Tani N`Mar [ Rogue Guildmaster ]  

Rogue Guildmaster
Tani N'Mar (new model)

Uploaded June 7th, 2014 by Brightwings
Updated June 9th, 2014

This page last modified 2009-01-10 09:06:07.

Level: 45
Expansion: Original
NPC Added: 0000-00-00 00:00:00
NPC Last Updated: 2021-02-12 03:04:31

Known Habitats:
  Neriak Third Gate
Factions Increased:
  Wolves of the North +206
  Carson McCabe +206
  Guards of Qeynos +41
  Guardians of the Vale +82
Factions Decreased:
  Ebon Mask -825

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Patch - February 17, 2021
# Feb 17 2021 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
363 posts
Rogue Epic changes:
- Eldreth will now return after leaving for 1 hour rather than 8. He can no longer be killed by miscreants.
- Founy Jestands and Tani N'Mar will no longer have any parchment on their corpses if killed. They will, however, always have them in their pockets if someone happens to be clever enough to take them.
- Renux Herkanor will no longer carry a Jagged Diamond Dagger.
- General V'ghera will no longer carry a Cazic Quill.
- Karg IceBear will be a bit easier to find and will be carrying the Gigantic Zweihander more often.
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Excellent Halas Faction
# Aug 22 2016 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
This guy gives excellent Halas faction with the Wolves of the North. He respawns instantly and is an easy kill for a 105. Not many adds, if any at all if you pull him to the hallway. In about 15 minutes I had achieved all the faction I could with Wolves of the North.

If you are a race that cons Scowling to Halas residents, killing this guy is THE way to change that!

Lord Palamus Holyblade
80th Soldier of Mithaniel Marr
Ex Commander
Knights of the Holy Blade
Picking the note
# Feb 24 2015 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
131 posts
This is a 2015 summary of how it went for me, hope it helps:

Went in with DE illusion (Barbarian rogue) and he conned amiable to me so i went through the text with him. I thought maybe the text would put the note in his inventory but it did not. Evidently, either he spawns with it or not. I used only sneak stood behind him on the stairs and picked away. After picking him clean of all of his coins i then got a number of unsuccessful picks. So I waited for him to despawn which was at 7pm and he spawned again immediately - basically he flickers and you no longer have him targeted - its that fast. Proceeded to pick all of his coins again with no note. Tried the text again to see if it puts the note in his inventory with no luck. At this point I didnt want to wait another 72 minutes for him to respawn so I logged out.

Returned the next day and picked him clean of coins (which is usually around 4p, 9g, 4s, 4c). I also received Nitilim's Grimoire Pg 35 which at first I thought was the note I needed - what a let down. During all of this "I have become better at Pick Pockets (289)" so it wasnt a complete waste of time. Waited until 7pm...

Attempt #4 - coins, another Grimoire Pg. 300, no note.

Servers down for updates

Attempt #5 - Logged in as soon as servers were back up. Picked all of this coins - nothing else on him. 20 unsuccessful tries after that. Waited until 7pm... again.

Attempt #6 - Got caught for the first time on my first try. It surprised me, but nobody assisted him all the way to the zone line. Went back and picked most of his coins and a leather roll and got caught again! I did about 30k dmg in ripostes while picking him during the fight and he dropped to 98% or so. He was hitting me for around 100 max - pretty wimpy for a guildmaster, but I am 94 and just going after the HIE mask.

Attempt #7 - Stole a bunch of coins, got caught before I could get them all... blah blah blah.... bored of this ritual by now so I prance him all around the zone pickpocketing him the whole time. Guards wont help him, vendors wont help him, we both stayed at 98% health, and he kept summoning me, like that would help. I am sure he was the talk of the town in Neriak after that episode. It was quite embarrasing for him. Still no note.

Attempt #8 - Ok, obviously this guy is bringing the wrong man purse to work every day. He must have left the note in his fanny pack in his mom's basement. I cleaned him out of coins again and one Tears of Prexus. He chose not to agro me this time around after that gossip-inducing display of sissyness during our last confrontation. Yaz Tolax and Vivish S'Lon who are standing there next to him could barely keep the giggles to themselves while I pickpocketed him 25 times. No note.

Attempt #9 - Nien Nien Nien Nien Nien!!!! Nien Note!

Attempt #10 - I'm bored, too much time on this note. I believe they gave him 2,000,000 health because at level 94 my rogue can riposte an assassinate crit for 750k. It would really suck to get caught, crit kill him with one riposte and take a -850 faction hit. I also believe that the long camp to pick the 2 notes evens out how long some of the other mask camps can be. Halfling mask took me 20 hours. Vah Shir took 6 hours.

Attempt #11 - Finally got the note!!! It was on about the 10th or 11th pick try after most of the coins were gone.

Good luck to anyone doing this part of the quest, and I hope my ramblings above help out.

Edited, Feb 25th 2015 10:35pm by Stageguy
Faction hits
# Oct 10 2014 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
17 posts
Here are the faction hits for killing him, as of today:

[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Your faction standing with Ebon Mask has been adjusted by -825.
[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by 41.
[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Your faction standing with Wolves of the North has been adjusted by 206.
[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Your faction standing with Guardians of the Vale has been adjusted by 82.
[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by 206.
[Fri Oct 10 15:03:08 2014] Tani N`Mar's corpse says 'The Dead shall avenge my death!'

This dropped my rogue to scowling.
# May 09 2013 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
Not sure if anyone's tried this or not - didn't really skim through the comments on Tani yet - but just got attacked by him for a moment.

Well, what I did was backed up a little and hit escape, hide and sneak. It seemed to work, so I'm gonna go do it again shortly when my 2 1/2 mins are up (i did my hastened escape aa's already to, to reduce reuse timer)

In other words, I did not have to run out the zone from Tani (thank God... Too far for a freakin Zone Line, damn it!), I just used Escape Hide and Sneak and it worked fine.
able to pick with 85 PP
# Jan 03 2013 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
1 post
I was able to pick the piece with a skill of 85, and it wouldn't surprise me if skill is irrelevant (except for actual success/fail of the PP attempt).
# Dec 03 2011 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
Parsed at 2 million hp, only dropped 2 Short Swords. Meh.
# Jan 30 2011 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
551 posts
Kelandi -vs- Tani N`Mar in 189 seconds:
DMG: 1,992,909
DPS: 10,544
Attempts: 997
Hits: 997
Accuracy: 100%
Avg Hit: 1,998
Max hit: 91,392
DMG to PC: 596

Edited, Jan 30th 2011 1:26pm by Zaztik
# Oct 26 2010 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
Despawns around 7pm and respawns around 9pm in game time
Take time
# Jun 09 2010 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
To PP Tani takes time. I was on this for 3 days realy anoying, and I did not feel for killing this npc whit loads of hp alone.
Its right the others in the guild do not help him but the guards outside do. Make sure you have eather the illutionmask for dark elf or illutions potions, then you can PP him and run in zone but some guards aggros if you do not sneak and hide.
HP if you're gonna kill him
# Apr 02 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
Parsed him at roughly 2 million HP, so if you're going to kill him to get him to re-spawn.. either bring some more DPS along or be prepared to AFK while meleeing him for about 20-30 min :P
# Mar 15 2010 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
770 posts
Instead of waiting for his usual once-a-gameday automatic respawn, kill him and he repops immediately. Although his normal respawn is 72 minutes, I was killing him about every 15 minutes. So, the 6 spawns it took to turn up one with a parchment cost me about 90 minutes total instead of 7+ hours.
# Oct 13 2009 at 3:20 AM Rating: Decent
123 posts
His Faction when killed was Ebon Mask not Hall of the ebon Mask. Also this mob has around 750k hp or more. Left my 76 ranger semi afk while i played Call of Duty. Fight took 45 minutes straight melee and had maybe 15 to 20 Fatal Blows from Hail of Arrows.
killed him for fun
# Jan 10 2009 at 2:02 AM Rating: Decent
Was doing this quest to get the general to spawn for the high elf mask, after you try to pickpocket and are unsuccessful. Realized if i killed him he might re pop. Pulled him to the zone in and had a ranger with 11/13 headshot aa. I counted over 22 performs a FATAL BOW SHOT. which registered for 65k a pop. then all the melee damage on top of that. Finally killed him after about a 10 min fight. And he instantly respawned.

Edited, Jan 10th 2009 5:03am by Xeilen
Can no longer Pick Pocket through the roof
# Jan 26 2008 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
Trying to P-P through the roof no longer works. Once I figured it out, it was very easy, got on my 11th try. Just use your Mask of Deception and walk right up behind him.
# Oct 21 2007 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
Had a 65 ranger beat on this guy for a few thousand damage. HP bar didn't leave 100%. That's just wrong.
# Jun 17 2007 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
Got my parchment June 17th, 4th spawn 2nd pick. Kept switching between Foury and him.
Good luck there guys. It seems to be completely random drop.

Edited, Jun 17th 2007 8:46pm by rogerbb
there's really no easy way to go
# Dec 29 2006 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
At first I used necro baby pet to pull to zone line.. then after consulting general chat, I got brave and with only 187 skill on my 55 WE rogue, I just got behind him, hit sneak and pped for about 25 tries, and it added three to my skill

and bam there's the parchment...

much easier than founy, though I know it's not always so.

Ive been going to these boards every day for the last 3 days trying to find some secret or easier way to get it.. really its just a matter of him spawning with it and luck.. founy took 3 days and 8 total hours for me to get.
No, no more!
# Nov 18 2006 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
easily the most difficult part of the epic, I've been doing this for hours and hours, got him bugged for about 2 hours and played gems til he respawned becuase he kept warping and I couldn't pick him. I think I'm going to have to get a few friends to stand around him and pickpocket him til one of us gets it, this is impossible
Currently not getting an pp from him
# Jul 05 2006 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
Was wondering if something broke as I am not getting any coin whatsoever from him, even after he repops. On the 5th repop so far.
Currently not getting an pp from him
# Jul 06 2006 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
Eh it was right there in front of my face, and yet I did not see it. Tani now con's even at level 70, meaning nobody can pick them. I'm sure a fix will be in soon. Apparently the dwarf rogue gm is in the same state.
Spawn time
# Apr 12 2006 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
His spawn time is at 7 PM game time, just sat here and saw him pop at 7 pm not am.
Spawn time
# Feb 05 2007 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
He despawned at 7 pm Game time.

And repopped at 8 pm Game time.
RE: Spawn time
# Apr 19 2006 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
Confirmed 7pm game time. Seems to instantly respawn also.
# Mar 23 2006 at 6:21 PM Rating: Default
Pulled him out into the open area just outside the Rogue building...kited with my bard til he was at a good spot then faded...guards left and he stayed of course. so I pulled him into the NE corner and let him beat me while rogue pp'd.

I have to heal like once every 5 min or so, so it snp to do it this way. GL landing a slow or mez lol. He Is mezzable but extremly high resists. I bard debuffed and tried several times. No go.

30+ pp's and no note. Safe to say he doesnt have it this time lol
pulling to zone...
# Feb 23 2006 at 4:40 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
kind of another strat on this issue... if you dont have your pick pocket skill up high enough and you keep aggroing him try this...

I used my 70 cleric to pull him to zone... zoned cleric to clear other aggro... zoned back in and used bash to get good aggro... then I let my rogue sit there and pick him clean without getting aggro and got some good skillups... still working on the parchment though didnt have it on him... heals and bash hold aggro really good just fyi

Good luck
Shotznow - 85 Warrior of Xegony
Easy pickin's
# Jan 03 2006 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
Just started this quest and I came here for info. Used my handy dandy mask o deception, walked up to ye ol Tani, picked him 5 times, walked away with the parchment. No agro, no problems just straight up 5 finger disco.
Necro pulling
# Jun 22 2004 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
Been trying to pick this guys pocket for several weeks now on and off..
Seems like he can't be pulled to the zone by a lvl 1 necro anymore. one of his thugs chases the necro and kills him while tani stays in the guild. this makes picking his pocket much more dangerous now.
thanks sony for fixing this.
RE: Necro pulling
# Mar 26 2005 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
Still works
RE: Necro pulling
# Oct 05 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
As of Oct. 5th 2004 he can still be pulled to zone using the neco pet trick. Just spent a few hours doing it. 2 full eq day spawns and no luck yet. Hope this helps
RE: Necro pulling
# Sep 18 2004 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
Not sure if necro pulling works or not like jriggi says, but I know for a fact that getting caught and running for the zone will still pull him to zone line and he will stay there until next spawn cycle. I just did this on my 52 DE rogue. Made it to zone line with 39% health (that was with FoS and Virt on). Went back in and he was all alone. PP'ed him dry and still nothing. Been trying off and on for several weeks with no luck yet. This was the first time I had ever been caught doing it, somehow I managed to avoid all guards and only had Tani and 1 other rogue following me. I would really suggest anyone try this mythod since I got pretty lucky, but at least he will move to zone line this way.
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