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Shadowy Assassin Sash  

DEX: +5 STA: +5
Haste: +26%
WT: 0.2 Size: TINY
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Merchant Value:200 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-12-10 00:04:00
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Shadows of Luclin Item

Average Price: 800pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 55

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Drops: This item is found on creatures.

Umbral Plains

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Uploaded November 27th, 2008
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# May 16 2005 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
you got to be nuts 9000pp for 15% haste ?
lvl limit?
# Sep 10 2003 at 10:22 PM Rating: Default
Hi all...

I realize that the item is worn for the effect... but is there a certain lvl before the item will work? Or could quite literally a lvl 1 use it?

RE: lvl limit?
# Nov 07 2003 at 1:34 AM Rating: Decent
243 posts
The Haste on this belt will work from lev 1 but it gose for a nice 1.5k on Veeshan anyway price might have droped a bit since LDoN's release...
Great back on topic
# May 22 2003 at 3:20 PM Rating: Default
243 posts

Edited, Wed Nov 12 18:40:23 2003
SAS vs. SBoC
# Jan 31 2003 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
Which would you wear: SBoC or SAS? Is the difference of 5% haste worth losing 10 AC? A curious 53 Ranger wants to know!
RE: SAS vs. SBoC
# Feb 01 2003 at 5:32 AM Rating: Default
45 posts
I would wear a Shadowy Assassin Sash without any hesitation. 5% haste is most certainly worth losing 10ac.
RE: SAS vs. SBoC
# Feb 01 2003 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good
I agree with him, 10 ac ant' that much and a buff or 2 will make of for that
Shadowy Assassin
# Oct 10 2002 at 5:38 AM Rating: Default
104 posts
There are a LOT of Dark Assassins in Umbral. I've come to believe that not all of them are capable of being the PH for this guy. Roughly speaking, I believe there to be 3 "groups" of DAs in zone.

One group paths more or less to the edges of the zone ... one such DA comes almost up to the ZI, another very close to the Druid Corner ... a third goes almost up to the Netherbian Swarmlord cave. I have never seen the SA in that position.

A second group paths about the middle of the zone, occassionally stopping to take a position in a loose ring around the Dark Master platform. I have never seen the SA in that position.

The third group shuffles about the center, open area of the zone. These look a lot like the second group, but wander a bit further out and never get in formation. This is the only place I have ever seen the SA spawn.

If anyone wants to sit around out there and watch these guys, I'd be curious to see if this does hold true.
RE: Shadowy Assassin
# Jul 02 2003 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
I pulled one from very close to the ME zone in (wanderer that comes in close to the ent tunnel), so I'd have to guess it's a random spawn in any of the DA spots
RE: Shadowy Assassin
# Jan 20 2003 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
Had this guy spawn when group was waitin for mini raid peeps to get there and I was out pullin. He spawned outta thin air just to the left of tunnel going into the plains and was headin strait out after spawning. He dropped the cape for us. Spawn point was kinda out in front of the rock area on left side. Hope this helps. I think hes a random spawn myself though.
# Jun 03 2002 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
back to pickpocketing.. not sure what the limits to it are but at lvl 52 i have pickpocketed mobs that even con to me. dont know if cause skill is maxed or maybe things have changed.. just a little something for the know-it-alls to think about
RE: hmm
# Oct 09 2002 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
69 posts
I happen to agree. Its kinda nice sometimes to have pickpocket set with your evade keys and grab plat or a BD/ruby crown etc off An Iksar Trustee Minimum Level: 57 Maximum Level:57 or simular level mob. Kinda blows the 5 levels lower out of the water.

Fineskin ~ Assassin ~ CT
# Jun 01 2002 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
what do you guys think? this verses the sash of dragonborn??? that has ac, but only 2ac, pretty measly if ya ask me, this has 5dex and 5sta...bit higher numbers...
# Oct 10 2002 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
105 posts
This has 26% haste. SotDB has 24%, but all/all. SAS is better for the classes listed.
Haste argument
# May 28 2002 at 2:42 AM Rating: Excellent
I assure you that I take no credit for this post whatsoever but it made alot of sense to me and can be found on Sash of dragonborn discussion. I cut and pasted it here.. Hope it helps:

You all are confusing haste and delay reduction. Think about it.

The defintion of haste is "the number of extra swings in during some period of time". 20% haste means I am going to get 120 swings instead of 100 swings during some period of time.

Now, in order to get those extra 20 swings in, my weapon obviously has to be swinging faster. The effective delay on my weapon must decrease. By how much?

Lets say I have a 10 delay weapon. That is 1 swing every second. So, during 100 secs, I swing 100 times. For the sake of clarity, assume I have 100% haste. So, during that same 100 seconds, I am now swinging 200 times. What delay would I need on my weapon in order to do this?

200 swings * X delay = 100 secs
X delay = 100/200 = 0.5

My effective delay is now 5, instead of 10. My effective delay reduction is 50%. 10 * 50% = 5

More precisely, Delay Reduction = 1.0-1.0/(1+Haste)

Take an FBSS. It is 21% haste. So...

Delay Reduction = 1-1/(1+0.21)
= 1-1/1.21
= 1-0.82644
= 0.17356
= 17.356%

So, for FBSS, 21% Haste = 17% delay reduction.

You also need to be careful when adding hastes. Hastes are additive. Delay reductions ARE NOT. If I want to find the effective delay on a 30% Bard speed and 21% FBSS, I need to add the two hastes and apply the same forumla.

Delay Reduction = 1-1/(1+0.21+0.30)
= 1-1/1.51
= 1-0.66225
= 0.33775
= 33.775%

So, FBSS + Verses of Victory = 51% haste or 34% delay reduction.

RE: Haste argument
# Jul 04 2002 at 11:11 PM Rating: Default


RE: Haste argument
# Oct 10 2002 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
99 posts
*Chuckles uncontrollably*

Ya'll are funny! I honestly don't think the geek comment was intended as a serious slight. More like a good natured ribbing.

"Linux or Lynux, I dunno how you say it. Or how you install it, or use it, or play it..." - Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie

(A real comidian group... honest. Canadian, too.)
RE: Haste argument
# Oct 10 2002 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
Thank you for the schoolyard name calling...NOT
BUT, a very real thank you for the Haste discussion.
RE: Haste argument
# Oct 08 2002 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
Geek? Geek? its called math. not even advanced math. so log off sometime and go to school.
RE: Haste argument
# Aug 22 2002 at 7:00 AM Rating: Decent
Who's the geek, the person researching haste effects on discussion, or a person who FOLLOWS THEM AROUND telling them how 'geeky' they think they are? Not a hard question to me...

Edited, Thu Aug 22 07:48:29 2002
RE: Haste argument
# Apr 07 2003 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
I like to follow Geeks around, but i dont call them Geeks, i just take their ingenious ideas and apply them.

Learn from your friends for you developement, learn from your enemies for their demise! <check Spelling> >< still learning

Haste % on Magelo
# Mar 03 2002 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
This item has 26% haste according to Magelo. For the record, Magelo gets their item data (including haste %) directly from the game without human intervention. It is always right. If you ever want to know for sure what an item's haste percentage is, talk to Magelo.
haste tests
# Feb 22 2002 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
I ran some haste tests on this belt as a level 60 bard, equipping a shield in the offhand and a 24 delay weapon in primary.

With no haste, I made 35 attacks in 1:24, for a total of 2.4 seconds per attack (.417 attacks per second).

With a Silvery Belt of Contention (said to be the same haste as an FBSS), I made 41 attacks in 1:22, for a total of 2 seconds per attack (.5 attacks per second).

With a Sash of the Dragonborn, I made 38 attacks in 1:12, for a total of 1.89 seconds per attack (.528 attacks per second).

With the Shadowy Assassin Sash, I made 38 attacks in 1:12, for a total of 1.89 seconds per attack (.528 attacks per second).

So, basically, this belt is the same haste as the Sash of the Dragonborn.

[edited a typo in one of the numbers]

Artebus <Drunken Tsunami>
Level 60 Bard
Terris Thule

Edited, Fri Feb 22 03:55:32 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 21 2002 at 2:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is why you can't test haste when you have double attack. Your results are all over the place and completely inaccurate.
RE: haste tests
# Sep 22 2002 at 5:00 PM Rating: Excellent
37 posts
see the part where he says he is a bard?

bards don't get double attack smart guy.
RE: haste tests
# Oct 10 2002 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent tell'em...I hate flamers
# Feb 22 2002 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
Sorry Rogues can not pickpocket mobs above 45th level...
RE: Pickpocketing
# Apr 22 2002 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
It WAS that way before the revisions to pickpocket about a year or so back...

Now I believe the rules are level 45 max until you are level 51, and at that point you can pickpocket anything that's at least 5 levels below you...

I could be a bit off, but it's something along those lines...
RE: Pickpocketing
# Mar 27 2002 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
lol, and of course you gotta pickpocket your guildleader for epic. Just because rogues dont pickpocket high level things doesn't mean they cant.
RE: Pickpocketing
# Feb 22 2002 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
Um... i think either your Pick pocet skill sux or you just have bad luck... i've pick pocketed a lvl 50+ mob.. the Xi's in the maidens eye.
RE: Pickpocketing
# May 06 2002 at 5:10 PM Rating: Default
If you say you pickpocketed a 50+ mob and you're 49, then you're flat out lying.
Level 50 can pickpocket max level of 45
Level 51 - 46
Level 52 - 47
Level 53 - 48
Level 54 - 49
Level 55 - 50
Level 56 - 51
Level 57 - 52
Level 58 - 53
Level 59 - 54
Level 60 - 55
NO exceptions to this rule
RE: Pickpocketing
# Sep 26 2002 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
Ummm..I have a level 34 rogue and he was pickpocketing heads and toes off of giants in GD that coned yellow and red, so maybe there is an exception to the rule. /shrug
RE: Pickpocketing
# Oct 08 2002 at 8:19 PM Rating: Default
25 posts
Nope, that's still under the rule. Until 51 the max level you can pickpocket up to is 45. Period. Your chances might be a little low (understatement hehe) for some of those REALLY reds, but you *could* have a 1 in 10000000 chance of pickpocketing something off a lvl 45 while your lvl 6 or 7... dun remember what level we get that at... it's been soooooo very long. (3+ years...)
RE: Pickpocketing
# Aug 22 2002 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
He/she MAY be lying, OR they haven't updated their signature. Don't slam people for 'lying' if their are other reasons why it might look like they are.
RE: Pickpocketing
# Aug 22 2002 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
rogues cannot pickpocket magic items, they can pick stuff off of mobs higher than them though. as long as its not magic.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 09 2002 at 2:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) now i have no idea about the pickpocket lvl cap stuff but i know that you can't pickpocket magic items or items that the mob has equiped which would include this and most armor and weapons
Monks, stop drooling.
# Feb 21 2002 at 2:27 AM Rating: Decent
Look at the pic, no Monks or Beastlords.

Ah well, guess you guys gotta stick to your FBSS and SCHW or whatever 'old-skool' haste items you used to use.
RE: Monks, stop drooling.
# Feb 21 2002 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
well playing a beastlord but not a monk i can understand the purpose of this item..yes there are several items out there that have hast..personally i would rather use the silver chitin handwraps from velks..major hast item and at least has some ac..this is to save some of those haste items for people that do not have one which by time coming to this place should ahve one guess is that this item has a better haste ratio than fbss due to the level to get it
RE: Monks, stop drooling.
# Feb 25 2002 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
Silver Chitin Handwraps are all well and good, but if you are a Monk and are planning on finishing the Celestial Fists epic and you are using Silver Chitin for your item haste, bear in mind that you will have to replace the item haste you previously had on the Handwraps once you get your hand-slot epic. (CF haste is like 40%, from the right click effect, sort of pulses like a bard song, and stacks with one item haste and one spell haste).

Not that it would be any trouble to sell the SCHW and get an FBSS or whatnot, but hey.

RE: Monks, stop drooling.
# Feb 21 2002 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
Not Magic
# Feb 20 2002 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
Has anyone notices that this isnt a "Magic Item" which means get your rogue up there and Pick Pocket it. why fight when you can steal :-)
wuts the % of it?
# Feb 20 2002 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
wut is the haste %T on this? how much do these go for? thx in advance
RE: wuts the % of it?
# Aug 22 2002 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
I THINK the haste is 26%, and I've seen these for as low as 10k in the Bazaar (someone was selling everything on him), though that was on The Rathe server, you might be on a different one.
haste and missing
# Feb 20 2002 at 3:12 PM Rating: Default
Has any one ever really notice that when using a haste item you swing a lot more but you miss a lot more also. Might there be a trade off to the haste items like faster attacking but lower chance of hitting?

/em puts on FR gear and prepares for flamers >:P
RE: haste and missing
# Feb 20 2002 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
170 posts
Well obviously if you're swinging more often, you'll probably be missing as well. It's fairly proportional. :)
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 20 2002 at 12:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not Monk Wearable, What a rip..far as i know (in EQ world) that the Monks are defined by thier sashes/headbands, yet this time verant decides it we can't wear one... how sad 8/
RE: sucks
# Feb 20 2002 at 12:58 PM Rating: Default
From the list of classes that can use this piece it's obviously being considered "chain" armor. The name sure doesn't imply this though. From a pure role-playing point of view, something with a name like "Shadowy Assasin Sash" wouldn't be usable by Paladins at the least. Oh well, VI naming once again makes no sense.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 20 2002 at 10:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Plain and simple. Morons. Nice of them to put (worn) next to everything and even cast time on clickable items. For this it doesn't matter quite as much since it's droppable, but what about all the no drop haste items? How do I know if an item is an upgrade for me if the haste is 2% before I loot it???
# Feb 20 2002 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
welp its good to see another type of haste belt out there might makes aquiren a FBSS from the farmers a bit easier, This has no ac like the FBSS or FRSS but it adds some ok stats.....Still one of those items i wont be seeing.....Currently saven 5kpp for the SCHW......but a good addition non-the-less.....really makes me think about camopen the moldmaster for the 11%gloves
# Feb 20 2002 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
welp its good to see another type of haste belt out there might makes aquiren a FBSS from the farmers a bit easier, This has no ac like the FBSS or FRSS but it adds some ok stats.....Still one of those items i wont be seeing.....Currently saven 5kpp for the SCHW......but a good addition non-the-less.....really makes me think about camopen the moldmaster for the 11%gloves
# Feb 20 2002 at 1:56 AM Rating: Good
on a quick parse our Bard figured it to be around 25% increase in swings.
RE: Haste%
# Aug 22 2002 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
That was a pretty good test. Only off by 1% actually. I don't know how he tested that so well, double swings mess up a lot of haste tests, or so I've heard of. Makes sense, I have noticed myself that it is hard to find the 'beat' of swings with double attack.
/twittle thumbs
# Feb 20 2002 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
/emote Waits for the math-buffs to figure out the haste percentage for him so he can begin drooling.
Drops off
# Feb 19 2002 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
This sash drops off of a Shadowy Assassin. When I was fighting in umbral I also saw this mob drop a pally spell and a 12ac cloak with some stats.

Veganon Deadlyblade
<silver daggers>
karana server

Edited, Tue Feb 19 18:56:38 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 19 2002 at 6:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) on karana i almost one first one to drop but this STUPID pally had to roll and beet me by 2 i was soo pissed it would of been first thing i won in months lol
RE: almost won first one
# Feb 20 2002 at 12:53 AM Rating: Default
This STUPID pally? I do believe you are refering to me. Well, now I am really glad you lost. I guess the Divine Light was with me that day. Sorry sore loser!
RE: almost won first one
# Feb 20 2002 at 4:07 AM Rating: Default
lol... this is hilarious, considering I was on that raid. SFA has some great members judging by these posts.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 19 2002 at 6:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Cleric and shaman can use! ;) and MONK can NOT.
Let the posts begin
# Feb 19 2002 at 5:38 PM Rating: Default
Let the arguements about haste % begin )
RE: Let the posts begin
# Feb 19 2002 at 5:51 PM Rating: Default
seriously man why can't anyone agree on haste % of anything it's not like it's some kind of complex math or something

i once heard that haste% varies by the delay of your weapon maybe that's the problem
RE: Let the posts begin
# Feb 19 2002 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
Its like a physics problem -- the math is easy, but everyone gets messed up by the units.
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