an undead foreman  

Quest NPC

Uploaded July 24th, 2007

You must have high faction standing with Venril Sathir to do the turn-in.

  • Type: Undead
  • This mob spawns at 2390, 3308 which is to the SW inside the outpost in The Overthere.
  • Respawn Timer: 5 minutes
  • Mob sees through invisibility: Yes

This page last modified 2019-01-11 11:14:10.

Level: 50
Expansion: Ruins of Kunark
NPC Added: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
NPC Last Updated: 2019-01-11 03:14:47
Known Loot:
icon Leather Whip

Known Habitats:
  The Overthere
Factions Decreased:
  Venril Sathir -50
  The New Worker

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an undead foreman faction
# Jan 09 2019 at 11:48 PM Rating: Excellent
1,166 posts
an undead foreman
faction: Venril Sathir -50
respawn time: 5 minutes
location: 2390, 3308 which is to the SW inside the outpost in The Overthere
Undead, so it sees through regular invis.

Edited, Jan 10th 2019 1:02am by nytmare
Charm still workin
# Sep 14 2009 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
24 posts
I just did this with my beastlord.I shrouded down to a lvl 5 garg wiz.I got like 3 clarity pots and had my druid DS me. I went to FoB to the spider I began slaughtering them. the spiders spawn every 10 seconds it seems so it was perfect spot to lvl up. killed here for bout 45min until i unlocked the evileye. got evil eye cast charm on him, charm landed first time handed in jade recieved hammer then gated bck to PoK b4 charm broke. Then i did it on 71 bard his charm wouldnt land for some reason so i resist debuffed em charmed handed in jade and thronded out b4 charm broke.. just lettin ya kno charm trick still works since last post was a year ago
# Sep 18 2008 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
I recently came back to EQ after a two year long hiatus, (75 SK, mostly anguish gear) and i did the OT hammer quest before with the braids. After that I killed those golems when i was bored, eventually i got maxx KoS and couldnt run by without being attacked.

One day smithing i had a lot of different hammers because i was tinkering as well, well i destroyed the OT hammer by accident, but later i decided to quit so never bothered getting it again.

Well when i came back i decided i wanted it again, so started looking for ways to gain faction, mainly because i didnt want to do the whole charm thing, its a clever way of doing it, but i hate playing shrouds.

So i got bored reading here on alla's and started exploring a bit. I had read that a lot of zones that needed keys were now open, so i went to VP as i had never been in there before, just to see if i could kill a few dragons, just out of boredom. After a couple I looked at the faction hits, I was getting good faction for VS. So i figured wth, might as well stay awhile and see if it was good enough to get the faction i needed. Later a friend of mine sent me a tell asking if i wanted to do anything and I suggested she come get faction for an OT hammer, just for the sake of having it, (she was an 80 cleric)She decided to get faction for her hubby's pally and we went thru about 40 or so mobs, 1 named, most didnt hit very hard, 250ish - 400, took about an hour, by then i read in faction that my faction with VS could not possibly get any better.

We gated out and ran back to OT and sure i enough i was maxx ally (gnome sk, her hubby was warmly (human pally), and she was indifferent (high elf cleric), so me and the pally both got the hammer after turn in.

This is what i think is a good alternative to the braids and shrouds, i did the braids before and it took me days to collect enough, it was worth it when i was lvl 60, but if your high enough to solo or group in VP i'd definately do that if you dont like level'ing shrouds or gathering braids like me :D
Evil eye shroud works
# Mar 17 2007 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
429 posts
I just did this quest about a week ago after leveling my wizard shroud to unlock evil eye. As a level 70 EE chanty, the charm landed on the first try.

A word of advice, if you are KOS in OT, you got about 15 seconds from when the charm lands on the npc until the goons get all over you. You can safely skip the dialogs and just hand in a jade to get the hammer. Then run really fast
Bard charmed @ lv55.
# Nov 09 2006 at 10:51 PM Rating: Good
451 posts
Charmed the foreman at lv55 on bard alt. Twisted Occlusion of sound + charm until it landed (mebbe 5 casts). Had Selo's on for runspeed safety. Much easier than wasting puppet strings for non-charm class :)
Try Shrouded.
# Jun 14 2006 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
196 posts
I heard if your shrouded as an evil eye you can turn in the gem I'm current working on it but you might want to try it as a 50TH lvl evil eye or you might die. I tried as a 35 evil eye and was killed easy. Good luck and this beats killing 90 million berskers.
Kill Information
# Jan 14 2006 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
115 posts
I submitted this information via the "Click Here to report a correction" link a couple days ago, but in the mean time, I figured I could post this here, too.

My wife and I killed him a couple days ago just for the fun of it, and he dropped a leather whip and about 7pp in cash and gave no faction hits, despite his affiliation with Venril Sathir.
puppet strings
# Jan 11 2006 at 12:41 PM Rating: Default
i am a level 70 monk and just did this quest.. i bought puppet strings and charmed him.. quickly gave him a Jade before charm broke and he gave the Jade back .. wouldnt take it.. so i am wondering if this quest still works using the puppet strings.. i did everything according to the way others have done it and it just didnt work
RE: puppet strings
# Jan 13 2006 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
115 posts
I did this on the 10th, which was only one day before you tried it, and it worked fine once I was able to land the charm. Since there was no patch between our attempts, I don't see why it wouldn't have worked.

Are you sure the charm stuck? He's VERY magic resistant. Assuming you're KOS to him (and if you aren't, using Puppet Strings wasn't really necessary as you could just improve the faction with sarnak war braids), you shouldn't even have been able to initiate a trade with him at all...
got it
# Jan 22 2005 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
I just got this and tested it. The spot it teleports you is safe(as far as I can tell). I am an agnostic erudite who is "threatening" in there and the skeleton on the boat you port to was indifferent to me.
# Sep 03 2004 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
Just did the quest using puppet strings.. worked fine.
# May 26 2004 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
As of today, charming him no longer works for the turn in. I charmed him with Enslave Death, ranger friend tried the turn in..."Bah!! I will not work with one who has yet to prove his allegiance to Venril Sathir" was what he got.
RE: Fixed
# Jun 11 2004 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
The Charmer is the only person who can do the turn in. When you charm an NPC they become amiable to you but indifferent to your party members.
Necro's can charm him
# Apr 15 2004 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
I am a 53 necro and I used cojole undead to charm him and get my sledgehammer. Took about 5 trys but it worked long enough for me to get the hammer and FD.

The hammer to proc so it probably isn't good for a emergency situation. But to do some banking and stuff it is great.

The port in location doesn't seem very unsafe if you just put up invis vs. undead once you get there.
# Jan 19 2004 at 12:02 AM Rating: Default
Yeah just throwing out necro can charm this guy too, just charmed him and did turn in. He resisted thrall of bones, but the higher level only 30 second necro charm worked fine. yay for charm turn ins
Charming Resists
# Jan 02 2004 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
Much easier to use unresistable level 60 charm. works long enough to turn in and gate =). Cant wait to use my hammer...

63 enchantress Tallon Zek
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RE: Cheap, East, Fast.
# Oct 27 2004 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
I tried the Essence of Dark Elf and was still apprehensive. Don't waste your money.
RE: Cheap, East, Fast.
# Oct 29 2004 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
I think you missed the point of his post. You need both items not just the illusion. Illusion is just to sneak you in the door. The other item is to make him cough up the goods.
# Oct 31 2003 at 6:55 PM Rating: Default
Can he be charmed or mezzed, then given the jade to recieve the Mallet? Or is Factioning the only way. Would really appreciate it. Thanks =)
RE: Questions
# Nov 19 2003 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
24 posts
I did this a few minutes ago with a 65 chanter that is VERY kos in the outpost after multiple VSR and VS kills. The foreman is very magic resistant but tash took care of that nicely. Used my best slow on him to make him hit less then used CoD to charm him. Gave him a jade and received the hammer.

However, a SK with me that was NOT kos but did not have good faction either did not receive the hammer when giving the jade. It seems the foreman may need amiable faction to give the hammer but I don't know the minimum faction is to get it. I know apprehensive is not good enough faction though.

We tried several variations of sneaking, illusions, and invis to get him to give the hammer without success. Only person to actually get the hammer was the chanter that was kos but had charm.
RE: Questions
# Oct 10 2004 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
1,267 posts
The foreman has to con amiable or better. Indifferent isn't good enough
# Sep 04 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
Anyone able to tell me what the exact location of this mob is?
RE: Location
# Feb 09 2004 at 9:59 AM Rating: Default
Go inside the south gate, turn left. He's down near the boat that's under construction, against the south wall.

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Getting better faction with this thing
# Aug 06 2002 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
What do I have to do to get better faction with this foreman? I'm curently apprehensive to it.
RE: Getting better faction with this thing
# Dec 30 2002 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
You have to turn in sarnak beserker braids to Captain Rottgrime. This is the only way to raise your Venril Sathir faction, which is the faction that all the dudes who hang out there are on. You need to turn in 4 braids at a time, but I always turn them in one at a time cause sometimes peeps have already turned in two or three so you can MQ it by accident/purpose if your lucky. Oh and as a DE I went from apprehensive to amiable with approx. 15-20 sets, so it does take some time to track all those beserkers down. Hope that helps.
Any xp from this?
# Jul 30 2002 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
Do we receive any experience from giving this creature the jade? or do we just receive the weapon?
You need faction boost
# Jul 26 2002 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
Jawnimus, you need either amiable faction or chanter/bard help you out with faction boost.
either you are human or iksar are KOS in outpost I think so u can't do the berzerker braid quest.
# Jul 09 2002 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
im a lvl 30 Monk need a port item could i buy a jade sneak up behind and hand him the jade??? seems good in theory but would it work PLz help b4 i do something stupid:P
Just A Jade?
# Jun 22 2002 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
All you have to turn in is a jade to this dude and you get the Mallet?
# May 29 2002 at 6:48 PM Rating: Default
I really appreciated this section for helping me in this quest. I used to hunt inside KC all the time. Can;t tell you how many Skellys i killed but it was tons!! Anyway, being a troll Warrior i still had a trashed dubious faction in OT. I estimated handing in about 35 sets(140 braids!) just to get from Dubious to apprehensive. I am guessing i am half way to indifferent right now so another 20 sets or so and i should be done. Getting to Apprehensive was the real hard part for me
what the?
# Mar 27 2002 at 10:07 AM Rating: Default
Doesn't this guy have loot? i want to see if he,s worth killin. Does he drop that whip?
# Jan 26 2002 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
Where does this mallet port u to? would a human enchanter whos faction is completly ruined with VS port to OT with this safely? will the proc port me to a safe spot?
RE: Where
# Apr 22 2002 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
No, it's not technicly safe. The single skeleton worker that aggros is quite green and a fairly small problem. If you don't want to just kill him, you can easily root him, run off the boat without aggroing anything else, invis yourself and run out. It really poses no threat if you're high enough level to charm the foreman and get your hammer. Most likely if you have been told it's a major issue and not worth it, the characters who told you as much are pretty low level.
RE: Where
# Apr 10 2002 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent

Ports to a boat on the shore of the OT. No, you can not port in safely. No, the port spot is not safe. There is a skeleton there that hits for 58 or so.
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