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MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: CHEST
AC: 50
STR: +10 STA: +15 WIS: +10 INT: +10 HP: +50 MANA: +50
SV FIRE: +8 SV DISEASE: +8 SV COLD: +8 SV MAGIC: +8 SV POISON: +8
Mana Regeneration: +5
WT: 1.0 Size: LARGE
Class: ALL except WAR MNK NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Leather 2
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Color (RGB):5, 5, 5
Stackable:No
Submitted By:Thundergut Rumblebelly
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Item Updated By:Oxgoad
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Shadows of Luclin Item


Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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best class
# Jan 27 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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ok guys.. someone is missing the point here --THIS IS LEATHER ARMOR -- so who is it best for ? Thats right...the toons that wear leather armor. Don't beat yourselves up about it. The simple answers are always the last ones given.
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Drool !!!
# Dec 07 2004 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
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This is the most awsome Chest item avialbe to Beastlords in the game. Beastlords are forever running out of mana. Also as was stated earlier, the 50 AC omg , nothing even comes close to this. This armor does lack some stats but those can be made up on ANY other slot.

A note to the person suggesting we should be posting info on how to get this awsome armor....

First - were all just drooling over it, if we knew for sure how to get it, I believe we would all have one, LOL.. I mean come on, there is nothing more fun then dreaming about what you could be wearing on your chars..

Second - when judging others so harsh, you usualy dont relieze that your just telling everyone " Hey , btw , I am a jerk... So dont mind me... " enough said..

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RE: Drool !!!
# Dec 19 2004 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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Please to tell me that you mean most awesome Chest for a non-ele+-raiding guilded person. There is Way better out there than this, but you're going to have to go ele, Time, GoD or OoW.

Additionally, non-raided, you've got:

Beast Tamer's Jerkin Submitted by: Fleven
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Weight: 9.0 Size: LARGE
Slot: CHEST
AC: +35 Str: +8 Dex: +10 Sta: +17 Wis: +15 Disease Resist: +15 Magic Resist: +15 Poison Resist: +10 HP: +135 Mana: +120
Classes: Beastlord
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 7
Last updated: Fri Oct 29 00:53:02 2004

Effect: Wild Spirit Infusion
1: Increase All Skills Damage Modifier by 50%
2: Skill Damage Taken(-15)

Type: Triggered
Charges: Unlimited

I have yet to run into a BL who runs out of mana more easily than the other classes in his / her group. It's usually the healer asking for med breaks. Naturally, it all depends on gear and play style; but, for the most part, BLs that I have run in to have Not run LoM nor OoM often. If you still want mana regen, aug it. FT2 augs are gotten easily enough in LDoN And you've got 70 extra mana on this BP than the Burrower tunic. So, you're giving up 5 mana every 6 seconds, would take you 1 min, 24 seconds to regen 70 mana at 5 mana per tick. (70/5 = 14 * 6 seconds = 84 seconds, translating to 1 min, 24 seconds). So, you either have 70 extra mana Or you regen 70 of your existing mana pool for 1 min, 24 seconds. With so many of those disgusting KEI bots people run these days, regen shouldn't be a problem, nor should it be a problem with the BL's own mana regen buff, things get rough, you've got paragon.

Now, how about, for ele raiding guilds, FR drops a nice BP with a mana pres effect:

Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Weight: 2.5 Size: LARGE
Slot: CHEST
AC: +45 Str: +25 Dex: +20 Sta: +20 Cha: +10 Wis: +25 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150 Mana: +150 End: +150
Classes: Beastlord Druid Monk
Focus Effect: Preservation of Xegony
1: Decrease Spell Mana Cost by 15%
2: Limit: Max Level(67) (lose 10% per level over cap)
3: Limit: Spell(Complete Healing excluded)
4: Limit: Effect(Percentage Heal excluded)
5: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed

ATK +35

THEN aug that with an FT3 item or such and you've got something which outshines the Ancient Burrower Hide Tunic by far.

However, if you're in a guild which has targets such as the Burrower as their cap, yes, this is Quite a nice BP. To say this is the most awesome BP in the game; however, is a false statement. Case in point:

Chaos-Imbued Leather Tunic
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Weight: 2.0 Size: LARGE
Slot: CHEST
AC: +50 Str: +25 Dex: +25 Sta: +30 Wis: +20 Fire Resist: +20 Cold Resist: +20 Magic Resist: +20 Poison Resist: +15 HP: +235 Mana: +220 End: +220
Classes: Monk Druid Beastlord
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 8

Focus Effect: Preservation of the Aneuk
1: Decrease Spell Mana Cost by 15%
2: Limit: Max Level(70) (lose 10% per level over cap)
3: Limit: Spell(Complete Healing excluded)
4: Limit: Effect(Percentage Heal excluded)
5: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed
6: Limit: Spell Type(Detrimental only)

Additional Modifiers:
Shielding: +2%
Avoidance: +15

There's another listed which has better stats, but you were referring to mana regen, well, this has your mana Pres (15%) and 170 more mana than the Burrower tunic. That more than balances the FT loss, but . . . you could always aug it with an Ebony Spherule of Focus which would add FT3 and is dropped in KT. Now you are Well beyond the Burrower's tunic. Smiley: yikes Smiley: jawdrop Smiley: bowdown

Oh, and you get it by killing the Burrower in The Deep. Raid event, done easily enough with 35+ of your closest friends ranging from level 45+ if they're not elementally geared. Smiley: smile

Edited, Sun Dec 19 13:55:33 2004
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old school
# Aug 22 2004 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice item for someone in old school zones. Not as uber as it used to be. LDON can augment it for hitpoints mana stamina or various other things for at least 40hitpoints or 10 stamina. God zones have some augments that are better than ldon ones. Veeshans Peak has augments, the list grows. I have a chanter with FT15(worn) its not that hard to get anymore. MC3aa and gather mana and VOQ make for a happy chanter. The road to worn FT15 is like the end of a quest, now move on to other things besides worried about mana.
#Medeec, Posted: Aug 18 2004 at 5:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have never seen an ENTIRE forum wasted on such dribble argument. What a bunch of ******* children. My bard needs it! Wha wha wha! Give it to the bard!
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# Aug 22 2004 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to agree with Medeec but wish to throw my 2 cents worth in to say as a 64 druid on raids most of the time I am put in a group as MH and I have to not only heal (with less effective spells than a cleric) but also snare,usually AC debuff and throw in the occasional root/dot/nuke as required.Also time after time I have sen these uber items I drooled over only to find they are cleric only or somesuch.So please try to consider druids as a top needer for this item we do much more than merely kick back and wait for the MT to get to 30% (I usually have to heal at 50% myself).As for any of the normal non-healing plate classes needing a leather item I'd say this is laughable as there are much more suitable items out there.
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bstlord
# Jul 02 2004 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
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50ac, bst useable, search the ac for bst chest items, this is the highest in the game, not even Gates has better...not saying for them only but you gotta think about that....they are melee and do get hit yet a luclin item has the higest ac they can possibly get? kinda lame imo

btw i am not a bstlord, just did a search and found this tid bit of info
aren't we supposed to help each other ?
# Jun 28 2004 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
You know what my absolute favorite thing is about you petty people ? Rather than posting any strategy that you used to take this event down, helping potential new guild leaders to help their guildies get this item, you all would rather bicker over what class should get this. That is the problem with this site. Too much crapola and not enough players helping players going on here. Just my not so humble opinion. If the shoe fits wear it.
#Gribi, Posted: Jun 09 2004 at 8:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Give it to the SHM *laugh*
Mana Regen
# Jun 07 2004 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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This Item would be good for any caster whether it be a pure caster or Hybrid.

Most of what people are talking about becomes redundant and not even when you hit end game. Most Clerics I know are at there FT Cap.

Let me think my brother level 56 Cleric has 2 Ornate Vambraces at FT II each, Boots of Flowing Slime FT III, and Earing of Solstice FT I. This puts a level 56 Cleric at FT 8 very quickly. no this is no FT 15 but you only need seven more. Do some ldons once you hit 65 and you can get atleast to augs for another FT I each bringing it to 10.

Now lets look at how the game has changed.

When we only had level 60

Lets leave FT out for now.

Okay so we have

KEI 14/tic
Spiritual Purity 7/tic
Protection of Glades 6/tic
Chorus of Replenish 12/tic
Total Regen 39/tic

So FT 10 brings it to 49 FT 15 to 54. So 490/min or 540/min. Not 100% sure but seems to me cleric have a self buff the equivalent of POG which stacks with virtue.

Now Level 65

VOQ 18/tic
PO9 8/tic
SD 9/tic
Chorus of Marr 21/tic
Total 56/tic

With FT 10 66/tic FT 15 71/tic.

The only clerics complaining about not getting this would be the ones that have not capped there FT and figure it should be handed to them on a plate.

Every Caster benefits from added mana some to a lesser extent then others.
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#Warrenmjr, Posted: Apr 28 2004 at 7:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK, OK. I feel bad for you Bards whose innate mana regen is 1. But even though this is a FT5 item, I do not know why you would trade the rest over some of the plate armor you can wear. It seems to me that if you want to regen your mana that quickly, you might think of just killing yourself. Sure, you would lose all your buffs, but everyone has to eventually choose their priorities. Now, personally, as a druid, I thought this tunic was awesome, even before I saw the FT5. I think the fact that this is a leather tunic only lends itself to support people's claims that druids and beastlords should get first shot at this. I mean the FT5 is great, but for leather, the other stats are excellent too. That should be taken into consideration as well.
RE: Bards crying about mana regen
# Apr 28 2004 at 11:35 PM Rating: Default
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Hey Druid, next time you're oom you might think of just killing yourself. Sure, you would lose all your buffs, but everyone has to eventually choose their priorities.
RE: Bards crying about mana regen
# Apr 30 2004 at 10:13 PM Rating: Default
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Can't argue with that logic. Why bother sit and regen anything?

Edited, Fri Apr 30 23:15:28 2004
mana lover
# Apr 23 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm a lvl 52 bard (so far) so what I say may not carry that much weight but I'll just tell you what I know.

I HATE rezzes, why? because Rez = NO MANA, which is not good for me, and most definatly not good for my group. For a minor cc issue pulling just one add is simple, simply mezz it, no problem. I can even continue to twist by toggling my targets to keep mezz going and keep fighting other mob while buffing party and slowing the one we are fighting (I keep a 4 song twist).

BUT what about those times the lull failed, or they jumped you before you even got a lull out, and you end up with 4-5 angry mobs ganging up on your cleric? IF I have MANA I can first and foremost CHARM as my first line of cc in that situation. There... that takes care of 1-2 targets because I immediatly sic my pet on one of them and hotkey for party to get away and let them duke it out or make it assist our tank, then I need to just mezz the extras.

BUT if I have no mana due to rezz (or when I get it-fading memories), or desperate dirge, or whatever, do you have ANY idea how long it takes to meditate back up from zero mana when your meditate skills are capped at 1 and you don't even get the benefit from your own mana regen song, nor anyone elses mana regen spells? Well, it takes a long time.

And no mana seriously hinders my ablility for life saving cc.

And I cant even imagine what its like using this fading memories thing as I dont have it yet, so there is another desperate need for mana.

I love my mana much much more than I love my exp even. Its a sad day for me when I have to accept that rez because the party needs me back immediatly, because if I have a choice I will run my own CR myself. Please, please do consider bards as very very valid candidates when it comes to flowing thought items. Just my two cents.
ROFLMFAO
# Apr 28 2004 at 8:53 AM Rating: Default
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Why are you fool streating this as an XP mob camp? Its a raid loot. If your guild gives this to a Bard over your Priests, then please remind your leader to take a nice look at your guild management tool and then just /guilddelete.

Priests Mana Regen >>>>>> everything else.
RE: ROFLMFAO
# Jun 23 2004 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Well before loging try to know the class you are speaking about. Bard need FT badly, not to charm like the young bard say, but to fade and pull.

Even if your cleric is at FT15 if the puller bring 15 mob that will not change anything :p


Of course cleric need FT too but that's not the only ones.

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# Jun 08 2004 at 7:23 AM Rating: Default
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Our guild (as a hybrid raid/family guild) balances out these differing priorities by alternating loot options on items like this. Odd drops are for cleric/druid only; even loots are open to all applicable classes.
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Sorry
# Apr 21 2004 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
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But i have to laugh at the people who likes to play the neutral side of the fence and say this BP is good for all that can use. I have never heard such outrageous bullcrap in my life. Grow a pair (or if ye a chick, out that barbie doll down and be a woman) and stand up for what is right in that this BP should ONLY go to PRIESTS. In a pickup raid sure anyone can compete it for since its all about greed there, but ANY guild who decides to let a tank or melee spend DKP on this over a Priest should take a good long look at their Guild Management tool and then just /guilddelete. Unless the guild is doing him for ***** and giggles and need plat, FT5 goes to Priests first to max their FT.
RE: Sorry
# Apr 22 2004 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Agreed, this is an excellent preist item, but its usefulness for a puller shouldn't be understated. Bards make excellent pullers, and late in the game are superior in many ways to other pulling classes (like in PoF). However, there aren't that many bard usable FT items out there, and Fading Memories takes a goodly chunk of mana. Granted I am a bard and am therefore biased, but a single pull on a PoF named reduces the number of CH's. Just somthing to think about.
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RE: Sorry
# Jul 03 2004 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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This is best for bsts we are mellee and this is the highest ac tunic we can get in the game and the ft is harder for us to get. Next would be druids cause the are leather also and good leather hard to get at any point in the game. All other classes listed can get better ac items than druid and bsts.
What the Hell
# Mar 28 2004 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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This whole forum here has to be one of the biggest collection of selfish and/or unfounded posts I've seen in a while.

Everyone here can see the benefits of their class having this and can't really see past that.

The following is just my opinion and whatever your guild wants to do go for it, some will just open roll or use DKPs then its just up to you but whatever.

First off this is not a Tank BP. No matter what you think 50 AC 50 HP is not good enough to tank in... for God's sake its called HIDE. No Paladins (which I am so backoff), No Shadowknight. YES Paladins do use mana but when Paladins need to start using mana they use it up FAST (even with a big mana pool.) Paladin healing power lies in Swift heals that burn up mana quickly, FT will help nothing.

Shammies and BL's generally spend their Mana in Bursts. Pet, Buffs, Canny, Q self... Debuff, Slow, DoT, Canny, Q self... Q others... End of story. BL's don't use any mana past their pet/buff stage usually, sometimes to try to help Debuff/Slow but its generally pointless. =P BL Dots/Nukes are for crap usually too...

Rogues don't even need mana... cross them out.

That leaves Druids, Clerics and Bards. I don't usually take kindly to the Druid class but they really are a good use of FT (alot better than Shammies who can easily survive without Crack at all). They are always thrown into Damage, Healing, or some kind of Crowd control. Either way they will be burning mana from the beginging of the battle until the end, giving them a use for all that mana.

Clerics will heal from the begining of a battle to the end, battles lasting upwards of 20 minutes, where FT5 will effect them 50m/m @ 20m = 1000 more mana.

Bards may be needing to use Fade, Charms, and other effects that cost mana and they *HELLO* are not effected by Mana Regenerating Spells nor do they have a Meditate skill over level 1. While it is true that bards spend much less mana than other classes, FT is the only Mana regeneration that effects them and Bards should ALWAYS be looked at when dealing with FT.


Whatever nobody will care what I say... Paladins and Shammies will go on trying to show how this is so Good for them not being able to see past their own Class.

And BTW monks who claim this is so great your Ornate is lacking in AC but other than that it TOTALLY Dominates this. 50 more HP, DEX/AGI and a nice clicky for when your soloing (monk soloing BWHA?)
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RE: What the Hell
# Apr 04 2004 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
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Bah, your a moron. I being a Sk can say that I am pressed for mana a great majority of the time. In xp groups I am constantly casting and never have time to med. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE NOT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN!!! Also, how do you feel if your MA says oom, lets take a med break. This in my opinion can benefit many classes, but none more then a SK. SK can also be alot of DPS if they have sufficient mana, and can also heal themselves alot with lifetaps if they are not oom.
RE: What the Hell
# Apr 05 2004 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
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I recognize myself greatly in the post of the person you call a "moron". I'm almost 100% that he/she is a bard. Did you ever saw a bard sit down and med ? Did you ever saw a bard call for a med break ? No.

But what you probably did saw is a bard being asked to use Fading Memory to pull a mob after the raid wiped on a bad FD pull that YOU sk (or monk) did. Then you'll have to pray the lord for the bard to have some FT items cause ITS the only (did i said it was the ONLY?) way we have to regen our mana and that FM cost us 900 to use. Kei dosent work, Bst lord crack dosent work, necro's mana dump either, my word even mod rods dosent work.

Now i got FT6 so far and i can swear that i can use FM a max of 3 or 4 times in a 3 hour raid. After i'm drained up. Dont even ask me to use it after a wipe, it takes me 20 minutes at least to get enough mana to use it once when i'm OOM.

So yes, the first class this BP should go is bard. Without any doubt. Then Druid, then cleric and last on the list would be Sks and pallies.

Before flaming me, think of one more thing : Any other class will use this BP only untill a certain points after that, they'll get max FT anyways from other items that fits other slots. A bard on the other end, would use this item forever.
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# Apr 20 2004 at 9:35 PM Rating: Default
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quite honestly this BP is good for any class that can use it. rogues make the least use of the item from the list, however nice the stats are. my personal feelings on order of precidence is:
1-Cleric (healers having mana always a priority)
2-Shadowknight (use much mana all the time no matter what their job in group/raid)
3-Druid (we always use tons of mana, it's a given)
4-Shaman (while they have very good regen on their own, shamans make good use of their mana and that extra bit means a lot)
5-Beastlord/Paladin (definately make use of the mana regen, but not exactly a priority. the only exception being a pally tank who uses lots of stuns to keep aggro really)
6-Ranger/Rogue (either don't have mana, or don't use it very often in comparison to everyone else, so they come in last)
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#tzsjynx, Posted: Jul 09 2004 at 12:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Correct List would look as follows.
RE: What the Hell
# Mar 28 2004 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm sorry but your way offline with that one bud. And I wasn't bieng selfish, I was giving my points on why it's good for me and asked what others though...
Almost a month later and I haven't posted OOM yet, jealousy will be your downfall tzsjynx.
RE: What the Hell
# Apr 30 2004 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I try to see things from both sides, but I honestly, think bards can use this more than other classes, Like someone posted before, there isnt that many Bard FT items, that arnt 'considered Cleric items' but honestly think about it, I've been on a lot of raids, and yes, the clerics run out of mana, and the druids, and the shamans, and the ah who the hell cares, you can get KEI, and Nine, and bother the hell out of me with your 'necro feed pls' spam, over and over and over, and you'll be 50% or more mana rather quickly, the bard? Well, they sit/stand/pick their asses, and their mana regen is the same, 1 mana per tick with any FT they have, You priest classes have alot more choices for FT, and are considered for more ft items than bards. And by the way, Necromancers have ALOT more use than feeding.
Paldins
# Mar 26 2004 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
Yes Thro, Paladins are sorely underestimated, but as a class that can use, and being in a high end guild where I see paladins use RGC regularly, and grp healing a LOT when the clerics are on CH rotation, I can definitely support you in saying that Paladins are VERY worthy of priority consideration on this item. Lots of guilds over look their back up healers, usually to their detriment. In high end encounters the clerics are NOT the ones curing anyone, it is the paladins who often get stuck with RGC dity, along with shammies and druids. So gratZ on your get.
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# Mar 13 2004 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I see alot of posts here on many classes but I see noe Hybrid/Pally posts, I won this last week as a Pally I have ornate boots, this tunic, and EoSolstice, giving me with self buffs FT 12. Ask any cleri and he will tell you he is glad I have it. I got all this gear within a week and the differance was insane! Not only can I tank using chain stuns, but I can cast grp heals with a KEI or VoQ and always be full mana. I definatly love this tunic and hope that I see more Pally's give up thier idea's about it.
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# Feb 21 2004 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
Wonder how many rogues are wearing it, hahaha.

This is like all loot, it will go to a class that can use, and in most instances the person with the highest DKP will get it. Not all guilds are like that, but I doubt it would be rolled on.

In a benevolent dictatorship type guild it would probably be assigned to clerics first since from an overall guild perspective you NEED your healers to have FT. If all your clerics had ft15 (unlikely if you are still killing this mob) then realistically it would be assigned next to druids and paladins as back up grp healers.

Personally I would love to see rangers, SK, bard and BL get it, since they are rarely prioritised when guilds are considering the FT loot distribution. I hope for your sake that if you play one of those classes you are in a guild that will be in a position to be awarding this to you. Otherwise, resign youselves to the fact that clerics will probably be getting it.

Rogues, sorry, no matter how benevolent the dictator, I don't think there will be a backstabber wearing this one unless it's about to rot after a wipe and you are the only one who managhed to SoS out :o)

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Toadie post
# Jan 10 2004 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you should edit your post... "my group cleric will be rolling on it as well, whether they need or not."

This is a no drop item and frankly, if you don't need it, you shouldn't be rolling on it. If you ever don't need a no drop item, chances are there is someone in your party who DOES need it. My philosophy is, if someone needs something that you don't, let them have a chance at it. It will make your guild a better guild in the long run.
RE: Toadie post
# Jan 16 2004 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think he meant whether the cleric needs it or not, I think he means the cleric will roll on it whether or not the beastlord needs it.
beastlord
# Jan 05 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
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this is the best beastlord tunic in the game, noone should ever have the chance on it over a beastlord. this is not an opinion, just the way things should be


While I do understand that this may be the best bst armor in game, I think that the FT5 makes it a very useful cleric item. I don't care how many bst's are in my group that want it, my group cleric will be rolling on it as well, whether they need or not.
RE: beastlord
# Jan 07 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
Aye, a cleric (any caster for that matter) can use ft5, but considering that this is the only armor which is 50 AC, this is our best choice. There are many ft5 options out there but no other AC 50 options.
RE: beastlord
# Jan 28 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
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Sorry guys.....have to add my 2cp here as well.....it may be a great cler item....and a great Bst item. but what limits do you have on Mana regen? My bard would love this item and gladly sac some stats just for the FT 5.....think about it. we can't use KEI we can't use kitty crack, no mana song, and we have a capped med skill of 1. therefore when a bard dies or goes oom it takes a looonnnggg time to regen their mana. A lot of people seem to think that that's no big deal. i'll give you that sometimes it's not. but next time you're in a group with an enchanter and a bard and ench dies look at who takes over mez's while ench is gone. guess who. the Bard. and our higher end mezzes take mana. therefore if the ench goes ld.......doesn't come back....we have to mez for the length of the group...even more important now with LDoN's where you can't replace until you're done. So....ench is ld. Bard is mezzing and using mana. what happens when the bard is oom? you wait for the mana to regen. you wish....there's not enough time in a ldon. or most groups for that matter. SO! why would you guys like to say that Bards would be SoL on a roll with you? they'd likely put it to just as much use as you
RE: beastlord
# Jan 29 2004 at 4:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I play a bard and I couldn't honestly see myself putting in a bid for this. I would rather see this item go to someone in my guild who will put it to much better use. I don't know which songs you are talking about that at the higher end mezzes use manna. My 62 mez uses absolutely no manna and when I get to 64 that one won't either. Come to think of it I don't remember any of my mez songs taking manna /shrug. Maybe you are thinking of charm.

Edited, Thu Jan 29 04:34:28 2004
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RE: beastlord
# Feb 01 2004 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Bard mezzes don't take mana but Fading Memories (bard AA - FD clone) takes 900 mana!

900 is a lot. And Fade is an enormously powerful tool. FT5 regens 50 mana a minute. That can cut down *most* bard's re-use time so dramatically it is worth every single DKP I will spend, x1000.
RE: beastlord
# Feb 08 2004 at 9:49 PM Rating: Default
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would be very nice for all classes...
beastlord
# Jan 05 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
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Edited, Mon Jan 5 14:25:45 2004
#monkeyblood, Posted: Jan 05 2004 at 10:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is the best beastlord tunic in the game, noone should ever have the chance on it over a beastlord. this is not an opinion, just the way things should be
#YoshMunkeyfoot, Posted: Dec 23 2003 at 7:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thankfully, this seems to be quite a common drop from the event, out of 5 kills it's dropped twice.
Rangers
# Dec 10 2003 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
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I would Kill for this. Would increase the damage output of a Ranger by a ton. EQ/AM3 with more Nukes/DOTs. Something to dream about.
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# Oct 15 2003 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, a complete rundown on Bardic mana usage follows. First note that Bards do not regenerate mana normally, nor do mana song or spells affect us. Without flowing thought or mental clarity AAs, we can only sit and regenerate mana at a rate of 2 per tick. The uses of bard mana:

1. Charm. Bard charms at 39+ cost mana; an exceptionally large amount for the amount of mana we have, and for our regen rate. However, that alone is not sufficient reason to lotto on this, as it gets used only sometimes in exp groups and soloing.

2. Denon's Desperate Dirge. AE nuke costing way too much mana and doing way too little damage. Effectively worthless, nobody actually USES it.

3. Fading Memories. The best bard AA skill; it is essentially feign death without error, costing 900 mana.

Fading Memories is widely used by Bards to pull on raids; without sufficient flowing thought it is impossible to use it effectively, however. It is EXTREMELY difficult to find FT items as a Bard (though admittably less so with LDON and FT augments).
#phsylence, Posted: Nov 28 2003 at 8:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) who cares about bards anyway =)
#WolfReaver, Posted: Sep 19 2003 at 8:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Fri Sep 19 09:00:50 2003
Tunic Look
# May 02 2003 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The burrower tunic is a black leather-loot item; got one last night.
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Bards and Mana
# Jan 05 2003 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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bards use mana to charm nothing but FT and AA skills help them regen mana faster not even their own songs

Edited, Sun Jan 5 22:41:19 2003
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