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Shadows of Luclin
Camped him for a couple months, found him up on the week of 2/23/2015. He was holding the Hategiver and I was shocked. I logged my druid and ran my war over and by time I had gotten there, someone came in and had farmed him. The person had seen my war in zone and ooc'd to me that it had dropped. Ran the war up and looted in bewilderment. Long story short, this was a long camp. Still waiting on a Bloodfrenzy.
any caster can take aggro off a warrior, dont really know why you would want it though,best aggro getting class in the game if they want it is a shaman with Time's Anthesis, since theres no re-cast time if mob hits too high ur dead pretty damn quikc
I seen one of these selling on the new pvp-hard core server how the hell did they get this
dont flame me it is dropable there as nothing is no-drop
dont flame me it is dropable there as nothing is no-drop
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Posted: Jan 02 2004 at 8:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yeah ive heard from one of my friends who jumped on there that alot of people got uber weapons and stuff some how, he also said people are getting there epics...its all balogna if u ask me about this server waste of time...people are just teaming up with friends and killing each other to elevate on person and then when there all like 46-50 the go and and raid sumtin big just to see how juke they can get in like 1 month.....and i didnt hear about no nodrop thing lol so that means u might see lvl 1 with epic lol thatd be crazy...but a RL friend of mine said that someon gave the priest of discord the wars epic then a guild raided it...and it dropped for like a lvl 34...his chars name is xargus ask him about it...
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Posted: Mar 02 2004 at 3:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually there is a server that does have no no-drop tags. Its called Ferriona Vie or something can't spell it worth hell...but everything is droppable.
Is EVERYTHING droppable? I heard only some stuff was droppable
Epics, PoTime, and LDoN Buyable gear is nodrop on FV, pretty much everything else is droppable though
The only items that are No Drop on FV are Epics, certain quest pieces for Epics, and items provided by GMs for temporary use.
ldon gear -- buyable and augments are droppable. potime gear is also droppable, someone was selling a dodistraction for 1.4 mill last week (transfer from stormhammer.)
25 posts
Your not talking about FV server are yoU? Transfers to that server are not allowed.
Scholar
31 posts
Wrong. Transfers to and from FV were at one time not allowed. That, however, was a long time ago. Things have changed. We get items from stormhammer all the time, and characters from many servers have arrived here over the past, what?, year or so.
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LDoN buyable gear is in fact droppable on FV.
A lot of the items are not no drop but there is still a lot of stuff that is still no drop
actually i just looked at it and it says raises.
Raises your hate, so they hate you more. Lowers you on the agro list, getting you closer to being agro #1
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Here is what confuses me. The effect is writen as "Lower you on your target's hate list by 700pts" This is stated on both Alakhazams and Eqmaps. Now in reading the posts here I keep hearing about "Its give the wielder 700pts of agro on its target" Wouldnt this be exactly the opposite of what the weapon is intended to do?
Linudan~Ykz~Xev
42 posts
i believe its been reworded in eqcaster to say raised, but the original logic was that you were lowered...meaning you would go from say #2 on its aggro to #1 =P
5 posts
OK, look at what class can use the sword: WARRIOR ONLY. Now, what does that tell you... Warriors are TANKS they WANT AGGRO, thus the proc on this weap makes the mob hate the warrior wielding it more... the mob wants to kill the warrior more.
Think about it this way, when this weap procs, its like the warrior moons the mob or gives it the muddle finger, so it turns its attention more or fully to the warrior. = P
Think about it this way, when this weap procs, its like the warrior moons the mob or gives it the muddle finger, so it turns its attention more or fully to the warrior. = P
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Wow, didn't know warrior epic had such a large hate factor... Although Hategiver/Blade of Carnage are 700 vs 500.. its still quite a lot considering it is much easier to come buy.
I actually never read up on warrior epic proc before, but that certainly explains why it gives such great agro.
I actually never read up on warrior epic proc before, but that certainly explains why it gives such great agro.
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Posted: Jan 13 2004 at 12:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bloodfrenzy+hategiver=own BoC+war epic, of course thats a known factor if you have been playing awhile,,,BoC=awesome lvl 1 wpn with no lvl rec of course, you wont proc but who cares.
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BoC will proc at lvL 1.
Made a new warrior and put Helmet of RZ, Velium encrusted steins, boots of storm, BoC from my lvl 65 warrior. Added Iksar BP and Lodi belt for regen plus some lessor tweek items (like 65hp rings).
Was able to get upto lvl 30 very fast, before I lost interest and augmented them so couldn't take of lvl 65 warrior.
Made a new warrior and put Helmet of RZ, Velium encrusted steins, boots of storm, BoC from my lvl 65 warrior. Added Iksar BP and Lodi belt for regen plus some lessor tweek items (like 65hp rings).
Was able to get upto lvl 30 very fast, before I lost interest and augmented them so couldn't take of lvl 65 warrior.
Quote:
Velium encrusted steins
Because we all know Velium encrusted steins are sick agro...I'm sure you meant velium encrusted gauntlets
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Posted: Jun 17 2004 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol BoC DOES NOT proc at lvl 1. Stop spreading b/s lies. an i think you ment velium encrusted guantlets...not steins lmao. An why a ikky bp. Why not a fungi. Its alot better for regen purposes. (ikky is what 5 ? an lodi belt is 2 ...so 7 regen lol)
As of the date of YOUR post, June 17 2004, you are correct, BoC does not proc at level 1. However, that was a recent change, and back when he posted his, it did indeed proc at level 1.
just some info for those wondering, BoC is now req lvl 45 for the proc.
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why can't we delete posts if we change our minds about what to say? hehe
Edited, Fri May 31 22:14:00 2002
Edited, Fri May 31 22:14:00 2002
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Bad news about the warrior epic is that its sooo damn slow for a primary... I mean 24 delay in the primary wtf. If verant really wanted to make it taunt they would've given it decent delay at least on the primary sword. Kinda messed up that a warrior with his epic needs to rely on a proc to keep taunt imho.
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Warriors have never been the best at keeping Taunt...Monks can do a better job, as can Rangers, and any casters can out-Taunt melees if they are stupid enough. It is just the simple fact that smart Monks and smart Rangers allow the Warriors to keep the taunt so that they can, in turn, keep their lives.
Just one of the facts of EQ life /shrug
Just one of the facts of EQ life /shrug
14/24 may be slow, but lets not forget about the proc. I mean 500pts of aggro, that's a lot. I'd like to know from a another warriors point of view who has his epic if he still has trouble keeping aggro from lets say if he's in a group with a monk who has his epic and a rogue who has thier epic to. I know that as a warrior I still have trouble keeping aggro to even with two procing weapons(check out my magelo profile) and the point of the warrior epic is for the warrior to keep aggro. I am still trying to get my epics despite the fact that there are better weapons out there like this weapon. And 24 may be slow but lets not forget that most warriors will have some kind of haste item wich will probably bring the delay down to 20.
Takata K'Trazz LVL 58 Darkelf Myrmidon of Rallos Zek
Erollisi Marr
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=251453
Edited, Mon Oct 14 21:31:15 2002
Takata K'Trazz LVL 58 Darkelf Myrmidon of Rallos Zek
Erollisi Marr
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=251453
Edited, Mon Oct 14 21:31:15 2002
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Most of the posters about the warrior epic is right, it is too slow for primary and even with the proc it's still difficult to maintain aggro if a monk, rogue or ranger really wants aggro. In most cases if one of the mentioned classes wants to live they will control aggro on their own. The warrior epic just can't stack up with newer items considering the era it came out.
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=342420
Edited, Sun Nov 17 07:53:49 2002
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=342420
Edited, Sun Nov 17 07:53:49 2002
i tend to agree with you crazy. however, i'll point out one thing - even at the time it came out, it was inferior for keeping aggro. seb croaking dirk in primary STILL did a better job of making the mob hate you. and we aren't even going to get into the barbed scaled whip and moss covered twig, and WHY they were nerfed - they made aggro too easy.
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I'll bet that NOONE can out taunt someone Double weilding this and Sword of Carnage
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Tash then cripple
Sage Fealas
Sage Fealas
try sitting down .P
Roxas Nitehowler
60 warder of illumanati
MM
Roxas Nitehowler
60 warder of illumanati
MM
hunter Roxas Nitehowler
Plainswalker of illumanati
MM, EQ
hunter Roxas
WoW retired
Plainswalker of illumanati
MM, EQ
hunter Roxas
WoW retired
any shaman (slow + disease dots + poison dots)
any necro (disease dots + poison dots + fear [yes, it taunts a lot] + Pyre)
any necro (disease dots + poison dots + fear [yes, it taunts a lot] + Pyre)
Necro's now only need one spell to out tuant almost any war. Blood of Thule. I steal aggro (mostly unwanted) from even Pali's and SK's with one cast of BoT.
/auc WTS BoT aggro to a warrior, 50kpp
/auc WTS BoT aggro to a warrior, 50kpp
wtf warriors are tanking for you...i have no trouble with aggro an i am using boc / bf.
BTW yevun on Gegolian swap your bloodfrenzy/boc so bloodfrenzy is in primary....it has a modified proc rate that is better than boc on its innate eb, with wa5 those things will proc like mad and give you solid aggro.
Wakk - 115 Berserker - Rosengard III - Phinigel.
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Posted: May 15 2002 at 9:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rogue with a sweet piercer, and porbably any caster
1 Lvl 9+ shadowknight before the disease spell nerf could...
45 posts
*cough* Tash... Insects... and also anyone below 30% of health
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20% is blood aggro, not 30%.
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Posted: Apr 28 2002 at 5:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Mon May 27 18:50:57 2002
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Oh my goodness. Say a barb warrior wielding one of these and ohh my it is SO cool looking. A skull on the end of a stick. Might not sound like much but the look is PHAT. All high level guilds should get one for thier main and second tank for ALL raids. The ability to keep agro is SO vital in raids that this puppy is wanted by EVERY warrior I know. Rogues don't have to worry about a crit BS getting them agro anymore.
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Got this weapon today.. We were around 60 people and the fight took 25 minutes
It isn't that easy but all the fight thru we could see we would win, this weapon GIVES you 700 aggro points. there fore warrior only of course, great weapon and with this and a SoD you have the perfect warrior )
Rocco Irontoe
60th Hierophant
Forsaken Realm
Mithaniel Marr
It isn't that easy but all the fight thru we could see we would win, this weapon GIVES you 700 aggro points. there fore warrior only of course, great weapon and with this and a SoD you have the perfect warrior )
Rocco Irontoe
60th Hierophant
Forsaken Realm
Mithaniel Marr
22 posts
Overpowered? I think not. Creator isnt that hard for those who can kill other SoL boss mobs, which are ALL long fights. SoL seems to be based on stamina fights instead of brute force fights. Anybody can zerg a mob, but to maintain constant large scale dmg while keeping a tank alive through all that at LEAST deserves a weapon of this calibur, which by no means is overpowered.
This proc does 'nothing' besides add hate. It has no means of maintaining that aggro. The Sceptre of Destruction was easily obtained once you had the key... Creator requires a key... The fight is hard enough to justify this weapon, but its rare as hell as far as i can see. So far all ive seen is a bunch of monk loot drop.
Hopefully one of these will drop soon. Not sure if its better than SoD, but i can say with ease it would be a dynamic duo wielding SoD main, and Hategiver offhand.
This proc does 'nothing' besides add hate. It has no means of maintaining that aggro. The Sceptre of Destruction was easily obtained once you had the key... Creator requires a key... The fight is hard enough to justify this weapon, but its rare as hell as far as i can see. So far all ive seen is a bunch of monk loot drop.
Hopefully one of these will drop soon. Not sure if its better than SoD, but i can say with ease it would be a dynamic duo wielding SoD main, and Hategiver offhand.
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this destroys sod in taunt imo
damn straight
Edited, Thu Feb 21 09:10:19 2002
Edited, Thu Feb 21 09:10:19 2002
The item is kind of overpowered. Xerkizh is a bit of a pushover, imho, not much harder than yelinak or tormax, just a long fight. Most guilds that can do ntov can probably pop him. I mean, he's not a moss snake, but really this is the type of item that we were probably expecting to find off the Cursed if anyone drops him.
Damn this is amazing, definitely dream weapon here. Congratulations to anyone who has one of these! Wonder what it looks like.
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Alls I have to say is "holy ****." People without SoDs are going to be happy. People *with* SoDs are going to be even happier. Imagine an MA dualing this and an SoD...
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Just so you know, the info on Warrior Epic says "lowers" you on hate list as well... Which does NOT lower you, it raises you.
And you cant just walk up cal kill the Creator slick. No guildless person will ever get this, no person in a weak guild will ever get this, FEW people in badass guilds will ever get this.
This is a taunting weapon to replace Sod's from Sleepers and provide an alternate source for these weapons other than NToV.
Also, Epic weapons QUOTE "define the clas", they are NOT the best, they are NOT badass, they are difining of the class that wields it. Warrior epic taunts, druid epic snares, enchanter epic buffs, cleric epic rezzes... GET IT !??!
And you cant just walk up cal kill the Creator slick. No guildless person will ever get this, no person in a weak guild will ever get this, FEW people in badass guilds will ever get this.
This is a taunting weapon to replace Sod's from Sleepers and provide an alternate source for these weapons other than NToV.
Also, Epic weapons QUOTE "define the clas", they are NOT the best, they are NOT badass, they are difining of the class that wields it. Warrior epic taunts, druid epic snares, enchanter epic buffs, cleric epic rezzes... GET IT !??!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Druid's epic cast a DoT? Thought my friend told me that. And in response to what someone said about the Wizard's epic, the proc on that stick is a damage absorbing shield. Can someone tell me what use that'll be to a wizard who doesn't get agro (no, I'm not talking about myself here)? Thanks.
Wizard who doesn't get agro? There are wizards who don't get agro?
Besides that, it gives a small mana regen component (breeze level?).
Besides that, it gives a small mana regen component (breeze level?).
With a manastone and epic in the old world a wizzy has unlimited mana. Not to mention it sometimes saves those trying a little too hard to ks.
Nods
Nods
wasn't the manastone nerfed?
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manastone wasn't nerfed, it just no longer drops
also, it only works in the old world i.e. antonica, odus, and faydwer
also, it only works in the old world i.e. antonica, odus, and faydwer
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Can you finish that List?????
What does Ranger, Pally, SK, Necro, ETC Epics do????
I am just curious how most people would classify things of this nature..
Incidentally... This weapon is amazing. I am Wondering when the Ranger Usable Universe Conquering weapon is gonna drop. That INT Caster one is killing me :)
SGTalon
47 Ranger
Vallon Zek
What does Ranger, Pally, SK, Necro, ETC Epics do????
I am just curious how most people would classify things of this nature..
Incidentally... This weapon is amazing. I am Wondering when the Ranger Usable Universe Conquering weapon is gonna drop. That INT Caster one is killing me :)
SGTalon
47 Ranger
Vallon Zek
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Well, not to get too picky, but I am going to anyway. By your reasoning a Wizard epic should nuke. It doesn't though. Guess they didn't get them all right then.
I for one am glad that wizzard epic does not nuke, and I think the damage absorbing buff that it does have is wonderful for them. Think for a second, epic effects are suposed to be/are better than any other spell of its kind than that class has. Druid epic dot is snare/dot for about 1700 in 3 minutes, necro is 1500+ snare for 1 minute... blah blah blah. Thats what druids and necros do, they dot. But, its a long cast time(10 seconds for druid epic about). If a wizard had an epic style nuke, say low resist magic based for 2k damage MANA FREE, that would make them simply overpowering. Thus, they get the next thing on their "most needed" list. A rune type spell. When my wizard friends get agro even when they're careful not to, their hp drops fast (wizard I am speaking of is level 54). The rune type buff on wizz epic is wonderful for them.
In conclusion, this is a pretty damn sweet weapon :-)
In conclusion, this is a pretty damn sweet weapon :-)
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Posted: Feb 10 2002 at 3:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you know I could be wrong.... but when I think of a spell specific to a wizzy (and druid) I think port or TL because wizzys MAIN use is to port
Just to let you know, the wizzy's main use is to nuke, just way to many players think that porting/translocating is primary. It ain't. If their main use was to port, they'd get their port spells quite a bit earlier then druids.
VI make weapons, so that peeps with out epic weilding: warriors bards rangers monks etc that arnt in uber guilds. Its a good cause but also makes Uber guilds more powerful. So what peeps cant get into Uber guilds cause of class limits or 55+ chars. Some just want to play.
58 bard
40 war
54 ranger
54 chanter
58 cleric
yes im still wearing crafted, ss , stuff from Me zone. And weilding wurmslayer, chared guard sheild. etc and some plane armor. so what i dont got epics, I just like to play.
58 bard
40 war
54 ranger
54 chanter
58 cleric
yes im still wearing crafted, ss , stuff from Me zone. And weilding wurmslayer, chared guard sheild. etc and some plane armor. so what i dont got epics, I just like to play.
Enraging Blow
Lowers you on the target's hate list by 700
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
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Resistance Check: None
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Spell Duration: Instant
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Spell cast on you: Your head snaps back.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's face contorts with rage.
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Now if only it wasn't war only :(
Anyways nice item for warriors who AREN'T MAs so much for verant wanting to steer away from the one tank taking hits groups...
Edited, Fri Feb 8 23:41:06 2002
Lowers you on the target's hate list by 700
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
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Resistance Check: None
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Spell Duration: Instant
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Spell cast on you: Your head snaps back.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's face contorts with rage.
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Now if only it wasn't war only :(
Anyways nice item for warriors who AREN'T MAs so much for verant wanting to steer away from the one tank taking hits groups...
Edited, Fri Feb 8 23:41:06 2002
Just to Clarify a little:
When you think "Lowers" you on Hate list:
Imagine the guy number 7 on the mobs hatelist and then "lowered" to number 1 on that mobs hatelist.
This has the effect of actually making the mob hate you more! Lots of attacks/procs/spells have a certain hate-factor added in. By adding 700 points, you "lower" your number on the mobs hatelist... although when we think of ranks, we think of 1 as the highest (in this case, it's the other way around)
Every main-tanking uber warrior will want one of these puppies =)
When you think "Lowers" you on Hate list:
Imagine the guy number 7 on the mobs hatelist and then "lowered" to number 1 on that mobs hatelist.
This has the effect of actually making the mob hate you more! Lots of attacks/procs/spells have a certain hate-factor added in. By adding 700 points, you "lower" your number on the mobs hatelist... although when we think of ranks, we think of 1 as the highest (in this case, it's the other way around)
Every main-tanking uber warrior will want one of these puppies =)
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
6 posts
WELL PUT.
People seem to have a hard time understanding the 'lower you on hate list' means MORE taunt.
=D
Xilinxs
55 War / Xegony
People seem to have a hard time understanding the 'lower you on hate list' means MORE taunt.
=D
Xilinxs
55 War / Xegony
This is Offically better than warrior epic, which has 14/24 and procs only 500 hate. (the other one kinda sux IMHO, since it's just a buff, not a taunt proc)
Oddly the files use a strange convention (well, actually the text fellows screwed this one up). Lowering yourself by 700 actually is raising yourself on the hatelist. Jolt, for example, has the following effect "Lowers you on the target's hate list by -500". So, lowering by a negative amount does indeed lower you, while lowering by a positive amount raises you on the list. Silly but it makes this a really, really, really good taunting weapon likely.
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Yeah the way the program that interprets the spdat file formats the info output is a little misleading on the whole hatelist effect thing. Just a case of poor wording, hopefully he will fix it in the next version
~Neq
~Neq
The name of this weapon should of been Aggrogrubber. =)
Lol with a name like that, Warrior only.. and a proc with that name... wow.. this has GOT to be a great agro keeper =) oh and not to mention the ubah dmgdly
42 posts
So whats the proc do?
can you say MA !
the name of the proc sounds like it has some serious taunt to it like a nice stun proc
the name of the proc sounds like it has some serious taunt to it like a nice stun proc
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i know a guy on Sol Ro name Necabo ... he has this item..... He is sooooo Uber!! I wish o could use it .. but im only a SK.... To bad we cant all be warriors. Do yuo think Dwarves should eb aloud to use it ??
I don't think people could spell back in this era.
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