Zenoux's Grimoire
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You must be fluent with Elder Dragon to get this quest.
You say, 'Hail, Zenoux' Zenoux does not appear to understand you. Zenoux regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight. You say, in Elder Dragon, 'Hail, Zenoux' Zenoux says, in Elder Dragon, 'Mortal. . .' He flaps his wings and a talon taps against the floor, making a sharp noise in the silence. 'Mortal. . . time is short. If you can understand me, perhaps you can help me. I need my grimoire, my tome, the source of my power. With help from the [distant ones], I can make my escape.' You say, 'What distant ones?' Zenoux says, in Elder Dragon, 'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence. From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times. I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!' More information needed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This NPC still in the game?
3 posts
anyone try Identifying the book from the Cloak of the Wise Quest?
PoP has alot of items for Multiple Quests
PoP has alot of items for Multiple Quests
I have gone around speaking to various NPCs on my barb rogue that has 100 skill in the language of the NPC's race. None of them understand him.
He has 100 skill in elder dragon but this NPC can't understand him.
He has 100 skill in elder dragon but this NPC can't understand him.
Did you change your language to elder dragon before you hailed him?
5 posts
I think that my first thoughts on what is the true meaning of this quest is right. When i talked about the reactivating the portal quest to get to the elders was correct because "limbo" as he says is another meaning for the world of death or underworld. This means that limbo would be a place where the dead linger and the reactivating portal is a quest to recreate a portal so that you can hail the dead elders in DN. I have had not the time to ensure that this is truthful but i am more likely sure about this being the tome you need for the quest.
66 Mag
EMarr
66 Mag
EMarr
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Also as i re- look at the quest talking about only short time to fufil this is because the portal that you open in reactivating the portal quest the portal does not stay up for long and only have time to hail and then it disappears. Meaning also that the distant ones because you can only reach them at certain times. Because of the way EQ made there table. That you need to try this for yourselves and see how it goes in DN (Dragon Necropolis). And one last thing the dragon needs his grimoire and this tome that you get has more the half the items needed drop from something that is considered ancient in the game. So all of the items must be for his grimoire since they are ancient dragon necromancer research.
Hope this helps
66 Mag
Jester of EMarr
Hope this helps
66 Mag
Jester of EMarr
Has anyone tried giving him the Sacrificer's Grimoire from Mistmoore?
Then again that is from LDoN which came out afterwards. So it probably couldn't be it.
My guess is that since he taps his talon on the floor it may be deeper inside.
Edited, Tue Jan 18 16:46:34 2005
Then again that is from LDoN which came out afterwards. So it probably couldn't be it.
My guess is that since he taps his talon on the floor it may be deeper inside.
Edited, Tue Jan 18 16:46:34 2005
so i dont look like a TOTAL idiot, my below post's title was supposed to be "maybe a real clue" and not in caps, dunno wtf happened to it =P
If you will look at the last paragraph on the PoJ trials page, it says:
Mavuin tells you, 'So you have pleaded my case to the Tribunal, I am most thankful. I hope that they will listen to my case soon and release me. The knowledge that I promised you is this. The followers in the Plane of Tranquility are trying to find information on what has happened to Zebuxoruk. What I know is that he has been captured for a second time. If you want to find out more information I believe you should seek an audience with Karana and Mithaniel Marr. I can only assume that they were present at the time of his capture and know why this has taken place. Also seek from Marr a way to translate the divine language. Only with it can you understand the writing of the gods. There is no more that I can tell you, but thank you once again for your attempt in returning my freedom.'
Notice the:
If you want to find out more information I believe you should seek an audience with Karana and Mithaniel Marr.
Hope this helps!
Edited, Thu Feb 17 17:13:19 2005
Mavuin tells you, 'So you have pleaded my case to the Tribunal, I am most thankful. I hope that they will listen to my case soon and release me. The knowledge that I promised you is this. The followers in the Plane of Tranquility are trying to find information on what has happened to Zebuxoruk. What I know is that he has been captured for a second time. If you want to find out more information I believe you should seek an audience with Karana and Mithaniel Marr. I can only assume that they were present at the time of his capture and know why this has taken place. Also seek from Marr a way to translate the divine language. Only with it can you understand the writing of the gods. There is no more that I can tell you, but thank you once again for your attempt in returning my freedom.'
Notice the:
If you want to find out more information I believe you should seek an audience with Karana and Mithaniel Marr.
Hope this helps!
Edited, Thu Feb 17 17:13:19 2005
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Actually, what he says then is just describing the next part of Planar Progression. Was a good thought...but it unfortunately has nothing to do with this quest.
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Now, before i start, i must say that i have about 5 points in Elder Dragon. so i can't check this.
what do you all say we for get about the first part of his message and focus on the part where he says: 'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence. From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times. I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!'
where he says 'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence' means the the tome that he is looking for would probably be an acient one.
where he says 'From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times.' suggests that it would be a necromancer tome, for reasons stated in other posts.
and where he says 'I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!' i see him bribing you (Evil, reenforcing the necromancer aspect) for a book, which was stated earlier, to be something that giver power.
so from this i get a 'Ancient Tome of Necromantic Magic' which, luckily, exists (to the letter) in the game.
Edited 8/31/04-- tried this out, failed. got the tome back and got uot of there, i'm looking in to other possibilities now.
Edited, Tue Aug 31 13:21:51 2004
what do you all say we for get about the first part of his message and focus on the part where he says: 'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence. From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times. I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!'
where he says 'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence' means the the tome that he is looking for would probably be an acient one.
where he says 'From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times.' suggests that it would be a necromancer tome, for reasons stated in other posts.
and where he says 'I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!' i see him bribing you (Evil, reenforcing the necromancer aspect) for a book, which was stated earlier, to be something that giver power.
so from this i get a 'Ancient Tome of Necromantic Magic' which, luckily, exists (to the letter) in the game.
Edited 8/31/04-- tried this out, failed. got the tome back and got uot of there, i'm looking in to other possibilities now.
Edited, Tue Aug 31 13:21:51 2004
I think the Grimoire he wants is
Grimoire of Extraplanar Wisdom
which drops in Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind AKA Plane of Air (4th tier planar zone)
This is unconfirmed but I have seen the book drop once and it was awarded to another guildie, If I see it drop again I will send tell for the item in hopes of completing this quest...
Edited, Wed Jul 14 11:37:39 2004
Grimoire of Extraplanar Wisdom
which drops in Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind AKA Plane of Air (4th tier planar zone)
This is unconfirmed but I have seen the book drop once and it was awarded to another guildie, If I see it drop again I will send tell for the item in hopes of completing this quest...
Edited, Wed Jul 14 11:37:39 2004
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thi definatly has something to do with Dragon Necropolis anyone who says otherwise is retarded. listen to how he says this "With help from the [distant ones], I can make my escape" he could have said find the distant ones to help me to escape or something like that so he will be an outcast from whever he is from because of the style in which he talks about escaping, this is one more clue. this phrase is farr to obvious IMHO "From the depths of Limbo can I convene with them. . . they, the distant ones. My bidding can they fulfill, for short times" Limbo being a state between life and death and look how he uses the term They instead of them sounds like he doesn`t know them at all. Also My bidding can they fulfill, for short times. i don`t know why u put can they instead of they can but what type of class can controll people between life and death ... Necros and he is a dragon so where would a necro dragon most likely come from ?? /bonk
One other thing that makes me sure he is a necro is this "'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence" hes god damn big headed and must be a necro =p well hope this helps gonna look up quests starting in and involving Dragon necropolis to find anything else out
One other thing that makes me sure he is a necro is this "'My learning is one of the eldest. . . perhaps. . . in all existence" hes god damn big headed and must be a necro =p well hope this helps gonna look up quests starting in and involving Dragon necropolis to find anything else out
5 posts
Ok in the zone Dragon Necropolis there is a quest called reactivate the portals. Now when the Zenoux specks (in PoJ) he says about the distant ones. Also that he has one of the eldest teaching meaning most of the elders would have died. To reactivate the portals prolly means to open a gate to the dead to the elders. The reward for the quest in DN is Tome of the Outcast. Now i think that they are talking about zenoux and how he is a outcast now that he is trapped in PoJ. I am about to go hand him this tome see if this is the final step.
Ndaien Cookies
Jester of Marr
Ndaien Cookies
Jester of Marr
did it work??
I guess the Dragon ate him. :\
Has anyone figured this out yet?
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i think it is a necromancer thing...limbo, like purgatory or such, place where the dead wait? distant ones? the dead that can be summoned temporarily back to do a necromancers bidding...yea just my thoughts
7 posts
Might be worth a shot, these are fairly common in the revamped Hole. No connection at all except the word "lost" and the lore about Miragul who was also a source of ancient power.
So theirs actaully quests where u need to speak a language HAH the days of Faerie Speaking may not be in vain hah so any quests where i need to talk faerie cause I was like hitting this faerie and I said sorry and she didnt say anything heh.
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Guys, here are my ideas on this...
As some of you might know, there is a quest in PoK, where you have to combine PAGES in a BOOK. After the combine, you receive the Tome of Dark Power. The pages for this quest drop in PoJustice (!), PoNightmare & PoInnovation. Also the quest is given by an Iksar in the PoK library, which can be the referred "distant one". Iksar look like dragon relatives somehow ;)
Has anyone ever tried to trade in the quest-tome to the dragon instead of the NPC in PoK library? Maybe it's worth a try... I will try to trade the book to the dragon as soon as I get the last missing page (pg15, if anyone from KD happens to read this ;)). If anyone does it before I manage to do so, please let us know here of the results and maybe safe us further time with camping for the pages...
Edited, Mon Nov 17 08:35:21 2003
As some of you might know, there is a quest in PoK, where you have to combine PAGES in a BOOK. After the combine, you receive the Tome of Dark Power. The pages for this quest drop in PoJustice (!), PoNightmare & PoInnovation. Also the quest is given by an Iksar in the PoK library, which can be the referred "distant one". Iksar look like dragon relatives somehow ;)
Has anyone ever tried to trade in the quest-tome to the dragon instead of the NPC in PoK library? Maybe it's worth a try... I will try to trade the book to the dragon as soon as I get the last missing page (pg15, if anyone from KD happens to read this ;)). If anyone does it before I manage to do so, please let us know here of the results and maybe safe us further time with camping for the pages...
Edited, Mon Nov 17 08:35:21 2003
7 posts
This seems like a good idea, but it is just an idea. Let us say Dragon is Necro. If there was a book that made this dragon very powerful Trak would not like this right? So he takes away his book and for one reason or another he gives it to Miragul it now becomes Mirigul's Tome. Now Miragul was a Necro and the distant ones could be the dead, they can do his bidding for a short time.... like how necro's summon the dead, or like the summoned in the hole, where the book drops.
Not being high enough lvl or fluent in Elder Dragon i can not try this but would be really cool if some else did.
Not being high enough lvl or fluent in Elder Dragon i can not try this but would be really cool if some else did.
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Has anyone looked into the Lost Tome quest from PoG?
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=881
Perhaps the "distant ones" as someone mentioned are elementals.. and in the Lost Tome quest there was one servant of Innoruuk who wanted to steal the knowledge of his peers, which would explain his saying "my grimoire, my tome, the source of my power", since the tomes supposedly held incredibly powerful arcane knowledge. Perhaps instead of turning the tomes into the treant in PoG, you can turn them into Zenoux.. and maybe by mentioning Zenoux to one of those dragons that drop the tomes you can even be given the tome.. worth a shot...
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=881
Perhaps the "distant ones" as someone mentioned are elementals.. and in the Lost Tome quest there was one servant of Innoruuk who wanted to steal the knowledge of his peers, which would explain his saying "my grimoire, my tome, the source of my power", since the tomes supposedly held incredibly powerful arcane knowledge. Perhaps instead of turning the tomes into the treant in PoG, you can turn them into Zenoux.. and maybe by mentioning Zenoux to one of those dragons that drop the tomes you can even be given the tome.. worth a shot...
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Hi all -
Ready for this? I am 99% certain I know the item Zenoux is searching for...and I destroyed it about a week ago because I couldn't figure what it was for and was cleaning inventory. </em bangs head with fist>.
The item drops in PoJ...for some reason while searching for the purpose of the item I never looked at the PoJ quests. I got it at the 4 spawn, so it came either from a Punisher or an Enforcer. The item? "Section of a Draconic Tome" - looks like a opened scroll with "writing" lines on it. Seems likely that it's one of a few pieces we'll need (since it says Section), and I've only ever seen the one drop.
I hope this is helpful (though I kinda hope someone tells me I'm wrong and I didn't destroy the key item to an unsolved quest!)...
- Hadrigarda
55 Shaman
Erollisi Marr
Ready for this? I am 99% certain I know the item Zenoux is searching for...and I destroyed it about a week ago because I couldn't figure what it was for and was cleaning inventory. </em bangs head with fist>.
The item drops in PoJ...for some reason while searching for the purpose of the item I never looked at the PoJ quests. I got it at the 4 spawn, so it came either from a Punisher or an Enforcer. The item? "Section of a Draconic Tome" - looks like a opened scroll with "writing" lines on it. Seems likely that it's one of a few pieces we'll need (since it says Section), and I've only ever seen the one drop.
I hope this is helpful (though I kinda hope someone tells me I'm wrong and I didn't destroy the key item to an unsolved quest!)...
- Hadrigarda
55 Shaman
Erollisi Marr
Actually, there are four Section(s) of a Draconic Tome that are required drops for the Ancient Draconic Tome quest from the Scars of Velious expansion. This is not to say that the resulting quest reward from that quest is not the required item for this quest, nor to say that no similarly named items drop in the Plane of Justice, only to say that the item you mentioned has a known use.
Edited, Thu Aug 7 14:23:52 2003
Edited, Thu Aug 7 14:23:52 2003
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i dont think he's lookin for a tome. bein that he says "I need my grimoire! My grimoire, hear me, Wood Elf! Fetch it and I can reward you with riches beyond your wildest reckoning! Hurry!" i would think that he wants a grimorire.
Scholar
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A grimoire is a spell book. A tome is a book. A tome can be a grimoire. A grimoire is a tome.
Edited, Mon Aug 4 13:35:53 2003
Edited, Mon Aug 4 13:35:53 2003
I'm pretty sure a spell book is one that you read and get the corrent wording in your mind to speak them making the book just a reference. A grimoire is an enchanted spellbook that will still let anyone knowledgeable read from it yet the wording is different and the spell will only work while you are in possesion of the grimoire itself.
I suppose a good example is that spell books are like manually typing in binary or some such low level language to get the job done but it's still a lengthy process and you must memorize how to say the spells so there isn't much room for customizing it too much given time limitations. Where as a grimore is like a C++ compiler of sorts letting you use something someone has already created and manipulate it to your whims using a smaller amount of words or symbols that are bound to the lower level of spells, the benefit being you can cast them quicker and it is less stress on you and the cost being if you don't have the book the words you speak are just giberish. Also a tiny bit of delay would come from the book having to recieve your magical energies to channel through to the different spells it will cast then channeling the correct magics back to you for usage while just speaking a memorized spell will activate it immediately from yourself...
Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
Edited, Thu Sep 30 19:28:13 2004
I suppose a good example is that spell books are like manually typing in binary or some such low level language to get the job done but it's still a lengthy process and you must memorize how to say the spells so there isn't much room for customizing it too much given time limitations. Where as a grimore is like a C++ compiler of sorts letting you use something someone has already created and manipulate it to your whims using a smaller amount of words or symbols that are bound to the lower level of spells, the benefit being you can cast them quicker and it is less stress on you and the cost being if you don't have the book the words you speak are just giberish. Also a tiny bit of delay would come from the book having to recieve your magical energies to channel through to the different spells it will cast then channeling the correct magics back to you for usage while just speaking a memorized spell will activate it immediately from yourself...
Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
Edited, Thu Sep 30 19:28:13 2004
A spell book has...well, spells. A grimoire is different, it's written in a shorthand only the writer knows, making it unusable to anyone else who possesses it. Unless someone has the key to it, it's written in a unique language only one person knows, not pig latin either.
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Is Zenoux in PoJ? He is not listed in the bestiary for PoJ. I would like to work on this quest but can't find this guy.
yes he is in a cell. if you leave the tunnel by left exit and go left he is in the third cell you come to.
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I think part of the message is not well understood... Limbo is the place where souls wait for judgement, so i think it is PoJ. Also, the distant ones could be the dead, not dragons or undead. It make sense if this guy looks like a necro. So, if PoJ is not totally explored, there must be a place deep inside, where we can get some new info.
Just a new point of view.
Just a new point of view.
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I personally think that this idea has hit the nail on the head so to speak. I don’t think it would have anything to do with LoY like that one person said but it may have to do with ST ... The PoJ thing and Sleepers Tomb are the best 2 ideas I have seen yet. Thanks for reading my babblings...
..Edit.. it might have something to do with the trial.. just a thought
Longtung Dancingtoad
54 Paladin
Brell Serilis Server
Edited, Sun Jul 27 13:25:26 2003
..Edit.. it might have something to do with the trial.. just a thought
Longtung Dancingtoad
54 Paladin
Brell Serilis Server
Edited, Sun Jul 27 13:25:26 2003
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Only one problem, ze casts like a wizy... just my 2cp
Ok, I myself (52 Enchanter) have tried talking to him (100 Elder Dragon) and of course he said what was said above. I tried asking a few other things (can't remember exactly what I said) as to why he was there, where he was there... nothing worked...
What Valuric said struck some new light on the quest... perhaps combining all of Zenoux's pages into one book (the one obtained from Gunthak) might turn out to be... something. I'll post an update once I give it a shot.
What Valuric said struck some new light on the quest... perhaps combining all of Zenoux's pages into one book (the one obtained from Gunthak) might turn out to be... something. I'll post an update once I give it a shot.
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Hmmm well he says I need "My" grimoire, so it might be something not found yet like "Part of Zenoux's Grimoire page whatever" He also says "My" Tome, so the pages could be combined in a tome, if you ask him further question like "What Grimoire" or "What Tome"
There are caves in PoJ, been at the ent, some cool looking mobs there, maybe further in something might drop related, there are also alot of other unexplored places in PoJ, might be worth a raid :)
There are caves in PoJ, been at the ent, some cool looking mobs there, maybe further in something might drop related, there are also alot of other unexplored places in PoJ, might be worth a raid :)
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is there anything from Sleeper's that might fit into his description and all, cuz u need to speak elder dragon and all...maybe this could end up being a way to respawn sleeper.
Interesting post but ummm no im pretty sure youre wrong, and even if you could respawn the sleeper, who would kill her? plus its a PoP quest the sleeper is in Velious, i havent seen a PoP quest that involves another expansion.....yet
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