the Hand of Veeshan  

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the Hand of Veeshan, on Island 8 in Plane of Sky.

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Spawns immediately following the death of Overseer of Air.

  • Mob sees through invisibility: No

Categories: EverQuest | Templatized
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the Hand of Veeshan
# Jan 27 2019 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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Does not see invis. Level 85 SK harmtouch is enough to one-shot him without getting DT'd.
random spawn experience
# Jul 24 2016 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
Just randomly spawned on Island 7 while we were waiting for Sister of the Spire to spawn.
random spawn experience
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the Hand of Veeshan can sometimes pop over from Isle 8 as he roams, it is very close by to 7.
Efreeti Long Sword
# Jan 03 2016 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
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The Hand of Veeshan dropped Efreeti Long Sword tonight on Ragefire.

Please update.

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Edited, Jan 3rd 2016 7:27pm by lemban
Please add Efreeti Standard to Loot Table
# Jul 04 2013 at 6:48 AM Rating: Decent
Confirmed the date of this post. Safe huntings.
You have no chance to survive
# Jan 11 2013 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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No fair! If you have more than 65000 hp and his DT doesn't kill you, he zaps you twice in a row! I molo'd the whole zone up to him. (100 druid self-buffed to 83000hp, with rogue merc on burn). He aggros you when you approach the pad to the final island. He zone-emotes "{your name}!" and DT's you as many times as necessary to kill you (twice for me) so a sacrificial puller is finally necessary here.
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Respawn...20 minutes +/- return of the DT.
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Item drop AND system of how he works.
# Feb 01 2008 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
He drops Alot of the Efreeti weapons, I did get the mace and BOW off this guy, yes he DT's and eye agros if you are to close when you enage Hand, he is KOS, eye isnt. Hand stays on 8th island with the eye, you can fight the Hand on the back side of 8th Island, Enraged at 10% dose not see invis. He is trigged from killing the overseers on the 4th island dosent matter if the eye is up or going to be up. He gots abit more HP's then Eye, and just abit harder hitting, so take out the eye befor killing overseers for your farming needs. I hope that helps clear up afew things.

Edited, Feb 1st 2008 11:53pm by Falower
Ranger quest item, lost?
# Feb 09 2005 at 2:19 PM Rating: Default
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Looking to find which mob the white gold earring drops from in PoSky. I have not been able to find a diffinative source that tells me which mob drops it. It is for the ranger earring with the insta cast lightning nuke. I am guessing that it is some how linked to the hand of veeshan chain, Nobel on island 2, overseer on island 4 and then this guy on island 8. I am guessing that I might need to turn in the torc of veeshan to this Hand of veeshan in order to spawn the mob that drops this? Dont know but I have the torc of Veeshan and will be heading to fairy island this weekend to try and hand it in. If anyone has ever had the white gold earring drop here, or knows what to do with the torc of veeshan please, please, please post it to let me know. Thanks.
sleeper low-down
# Sep 18 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
It is told, in the legend of an age long past, relayed from generation to generation of the old civilizations, the history of life on Norrath that began with the Dragon God Veeshan. What elements of this recounting are accurate cannot be fully surmized, as there are many versions of the tale, but it is generally accepted throughout the annals of history that the broader themes and aspects are undeniable.

In the beginning of history on Norrath, the Mother Wyrm, Great God Veeshan, marked the land with her talons, creating the three gigantic crevices on the continent Velious that are known as the Scars of Veeshan. By this method, Veeshan claimed Norrath as spawning ground for her kin. Veeshan's first two broodlings on Norrath were a red drakeling, and a white one. Thus, dragonkind were the first inhabitants and the most ancient race of Norrath. It is told that Veeshan left soon afterward to claim other worlds in the same manner, and over the course of the ages lesser gods came to create the other races on Norrath, known to dragons as the "second generations."

There are many accounts in ancient lore of the return of Veeshan to Norrath. It is said, for instance, that Veeshan was responsible for the near extinction of the Iksar race, who set upon Norrath as a scourge and a challenge to the supremecy of the dragons. According to the legend, Veeshan raised a fallen drake from the dead and infused it with an insatiable hatred for the Iksar, then set it loose upon their capitol of Sebilis. The creature's name was Trakanon, deliverer of Veeshan's wrath. Though there have been many accounts by far-travelling adventurers claiming evidence of such tales, their truth can be neither confirmed nor denied. It is uncertain whether Veeshan ever returned to Norrath after spawning dragonkind, or whether or not she takes an active interest in the affairs of dragons on this world.

II. Kildrukaun and The Council of Elders

When Norrath was set upon by the intrusion of the lesser gods, the dragons determined to create a Council of Elders to ensure the supremecy of dragonkind over the younger races of Norrath. While many in the council were content to live seperate from and in peace with this "second generation," they still believed that Norrath belonged rightfully to dragons alone, by the will of Veeshan. Still, there were others who could not suffer peaceful coexistence of any sort, and longed for the destruction or enslavement of the younger races. The history of the Council of Elders is shrouded in secrecy and ancient ritual, and little is known for certain of their order.

What is known, is that at some point in history a drake named Kildrukaun was appointed Arch Priest of Veeshan through divine rite and ceremony. Kildrukaun, though a being of great wisdom and calm heart for regard of his own people, still held a powerful hatred for the second generation, desiring their complete annihilation. His first decree was to condemn the unification of souls between dragons whose elemental influences were of opposition. It was of his belief, and thus the belief of the council, that such a union was against Veeshan's will and would have dire consequences upon the entire dragon nation. As fate would have it, it would be only a matter of time before this decree was broken.

Two young dragons of opposite elemental powers - one of fire, the other of ice - fell in love. They bequested the Council of Elders for permission to mate, and made appeal to Kildrukaun himself. Hearing of their plight, Kildrukaun was quick to dismiss any blessing and forbade them from ever fulfilling their desires. The two dragons were disheartened by the event, but for them the choice was clear - they would defy the wisdom of the council to be together, whatever consequence it might bring.

III. Kerafyrm and Kildrukaun's Prophecy

The two secretly fled to an unknown, isolated corner of Norrath. There, they bound their souls in a sacred union unique to dragonkind, and hatched the first prismatic dragon. They named their hatchling Kerafyrm, which means 'almighty son' in the ancient tongue of the dragons. When knowledge of this event came to the council, the two star crossed lovers were punished by death. Kildrukaun, however, took pity on their child, and came to look upon the prismatic's creation as that of Veeshan's will. Inspired and intrigued by Kerafyrm's existence, yet wary of the consequences, Kildrukaun undertook personal governence of raising the young drakeling. Throughout Karafyrm's childhood and adolescence, Kildrukaun never interacted with the prismatic dragon, but served as the dictator behind his mentors. Eventually, Karafyrm rose to a power unseen within any dragon of his still fledgling age.

During this time, the dragon nation had split into two seperate factions of opposing power - The Ring of Scale, who fled the dragon continent Velious and took up residence in Kunark, and The Claws of Veeshan, the original order and council of dragonkind. It was known that Kildrukaun was furious with the division and he strongly believed that it was Veeshan's will for the dragon nations to reunite once again, lest they become as weak and pitiful as the second generation. Kildrukaun prophesized that Karafyrm would lead The Claws of Veeshan in a great civil war against The Ring of Scale that would reunite the factions and fulfill Veeshan's will. Kerafyrm was known as the Prophetic Savior - a champion of the Claws of Veeshan whose destiny had yet to be filled.

However, the council dismissed Kildrukaun's prophecy, exclaiming that although they must find a way to bring the Ring of Scale back under the wing of the elder council, they could not wage a war and abandon the threat of the giants of Kael Drakkal. Kildrukaun was furious, although he did not confront the council directly. Over the passing centuries, he swayed three of the council elders to his side and personally oversaw Kerafyrm's final stages of growth.

IV. The Sleeper

When he was ready, Kerafyrm quickly ascended through the ranks of the Claws of Veeshan, eventually becoming their most powerful general. He led several successful campaigns against the rising threat of the giants of Kael and his influence grew among the elders of the council. However, something dark grew within him -- his bite became venomous and his talon ruthless in its command over his troops and allies. Eventually, his dominion and influence was nothing short of a monstrous creature of pure malignant hatred and an unrivaled lust for destruction and chaos.

The Council of Elders had no choice but to order Kerafyrm's destruction - a ruling that Kildrukaun was present to hear. Kildrukaun, always tactful and cautious, decieved the council by conding this action. Shortly thereafter, Kildrukaun and the council elders whom the arch priest had managed to sway with his charismatic diplomacy flew to Kerafyrm, where the five of them made preparations for the inevitable war to come.

Although short lived, the war between Kerafyrm's legions and those of the Claws of Veeshan was a near crippling blow to the survival of the elder dragon council upon Velious. Kerafyrm's legions were severely outnumbered by those of the elder council, but time and time again they displayed their awesome strength and power. Eventually, Kerafyrm was restrained and taken to what would be his place of indefinite slumber.

The circumstances of Kerafyrm's defeat and imprisonment are a somewhat vague issue. The story has been relayed differently throughout the ages and depending upon whom you ask. The most famous expression of the story holds that Veeshan returned to Norrath to deal with Kerafyrm herself. Although there is little evidence to suggest that Veeshan ever did return to Norrath, it is conceivable to many scholars that it would have taken the powers of the Goddess to subdue a creature as destructive as Kerafyrm, and if ever she needed a reason to return, this would probably have been it. Still, it is more likely that this legend is the result of mistelling the story through the ages, and references that are interpretted to mean "Veeshan the Goddess" actually mean "The Claws of Veeshan."

In any case, it would have been a magnificient propoganda ploy by the council of The Claws of Veeshan to bring the aspect of divine intervention into this affair. It was, after all, the council who allowed Kerafyrm's continued existence, who were fooled and betrayed by Kildrukaun, and ultimately were responsible for the war and the creation of one of the most destructive and dangerous elements known to Norrath. To relay Kerafyrm's creation as something that was out of their control, and the subject of divine providence and prophecy, would maintain the image of untarnishability that many held in regard to the council.

The most likely scenario is this: The legions of the Claws of Veeshan outnumbered Kerafyrm significantly enough to subdue him, but could not destroy him. Therefore, they placed him in a tomb and held him prisoner with powerful magic, and banished Nagafen and Vox to their respective lairs of Lavastorm and Permafrost. The council appointed four powerful dragons of seperate elemental influence to guard Kerafyrm, and instituted a selective breeding program to produce replacement warders over the ages. Meanwhile, Kildrukaun and the other traitorous elders who had aided Kerafyrm in his war fled Velious to unknown locations, awaiting the return of their master.

Henceforth, Kerafyrm was known as "The Sleeper," and the subject of much secrecy and sacred legend among the dragons.

V. The Awakening

Five hundred years ago, the races of the second generation discovered the dragon continent Velious through brave expedition and conquest. During this time, dragon lore was of extreme interest to scholars of the younger races, and many of dragonkind's most sacred artifacts and hidden histories were stolen through the efforts of adventurers. In their wake, the second generation left careless destruction and wrought terrible havok upon the entire dragon nation, and Norrath itself.

For reasons difficult to understand, the key to the Sleeper's Tomb was revealed to one particular group of powerful, yet foolhardy, individuals. Seeking fame and fortune, they ventured forth into the Tomb, slaying the dragons mercilessly, until finally confronting the four elemental warders themselves. When the warders had been slain, and the four seals broken, Kerafyrm awoke from his slumber with a mighty roar, exclaiming "I AM FREEE!". A tremor of mortal terror shook deep in the souls of his enemies across the land. Kerafyrm, observing his second generation saviors, devoured them whole within moments, and then proceeded to make his way to the outside.

Velious felt Kerafyrm's wrath. Heading straight for Skyshrine, he left a path of destruction and vengeance. Any living creature he encountered along the way was felled effortlessly and ruthlessly. Confronting the council members one by one, Kerafyrm ripped their flesh into shards, annihilating every vestiage of their existence. The wise and ancient dragons of Velious were hardly a challenge for the prismatic, and it is said that with every foe he dispatched his bloodlust became more insatiable, and his wrath more vicious. Living things everywhere fled in terror.

Finally, Kerafyrm came to Lord Yelinak, King of the Dragons in Skyshrine. They battled feriously, and Yelinak bravely defended his honor. However, despite his power and wisdom, Yelinak was no match for Kerafyrm. The battle lasted only a matter of minutes. Yelinak was dead, and Kerafyrm was undaunted.

When Kerafyrm had finished, he paused for not a moment before he flew away to places unknown. Kildrukaun and the other Ancients returned from hiding, taking up guard over the former tomb of their master
RE: sleeper low-down
# Jan 04 2007 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice history,
but,

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The most likely scenario is this: The legions of the Claws of Veeshan outnumbered Kerafyrm significantly enough to subdue him, but could not destroy him. Therefore, they placed him in a tomb and held him prisoner with powerful magic, and banished Nagafen and Vox to their respective lairs of Lavastorm and Permafrost.


Whomever wrote it, has some bits confused.
Sleeper's original parents were put to death.
Nagafen and Vox were banished because they were in love, and wanted to mate, which would result in another like him.

But that was left out of the writing above, making it sound like naggy and vox were the parents.
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# Mar 23 2004 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
Tho I did get some good info about this mob.. I still find that , 90% of the conversation was about Sleeper... Oh well , Got some good info on it.. And I don't deny any of the things said about Sleeper , But I want Official information about him.. I'm tired of seeing the hear say crap on forums and from people in the game.. I have learned that Sleeper is not Naggys and Vox's son... That is plain to me.. Everyone tells me that.. And I'm tired of people saying that he is.. Anyways thnx for the info on both the Hand Of Veeshan , and the Sleeper... Thnx guys/gals !!
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# Mar 23 2004 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
Tho I did get some good info about this mob.. I still find that , 90% of the conversation was about Sleeper... Oh well , Got some good info on it.. And I don't deny any of the things said about Sleeper , But I want Official information about him.. I'm tired of seeing the hear say crap on forums and from people in the game.. I have learned that Sleeper is not Naggys and Vox's son... That is plain to me.. Everyone tells me that.. And I'm tired of people saying that he is.. Anyways thnx for the info on both the Hand Of Veeshan , and the Sleeper... Thnx guys/gals !!
Fighting the Hand
# Jan 30 2004 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
The Hand of Veeshan was an easy battle. He has a huge aggro range so we were able to pull him down to the Drake island from his. We had someone run over to the port dish and eat the Death Touch, then when someone went near the corpse to drag, he jumped off the island and came to us.

The battle lasted seconds. He does Death Touch every 45 seconds but hit's like a sissy.

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Veeshan
# Aug 01 2003 at 2:55 AM Rating: Good
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"Veeshan is the great crystalline dragon who rules the Plane of Sky. She needs no allies but considers Brell Serilis an enemy. Veeshan is known as the Mother of All Wurms and this title includes all of dragonkind such as the drakes and wyverns. When the universe was young, Veeshan traveled throughout the cosmos depositing Her children on worlds She deemed worthy. She would then strike the planet with Her massive claws so that the other deities would know She had laid claim to that world. The continent of Velious on Norrath bears Her mark, known as the Scars of Veeshan."


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#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 09 2002 at 8:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) does anybody know where i can find a picture of the acctual creature Veeshan (id say dragon cuase thats what i think it is but im not sure) if you know where i can fina a pic plz post it
RE: Veeshan
# Apr 29 2002 at 9:25 PM Rating: Default
Heck, if you look at the map....At the Continent of Velious, you'd see that the Scare of veeshan take up half the continent, and anything that can swipe a chunk THAT size out of the planet must be HUGE!!

just my 2 cp

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RE: Veeshan
# Sep 01 2002 at 8:04 PM Rating: Default
has anybody ever seen the hand. Im getting a feeling the hand is a hoax just like the eye of vesheen is. Cuz dam Cobalt Scar is where vesheen scratched her mark and the cracks are huge. If you have the origonal everquest you watch the movie in the begining and Vesheen is like 1/2 the size of norrath. the tip of her claw is prolly biger than FreePort hehe. Say good bye if she gos on a rampage and kills everybody. If she was a real npc what whould her dmg be? Oh I think possibly 200k rofl. AoE hit too =P. I can't believe Bristlebane is against her hes just prolly about the size of cazic or smaller.
RE: Veeshan
# Dec 25 2003 at 12:42 AM Rating: Default
bristlebane is a little bit bigger than a halfling, about say 4 feet tall
RE: Veeshan
# Sep 23 2002 at 2:35 PM Rating: Default
I have not seen it but it is always on track :P
RE: Veeshan
# Apr 29 2002 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
Good luck on that.....If you watch the Movie at the start of EQ, or if you install it and watch it....You'd see that Veeshan is the size of Norrath....and it'd take one helluva big place to put him....i mean....if you sit on the moon and look up....you can somtimes see norrath.....not imagine a dragon that size.....heh

I'd love to see a screen shot of him....but i don't think that's coming for a LOOONG time...

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The Hand
# Feb 27 2002 at 5:44 PM Rating: Excellent
Alright, first off, this isn't actually Veeshan's hand. A hand is a term that is assigned to a person who serves the Ruler, like a kind of assassian. Thus Veeshan's Hand means that this guy is just her uber servant. He goes out and acts on her behalf, doing what she can't do cause she isn't there, bla bla. That's about it, though. The Eye is the same thing, just they are more like spys. Atleast thats what it is historically, might not apply to EQ terms, but that would explain why it is a Djinn rather than a Claw =D

Just tryin to bring a touch of real world history to these boards.

Let the flamings commence =D
RE: The Hand
# May 29 2002 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
then why is there a mob named Eye of Veeshan?
RE: The Hand
# Dec 11 2002 at 1:10 AM Rating: Default
her spy or someone that tells her what's going on? i don't know...
RE: The Hand
# Mar 18 2002 at 3:40 AM Rating: Decent
*cough*
From what I heard
# Dec 29 2001 at 7:39 AM Rating: Default
I have not checked all the post this is just in response on The Sleeper. The Sleeper was born of two dragons of different colors mating and hence the birth of Kerafyrm. This soon caused a war. Many dragons die. Lalala let me skip on. The Law soon became no dragon of opposite colors is to mate. Plus no dragons are allowed to harm each other or some format of that. Nagafen and Lady Vox attempted to mate hence they were banned. No I have no clue how they got into those caves.
RE: From what I heard
# Feb 05 2002 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
Veeshan banished them to never see each other again and put them in seperate caves and she cast Kerafym into the Sleepers tomb, to never be awoken.
RE: From what I heard
# Jul 05 2002 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
kerafym was bred of the two dangerous dragons to society lord nagafen and lady vox after they were told never to breed as dragons.. the sleeper was laid into his tomb never to awaken.. however veeshan didnt do this.. may mistmoore did.. using the powers of the vampire.. he laid the mighty dragon to rest in this tomb.. trakanon still lays south in kunark awaiting revenge on both veeshan's dragons and mistmoore for this.
for he felt he had been betrayed by the dragons for their stupidity and hates the vampires more then anything in the world.
what i want to know.. is if its true what was rumored about kerafym. i heard that when he was first awaken on each server.. only once .. he was let free of the sleepers tomb and flew all through velious causing havoc n killing everything and everyone.. then despawned after awhile. they say this happened.. although i was not around when it did and that it will never happen again.. this true? or this just someone talking to much...
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RE: From what I heard
# Feb 23 2002 at 8:41 PM Rating: Default
A hybird of two dragons hmm how cool, but the sleeper is so badass and vox and naggy aren't. I would like to see Kerafym beat the hell out of Veeshan though.
how do you kill vesheen?
# Dec 08 2001 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
how do you kill vesheen?
RE: how do you kill vesheen?
# Feb 19 2003 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
The easiest way to kill Veeshan is to turn your computer off and delete everquest hehe =)
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also a post from before, Veeshan told all the dragons that they could not reproduce, only the lord mother (veeshan) could. When Vox and Naggy met they did poped out Kerafam (aka. The Sleeper) both Vox and Naggy were banished to their lairs by Veeshan herself never to escape.
When you kill the 4 warders protecting the Sleeper, bad things happen, If you are in EW or SS beware of the chaos that you have never seen before, a multi zone rampage that leaves nothing alive. Im not sure but i think Kerafam melees in the 1100 range with a nasty AoE, and can C-heal herself which is uninteruptable and has a load of HPs, no guild, no server on everquest could take her on. She looks like one of the Crystaline Spiders in Velks or Crystal Caverns that transparent look. Also after you awake her, she vanished from the server, so if you try and take her on you have but one chance.
Take a look at picts at www.afterlifeguild.org some good footage of the rampage

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RE: how do you kill vesheen?
# Mar 23 2002 at 9:07 PM Rating: Default
The thing with that is you probably couldn't find him and if you did he would hit for about 10,000,000,000 damage because he created the great divide and the scars of veeshan with one single swipe of his claw. It would take up a massive amount of space because one of it's claws is about the size of Velious.
RE: how do you kill vesheen?
# Mar 22 2002 at 10:02 PM Rating: Default
Very carefully...
RE: how do you kill vesheen?
# May 16 2002 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
With a stick...
While he slept...
About Veeshan and The Sleeper
# Jun 20 2002 at 11:59 PM Rating: Default
Yes, many of you seem unknowledged of our world history and have probably never read the manual. I will put this whole page of post into one :-)
Well the eye of Veeshan in a way does work like an eye, although it is not part of Veeshan. It is like Veeshan's spy, a servant of Veeshan. The hand does her bidding (Veeshan is Female for those of you who believe it is male, Ewww I'd hate for a WurmQueen to be a guy.), like an assasin as posted earlier. As you may know, it is against Dragon Law for dragons of different colors to mate. The Sleeper, was an offspring of Nagafen and Lady Vox; two different color dragons, and bla bla bla. So the dragons started a war over this and it was all bloody and cool. Bla bla bla, later Veeshan banished Nagafen and Lady Vox to different caves, on opposite sides of Norrath, or I so believe. Dragons of different colors are sopposed to be strong in different areas, so a combination of two colors(The Sleeper, or Kerafrym) would be plain out kick-*** so Veeshan banished it to the Sleepers Tomb, never to wake up. She sent four Warders to guard the Tomb and if any players manage to kill those Warders(They are about level 63 I believe)and they can't manage to eliminate Veeshan then it run around Norrath killing anything it can find then go to attack Veeshan in a all-out, kick *** battle that would be very cool to watch. Only one guild managed to kill it a long time ago, but that was with a glitch. The best legit attack on The Sleeper brought it down to about Half-Health and was then taken down after it wiped out all the clerics. The Tanks went down next and Wizards stayed alive for another minute or so I believe. THE END
RE: About Veeshan and The Sleeper
# Jan 06 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Man your history is wrong.. both Lore and in-game.

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he Sleeper, was an offspring of Nagafen and Lady Vox

No. He was the offspring of two other dragons, who's names I forget now. One's was sentenced to be slain over and over in a trial hall, only to be resurrected and killed again. I forget its name, and I forget the fate of its mate.
Naggy and Vox only planned to do the same thing.

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So the dragons started a war over this and it was all bloody and cool.

There was no war. They divided.

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Veeshan banished Nagafen and Lady Vox to different caves

Veeshan had nothing to do with this. She came, seeded Norrath, and left. She's not even like the the other deites, who look over Norrath. She left. Is gone. No longer around. Not even in the Norrathian Planes.

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Veeshan banished it to the Sleepers Tomb

Dragon kind did this. Again, Veeshan is gone.

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if any players manage to kill those Warders(They are about level 63 I believe)and they can't manage to eliminate Veeshan

The Warders are gaurding The Sleeper, NOT Veeshan.

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go to attack Veeshan in a all-out, kick *** battle that would be very cool to watch

The Sleeper is NO match for Veeshan. He's much smaller than one of the scratch marks Veeshan's claws made while passing through Velious. I'm not even going to get into the Lore problems with this statement.

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Only one guild managed to kill it a long time ago, but that was with a glitch.

There was no glitch. It was on Rallos Zek, and it was three guilds, plus other guests. They exploited. He was not killed; GM despawned him at 2%. He was later killed, without the exploit, two days after by the same set of people (with some new people and some others who were unable to make it, obviously).

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. The best legit attack on The Sleeper brought it down to about Half-Health

Failed attempts on a MOB that's already been slain are hardly notable.

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it wiped out all the clerics. The Tanks went down next and Wizards stayed alive for another minute

Yes, The Sleeper did a /who. He attacked people in order by their class. Its not like he attacked whoever had highest agro or anything.
Look, reality check. The Sleeper slaughtered everyone. As far as I know, most Clerics weren't really there to heal. The tactic that brought down the Sleeper was "Rezzerg".. attacking and rezzing, only to loot the esscentials and attack again.

The orginal slaying of the Sleeper was a Wizard.. with Mana Burn. Besides Mana Burn, the one thing the Wizards really had to contribute were the suicide-DPS pets. And TPs, I imagine.

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RE: About Veeshan and The Sleeper
# Jan 02 2007 at 8:55 PM Rating: Decent
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dozekcar the cursed is kerafyrms father. not naggy. get your lore right people come on
RE: About Veeshan and The Sleeper
# Feb 14 2006 at 2:44 AM Rating: Good
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Even though your right he was killed blah blah blah look at hte post made by the person you are replying to made in like 2002. years before Sleeper was killed. There was no exploit when the GM's despawned sleeper at 2% they didn't want him to die so they came in and despawned him. And the next night after they killed him everyone at the raid was given all their exp back and awarded with aa's for defeating sleeper by the GM's.

years ago someone did happen to do a lot of damage to sleeper becuase they used and exploit in which the post you replied to was refering to not the RZ attempt that happened years after he made his post.
RE: About Veeshan and The Sleeper
# Aug 17 2003 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
24 posts
Veeshan marked Norrath then flew on. She did this to a lot of planets and is no longer on Norrath. I think that is quite evident in that she has servants keeping watch for her in the Plane of Sky and was nowhere in the Planes of Power. The law of 2 different dragons being forbidden to mate was not made by Veeshan herself, but by one of the anicents who now inhabit Kerafrym's lair awaiting his return. The parent's of Kerafrym are never revealed and there is no lore dictating what happened to them. ( Although in Dragon Necropolis there 2 dragon skeletons strangely intwined with each other. ) After this birthing took place, the elder who created the law took back his words and pronounced the baby to be called Kerafrym, or savior. This caused great turmoil among the dragons and they were split into 2 factions Claws of Veeshan and Ring of Scale. As Kerafrym grew, he became a general in the great Claws of Veeshan military, but his bloodlust was great and his hatred grew to include even dragonkind. Fearing that he would get out of control, the ancients took magical steps to keep Kerafrym in check. It is because of these steps that the Ring of Scale was able to get the attention of Mayong Mistmoor the betrayer who together with Trakanon's failing powers managed to rest the great beast back to sleep in his lair. The 4 most powerful elemental dragons were set to watch over the slumbering dragon in an attempt to keep him from being awakened.

Lady Vox and Naggafin are young dragons, still. Greedy and seeking powerful, they sought to breed to create another Prismatic dragon, but when the current leader of the Ring of Scale found out, he had them both sealed away, and their riches stripped from them. The lovers await secretly for Kerafrym's return so that they can be reunited and breed an army to throw down all of the races of Norrath and the Dragons who imprisoned them.

Trakanon is not really a dragon. This is hinted at in The Story of Edril when he tells Edril he was before Veeshan came. It is the belief of some that Trakanon is the embodiment of the dying planet who awaits the coming of a fourth warrior in a last effort to save himself from extinction.


(This is in part becaus it was Luclin who sent bad dreams to Grieg and drove him mad. If the moon is alive, why can't the planet be? And if that is so, what better form to imitate to have influence than that of a dragon?)
Hand of Veshaan DEAD
# Nov 26 2001 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
Hand of Veshaan was killed today, first time on Bertoxx server, by Omani.

Go to http://www.omaniguild.com for pics, etc.

He was red to me at 60, so he's 63 or higher. He DTs every 30 seconds and hits HARD.

Tets (aka Tetas)
Level 60 High Priestess
Omani Guild
Bertoxx Server
Not Nag and Vox
# Nov 08 2001 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
Nah, Kerafyrm is Veeshan's son. He was the first dragon made, but Veeshan figured it was bad to have a dragon that could beat down a god, so she locked him up and put him to sleep, charging 4 Dragons (The Warders) to protect the place
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 28 2002 at 10:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HAHAHA dude listen...
RE: Not Nag and Vox
# Jan 28 2002 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
No, it was another pair of mismatched colored dragons that produced the sleeper. Veeshan then made it law that no dragons of different colors could mate, Vox and Naggy tried to break this law, but were discovered and banished to thier current lairs. Story can be found here: http://pub101.ezboard.com/freigninpowerfrm2.showMessage?topicID=49.topic
RE: Not Nag and Vox
# Dec 16 2003 at 4:43 AM Rating: Default
This is the correct. After Kerafyrm was born and improned, Nagafen and Vox tried to mate and create a 2nd dragon of this power (they thought they could control him if they did), but were found out and seperated
RE: Not Nag and Vox
# Feb 05 2002 at 4:54 PM Rating: Default
Veeshan made it dragon law that dragons are not to mate, but Nag (red dragon) and Vox (white dragon) mated and had Kerafym (pink dragon)

Veeshan still remains the bad *** dragon though, she would wipe Kerafyms *** in a second, its a shame that Verant can never put Veeshan in the game lol.
RE: Not Nag and Vox
# Jul 05 2002 at 7:39 AM Rating: Default
Yeah, i real heart-breaker, we cant fight something that would kill us all in oune hit =D
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 23 2001 at 10:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No, you dumbass. Vox and Nagafen were the dragons that birthed the Sleeper..
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 15 2001 at 7:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Veeshan and another dragon(damn i forgot his name) did the wild thing and thats how the Sleeper whas born.
RE: Sleeper is related to Veeshan
# Oct 13 2001 at 10:41 AM Rating: Default
Actually your wrong. It was Nagafen & Vox, not Veeshan
RE: Sleeper is related to Veeshan
# Nov 17 2001 at 3:42 AM Rating: Decent
It wasnt Nagafen and Vox you tard...it was made a rule that no 2 dragons of different colors could mate after the sleeper was born...so when naggy and vox tried they were banished
Dealing with both at once
# Apr 24 2001 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
Neither mob up on isle 8 sees inviso. Handle isle 8 like you would Azarack Isle. Get everyone invisible, portal up to 8, and run behind the windmill. Wait for everyone to get there, wait for Hand to path to the back of the windmill, and aggro him with a non-essential class (take your pick) to eat the DT. Pull him back to the group with another person and proceed to beat the snot out of him. He hits hard and stuff, but he's definately killable.

From there, you won't aggro the Eye, and even if you do, the Eye won't do anything other than DT every 45 seconds. These are my observations from this past weekend.

Gazamel Prime
56 Gnome Myrmidon <Looking Glass>
Ayonae Ro
Strategy for Hand and Eye Togehter?
# Apr 15 2001 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
Thats very philosophical and all but how about some useful information. Does anyone know a good strategy for taking down the Hand and Eye of Veeshan when they are both up together? Out biggest problem was that with both of them deathtouching every 10 seconds or so they thinned the ranks of our attack force in an awful big hurry. Is there any way to do this aside from throwing the '100 newb charge' at them? (aka with like 30-40 people instead of like 50-60. Couldnt find a way that would work to pull hand to drake isle. Any way to rapture/dictate or perhaps park or fight one far enough from the other that it wont join in? Any information from people who have actually fought both together and won would be appriciated.

-- Isamusamusamu
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