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Philosopher's Stone  

This item can be used in tradeskills.
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
Skill Mod: Alchemy +10% (30 Max)
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: SHM
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Misc
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 03:48:10
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin

Average Price: 535,000pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: No Longer Dropped
Level to Attain: 55

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Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Grieg's End

[Editor's note: In America, this is called the Sorcerer's Stone.]

Uploaded November 27th, 2008
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# Aug 14 2013 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
13 posts
Looking to buy one of these on Bristlebane, please pm me your price.
Want To Buy...
# Oct 30 2011 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
691 posts
Buying one of these on Cazic-Thule, paying plat - PM me or contact in-game.
Drop Info
# Feb 09 2008 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
263 posts
This item still drops off of Alchemist Valrona in Grieg's End on Al'kabor.
# Oct 23 2006 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
72 posts
I have one available for sale on Drinal. If interested, please send an in game tell to Anoirra or email me at with your genuine offers. Will endeavour to get back to you within 24 hours.
No Longer Drops
# Jun 11 2004 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
After the revamp of Grieg's End, this item no longer drops.
RE: No Longer Drops
# Aug 18 2004 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
doh :(
Philosopher's Stone~
# Dec 15 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
Ok. i have spent numerous evenings in Greg's End trying to find the alchemist that drops this... she has never spawned in the location listed so we tried tracking her with a druid... still nothing. Is there a secret trick? Something specific you have to kill to get the Alchemist to spawn? i feel as if we have killed everything in the zone on several cylces and she is becoming a myth to me. Any suggestions on how to obtain this stone would be greatly appreciated!!
Karily Ncheese
Brell Serelis
#Haggr, Posted: Sep 28 2002 at 5:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh the hell with it Verant out chicken McNuggets in the game along with a Whopper. The chicken McNuggets can give you a 50% chance to no get feared from dragons like Vox or Fay. The Whopper can be a 2 handed mega meal that has to be equipted to eat, requires main slot and secondary be empty. Flame Away hehehe
for all the misconceptions
# Sep 12 2002 at 2:48 AM Rating: Good
This stone drops of alchemist valorian in griegs end and NO it isnt no rent as the picture clearly shows you but if you would read you would know that. I am just curious if anyone know what this thing is worth it took myself and the rest of a group of 60's 10 minutes to drop this thing it has massive HP
RE: for all the misconceptions
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
This stone is worth as much as you can get out of it. ( I know that is vague, but it varies.) It is one of two items that grant an alchemy skill greater than 5%, and is the ONLY droppable one of the sort, this it is very nice loot for an alchemist. I only paid a few thousand pp for mine, but I would have gladly paid 20k. This stone will reduce failures on expensive potions like gate and the end of an alchemists career. Also, with the new discord expansion, we are seeing that the 200+ trivial potions are actually having a trivial of 228 or so, which means that the high you can get over that 200 skill soft cap the better ( you will be having a lot more success with a 230ish trivial potion if your modified skill is 220 rather than only 200.)
RE: for all the misconceptions
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Alchemist Valrona - Grieg's End
# Jul 26 2002 at 5:25 PM Rating: Excellent
56 posts
Alchemist Valrona - approximately 20K HPs and Massive Regen. HPs are hard to estimate due to the regeneration. Doubles in the mid-100s.

We entered the zone from the Dawnshroud side... had a druid tracking her. Finally found her in a laboratory room - potions bottles, etc. on workbenches - at LOC N50, P2425.

We pulled her outside to the large, long room. We got one add that we kept mezzed during the fight.

Fight took about 5 minutes with:
59 Paladin
53 Warrior
52 Warrior
53 Monk
51 Druid
50 Rogue
56 Shaman
56 Cleric
50 Cleric
52 Enchanter

Loaded her up with shaman epic DoT and disease DoTs. Poison DoTs wouldn't stick - even after Malosi. She was slowed with Turgur's - didn't try before Tash and Malosi, though. Chain nuked with JBB (hit for max after Malosi every time).

Druid said she dotted him, as well.

All in all - the damage she dealt was minimal - especially after the slow hit her. You really do need to plan on having the DPS or I could see where this would be a LOOOONNNNGGGG fight.

She dropped the Philosopher's Stone, which is what we were killing her for in the first place. :)
RE: Alchemist Valrona - Grieg's End
# Dec 11 2003 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
excellent post ugzug, thank you for posting such valuable information that ussually is left out.=)
From mob?
# Apr 09 2002 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
what mob does this drop off of?
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 17 2001 at 11:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can turn lead into gold.
RE: IRL P Stone
# Jan 12 2004 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
For those wondering, no... fusion of heavy metals is not this trivial. It takes a massive amount of energy, and very controled coditions. If the words "the crap out of" occur in your description of the process, I'm gomma guess you need a reality check ;-)
#gracedigger, Posted: Dec 17 2001 at 12:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why cant you lot turn Lead to Gold???, I already walk on water no probs, my last birthday was my 468,546,419,121th, the stone is real BTW and it works, yes you can read minds (bah ok be like that, but i can ), I glow in the dark with divine light (saves on electric, created that too, called it lightning), i just dont understand, maybe your all not trying hard enough???
No Rent???...
# Dec 16 2001 at 12:05 PM Rating: Default
Yes...look above...
"Level to attain: N/A"
means it can be purchased or summoned...its not a drop...
RE: No Rent???...
# Dec 16 2001 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
it could be a drop, jus no one posted what level yet, and they would've put bought in stores on it, n00b
# Dec 16 2001 at 4:01 AM Rating: Decent
I am willing to bet it is a quest item since it is No drop,... wonder if it is next step in Shaman Epic, remember all you Heyokah recieved a broken arrow in Eruds Crossing ??? well I was told by a bird it would come into play soon...
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
This has nothing to do with the shaman epic, it is from Luclin, not Kunark era and drops off the Alchemist in Grieg's End. The 'a broken arrow' we are receieved is a dead end quest.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2001 at 3:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) is also an item in an old rpg whose name I'm not sure I can say on this page, but you cracked it open and it turned lead into gold
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 6:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMFG!!! Harry Potter is a childish book with no realizational concept of magic. It has no epic story line, No true life threatening adventure. It's nothing more than a childs picture book, and what sickens me is that all you adults are reading this book. Its unfathomable for me to even concieve people reading a childish book that has no true storyline to it. Try reading the Riftwar saga or Shanara sometime those are real books with real ADULT adventure. Not this childish nonsense about little boys and how they go to wizard school.
OK Forget the friggin movie!
# Dec 15 2001 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
Now in line with the item from this game called everquest, this is a nice little piece for shamans who do alch. I myself spent 300p for 7 skill points, 30 to 37, and this probably would have cut my costs done by helping me not fail so much! For some reason known only to themselves, the great gods of Everquest decided to give shamans something like a 50% fail rate on trival potions. Add that into the insane prices per attempt and you have why sow potions cost so much.

Now to go off topic. Harry Potter is nothing more then a well-written kiddie book. If you want good writing AND a solid adventure with real action, stop posting about a kiddie book and read some Dragonlance or if your really adventurious read some of the adventures of Drizzit (I don't have a book handy so I probably spelled that wrong, could be worse I guess I could try R.A's last name ;)).
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 17 2001 at 1:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dragonlance?......hehe...hehe....hehe....good writing?....hehe....hehe.....hehe.....even as a nerd RPG'er I still know good writing, and just because your pimples keep you from getting a date, and you retreat to Dungeons and Dragons, it doesn't mean that anything with a fantasy-based theme is good writing.....hehe....hehe....just can't stop laughing......Tolkien is just about the only guy who ever did fantasy any justice. People like Terry Brooks and Ray Feist just ripped him off. Oh, and by the way, ol' John Ronald Reuel did it way back in the '30's, when it wasn't hip or cool.
RE: OK Forget the friggin movie!
# Apr 28 2002 at 12:46 PM Rating: Default
Dragonlance may not be classic literature, but it's not bad. Many of the elements Tolkien used in his books he borrowed from Germanic legends such as Beowulf. Saying that every fantasy author "ripped" Tolkien off is like saying that anyone who has written a spy story is ripping off James Finnemore Cooper. There are many good examples of current fantasy literature around. R.A. Salvatore's Dark Elf trilogy is a good example as is, Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth and Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 9:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh one problem. The Harry Potter stone is called the sorcreor's stone, not the philosopher's. Verant couldn't have stolen this name anyway since the P's Stone may be a real artifact.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 10:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Harry Potter stone is only called The Sorceror's Stone in the USA, the correct and original title is the Philosopher's Stone.
Philosopher's Stone
# Dec 15 2001 at 4:44 AM Rating: Default
16 posts
Yeah, sorry narfk. The Philosopher's Stone has been around long before JK Rowling. The myth is that since lead and gold are so closely related (only one proton apart), alchemists believed that there existed some compound that would porduce gold when mixed with lead. Alchemy was more of a philosophy than a science (hence Philosopher's Stone and not Alchemist's Stone) and they believed that this compound could only be created by one who was truly enlightened. Another perk of this stage of enlightenment was immortality. So the stone itself was not actually believed to grant everlasting life (although my roommate over my shoulder is telling me that it was supposed to be mixed with water to create the elixer of life, so maybe my info isn't entirely accurate). Although a villain only looking for an *** load of gold would hardly make a worth adversary for that little brittish fop of a wizard so I can see why JK Rowling added in that immortality part about the stone.
And that's another ten minutes I didn't spend studying. Back to the books. later
RE: Philosopher's Stone
# Dec 16 2001 at 11:55 AM Rating: Default
Your roommate is entirely correct, according to the myth it was supposed to create the elixir of life when mixed with water, which would then have to be re-dosed regularly (about once every 500-1000 years) to perpetuate the immortality effect. =)

As you can see, I have way too much time on my hands...
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 12:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) in response to the comment debating between the Harry Potter connection to this item and the title change between UK and the US release of the book and movie "They are trying for the untapped market stirred up by the controversy of having the name 'Sorcerer' in the title, probably. I can't see as many churches getting upset about 'philosophy' as they do about 'sorcery'." ...Look up Hypatia (sp) sometime, and you'll see the churches real attitude towards the original philosophers. she was a student of Pythagoras (sp) and went on to teach. Some priests caught her in the streets and denounced her as a heathen and blasphemer, killing her on the spot...and then dragging her body into the church where they then proceeded to mutilate the body with broken tiles from the church floor.. so before speaking of controversy between things such as "sorcerer" and "philosopher" you might want to do a bit of a history lesson. Events such as the crusades and the spanish inquisition stemmed from the same attitude people of the church had in those times that sealed Hypatia's fate.
RE: .....
# Feb 01 2003 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
I think it has more to do with the fact that they don't believe American kids will be able to spell or pronounce "Philosopher".
RE: .....
# Dec 15 2001 at 8:14 AM Rating: Default
nobody expects the inquisition!
You can buy the philosipher stone!
# Dec 15 2001 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
Hi everyone! Wow i was amazed to see that the philosipher stone was in EQ... And NO mr. Potter, you are extraordinarly wrong about Verant copying Harry Potter. The stone is... well... supposedly real. Theres this weird site on the net called and they sell it! here is their description:

Philosophers Stone
Also known as White-Powder-Gold or 'Mana' or the elixer of life. Discoverer David
Hudson spoke in a lecture.."First of all it is a room temperature superconductor"! "When mixed with water it forms a gelatinous mixture. When ingested it has the following affects. Every cell in your body will be taken back to the state it is supposed to be, when you were a teenager or a child. It perfects the DNA, and closes the light within the body until you literally reach a point where the light body exceeds the physical body." "The gifts that go with this are perfect telepathy, you can know good and evil when it is in the room with you, you can project your thoughts into someone else's mind, you can levitate, you can walk on water, because it is flowing so much light in you, you literally don't attract to gravity."

So there you go. Thats why im not going to get a car, im just going to buy this "white gold powder" (probably cocaine) and fly to school. check out the site if you dont beleive me hehe and if your curious enough to order it tell me what it really is :-D

Ukiuq Quangijaut
lvl 40 iksar shadow knight
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2001 at 12:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yar this is freaking hillarious :)
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 1:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hahahaha! they call that bong water where i am from.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2001 at 9:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if i was that babe that created harry potter id sue Verant, they DESERVE IT! im f*cking pissed that i went LD while looting my body in hell level and i cant log back. BTW im canadian and i read the book and its harry potter and the philosopher`s stone not sorcerer, plus i saw movie in English AND french and they always talk about the PHILOSOPHER:S STONE, even in the movie when Hermione shows harry and ron the book where she found out about Nicholas Flamel, we can easily see that its written in that book: Nicholas Flamel, the owner of the last philosopher`s stone... bla bla bla etc. SO GET BENT VERANT! You,re lucky J.K. Rowling isnt playing EQ cause she would be so pissed off to always have to download your FRICKIN patches that she would sue you about this item not cause she wants money but cause shes really pissed like all of us who HATE VERANT!
RE: harry potter
# Dec 15 2001 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
Instead of Counter-Flaming this one, let's just rate it to get this crap pulled off the forum.

If Narfk wants to act like a infant, let's remain adults and remove the problem not feed it.

I think it's very cool that they have items that enhance skills now. And I think that with this expansion they have done a fine job so far. Anyone that disagrees, go make your own game if you can do better. Leave the people that enjoy EQ alone.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2001 at 10:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 3 mistakes:
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2001 at 10:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 3 mistakes:
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2001 at 10:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 3 mistakes:
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 12:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK thats it you dont diss Canada you ******* Flamer... Canada kicks *** compared to the peace of **** coutry you came from!
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 16 2001 at 3:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) careful dude, in case you haven't noticed, we kill people in America for calling our country a piece of ****
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 6:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Mon Jan 30 02:52:45 2006
RE: harry potter
# Dec 14 2001 at 11:57 PM Rating: Default
Ok, that "Being Canadian. Go back to your "bacon" and your "hockey"" comment. Wasnt that kind of harsh? I know that guy is over reacting, but to say something like that? Theres more Canadians reading that comment than you may think....

(Note: Heh, if your American, no wonder you're making rude comments towards Canadians =P)
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 15 2001 at 6:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Please inflamatory comments like that do not help. You do not need to respond in kind to the moron who started this string.
RE: harry potter
# Dec 14 2001 at 10:16 PM Rating: Default
You are so "bent" it's rediculous.

The words "Philosopher's Stone" and an item being called a "Philosopher's Stone" are clearly "Public Domain".

From another person's post: "The Philosopher's Stone originated with the ancient practice of Alchemy. It was a magical substance (a catalyst, if you will) that could turn base metals into gold, cure all your ills, and allowed the person that held it to be immortal."
Alchemist Val
# Dec 14 2001 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
If you look closely at the pic, you can clearly see "Alchemist Val's corpse" in the background.

So... I'm going to go out on a limb and say this drops from Alchemist Val, being an Alchemy enhancing item and all ;)
RE: Alchemist Val
# Dec 14 2001 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
well spotted, didn't notice that till i read your post. possible 'val' isn't full name though, gets cut off sometime's on corpses (a gnoll comm's corpse for example instead of commander.)
# Dec 14 2001 at 5:19 PM Rating: Default
notice that it is secondary and thus can be used together with the tinkered item that gives 5%
RE: secondary
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
Tradeskill modifiers do not stack. Consider the potential combo in smithing of Hammer of the Ironfrost (PRIMARY 15%) Massive Girdle of the Forge (WAIST 10%) Grandmaster Trophy (RANGE, SECONDARY, PRIMARY, AMMO 5%.) A 30% smithing mod would be quite the force, but alas, like Haste (worn) the superior skill comes out on top, this claim will be backed up with the new UI that shows your modified skill at the top of the tradeskill window.
no rent?
# Dec 14 2001 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
I wonder if the no rent thing is a mistake...
RE: no rent?
# Dec 14 2001 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
Either it's a mistake or these things drop like rusty spears off of crushbone orcs. Anyone have any insight on drop rate?

(Please note that the rarity of "common" does not necessarily mean that it is a common drop, but rather that the drop rate may be unknown)
RE: no rent?
# Dec 14 2001 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
Well, my group was killing stuff around the zone in from Scarlet Desert for a good hour or two and didn't see these drop once. We were mostly killing Dark Visions, so it might be a drop off another mob near the other zone in from Dawnshroud.
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