I don't believe this is correct. Aradune has been using PoHateB since launch. The original, pre-Ykesha PoHate (the one currently used on P99 with two floors and a large central spiral staircase) has never been used on Aradune. I cannot speak to previous TLPs, but I will point out that the forum post in which Prathun mentions that HatePlaneB is released with LDoN (LoY is usually released at the same time as LDoN on TLP) is over three years old. The wiki seems to be incorrect and I don't believe TLPs have used the original PoHate in years.
Regardless, unless there was a second revamp to PoHate, the drop info I listed was for PoHateB.
I don't believe this is correct. Aradune has been using PoHateB since launch. The original, pre-Ykesha PoHate (the one currently used on P99 with two floors and a large central spiral staircase) has never been used on Aradune. I cannot speak to previous TLPs, but I will point out that the forum post in which Prathun mentions that HatePlaneB is released with LDoN (LoY is usually released at the same time as LDoN on TLP) is over three years old. The wiki seems to be incorrect and I don't believe TLPs have used the original PoHate in years.
Regardless, unless there was a second revamp to PoHate, the drop info I listed was for PoHateB.
Edited, Oct 19th 2020 10:10am by Andhrimnir
Yes progression servers use the revamped geometry of Plane of Hate B from launch, however the drops that came with that revamp do not start dropping until LDoN. I'll fix the expansions on the drops and such to show LDoN.
There are a handful of different versions of plane of hate, it sounds like you are getting them mixed up.
TLP servers never get access to the original (P99 classic) plane of hate with the 2 story / staircase layout. most of us old folk remember doing corpse runs in this version. as far as i know that version of plane of hate is only a P99 thing.
TLPs begin with the "new" layout of plane of hate, for TLPs sake we call this plane of hate 1.0 - the entire zone is one level and the port in is safe. this is the version heavily farmed during classic / pre-kunark for the class armor like ethereal mist, rune etched, indicolite, etc. - Maestro drops Evensong, Six Note Blade, etc during this time. the items you posted above (Insidious Halo, Insidious Gloves) also drop during this time.
When velious unlocks, plane of hate 1.0 becomes plane of hate 2.0 because of a small revamp: the 2.0 revamp adds plane of growth equivalent class armor drops for rangers (Armor of the Untamed), druids (Armor of Harmony), and paladins (Righteous Armor). this revamp also adds a special set for Iksar warriors (Legionnaire Scale) which has about the same stats as the Indicolite set, overall it is worse than the thurgadin and growth set. plane of fear also gets a small revamp during velious (cazic gets new ToV equiv loot, his old loot table gets moved to dread/fright/terror). the plane of hate 1.0 items still drop.
Finally, when LDoN unlocks, we get Plane of Hate B with a bunch of new named/rare creatures (see this list) and new loot, the majority of the new loot is recommended level 56 or higher. some items like the Shield of the Immaculate is moved from the Lord of Ire's drop table to an eerie chest.
originally, plane of hate B released in may of 2003, three months after LoY had launched. nowadays TLP servers get the planes of power and legacy of ykesha unlocked together - so on TLP servers the plane of hate B revamp is pushed back a few months to when LDoN unlocks. this is how it transpired on the two servers i played on, phinigel and mangler.
Thank you for the info! This clears up some of the confusion. However, one note: Legionnaire Scale armor dropped on Aradune as soon as Kunark opened.
With that said, where should the information go which pertains to mobs in the Plane of Hate which exists on TLP servers during Classic/Kunark? Plane of Hate, with Plane of Hate 2.0 being the version with the Velious drop tables, and finally Plane of Hate B being the version with the LoY/LDoN drop tables? What can I do to help update the listings for Plane of Hate 2.0 mobs such as this Coercer T`Vala (not to be confused with this Coercer T`Vala), as most of them do not have drops listed with them. Is it simply a matter of running the item collector during a Plane of Hate raid post-Velious unlock?
Thank you for the info! This clears up some of the confusion. However, one note: Legionnaire Scale armor dropped on Aradune as soon as Kunark opened.
With that said, where should the information go which pertains to mobs in the Plane of Hate which exists on TLP servers during Classic/Kunark? Plane of Hate, with Plane of Hate 2.0 being the version with the Velious drop tables, and finally Plane of Hate B being the version with the LoY/LDoN drop tables? What can I do to help update the listings for Plane of Hate 2.0 mobs such as this Coercer T`Vala (not to be confused with this Coercer T`Vala), as most of them do not have drops listed with them. Is it simply a matter of running the item collector during a Plane of Hate raid post-Velious unlock?
If you want to give updates for NPC's, post on the npc page for it. If the npc page doesn't exist for it, post on the zone page and we'll get it added.