Ok i've had this weapon for some time and it's really a great little spear, the gfx kindda sucks it looks like your stock luclin spear like the kind you see on elemental island in twilight sea, as for the click effect well it's nice to have somthing to click on to enhance what your DoT's are doing, and it saves mana, doesn't cause alot of aggro, and isn't poison based, the JBB has it's uses but I admit when it comes to stats the JBB really sucks and I hate shuffling items around. The sit time isn't really an issue but canni time is untill I got canni 5, the dam/delay is nice when you feel like having fun with rabid bear, but those times are far and few between. All around if you have the means to get one do so thier nice. oh and the newer server indeed don't see many JBB's as not near as many ppl go to seb as they used to. Anyway thats all i can think of happy hunting.
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Posted:Oct 28 2002 at 7:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My shaman meleed all the way til 26, when I realized he had gaps in his equipment and put him on hiatus til I have the cash to finish twinking him. He had full jbb minus bracer bp and leggings, and an iksar bp. He also had a lot of +hp items.
Clicky spell items never have a recast time. They usually increase the spellcasting time of the original spell by a good chunk to make it less useful (ie Vermillion Robe of Torrefaction = wizzy nuke. They pretty much doubled the cast time)
So ya get a free nuke, just takes a long while to cast, and usually, unless you're sitting on a horse, the time spent sitting rather than waiting for the click would make you regen enough mana to cast it again ;P
JBB 9 sec cast time 263 points of damage 32 points per sec useful at level 45 dropable, sellable and fairly common
Winterstorm 6.5 sec cast time 180 points 27 points per sec usefull level 51 very rare no drop
JBB drops of a mob in the mid 50's Winterstorm drops off a level 63 mob that takes a full guild to get to and kill
So they reward us by making it an inferior right click...most if not all of the non iksar shaman will have a JBB before they get this. The only reason I got it was for the proc when I full around with melee. I got a message from Absor about this..he said his idea to balance it would be to lower the damage on the JBB! Come on....Jesus I hate VI sometimes
I am sorry sir on the newer server JBBs are not fairly common. In fact on stromm there may be as many as 8 serverwide. There are easily 3 times as many winterstorms on the server as JBBs. The evolved burrower is a good lewt drop mob that guilds hit often and its easy to swing over and hit THO. When its not so easy to just spend the cash and buy a JBB the arguement changes.
I am an Iksar shaman, Iksars were so powerful they made them unable to use the normal armors, they made Iksar ones with less AC (AC bonus) less wisdom (wisdom base stats) etc... etc... I can't use the JBB bracer, so I would love a right click nuke, not really useful, but hey, its a game so it's just to have fun.
Now look at the ratio, 22 23.. With swift like the wind, voice of the berserker, carnage, rabid bear, I was seeking a good weapon to melee well with my 280 str, dex and 1200 attack. I got a Tae aew War maul (33 36 but 2h blunt) so I would love a 1h piercing weapon with great ratio as a shaman, easy to switch.
So just grab this weapon if you have the balls to stay alive on this fight, and go have fun in mistmoore with this, meleeing like god himself.
hey genius! how long do you think fights last? if you plan to chain cast these effects, the winterstorm will outdamage the JBB incrementally the longer the fight lasts. for example, you can only cast the jbb 6 times in a one minute period, where you can cast the winterstorm 9 times in the same period. i trust you can AT LEAST do the math. so your comment about the effect being an "inferior right click" is deep rooted in utter ignorance.
Pheign is clearly the Non Genius here, you clearly didnt read the difference in damage. He compared dps's not cast times. So he did do the maths, where as Pheign clearly cant.
Well, in regards to the dps 263dmg/8secs is greater dps than 180dmg/6.5secs. So over the course of the fight without resists or interrupts you will do MORE damage with the jbb PERIOD. KK thx la~
-> In 8 sec, your JBB makes 264 dd -> In 8 sec, your Winterspear does 180 + 40,5 = 220 dd
This item don't beat the JBB in terms of proc but i think it's not its purpose. It's - before anything else - an awsome SPEAR, really sweet in melee and coming wiht lovely stats. Basicaly, this item have to be seen as kinda mix between Spear of Fate and JBB, though not as good as the sum of those two items.
It's a bit like a HoS compared to a full set of individual buffs = Not as good, but it's all in one :-)
In response to the level 51 Shaman who says shamans do not melee, you are correct for lower levels. At higher levels when you are soloing with spear of fate, jbb, and you get some high level gear with nice ac and hopefully some type of regeneration on it you will be able to melee quite effectively once the mob is slowed they dont do much dmg to you. Dot the mob up start meleeing with pet at your side if you get low on hps then its time to torpors. Simple easy and effective Cannibilize after fight for a couple of seconds and pull again.
well at 59 i mele alot after i get the debuffs on and a jbb is just to slow on the cast time to be worth it in a good group i just mele and hell with this weapon and with celerity (or a better chanter haste) i bet i could hold my own on dammage output lol since my piercing is maxed at 200 and with self buffs i can get my attack around 1100 with the spear of fate. at least this could be a fun toy on raids when u makin fun of the tanks and outdammaging the war's
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spell cast on you: You stagger as spirits of winter slam against you. Spell cast on someone: Soandso staggers as spirits of winter slam against them.
I have epic spear and I would still use this thing! Despite what people think, shammys melee quite a bit especially when soloing. With this bad boy i could miss like the wind!
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Posted:Feb 07 2002 at 1:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not all Shaman do melee much. I do the same melee times as a cleric, when its a weenie or I'm fm and don't need to do anything to the pull. I find things work better for me when I don't melee, and I have noticed that I have soloed things far beyond what alot of shaman sites say I should. But getting to the weapon, I think the epic has more wis and it has the dot, but if they were the same I would be willing to switch it out after the dot for this to whack on the weenie mob. Also very good if you go along to a raid for youngins and want to save mana, and if it looks good like the War Spear we get in DN.... very nice for impressing people.
Wouldn't bat an eye at this weapon at all, but I am still waiting on something with a delay of about 50 or 60 and insane ratio. Something like that would be marvelous for farming for tradeskills. fire off a JBB between shots, then get in a hit, hopefully proc, and do another JBB. Naggy hammer is alright for this, but loosing the shield is sorta annoying.