at 11:01 AM Rating: Excellent
Ok, is the 4th Gem the same for all classes? If so, seems ludicrous to have to give up a Vengeance III item with decent stats to get spell haste for a rogue... Whoopee, spell haste...
RE: 4th Gem?
# Apr 27 2004 at 9:10 AM Rating: Default
The gem is end-all for ALL classes. Does that mean ALL classes should turn in for the fourth? Uh, you DON'T have to turn it in. Nothing is forcing you to.


RE: 4th Gem?
# May 10 2005 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
Its not noobish to complain that the end item in the series is more useful to casters than melees cause of the loss of vengeance for spell haste. Most quest series, the end item is the one with the best stats, but spell haste is worthless to a pure melee. There shouldve been a version for casters and antoehr for melees with different effects.
Want to Confirm
# Dec 24 2003 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
at 4th gem, it is all the same stats for every class? or it is different for priest and melee? can someone confirm this many thanks
# Sep 05 2003 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
I can't see the reason to give up a FT3 range on wizard for 25 more mana. That is basically all the upgrade gives us because int is not a problem to most wizards and can be built up using many other slots little by little. But hey, I wouldn't give up my brain of cazic thule for anything unless it was very good. :p Just feels so right wearing my carmine robe, eye of cazic thule, brain of cazic thule, and weilding my epic after all the pain I went through in that Plane trying to get all the wizard bits and pieces we need out of there...

Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
RE: gah
# Dec 09 2003 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
Well it might be worth it for Shamans, cant see any other caster that would give up the FT3=)
RE: gah
# Jun 04 2004 at 1:02 AM Rating: Excellent
100 posts
As a necro, I prefer the final gem by far over FT III even though I am not maxed in FT yet.
Brakiss Dooku (retired)
Archon of Vazaelle
Adalric Brandl <Walkers>
Deathspeaker of Innoruuk

RE: gah
# Dec 29 2003 at 4:12 AM Rating: Default
...or, as in my case, you already have FT 15 from other sources, but want to upgrade your feet from Ornate Silk (which have mediocre stats, and that is being kind). No, I am not in an "uber" guild, but I still have nice stuff...:-)
Marsinger Quest Books
# Aug 31 2003 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
I have spent an extensive amount of time in Hate since the re-vamp and this is what I've learned.

Every single named mob in the zone can drop the Marsinger 3 & 4 books/scrolls.
We've killed approximately 100 (downtown)Old-Hate Minis and have seen 3 books/scrolls.
Downtown is where you find Forsaken Revenants, Scorn Banshees etc...
We've killed approximately 12 (midtown)New-Hate minis and have seen 2 or 3 books/scrolls.
Midtown is where you find Forlorn Revenants, Malevolent Banshees etc...
We've killed approximately 20 (uptown) New-Hate minis and have seen 9 or 10 books/scrolls.
Uptown is nothing but "(class) of Hate" Mobs.

The Uptown Hate Named Mobs will drop a book at Random. You can kill an uptown Hate named 6 times and not see a single book then the next time you kill him 7 times in a row he/she will drop one. and which Book they drop is also entirely random. Unlike the Crests, the books/scrolls will drop from Named mobs regardless of the Mobs class.
Shaman = priest
# Aug 31 2003 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
You might wanna recheck the items Selvius. All PRIEST classes ie cleric druid shaman can use it.

Edited, Sun Aug 31 15:09:58 2003
Drop and Spawn statistics
# Aug 26 2003 at 12:02 PM Rating: Good
I have successfully completed the 4th gem for my bard and wizard, and my wife has the 4th for her cleric at the time of writing. We also have gem 3 for our shaman and shadow knight, with a monk friend just needing his melee 3 book to complete his 3rd and 4th gems. This quest really is truley awesome, but requires that you work at it for week after week or you wont get the reward. For the time invested, the group gets the rewards for everyone if they stick together. We work on this quest for 3-4 hrs every day of the week on average, in Plane of Hate, and we have accumulated the following stats based on the time invested below:

(I pull all 6 tier 4 ph's for about 3-4 hrs per evening on a weekday, and then maybe 6-8 hrs on a sunday, 4 hrs on a saturday. We've been doing this as a group of 6 people for nearly 2 months now).

- 2 named on average each session.
- 1 book on average per night.
- a piece of loot of each named that is not a quest book.
- pure melee 3rd books (dissertation of dark war) are by far the rarest to the extent that we havent had one yet
- caster/priest books are the most common for 3rd and 4th
- hybrid are semi-common after the casters
- pure melee crests are the rarest
- caster crests are so common they rot (balance!)
- priest crests are the next rarest
- hybrid crests are in the middle somewhere


Silentsong, Jerone and Destyni + 2-boxed alts
Innoruuk Server
RE: Drop and Spawn statistics
# Apr 17 2004 at 9:56 AM Rating: Default
Drops seem completely random. I did (lowbie) hate from 9pm until 3am and the drops were as follows:

4 melee crests.
5 priest crests.
1 caster crest.

Needless to say, this seems completely random, as the previous post is almost the exact opposite on frequency. As my luck would have it, we were looking for 2 casters. We did kill an even number of all mobs (ashenbone, spite golems, chests, clerics, rats, the chanter mobs that can drop sorcerer emblem (forgot name) )

Aadiane Leafblower 65 Druid 116aa Bertoxx
Jumperton Flippyfeets 65 Warrior 3aa Bertoxx
Clarified Mind 65 Enchanter 52aa Bertoxx
Sethar Lordison 61 necro 1aa Bertoxx
# Aug 18 2003 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
Any Idea of the Spwan time of the Mini-Boses now ?
books and such
# Aug 18 2003 at 3:00 AM Rating: Default
657 posts
Seems the like-class tier 4 mobs (lvl 65 named) drop the books for the 4th ... but not always.

We had the Warlord (lvl 62 named) drop dissertations AND agony of writ

Arcanist (named 65) dropped ... book of the dead
Arch Lich (named 65) dropped ... applications of suffering
Dread Lord (named 65) .. dropped nothing .. so I assume this means the book(s) don't always drop


Dread Lord dropped brilliant shield of integrity
Arch Lich dropped a tradeable MNK / BST 1hb w/ vengeance I
Arcanist (lvl 65 named) dropped a tradeable gloves of radiance or some such
no link found on allakhazam .. not even the Arcanist

Silfh V'Ester
Lord Protector
Court of the Crosswinds
Rallos Zek

Edited, Mon Aug 18 03:50:38 2003
Silfh V'Ester - Holy Defender of Koada'Vie
Mahlah Tohsis - Spiritwalker
Writ of Agony
# Jun 12 2003 at 2:58 AM Rating: Decent
I really don't see where the Writ of Agony fits into all this. It is not one of the 4 books and as such never appears to have to be handed in. Out of curiousity, why do people think it is connected to the 4th gem?
RE: Writ of Agony
# Jul 23 2003 at 7:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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6,998 posts
Writ of Agony is used by hybrid and melee classes for their fourth gem. I've updated the quest description to be more explicit about which items are required for which classes.
RE: Writ of Agony
# Jul 23 2003 at 7:10 PM Rating: Default
I haven't done this quest yet but i am going to start it soon and as soon as i finish i will post again and clerify if i can. but i think the 3 books depend on which class u are the 2 quest NPC's ask for different books so u use the 3 books that were told u in the 3rd step whichever 3 books those may be. makes sense that way anyway.
clarify wich books please
# Jun 02 2003 at 3:41 AM Rating: Decent
Please clarify wich 3 books are needed for the 4th turn in.

Is it:

Texts on Pain, Writ of Agony, & Tactical Hatred

Or is it the 3 books used by other classes in their 3rd quests?
RE: clarify wich books please
# Jun 12 2003 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
The 4 books are:

Compendium of Classic Torture
Concordance of Black Magic
Dissertation of Dark War
Tome of Dark Healing

You hand in the three books not associated with your class in step 3.
RE: clarify wich books please
# Jun 29 2003 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
Seems kind of ****** that they would make you compete for other classes books. This makes no sence and if it is true then Sony must be sadistic, and sitting back and waiting for arguements over looting rights on these books.
bow vs. gem
# May 30 2003 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
Very nice item, however seems kinda fruitless to give a high level ranger a range slot item that isn't a bow...
Then do this
# May 30 2003 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
Do up to nummber 3 once, then do up to number 2 again, turn in 3 for 4 and then get another number 3. that way you can swap out according to the situation.

As a beastlord i'd use the regen one for soloing, and the vengenace for group and raid situations it's that simple folks think about it.
Story mod for all quests
# May 30 2003 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
98 posts
I've created a Story Windows mod for this quest series. Download it at:

unzip the file into your "storylines" folder inside your EQ folder, and then when you do ALT+N in the game, you will see it listed as "Plane of Hate - v.2".

Happy hunting!

# May 30 2003 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
that any priest would turn in a FT3 item for a 3 Regen item, even if you consider the focus and better stats. Most priest that have hit FT limit have access to better range items anyway.
RE: doubtful
# May 30 2003 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
Same goes for melee and vengeance :/
Nerple Reveler
Vile Tunarean Forest Stalker
<Celestial Navigators>, Drinal by way of Maelin Starpyre and Vazaelle
RE: doubtful
# May 30 2003 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
A shaman might... HP = Mana for them.
RE: doubtful
# Aug 22 2003 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default

Edited, Tue Sep 30 17:37:17 2003
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