Sage's Box of Research  

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Entered: Thu Oct 24 19:25:04 2002
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
Sage Xelrin may be found at +675, +915.

You say, 'Hail, Sage Xelrin'

Sage Xelrin says 'Greetings Venka. I assume you are here to ask about my research? I imagine that word has spread of my groundbreaking approach to spell creation. Well I am always willing to enlighten those that choose to learn. As not to bog you down with too many details, my theory is simple.
[Continue]'

You say, 'continue'

Sage Xelrin says 'Well the idea is rather basic. As I am sure you know, there are many magical artifacts in the world with effects that we have not mastered. It is my conjecture that some of the magic may be extracted from these items in order to further our magical repetoire. Even in the case where an object has a spell that we already have access to, I believe the binding used to tie the magic to the object could be useful as well.
[Continue]'

You say, 'continue'

Sage Xelrin says 'By using this box created in cooperation with the [other sages] in Knowledge, you will be able to either extract a magical scroll or the binding used to hold the magic to the object. Those elements will be the basis for my research. Just bring anything you manage to extract for me.'

You say, 'who are the other sages'

Sage Xelrin says 'Well my associates are working on their own theories for the creation of new magic. I am sure that their projects are no where near advanced as mine, but even their primitive research could prove a boon in my own work. If you happen to come across any of their research feel free to show it to my assistants, they will know the best manner in which to process it. Bring research from Balic to Bolcen, and Gunyth's research to Acomar. Thank you for your assistance.'

At which point he hands you a "Sage's Box of Research" as described below.

*Part 2 - Kartis District*

Sage Gunyth may be found at -660, +1010.

You say, 'Hail, Sage Gunyth'

Sage Gunyth turns a condescending eye towards you. 'I am quite busy here, and I do not appreciate interruptions. My [research] is important, and I do not have time to explain everything to you.'

You say, 'what research'

Sage Gunyth says 'Well it seems that I am not going to rid myself of you so easily so I will explain what I can. I will be sure to use small words and simple concepts so you will be sure to understand. Every spell is much like an orchestra; there are different instruments and octaves, and every instrument has a range of notes. These notes are the important component.
[Continue]'

You say, 'continue'

Sage Gunyth says 'It is my theory that all of the notes have been discovered, and creating new spells will just be a matter of combining notes in new and different fashions. Since you seem so interested in my research, I can use assistance in gathering notes. I have separated all the spells that are readily accessible to me, but I do not have time to gather
components from the more difficult to obtain spells. [Continue]'

You say, 'continue'

Sage Gunyth says 'I have constructed this extractor to break spells apart into their notes. It will not work on all spells, and I do not have time to compile a list of spells that it will and will not work on. As my apprentice, as that seems to be what you are intent on becoming, you will separate any spells you come across and return the notes to me where, you will need to insert four spell scrolls of the same power belonging to different arcane circles. For some reason the extractor only works for spells between the 10th and 14th circles, I hope to have that problem resolved soon. This extractor is not simple to use, and you will find you will have more success with the more powerful spells if you have a greater understanding on how spells are constructed. There is one more [task] that I require of my understudy.'

You say, 'what task'

Sage Gunyth says 'There are two other sages who like to call themselves my equals. They are taking different paths in their studies, and it would be to our benefit to have access to their work, I created that extractor with their aid so I know their methods cannot be far from my own. You must also gather what information you can from their research and return Balic's research to Onirelin Gali my assistant, and Xelrin's research to Xasri Virek his associate. I have nothing more for you, and I have been distracted long enough, be off!'

*Part 3 - Tanaan District*
You say, 'Hail, Sage Balic'

Sage Balic says 'Greetings friend. Welcome to my place of private contemplation. I relax here and leaf through my old studies, admiring at creations from the past made by races we thought would never amount to anything.'

You say, 'Tell me about your research'

Sage Balic says 'My research? Oh, I imagine Tenada sent you to me. I'd love to tell you about my studies, if you have time to listen. [Continue]'

You say, 'Continue'

Sage Balic says 'I have come to Knowledge to fine-tune my abilities in spell craft. To date I've been able to create some minor incantations, but have had little success in creating any magic that was truly revolutionary. I am actually in a bit of a race with the other Sages who are my contemporaries. They too are looking to make a major breakthrough . . . Come to think of it, I could probably find quite a few [uses for their research], should you manage to come by any of it. [Continue]'

You say, 'continue'

Sage Balic says 'Sorry, I digress. Where was I? Oh yes! In the past I, as well as the other Sages, have had little success; however from the volumes of information found here, each of us found a new outlook on the creation of magic. I found that most of the magical discoveries came from existing magical components, mostly runes and words of power. Should you come by any of these components please use this box to check to see if they have the proper magical configuration, the extractor will be able to remove what it needs if you find a valid combination, right now I believe the box will only function with a single word and rune of approximately the same power.'

You say, 'what kind of uses for their research'

Sage Balic says 'Well it couldn't hurt, now could it? If you manage to 'acquire' any of their research feel free to show it to my assistants; Xelrin's research to Tenada and Gunyth's research to Winon downstairs.'

Each sage will try to hand you a Sage's Box of Research, but it is all the same box so you'll get lore messages.

For Xelrin, you need to head out and collect weapons from the original Everquest game. Return the resulting unuseable items to Xelrin for the following rewards:

Combine: Staff of Writhing
Result: Evocation Binding
Trade: Orb of Arcane Visions, with 5 charges of Deftness

Combine: Polished Granite Tomahawk
Result: Abjuration Binding
Trade: Flawed Spell Creation, with 5 charges of Resist Magic

Combine: Kicsh Der Pavz
Result: Spell: Strong Poison
Trade: Visionary's Lens, with 5 charges of Greater Shielding

Combine: Short Sword of the Ykesha
Result: Spell: Ykesha
Trade: Gleaming Bauble, with 5 charges of Spikecoat

Combine: Screaming Mace
Result: Spell: Screaming Mace
Trade: Sentient Medallion, with 5 charges of Resist Disease

For Gunyth, you need to head out and collect a bunch of dropped and researched spells of the same level (one from each of the pure caster classes) to extract the underlying Notes. Turn in the Notes to Sage Gunyth for the following rewards:

Level 39 - 3 Researched Spells + 1 drop
Combine: Lesser Conjuration Earth, Wandering Mind, Invisiblility To Undead, and Chilling Embrace
Result: Aqi Note
Trade: Talisman of Research, with 5 charges of Storm Strength

Level 44 - 4 Velious spell drops
Combine: Enticement of Flame, Boon of the Garou, Elemental Maelstrom, and Corporeal Emapthy
Result: Bep Note
Trade: Amulet of Knowledge, with 5 charges of Shade.

Level 49 - 4 Research Spells
Combine: Allure, Bond of Death, Greater Conjuration: Fire, and Wrath of Al`Kabor
Result: Cjo Note
Trade: Book of Forgotten Magic, with 5 charges Group Resist Magic

Level 50 - 4 Velious spell drops
Combine: Improved Invis, Improved invis to undead, Transclocate, and Monster Summoning 2
Result: Da Note
Trade: Arcane quill, with 5 charges of Elemental Armor

level 51 - 4 Kunark spell drops
Combine: Gift of Xev, Splurt, Theft of Thought, and Atol's Spirit Shackles
Result: Eio Note
Trade: Gem of Flowing Breath, with 5 charges of Enduring Breath

For Balic, you need to head out and collect a bunch of words and runes to extract the underlying combined unuseable words. One interesting note is that the resulting words identify as "Rune of XXXX," where "XXXX" is what came after the word used in the original combine. E.g., Words of Possession + Rune of the Combine = Word of Combine (identifies as Rune of Possession). Turn in the words to Sage Balic for the following rewards:

Combine: Words of Possession, Rune of the Combine
Result: Word of Combine
Trade: Sage's Apprentice Cap, with 5 charges of Phantom Chain

Combine: Words of Duress, Rune of Sorcery
Result: Word of Sorcery
Trade: Twisted Talisman, with 5 charges of Obscure

Combine: Words of the Suffering, Rune of the Helix
Result: Word of Helix
Trade: Three Ringed Hoop, with 5 charges of Summon Twisted Ring

Combine: Words of Incarceration, Rune of the Inverse
Result: Word of Inverse
Trade: Joined Signet, with 5 charges of Insight

Combine: Words of Bondage, Rune of Impetus
Result: Word of Impetus
Trade: Apprentice's Notebook, with 5 charges of Charisma

Returning the unuseable intermediate results to the other sages' apprentices yields cash loot and experience.

Given the expendable nature of the quest rewards, it is unclear whether further combines are possible for greater rewards.

Need /loc of sages, trivial and/or no-fail information on various combines, missing dialogues, faction hits if any.
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Hmmm
# Nov 11 2002 at 12:27 AM Rating: Decent
I'm curious if anyone has tried the Acrylia Runes that drop on the moon?
Tenada
# Nov 07 2002 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
Could someone post zone/loc or perhaps the script from "Tenada"?

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You say, 'Tell me about your research'

Sage Balic says 'My research? Oh, I imagine Tenada sent you to me. I'd love to tell you
RE: Tenada
# Nov 07 2002 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Tenada is one of Balic's assistants located right below him. I don't have the exact logs but all he says is to ask his instructor (Balic) about his research. Hope that helps!
Testing
# Nov 06 2002 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
I have sucessfully made the lvl 44, 49, 50, and 51 notes and turned them in for the charged items.

Here's what I have tried so far:

-combine 4 charged items in sage's box (DNC)

-combine each item individually in sage's box (DNC)

-identified each charged item, all the same except gem of flowing breath is "gem of farseeing"...most likely a programming error but never know...

-turned in all four items into Gunyth, but he just handed them all back

-turned in each one seperately, same as above

That's all i've gotten so far with Gunyth...

Now the other sages are even stranger but here is my theory:

3 sages, each ask for different things to be combined. Gunyth asks for 4 spells to be combined, the other asks for charged items to be combined, and the last asks for one rune and one word.

SO...

My bet is that once you get the combinations for the rune/word, you combine whatever that returns with the charged items from Gunyth. This should make either a new scroll or another item that you have to turn into the second sage for the reward.

-OR-

you combine the three things from each sage in the box to get a spell or something (this one sounds more plausable but much harder cuase there are so many items to try in the freaking box)

One last thing, for the rune/word combine I have tried to combine the 5 words from the 44 level spells (necro/mage) with all the lvl 39,44,and 49 wizard runes but they were all DNC so i am completely lost with this part. I also have no clue what charged items have to be combined in the box for the second sage, but I am guessing there are four items that each have a spell from the 4 int caster class.

Good Luck!

P.S. Please post any findings or DNC that you have done! Lets figure this quest out!!!

Edited, Wed Nov 6 23:35:29 2002
all found now
# Oct 29 2002 at 3:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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Level 39-
Lesser Conj. Earth
Wandering Mind
Wizard Invisibility vs. Undead
Chilling Embrace
Results in Aqi note. Aqi note to Gunyth does nothing except return the note.

Level 44-
Boon of the Garou
Corpal Empathy
Elemental Maelstrom
Enticement of Flame
Results in "Bep Note." Bep Note to Gunyth rewards Amulet of Knowledge (5 charges of Shade).

Level 49
Allure
Bond of Death
Greater Conjuration: Fire
Wrath of Al'Kabor
Results in "Cjo Note." Cjo Note to Gunyth rewards Book of Forgotten Magic (5 charges Group Resist Magic).

Level 50-
Improved Invisibility
Improved Invisibility vs Undead
Monster Summoning 2
Translocate
Results in "Da Note." Da Note to Gunyth rewards Arcane Quill (5 charges Elemental Armor).

Level 51-
Theft of Thought
Splurt
Gift of Xev
Atol's Spectral Shackles
Results in "Eio Note". Eio Note to Gunyth rewards Gem of Flowing Breath (5 charges Everlasting Breath).


Copied and compiled from below posts.
Anyone with all of these try combining the 4 charged items together in the box, or giving them all at once to Gunyth? I assume there must be another step, 4 charged items and a "note" seem pretty pointless.

Edited, Tue Oct 29 15:32:34 2002
Final Gunyth spell combination
# Oct 29 2002 at 3:17 AM Rating: Decent
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The level 39 combine produces the Aqi Note. The sage doesn't give you anything for it, he just hands it back w/o saying anything. So far nobody has turned in the Aqi note to an assistant because of the expense of this combine. (Some mages have spent up to 8K to get all the spells)

The recipie is: Lesser Conjuration: Earth, Wandering Mind, ITU(wiz version), & Chilling Embrace
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More to the Quest
# Oct 28 2002 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Each of the Sages mentions that they can use the research of the others, if you happen to come across it. They will give the name of the assistant to hand in the items to. Has anyone tried turning in any of Gunyth's research to the assistants of the other sages?
RE: More to the Quest
# Oct 29 2002 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes when the Notes from Gunyth's quest are given to the assistants you get cash loot (up to blue diamonds) and exp.

When you give the notes to Gunyth you get a mediocre magic item for all but the Aqi Note. He just returns the Aqi note to you.

If you give the magic items Gunyth gives you to the other research assistants they just return them to you.
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For the Light of a Candle to be Seen, It must be taken to a Dark Place -- UKLG
Gunyth Spell combinations
# Oct 27 2002 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
Level 44-
Boon of the Garou
Corpal Empathy
Elemental Maelstrom
Enticement of Flame
Results in "Bep Note." Bep Note to Gunyth rewards Amulet of Knowledge (5 charges of Shade).

Level 49-(new)
Allure
Bond of Death
Greater Conjuration: Fire
Wrath of Al'Kabor
Results in "Cjo Note." Cjo Note to Gunyth rewards Book of Forgotten Magic (5 charges Group Resist Magic).

Level 50-
Improved Invisibility
Improved Invisibility vs Undead
Monster Summoning 2
Translocate
Results in "Da Note." Da Note to Gunyth rewards Arcane Quill (5 charges Elemental Armor).

Level 51-
Theft of Thought
Splurt
Gift of Xev
Atol's Spectral Shackles
Results in "Eio Note". Eio Note to Gunyth rewards Gem of Flowing Breath (5 charges Everlasting Breath).

All combines were trivial at 153.
4 reward items combined in Sage's Box = DNC.
Level 39 spell combination still undiscovered.

Olric Mithandyr
Level 58 Wizard of Ayonae Ro
RE: Gunyth Spell combinations
# Oct 28 2002 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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good job. I've looked at the CastersRealm spell lists, and there are 3 level 39 dropped spells- Wandering Mind, Invisibility vs. Undead, and Chilling Embrace. I can't figure out what mage spell should go with those three. I am currently out of money to buy these spells, so somebody else might want to try.

The level 51 combine was unattemptable with a 140 research skill. I don't have the spells to try the 50 combine, but the 44 combine was trivial. Will try the 49 combine sometime soon.
RE: Gunyth Spell combinations
# Oct 28 2002 at 1:33 AM Rating: Decent
notice how all of those went to the same sage? I tried handing a bep note to sage balic and he gave it back to me. I think we need to discover a valid combination for each of the three sages from the same level then combine those results.
Possible Balic Combines
# Oct 26 2002 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Note what Sage Balic says: "Should you come by any of these components please use this box to check to see if they have the proper magical configuration, the extractor will be able to remove what it needs if you find a valid combination, right now I believe the box will only function with a single word and rune of approximately the same power.'

If one assumes that power = level, I think we should be combining words and runes of different levels, not the same level. Like level 49 runes with level 44 words or level 44 runes with level 49 words. Hopefully the results will not be random spells like the parchment quests.
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Notes
# Oct 26 2002 at 5:08 PM Rating: Decent
On a similar thread, has someone tried giving him multiple notes at once to see if he'll combine them? just a thought.
more words
# Oct 25 2002 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
Found Words of Crippling force, tried all combines with 49 Runes... All DNC.

We must be missing something.
more words/runes
# Oct 25 2002 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
Tried the following combines with all 49 wiz runes (Frost, Astral,Concussion, ApSagor, Impetus, Rathe and Crippling)

You can cross these off your list as DNC's.
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Words of Odus
Words of Ethereal
Words of Requisition
Words of Acquisition(beza)
Words of Grappling

Words of Bondage
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This leaves the only 49 word combine not tried as Words of Crippling Force
Known combinations for Gunthy's quest
# Oct 25 2002 at 5:02 AM Rating: Decent
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So far the level 39 and 49 combines have eluded us.

Level 44 Velious spells
Combine: Enticement of Flame, Bood of Garou, Elemental maelstrom, and Corpral Emapthy
Result: Bep Note
Trade: Amulet of Knowledge with 5 charges of shade.

Level 50 Velious spells
Combine: Improved Invis, Improved invis to undead, transclocate, monster summoning 2
Result: Da Note
Trade: Da note handed in to Gunthy gives back Arcane quill. The poster didn't metion the effect on it.

level 51 Kunark spells
Combine: Gift of Xev, Splurt, Theft of Thought, and Atol's Spirit Shackles
Result: Eio Note
Trade: Gem of Flowing breath. Which has 5 charges of EB.


So it seems we are missing the combinations for the A & C notes.
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Combining words and runes for Sage Balic
# Oct 25 2002 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Looking up words and runes by the level spell they make and trying to match them up, I tried the following combiniations in the "Sage's Box of Research" that Sage Balic gave me.

Word + Rune = ??
Haunting + Al'Kabor = DNC
Sight + Al'Kabor = DNC
Dimension + Xegony = DNC
Cazic-Thule + Al'Kabor = DNC
Acquisition + Concussion = DNC
Acquisition + Rathe = DNC
Ethereal + Concussion = DNC
Ethereal + Rathe = DNC
Collection (Azia) + Helix = DNC
Spectre + Helix = DNC
Burnishing + Rathe = DNC

Well, I must not be getting something, or the combinations must be purposefully frustratingly uncommon. Anyone have better success?
Combining words and runes for
# Oct 25 2002 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I have combined a dozen different combinations of word + rune without finding one that succeeded. Typed out the list but it ended up in the cosmic bit bucket, anyone find a combination that works ?

Edited, Fri Oct 25 04:38:17 2002
Gunyth
# Oct 24 2002 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, the payoff isn't worth it really, but for instance...

Gunyth Wants you to combine 4 spells, which then creates a note. If you take 4 Lvl 44 drop spells (One each of Mage, Enchanter, Necro & Wiz) and combine them, you get :

BEP NOTE
Magic, Nodrop
Weight 0.5

So, take the note to Gunyth and turn it in and you get...

AMULET OF KNOWLEGDE
Magic, Lore, Nodrop
Expendable charges: 5
Effect: Shade (Lvl 39 Enc AC buff), Cast time 10.0
Wt 0.5, size small, Class: None, Race: None

Note: This item has already been nerfed. It had 10 charges last night.

Details: The sage gives the same reward for each note turned in, every time. Bep always rewards Amulet of Knowledge. (Recharges?)

I know another player who made 2 other notes, his rewards were
An item with 10 (5) charges of Everlasting Breath
An item with 10 (5) charges of Elemental Shield

All Lore, Nodrop.

Side note: Each sage has an assistant who will take the other sage's research. I tested both assistants, received A Sapphire (2) and an Opal Bracelet (2) as cash loot rewards. <Turned in 2 notes to each Assistant to test them :) >

Edited, Thu Oct 24 20:43:53 2002
3 sages
# Oct 24 2002 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
Actually there are 3 sages I foudn 1 in each of the big bridges all 3 of them will give you the same box. Each one has a differnt method of extracting the magic. (Sage Balic, Gunyth, Xelran)

They want to work together and need yoru help to do it form what I understand. They want you to take one persons method and try appling it and then taking the research to someone else.

Ballic sounds liek he wants you to take a research word and a research rune that make teh same level spell and stiock em in the box and hit combien to get something

Another guy wnats you to take 4 spells of each a differnt arcane knowlge between circles 10-14 from the same class and combine them (i'm guessing liek 1 Abjuration 1 COnjuration 1 Divination and 1 alteration spell all level 12 form one class)

Then 2 of the mages tell you to take research to other people

One guy said take Balic's research to Bolcen and Gunyth's research to Acomar

anotehr guy says to take Balic's research method to Onierlin gail and Xelran's research to Xasri

Sounds liek a lot of expirmentation will be needed for teh box recipies and then who you take it to for what.
RE: 3 sages
# Oct 24 2002 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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The way I read it is that they are all compeating or rivals. But they want to know what the others are up to and how far along they are. I remember 1 asking that you take any reasearch that you happen to obtain from the others, and give it to one of his aids downstairs.
RE: 3 sages
# Oct 24 2002 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
Actually 10-14th circles means spells between level 39-51. You'll need one from each class of int caster (necro, mage, wizzy, enc) and it only works with certain combinations of spells. One combo is four dropped spells from Velks.
RE: 3 sages
# Oct 24 2002 at 6:50 PM Rating: Good
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I agree with Spootimus' summation. 10th thru 14th "circle" = level 39-51 spells...level 1 is 1st circle, level 4 is 2nd circle, etc.

I'd also thought that Sage Gunyth was asking for 4 spells of the same power/level from the 4 different pure caster classes.

I haven't tried the drops from Velks yet, I'm currently playing around with research words and runes of the 49th level.
Seperating
# Oct 24 2002 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
The guy says that you put 4 spells in the box to seperate them or somthing. Does anyone know what hes talking about?
RE: Seperating
# Oct 24 2002 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
I'm not sure, but it sounds like he wants you to put 4 different 44th - 53rd lvl spells into his box to separate them into "notes" then you give him the notes to make them into a spell. But that is a different person and not related to this one.
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