Alternate Access: Halls of Honor  

Quest Started By:Description:
Maximum Level:120
Monster Mission:No
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
Related Creatures:
Era:Planes of Power
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
Entered: Mon Nov 11 20:04:10 2002
Modified: Thu Feb 3 02:23:56 2022
You say, 'Hail, Grenic Drere'

Grenic Drere says 'Mortals, this far into the planes? Something that I never thought that I would see. Regardless that does not help my [situation] any does it?'

You say, 'What situation?'

Grenic Drere says 'Not that it is your business, but this is where I call home. I have lost track of the years that I have spent here. This valley is my home, for I was exiled from [Mithaniel's Temple]. It is not a story that I am proud of and do not wish to share with you. So be one with you.'

You say, 'Where is Mithaniel's Temple?'

Grenic Drere says 'Only a mortal would be as thick headed to know not when to take their leave. He and his legions call his temple The Halls of Honor. Paladins that have served him well on Norrath have the opportunity to ascend into his ranks. They are in training to make sure that they are always prepared to defend what they believe is the right and honorable thing to do. Mithaniel is an extremely proud being, and will accept any challenge that you may have to offer him. If you are willing to challenge him, I may have some [information] you will find useful.'

You say, 'What information?'

Grenic Drere says 'There are other methods to enter the Halls of Honor than those that are readily apparent, and as a former soldier of Marr I can offer you access into the Halls; however as with all such arrangements there must be something [paid] for something earned.'

You say, 'Paid?'

Grenic Drere says 'I was not the only member of my squad that was sent into exile, my brothers in arms, were the impetus for our exile. I was but a mere pawn. They now reside in the Plane of Justice as bodiless shades. Their punishment was too lax for their actions; I want their eternal souls to be mine. Find a smith who will teach you to create a box of souls, weaken the shades, then capture their souls and return all three to me.'

Journey to the Plane of Knowledge and speak with Borik Darkanvil:

You say, 'Hail, Borik Darkanvil'

Borik Darkanvil says 'Greetings, Borik Darkanvil, at your service. I was once a planar traveler like you. Those days are behind me, now I am content to earn my keep as a blacksmith, and to experiment with some of the [special recipes] that I have picked up in these outer planes.'

You say, 'What special recipes?'

Borik Darkanvil says 'Well a little bit of this and a little bit of that. If there is anything you need assistance in making come see me. I may be able to help.'

You say, 'Do you know how to make the Box of Souls?'

Borik Darkanvil says 'Borik Darkanvil's eyes grow narrow. 'So looking to capture some souls are you? It's none of my business I suppose so don't answer. I'm pretty sure that I don't want to know. I paid heavily for the formula for the Box of Souls, but its not a price I would pass on to anyone else. There isn't much to it, but it does take the hands of a skilled smith and the magic of Tanaan's forges to event attempt it. First you will need a block of [Perilium].'

You say, 'What is Perilium?'

Borik Darkanvil says 'Perilium was once used to make clockwork machines, there are now stronger metals so it has become harder and harder to find Perilium, much less a block that is large enough to be of any use. Then you will need to find the brain of a crystal spider, this is where the actual soul will be held. Of course the box will need a supernatural power source, the souls are held into place by the horror of their own dreams, the heart of an agony mephit will give the device that power. Forge these with a smithing hammer and a water flask and you will have your box. Of course if you have not the skill, I can [forge them for you].'

You say, 'Will you forge them for me?'

Borik Darkanvil says 'If you return all three items to me I will do the work for you for, a mere three thousand platinum. I will not guarantee my success, but I can guarantee if you do not have the skill, you will fail.'

If your blacksmithing skill is high enough (trivial <= 139), you see this instead:

Borik Darkanvil says 'A smith of your skill does not need my assistance in making the box, however I won't turn away your money. Bring me three thousand platinum, the perilium, the brain, and the heart and I will make the box for you.'

You can attempt this yourself by placing an agony mephit heart, a crystal spider brain, a solid block of perilium, a water flask, and a smithy hammer in a Tanaan forge. Alternately, you can give just the heart, brain, and perilium to Borik along with 3,000 platinum. Be aware that either way the combine can fail.

Once you have the Box of Souls, journey to the Plane of Justice. Kill tormented wraiths until one of three "exiled XXX of Marr" spawns. Hand the Box to each of the three exiled souls of warriors there (they can be targeted but not attacked). Each hands you back the box and a unique soul sphere.

Journey back to the Plane of Valor, and give the three spheres and the box to Grenic Drere.

Grenic Drere says 'Hmm, this is minor vindication, but vindication nonetheless. I will never again fight with my old compatriots, but now I know the punishment of those responsible for my exile is fitting for their crime. We did have an agreement, and while stripped of my rank I still have my honor. This ring is what all Soldiers of Marr wear to enter the Halls of Honor, it serves no use for me any longer, it is yours now.'

He gives you his ring, which gives you alternate access to the Halls of Honor.

You get an entry on your /keyring: "With Marr's Symbol you may enter the Halls of Honor."
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Entire group gets achievement now
# Apr 29 2023 at 3:33 AM Rating: Good
64 posts
Just did this for the ach and everyone in my group who was in the zone with me got it as well.
Smithing trivial <= 122
# Apr 12 2012 at 7:24 PM Rating: Good
3,801 posts
At 122 smithing the combine was trivial.
Keyring info
# Jul 03 2010 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
Completing this quest will add to your characters keychain with the line of text below:

"With Marr's Symbol you may enter the Halls of Honor"
Egat the Dedicated Artisan
Imperator of <Phoenix Ascending>, Erollisi Marr
# Nov 07 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Default
Alright TY verry much for the responce and help pblumeberg
# Nov 02 2004 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
do you have to be flaged for others befor this ? i would like to collect the stuff on my main and help a friend get flaged through this for HoH so he can grp with my at his current lvl of 49... from what i understand you just need to have others in grp when you turn in for them to get the key so if he was in my grp but not flaged would he get the key for it? TY for any info on this.
RE: Flaged
# Nov 04 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
If he's only level 49, he would need only to complete one of the PoJustice Trials and be grouped with you when you do the turn in for this. When you turn these in, everyone in your group that's there (up to 5 others) will get keyed for HoHonor.

Note this only keys them for HoHonor in that they can access it and get the AA & charm upgrade (once they're leveled enough to get AAs and charm). But does nothing towards getting access to the Temple of Marr. Even if he completes the 3 trials, he'll still need to get AD flag before he can enter HoHB (unless piggied into HoHB).
Box returned still?
# Mar 12 2004 at 1:44 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone know if the box is still returned after doing the final hand-in?
RE: Box returned still?
# Oct 10 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
10/10/04 i can confirm that the box is NOT returned

Previous flags?
# Oct 06 2003 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
Just wondering, do you need the trials flags to get the flag from this quest? Just curious :)

[Edit] Eh nm, found out you doo indeed need the previous flags to advance to HoH. Disregard this post, unless youre wondering the same thing :)

Edited, Sun Oct 12 23:24:29 2003
second turn in
# Sep 06 2003 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
After you turn in the box of souls and the 3 shards you get the box back.

I did the single key quest before it was made for an entire group - I'm wondering if I can use the same box to flag a group if I go get more shards - anyone tried this?

Lanys 65 druid
Doing Mithaniel with...
# Jul 15 2003 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
If anyone planning on or hoping to bypass Aerin Dar in their efforts to zone into HoHb with this quest, don't bother.

Even with 3 trials, you are still required to kill Aerin Dar as of July '03. Found this out the annoying way...
# Feb 12 2004 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
You can actually get into HoH via the 85% flagged rule to do the Trials.

You can then get the complete Mithaniel Marr flag by entering HoH B in the same way.

So, Aerin'Dar is not essential.... I know this for a fact because one of my Guildmates did not have A'D till last weekend, but has been able to enter the Tower of Solusek Ro for over a month.
# Jun 26 2003 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
Did this quest with a group of guildies. Just wanted to share how it went.
MQed the 3 pieces and 3K with the PoK NPC with no problems. 3 different people had the quest items. I turned mine in last with the 3K and he successfully made the Box of Souls (whew).
We aggroed the wraiths when we entered the room in PoJ to get the spheres. No * of Marr popped. We waited for respawn and 2 * of Marr popped after the next round. Incidentally we killed the second wraith before the first * of Marr despawned and a different one popped, so there can be two * of Marr up at the same time. The third set of spawns gave us the last * of Marr and we headed to PoV.
I handed the Box of Souls and 3 spheres to Grenic all at once, received my Ring of Marr and everyone verified their /key had HoH on it.
We then ran to PoK and got out free AA and Charm power up. Your Charm will not increase stats wise until you say "I have stories" to get your free AA.
RE: info
# Jun 26 2003 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
37 posts
The part about the charm not increasing in power till you talk to the story man is incorrect. Each new flag I get instantly makes my charm better. You still have to talk to him for your AA though.
RE: info
# Jul 01 2003 at 6:23 AM Rating: Default
26 posts
Mine didn't improve until I had zoned once.
RE: info
# Aug 07 2003 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
If you take off and re-wear the charm (or any piece of gear I think) the stats will improve on the charm.
# May 29 2003 at 8:09 PM Rating: Default
Just did this today solo - 63 druid - The wraiths did not seem to argo on me. I stayed next to the gnomes and root/rotted each one. The all 3 exileds did NOT spawn in a row. I had to clear the room 4 times before I finally received the third one - exiled officer of Marr.

Also, each sphere is labeled Lore but if you hand the box back to the same exiled - whether it's the same one you just spawned or a new spawn - you do not receive the duplicate lore item message, but you also do not receive another sphere. And yes, the gain experience message continues as long as you keep handing the box in.....not sure how much xp you get though =)
Can the heart be MQed?
# May 22 2003 at 10:30 PM Rating: Default
I have the perilium, and the brain on one char and the heart on another char...they are on seperate accounts...I see no reason why I couldnt MQ it for the char I want to get it since its just a turn in...anybody know for sure if it can be MQed to ge the box?
RE: Can the heart be MQed?
# May 27 2003 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
262 posts

With the items on different characters you don't have the option of smithing the box yourself, but you can still MQ it at a cost of 3000 pp.
-- Sylphan Ducambrius, Master Artisan and Enchanter on Cazic-Thule
# May 15 2003 at 8:43 PM Rating: Default
Seems you can keep turning in box to one exiled and he keeps handing back for more experience. I tried this not reading about the three different exiled, and tried turning box into same exiled three times. Only got one sphere, but got three exp messages. I need to go back and get other two spheres, will try this again on last exiled to confirm.
Collecting Souls
# May 06 2003 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
The place where you farm the souls is a room just past the ramp that leads down to the trial room. There are 3 tormented wraiths on one side of the room and 2 gnomes on the other. The wraths are naturally agressive but don't hit very hard. As a 65 warrior the average hit on me was a 50 but ranged anywhere from 20 to 120 and was fairly slow. When you kill a wraith it will fall down dead as normal but another dead mob will spawn beside it. You will give your box to the dead mob that spawns. One of 3 different dead mobs will spawn:

exiled trooper of Marr
exiled officer of Marr
exiled soldier of Marr

When you hand the exiled mob your box, you will get your box back and a soul sphere. You will need to spawn one of each of the exiled until you have all 3 soul spheres. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that only one exiled can exist at a time. You will want to be sure you let the exiled body despawn after you get your soul sphere before killing another wraith. I figured this out after sitting 2 hours and only having an exile trooper spawn off the first pull and never any others. If you do it correctly you should get one of each exiled per spawn cycle. By the way, the respawn time on the wraiths is 15 minutes. Hope this helps
Collecting Souls
# Aug 16 2007 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
48 posts
/loc of room: p208, p74

It's actually the second room south of the trial room on your map. Instead of turning north to the trial area, keep going west and hang a left.
RE: Collecting Souls
# May 27 2003 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
262 posts
I found I had several exiled bodies up at a time, so that's not a problem. But the exiled doesn't lay there for more than five minutes, so you can wait if you want to.
-- Sylphan Ducambrius, Master Artisan and Enchanter on Cazic-Thule
# Apr 30 2003 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
Can you MQ the box of souls if you do the turn in?
# May 07 2003 at 9:44 PM Rating: Default
no you cant MQ the turn in, you need the box to get the soul spears from the exiled guys in poj
Complete walk thru
# Apr 28 2003 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
101 posts
Vicente posted the completed walk-thru on Graffe's site, I'll encourage him to post here.
New Borik Text
# Apr 23 2003 at 7:03 PM Rating: Default
Change in text from Borik:

[Wed Apr 23 19:52:52 2003] You say, 'will you forge them for me'
[Wed Apr 23 19:52:53 2003] Borik Darkanvil says 'A smith of your skill does not need my assistance in making the box, however I won't turn away your money. Bring me three thousand platnium, the perilium, the brain, and the heart and I will make the box for you.'

I noticed the lack of "Be aware that either way the combine can fail."

Looks like he won't fail.

Edited, Wed Apr 23 19:26:36 2003
# Apr 22 2003 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
I would like to know: Do you hand in the box of souls with the souls in it to Drere to get flagged or do you just hand in the three souls without the box to get flagged?

Thank you
RE: Souls
# Apr 27 2003 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
I did this quest today (April 27th) and yes you have to turn the box in also. There was a change in teh text also asking for the box.

Aadwen Cracked, Lvl 65 Chanter, Mixed Nuts
Box of Souls
# Apr 19 2003 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
I can confirm what Rizar said about the box. You defiently don't need sacred water anymore. Used a regular hammer in forge in PoK, also used regular flask of water. Got my Box of Souls about 5 min before this post.

Now, though, it seams the quest is broke as the quest guy isn't up tonight in PoV.
One more update
# Apr 18 2003 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
A mob called a Lucid Arachnae (also PoV) dropped the Crystal Spider Brain. Same brain, was identical in every way to the one off the Luminaii so I assume it is the same.

One note one of the guys in my group said he'd spent months at DD and had never seen that mob before.

Edited, Fri Apr 18 18:48:11 2003
Corrections and Changes
# Apr 12 2003 at 9:46 AM Rating: Excellent
There are some inaccuracies and changes to this quest:

1) On April 7, a patch was added that makes your whole group get a flag.

2) On the same patch, the Agony Mephit Heart was changed to a Nightmare Mephit Heart (still dropped off and Agony Mephit, but may now also drop off Nightmare Mephits). I smithed the Box of Souls using the Nightmare Mephit Heart, so I can confirm that it works.

3) The smithing Trivial for the Box of Souls is =<139.

4) A TANAAN Smith Hammer is NOT needed for this, you use a regular Smithing Hammer.

5) I believe this was already mentioned, but you do not need the Sacred Water anymore. You use a regular Flask of Water when you smith it yourself.

I hope this helps some people.

Rizar Acarius
62 Hunter
Heralds of Dawn
Karana Server

Edited, Sat Apr 12 10:12:06 2003
RE: Corrections and Changes
# Apr 16 2003 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
285 posts
A very nice post. A couple of questions. Do you know how you would get the whole group to be flagged? A detail would be nice on that. Have you confirmed that only flask of water and regular hammer is needed to smith the Box of Souls? Lastly, do you know if the heart now indeed drops off Nightmare Mephids and not only Agony Mephit? Thanks again.

RE: Corrections and Changes
# May 06 2003 at 10:51 AM Rating: Default
To get teh whole group flagged jsut group with the person handing in teh box... i was flagged this way a week ago... u dont get an item but if you /key u see that u have the key for HoH

Veteran Demdar Kratos
59 Outrider of Karana
RE: Corrections and Changes
# Apr 15 2003 at 7:10 PM Rating: Default
I have the 3 spheres now, but as of today at least Grenic is AWOL from his spot in PoValor. :(
# Apr 04 2003 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
was talking with Dorik Darkanvil...

You say, 'will you forge them for me?'
Borik Darkanvil says 'A smith of your skill does not need my assistance in making the box, however I won't turn away your money. Bring me three thousand platinum, the perilium, the brain, and the heart and I will make the box for you.'

This was said with a 165 (unmodified) smithing skill...So I doubt that 175 is the trivial, else he would've said what is shown above in the quest data rather than what he said to me.

Just food for thought! =)
Final object...
# Nov 12 2002 at 5:40 AM Rating: Decent
When this is all done and complete, you should have yourself a Key to Halls of Honor (inside of Plane of Valor).
RE: Final object...
# Jan 11 2003 at 12:58 PM Rating: Default
You need to capture 3 shades in POJ in the box of souls. You turn that box into Grenic Drere in POV. He will give you access to HOH.
RE: Final object...
# Jan 16 2003 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
The names of the three shades are as follows:

exiled trooper of Marr
exiled officer of Marr
exiled soldier of Marr

Capitalization is correct, and each shade will spawn only one of them.
RE: Final object...
# Nov 29 2002 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
Actually, this is just the first part of the quest.

The key gets you straight into the HoH without having to kill Aerin'Dar, but only works for the one person who has completed the quest.

After you have the box of souls you need to kill tormented souls near the trial room in PoJ until three different wounded officers pop, give each of them in turn the box to collect their souls, they will return the box and one soul.

The final turnin is in PoV for a ring which is the HoH key.

Complete info on the quest is in the backalley forum on

#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 19 2002 at 4:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're close, but I don't think that's quite right. I haven't done this quest myself, but I believe the resulting key opens the Aerin'Dar's lair, the dragon in Plane of Valor. I myself had no key, but our raid leader and a few others did, and I know it requires a key, so perhaps that is what the quest is for.
RE: Final object...
# Nov 19 2002 at 3:13 PM Rating: Default
Well...I'm confused.

First...the key to Aerin'Dar is a two part quest comprised of Hearts and Globes that drop from various critters in PoV.

Second...the Box of Souls is supposed to be a key to get you into HoH, but how does that work exactly? Has anyone done this quest as a means of getting into HoH?

Today's patch message references the Box of Souls quest and it seems like it goes beyond just acting as a key to HoH.

Finally...when you give the Perilium, Crystal Brain, and Mephite Heart to the Smith, do you also need to give him a vial of sacred water or does he provide that?

RE: Final object...
# Dec 20 2002 at 9:52 AM Rating: Default
Ok, to clear up the confusion. We are talking about two different quests...
There are two ways to gain access to Halls of Honor
1. Kill Aerin'Dar, the glass dragon in PoV. To get access to him at least one person in the raid needs to have the key to his lair, he can open the door for everyone else. The lair key is the quest with the 3 hearts and 3 globe pieces.
2. Quest the key for HoH. The first step is the Box of Souls. Either you forge it yourself (for that you need the water, but NOT the 3k pp, no clue on trivial) OR let the NPC do the combine for you (for that you only need the crystal spider brain, agony mephit heart and solid block of perilium and 3k pp). Then collect the souls as described above.
If you want to get access to HoH with the key quest, then you don't need the key to Aerin'Dar's lair, since the lair is not involved in the quest.
Chenkov Calgar
Bund des Geistes
Solusek Ro
RE: Final object...
# Dec 09 2002 at 10:20 PM Rating: Default
You don't need the hammer or water. However you do need 3000pp. And, unfortunately, you lose everything if he fails:
[Tue Dec 10 09:53:33 2002] Borik Darkanvil deftly pulls out his smithing hammer and begins to bang away at the Perilium. As he tries to set the Crystal Spider's brain into the casing his hammer slips and a tiny fracture appears on the surface. Borik curses, 'By Brell's beard, I'm sorry I don't fail often with such smithing but I guess luck was not with us.'

RE: Final object...
# Feb 22 2003 at 7:05 PM Rating: Default
The water and the hammer is only used if you choose to take a different route and have a player perform the combine for you.

The Blacksmithing trivial is 175, so find yourself a high skill Blacksmith and save yourself the 3k.
RE: Final object...
# Mar 30 2003 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
27 posts
Only problem there is that all the components are no drop so handing them to someone to smith will prove very problematic.
Drop locations...
# Nov 12 2002 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
Agony Mephits spawn deep in the caves in Plane of Nightmare (hobgoblins and more). The heart is a rare drop. Perilium drops off random mobs in Plane of Innovation. Brain of a Crystal spider drops in Plane of Justice, I believe off the "see through" spiders behind the main castle.
RE: Drop locations...
# Nov 12 2002 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
The crystal spider brain drops in Plane of VALOR actually

and it actually drops off A Luminii Crawler
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