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Shadows of Luclin
12 posts
But he still drops it.
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I just picked this up with my 58 Ranger, and I love it! If you look at the face items that I can get in the bazaar (for outrageous prices) that compare to this item, they don't even come close. Sure, there are plenty of nodrops out there that I can get that blow this item out of the water! However, for the level that I'm at, it's fantastic. I Love it already.
One question, though. It says here that this is a rare drop. Anyone know what kind of frequency it drops?
Haggzor
58 Ranger of Terris-Thule
HORDE OF STEELE!
One question, though. It says here that this is a rare drop. Anyone know what kind of frequency it drops?
Haggzor
58 Ranger of Terris-Thule
HORDE OF STEELE!
49 posts
In reality, if you're in a raiding guild and they're smart, none of these posts matter anyway.
If the clerics don't have FT 2 or better in their neck slot, most often times it's going to them by default. If your raid/guild leaders are smart.
Any raiding guild wants their clerics to have as much mana regen as possible in order to further their raiding abilities. Then on to other classes.
No you're not hearing this from a Cleric. You're hearing it from a Necro who would love to have it too.
It's not a matter of fairness. It's a matter of knowing what is going to get you and your guild further in the game. Sometimes you have to NOT roll on something to help the guild out. If you can't or won't do that. You're not helping your guild at all IMO.
If the clerics don't have FT 2 or better in their neck slot, most often times it's going to them by default. If your raid/guild leaders are smart.
Any raiding guild wants their clerics to have as much mana regen as possible in order to further their raiding abilities. Then on to other classes.
No you're not hearing this from a Cleric. You're hearing it from a Necro who would love to have it too.
It's not a matter of fairness. It's a matter of knowing what is going to get you and your guild further in the game. Sometimes you have to NOT roll on something to help the guild out. If you can't or won't do that. You're not helping your guild at all IMO.
49 posts
Most raiding guilds use DKP and do not default FT items to clerics. If a cleric wants it they have to bid against the other classes who want it.
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Posted: Sep 09 2003 at 4:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Sun Feb 29 22:11:03 2004
39 posts
I want it for my pally!
Really nice mask.i wish i can raid against The Itraer Vius
Really nice mask.i wish i can raid against The Itraer Vius
ok let the flames begin..looking through what this guy has he drops 2 types of items for mana regen..one for pure casters with FT2 and one for all classes with FT2..now im sorry to say but if when i get on a raid for this guy my SK will be one of the first in line to say im in for the drop..sure yah, all casters want mana, but some of us tank types actually use mana too quite a bit and dont have pocket chanter..id like to see some of these mana items start going to the multiclassed guys and gals out there..after all, verant is starting to put out uber gear with tank stats out for those casters to boost there ac and other non prime stats..why not something like this for tank/caster class..just my 2cp
Edited, Sun Jan 27 16:05:02 2002
Edited, Sun Jan 27 16:05:02 2002
Sounds good to me. And I AM the pocket Chanter.
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Posted: Jan 08 2002 at 12:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I read all the threads below and Im on this thought wave . THIS IS A MANA REGEN ITEM. Thats what it should be used for there are a ton of ac items and resist items out there probable better but there are few mana regen for those druids that wish constantly for clarity or vreeze this is that item pure and simple. Glad to see it in game and hope I can figure iut a tactic to get it .
I'm sorry but the post above is not entirely accurate. I am a ranger and in my search for good AC gear I did a quick search on face slot/ranger/wood elf using AC as the only point of reference. Low and behold there are a whopping 6 items on that list that give better AC. Six... not nearly a ton if you ask me. This item would be great for rangers. I recently hit 50 and i spend a great deal of mana keeping up the Ranger buffs that stack with the cleric/druid buffs, and these do drain quite a bit of my mana, not to mention snaring/flame lick/rooting mobs on a very regular basis or keeping up my self buffs, and in a chain pulling group or just DT in KC I never have a single chance to sit down and get some mana back for the next round of buffs. Now as I started off saying this is a great piece of AC gear for a Ranger, and while the SK/Pallys out there might have some nice face slot AC items I know that I for one would wear this on a regular basis when either grouping/soloing/raiding. Not a flame and excuse the bad grammatical skills as it is way past my bedtime, but just a little info to the ill informed.
What are you on, this item sucks for rangers, barring resists...FT II? Big whoop. Meh, gimme vengeance any day.
he also drops this i sent the post in a week ago but it has not been posted yet:(
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Only one reason I would rather see this go to casters rather than hybrids, particularly SKs and Palies... They have at least three items off of lower level or similar mobs with FT 2 or higher on them, that are SK/Paly /only/.
As for people who say that breeze won't do much? 2 mana/tick is better than 0, and it stacks with GoB, which is 3 mana/tick, and c2, which is 11 mana/tick, and likely any and all of the self-regen spells casters are getting with Luclin. 2 mana/tick can come in very handy.
Ainyan Dreamweaver
60th Phantasmist
Blades of Wrath - Torvonnilous
As for people who say that breeze won't do much? 2 mana/tick is better than 0, and it stacks with GoB, which is 3 mana/tick, and c2, which is 11 mana/tick, and likely any and all of the self-regen spells casters are getting with Luclin. 2 mana/tick can come in very handy.
Ainyan Dreamweaver
60th Phantasmist
Blades of Wrath - Torvonnilous
Just for the record GoB is 2 per tick, not 3. GoI is 1, GoM 0.
Nods
Nods
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Posted: Dec 11 2001 at 12:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WTF DROPS THIS THING! Info please!? This site is for INFO not f@ck!ng squablles over different classes and pvp. STFU unless u have info thx.
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Posted: Dec 11 2001 at 12:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I just have to say it ciz every moron that says a item with .01 Wt is a monk item so "Man This Is Sutch A Monk Item!!" heheheh i am monk lvl 53 this thing has Nice AC but this is a caster hybred item but it has flowing thought II and thats a a waste on a monk during a raid who would benfit more a monk or a caster Hybred? well and one that play the high end game and answer that one eazy
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Posted: Jan 25 2002 at 10:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually, this is not geared towards anyone. I know few enchanters that would drool over this. Its very nice. This thing is like the Eathereal Earring - 20 AC, 8 eis / int, 15 sv magic. Its all all, who would make best use of it? Anyone that can use it. Yes, the AC is great, but the int / wis is great too. Kinda a damned if you do damned if you don't situation.
Umm, heh... yeah, but monks can't even WEAR this, so it seems that in this instance your thoughts are also those of the entire Verant creative team.
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Its so funny to see melee types saying that this item is also good for them cos of the saves and ac.
Thats like a caster or priest saying that on a nbg basis they should get equal treatment when a runebranded girdle drops because of the stats.
Melees this is a caster/priest item. We dont expect to get a hsate item, why are you so greedy.
Thats like a caster or priest saying that on a nbg basis they should get equal treatment when a runebranded girdle drops because of the stats.
Melees this is a caster/priest item. We dont expect to get a hsate item, why are you so greedy.
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Posted: Jan 30 2002 at 1:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The reason you give tanks the AC is because the more AC the main tank has the more mana efficent the entire group is. Simple as that.
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Posted: Dec 13 2001 at 4:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because, fool, if you want your Hybrid MA to keep in the game longer We are going to need mana regen too. We don't have the luxuray of sitting on our duffs.
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Posted: Dec 24 2001 at 12:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Don't be ridiculous. A shadowknight's mana is more important than a cleric's, because that way he can chain lifetap for a whopping 80 hitpoint heal every 4 seconds? Are you really using that as your argument?
Personally, I'd pass on this item in favor of a caster getting it since I'd most likely use it only when soloing or when I need the resists. However, saying that hybrids shouldn't have a chance at it since their mana isn't important is a bit, um, let's say hasty. SKs and Pallies cast more than just about any class during a battle. Between lifetaps, stuns, debuffs, dots, roots, snares, group heals (at higher levels to ease up on the cleric), and maybe the occasional DD or Yaulp, they can go through mana pretty quick. Sure, C/C2/C3 can help keep their mana up, but what about when soloing or without a chanter? And let's not forget Rangers. I routinely use quite a bit of mana during battles for snares, roots (ghetto mez), Jolt and DD, and also for buffs. Why should I not have a chance at this item simply because I don't rely on my mana as much as a cleric does? I don't have the luxury of medding during battle, and quite often I spend most of my time on my feet fighting and pulling. The extra 2/tic mana could go a long way in keeping me pulling instead of medding. Not to mention that the HP and mana are useful for everyone, including hybrids. And the saves are pretty impressive for a single piece.
The ShadowKnight has an ******* of disease/debuff taunt spells to get a mob's attention... At some points, I can out taunt a Warrior 2-3 levels higher than me when I need to... who would you rather have taunt... the Warrior with his last bit of life left, the full hp ShadowKnight, or better yet, the Cleric...
Paladins are a melee with stun... good to have that extra mana to stun a mob trying to CH itself... and yes, Clerics may have better stuns, but they have tons more mana than the Paladin, and 2 stuns is better than 1...
By the way, the lifetap argument makes a lot of sense... 1 minute battle, let's say 8 lifetaps, that's 640 hps... plus the quest lifetap, that's (i believe 180 more hps) that's over 800 hps during a battle if needed... and that my friend could be the difference between life and death of a group... may not happen ALL the time, but good to know it's possible.
HOWEVER, I'd still let the caster classes take this, out of respect for their class... but that doesn't mean a person shouldn't be able to get it if they really wanted it.
Edited, Tue Feb 5 12:47:56 2002
Paladins are a melee with stun... good to have that extra mana to stun a mob trying to CH itself... and yes, Clerics may have better stuns, but they have tons more mana than the Paladin, and 2 stuns is better than 1...
By the way, the lifetap argument makes a lot of sense... 1 minute battle, let's say 8 lifetaps, that's 640 hps... plus the quest lifetap, that's (i believe 180 more hps) that's over 800 hps during a battle if needed... and that my friend could be the difference between life and death of a group... may not happen ALL the time, but good to know it's possible.
HOWEVER, I'd still let the caster classes take this, out of respect for their class... but that doesn't mean a person shouldn't be able to get it if they really wanted it.
Edited, Tue Feb 5 12:47:56 2002
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
Don't forget how c2 doesn't stick to hybrids and they get twice the mana of every other caster/priest class.
Sk and pallie group heals help everyone particularly when we crit with them, and every caster can appreciate an additional influx of 100 mana every minute or so. Also mana for the hybrids means keeping raging mobs off the casters, and prevent those pesky mobs from running away. The resists are nice as well. Often your hybrids get the wonderous job of pulling, MAing snaring leaving little time for *** sitting for that bonus mana regen. Or being within range of bard mana songs, so plz remember your hybrid friends need loving too.
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Posted: Dec 11 2001 at 9:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) huh nuh no way budee i no a lvl 60 cleric who he has a cof an he won it on a naggy raid so i c casters with equip becuz it is good 4 them 4 stats so this has stats good 4 me and it wood r0xx0rz to have this phat lewt on my munk
17 posts
Whatever language that was, my skill must be too low for it.
I keep reading how hybrids wan't the stats more than the mana regen, or how this would be given first dibs to the casters, and how mana is just icing on the cake for us.
Perhaps I'm unique then. AC is a great thing. Don't get me wrong. But I'd give AC up in a heartbeat for flowing thought items. I'm already trading out AC for more wisdom/mana items.
Why? Because I'm a caster. Sure... I wear plate mail, and I've got this axe for putting a hurt on evil... but I'm a caster. That's what I do. I don't kill mobs... I keep their attention while the wizard kills the mobs. I keep them off the cleric while she heals us. I pull them off the chanter so they can be remezed.
My only job in life is taunt. That's what I do. And to do it, I cast. At 50, I can out taunt a 59 warrior. And that's only giving it a half ***** job. If I really wanted it, I could (and have) out taunted a 59 ranger. I throw stuns, roots, a nuke, anything and everything to do the magical version of saying "Hey! Your mama was ugly and your daddy was blind! Hit me!"
And when all is said and done... I take longer to med than the wizard who did the real nuking.
So don't give me this "The mana and manaregen is just icing". The reason we hybrids are on that list is because we can use it. All of it. Same as the casters. You keep that in mind when you decide who gets to roll. We can ALL use it. I know chanters who would sell their teeth for the AC. Me? I'd kill for the mana regen. And the next time you see me, feel free to challange me to a taunt-off. I'll show you why our wizard can spend as much mana as he wants as fast as he wants.
Shadus MacAoidh
50th level paladin
Keeper of the Faith, Defender of the Weak, Holder of the Aggro
Edited, Mon Dec 10 13:53:12 2001
Perhaps I'm unique then. AC is a great thing. Don't get me wrong. But I'd give AC up in a heartbeat for flowing thought items. I'm already trading out AC for more wisdom/mana items.
Why? Because I'm a caster. Sure... I wear plate mail, and I've got this axe for putting a hurt on evil... but I'm a caster. That's what I do. I don't kill mobs... I keep their attention while the wizard kills the mobs. I keep them off the cleric while she heals us. I pull them off the chanter so they can be remezed.
My only job in life is taunt. That's what I do. And to do it, I cast. At 50, I can out taunt a 59 warrior. And that's only giving it a half ***** job. If I really wanted it, I could (and have) out taunted a 59 ranger. I throw stuns, roots, a nuke, anything and everything to do the magical version of saying "Hey! Your mama was ugly and your daddy was blind! Hit me!"
And when all is said and done... I take longer to med than the wizard who did the real nuking.
So don't give me this "The mana and manaregen is just icing". The reason we hybrids are on that list is because we can use it. All of it. Same as the casters. You keep that in mind when you decide who gets to roll. We can ALL use it. I know chanters who would sell their teeth for the AC. Me? I'd kill for the mana regen. And the next time you see me, feel free to challange me to a taunt-off. I'll show you why our wizard can spend as much mana as he wants as fast as he wants.
Shadus MacAoidh
50th level paladin
Keeper of the Faith, Defender of the Weak, Holder of the Aggro
Edited, Mon Dec 10 13:53:12 2001
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That is nice Pally boy, but get back to me when you can out taunt a 60 warior with epic/serrated dragon tooth, and not use the attack button at all ;P
Tyna Angelica
57 Conjurer of Quellious
PS: if you really need FT that bad get the tenth ring and protect all the generals (helm with FT3)
Tyna Angelica
57 Conjurer of Quellious
PS: if you really need FT that bad get the tenth ring and protect all the generals (helm with FT3)
29 posts
no hes not unique, im a 65 shaman, I can pull taunt off a warrior with ANY weapon, epic'd or not, for that matter i can pull it off a pally if i wish to waste the mana
nough said
nough said
Amen and Hallelujah Brother!
Even if'n I come from the other side of the ideological fence this here is spot-on.
Bluudnitsa, who lusts after this muchly, sitter-upon-the-knee of Cuddles (before whom the rest of you should grovel and call Lord Innoruuk)
Even if'n I come from the other side of the ideological fence this here is spot-on.
Bluudnitsa, who lusts after this muchly, sitter-upon-the-knee of Cuddles (before whom the rest of you should grovel and call Lord Innoruuk)
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Sorry, but there's no way a 50 pally could produce more taunt than a 59 ranger, unless said ranger was afk nuking a burrito.
Root jolting? sure. Out taunting? no. Big difference. Yes, stun is a nice taunt, but quite often in raid situations the stuff you're fighting will resist just about everything you've got, and taunt boils down to who's spanking the mob the fastest.
Anyways, either the ranger wasn't aware he/she was competing in a taunt contest with you, or you were root-jolting.
If you were fighting a mob that the two of you could cast on, and the ranger gets an early snare/immolate+/call of flames+ and using a common as dirt rat whip, there's very little chance *anyone* could get that mob off, including the ranger himself jolting.
Rangers recieved the Jolt line not because exp groups were complaining about spending mana healing rangers, it's because rangers were (and still are) dying left and right due to the taunt created by low delay weapons and spells that generate incredible amounts of taunt for the duration of the fight. The addition of the Jolting Blades spell speaks for itself.
When it comes to taunting a highly MR mob, ranger with rat whip > all. When it comes to taunting a normal mob, anyone with root can jolt it.
As for the mask, pretty much everyone would want one. And hybrids are on the list because they have mana pools, not because they're casters.
Root jolting? sure. Out taunting? no. Big difference. Yes, stun is a nice taunt, but quite often in raid situations the stuff you're fighting will resist just about everything you've got, and taunt boils down to who's spanking the mob the fastest.
Anyways, either the ranger wasn't aware he/she was competing in a taunt contest with you, or you were root-jolting.
If you were fighting a mob that the two of you could cast on, and the ranger gets an early snare/immolate+/call of flames+ and using a common as dirt rat whip, there's very little chance *anyone* could get that mob off, including the ranger himself jolting.
Rangers recieved the Jolt line not because exp groups were complaining about spending mana healing rangers, it's because rangers were (and still are) dying left and right due to the taunt created by low delay weapons and spells that generate incredible amounts of taunt for the duration of the fight. The addition of the Jolting Blades spell speaks for itself.
When it comes to taunting a highly MR mob, ranger with rat whip > all. When it comes to taunting a normal mob, anyone with root can jolt it.
As for the mask, pretty much everyone would want one. And hybrids are on the list because they have mana pools, not because they're casters.
Scholar
46 posts
"And hybrids are on the list because they have mana pools, not because they're casters"
...bards have mana pools, they're not on the list.
...bards have mana pools, they're not on the list.
10 posts
"...bards have mana pools, they're not on the list."
... But they nearly NEVER use it.
... But they nearly NEVER use it.
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Actually that's not acurate. Our lvl 39 improved charm song uses 35 mana, or lvl 43 AoE DD song uses 800 mana. With 47 int (Using a Kobold Jester's Crown, +30 cha, -30 int) and me playing CC in a group I can get lom easily, because our mana songs do not work on the singing bard, but I'd never dream of rolling on this killer item even if we could use it...
That may be true....but has anyone EVER heard a bard say "OOM"? Yes Bards get manna, yes some songs use it....but how many bards use ALL their manna and have to sit down to get it back?
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According to several references I have read Bards are not affected by Flowing Thought, or any other form of mana regen affecting spells, songs, or devices.
PS: I personally think all of the classes listed for this item should be allowed to roll on it.
I note that several of the classes talking about it above (monk, bard) are NOT allowed to wear it, and most sensibly so. Kudos to Verant for avoiding that looting flamefest.
PS: I personally think all of the classes listed for this item should be allowed to roll on it.
I note that several of the classes talking about it above (monk, bard) are NOT allowed to wear it, and most sensibly so. Kudos to Verant for avoiding that looting flamefest.
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Posted: Dec 10 2001 at 9:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hay this wood be so great for my war look at teh saves and hps why can't wars where this??!! and my rouge wood like it too!!!!!! and good ac
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Posted: Dec 10 2001 at 7:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Anyone got usefull info on the mob of wich this comes from. As much as i loooooove to read 50 pages of idiots debating the items goodness, usefull info would be better.
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Anyone got any useful info? Like not if it's good or not, of course it is, but something that will help us all get it? Where's it drop, loc, what mob etc.. Thanks
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Posted: Dec 09 2001 at 6:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) for love of god, everquest is going haywire..dont get me wrong i still love to play eq, just need eq staff to hurrya dn help me with some glithc probs(damn patch...) i cant imagien teh HUGE deal this brings to pvp, for love of god, this is almsot one of the best itemsd i have ever seen for resist and all thatr..huge ac, plus a phat dose of resists? coem on now verant, things are getting out of control, maybe you have a sticky keyboard thats it? or after all those numbers you want to mess with our heads adn add jsut 1 extra zero..geez, my cp
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Posted: Dec 10 2001 at 12:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ice Comet bane..... Enchanters can still tash away 8( no poison resist.
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Posted: Dec 10 2001 at 9:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Here's a hint....wizards don't use IC in pvp...way slow cast time and easily resistable. They use Solist's mostly, which can sometimes hit for me at full with 150 cold resist. And you CANNOT resist tash, no matter if you have 250 poison resist :P
Has anyone else noticed that this would be perfect (as in I can't think of better offhand) for a hybrid? 15ac flat OWNS for a face piece and 25hp never hurt a tank either. On top of that, you get huge resists (very important to tanks) and the mana and manaregeneration is icing on the cake. I havent played other hybrids very much but I know that as a SK I still solo extensively in my 40's and dont expect that to change much (though I group when I can, that simply isnt feasable or practical at times) and when you are fear kiting, mana is the main thing that you spend, I often come out of a fight nearly full health but nearly OOM as well. Not that casters wouldnt benefit too but it seems perfect for hybrids aswell.
To a caster, the FT2 is prolly the focus of this item. The stats are damn nice to go along with that, but FT is the big thing. To a hybrid, the stats are the focus, while the FT2 is the bonus. As for who can get the biggest use out of it? In MOST ideal situations, the hybrids. Now, out of the casters, a chanter would benefit the most from the AC and HP, followed closely by a cleric I'd guess. And let's not forget that every bit of HP helps the Shammy/Necro with HP to mana conversions. It's really a close call as to "who" this item is best for, (IE who would benefit the most from all the stats on the item)but I think that anyone who can use it would love to have one, and in a CAWU group they should all have a crack at it. =)
Jarochai Alabaster
Dwarven Cleric
Officer of Laramie Circle
Brell Server
Jarochai Alabaster
Dwarven Cleric
Officer of Laramie Circle
Brell Server
A flowing thought II item would probably never go straight to a hybrid, although you're right about it being awesome.
Guilds would most likely let Clerics, Necros, Wizards, and Mages have a crack at it.
Guilds would most likely let Clerics, Necros, Wizards, and Mages have a crack at it.
Forget stats. I'd be strapping this thing on my face every time I had to meditate. Period.
And I'm a shadowknight.
And I'm a shadowknight.
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with all the INT/WIS items comming out, and the bump up of the 200 mana cap, casters are gonna have a huge amount of mana to regen....Then this little item with decent AC, killer resist adds, and that little ole effect (not to mention some bonus hp and mana)!! Wow.....just plain Wow!
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Posted: Dec 08 2001 at 3:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Umm you are afraid to remove a mask to loose a few wisdom points? But wouldnt the mana regen compensate? I wear a mask of war that is even nicer than your veil and believe me for a few wisdom points i would take this. hell swap it out even, when your sitting medding wear it then sitch back but 15 ac, nice resists and FT2 id kill a gnome for it.
I'd kill a gnome just because it makes me happy
20 posts
Woot! Pantera! ;p
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Posted: Dec 09 2001 at 12:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'd kill a gnome for a copper =)
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This is an incredible item. However, for a wisdom caster, at least, it does have one down side. It goes in the face slot, which is the same slot that the Velium Ruby Veil fits in. By using this instead, you'd be losing mana pool size unless you're far too low level to obtain the item. You would, however, gain in mana regeneration rate equivalent to the enchanter spell Breeze.
Another consideration is that compared to the veil you would lose strength. There are a few wisdom items out there that have negative strength modifiers, and the veil makes up for some of those.
Another consideration is that compared to the veil you would lose strength. There are a few wisdom items out there that have negative strength modifiers, and the veil makes up for some of those.
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I highly doubt that any decent cleric would be using a ruby veil when they get this. Besides, the ac/hp/mana/saves more than make up for the loss of a few wisdom imo.
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This is an absolutely killer item ... almost too good if its not more difficult to obtain than what it appears to be. Any other FT item that i can think of is either a result of a quest involving a ton of time and/or very tough fights ... or drops off boss mobs in the planes, sleepers, etc ...
In regards to this 'taking up the slot' of a velium ruby veil ... you really think you wouldn't give up 8wis/str for the gain of constant clarity stackable mana regeneration equivilent to that of breeze? Not to mention an extra 15(base)AC, 25svdisease/cold, and 25hp/mana. If you ask me you'd have to be crazy not to want this unless you already have a FT2 or greater item.
I consider mana regen to be of prime importance to any pure caster (int & wis) ... much much much moreso than the amount of total mana available. Any good caster never runs oom in day to day combat, cleric/shaman/chanter being possible exceptions, as mana consumption should be as equally allocated as possible to each battle. By having faster mana regen it enables you to use larger amounts of mana per battle (resulting in a much greater overall effect) as by the time the next battle comes around you will have gained more mana back than you would have without the additional mana regeneration.
In regards to this 'taking up the slot' of a velium ruby veil ... you really think you wouldn't give up 8wis/str for the gain of constant clarity stackable mana regeneration equivilent to that of breeze? Not to mention an extra 15(base)AC, 25svdisease/cold, and 25hp/mana. If you ask me you'd have to be crazy not to want this unless you already have a FT2 or greater item.
I consider mana regen to be of prime importance to any pure caster (int & wis) ... much much much moreso than the amount of total mana available. Any good caster never runs oom in day to day combat, cleric/shaman/chanter being possible exceptions, as mana consumption should be as equally allocated as possible to each battle. By having faster mana regen it enables you to use larger amounts of mana per battle (resulting in a much greater overall effect) as by the time the next battle comes around you will have gained more mana back than you would have without the additional mana regeneration.
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I'm not saying that you wouldn't want to use the item. Merely that there are tradeoffs. For starters, two mana per tick is equivalent to Breeze, not clarity, and the effect of Breeze is fairly subtle (to say the least) at the level you could obtain this item.
The mana loss for using this item instead of the velium ruby veil is on the order of fifty mana. Could be more, could be less depending on your starting wisdom and the effect of the new rules in Luclin. How that impacts you depends on how you play. Mana regen always sets the pace of your activities, but mana pool size still matters. It takes two and a half minutes for the effect on this item to make up for a reduction of fifty in mana pool size.
Of course, you could wear this item while medding and swap for the veil when you reached full, swapping back after having cast a spell or two. Then you'd get the benefits of both, except for the strength on the veil. That actually gains you the best of both worlds on the AC this item has as well, since that AC will only be needed in a battle... exactly the time when you are least likely to be at full mana.
The mana loss for using this item instead of the velium ruby veil is on the order of fifty mana. Could be more, could be less depending on your starting wisdom and the effect of the new rules in Luclin. How that impacts you depends on how you play. Mana regen always sets the pace of your activities, but mana pool size still matters. It takes two and a half minutes for the effect on this item to make up for a reduction of fifty in mana pool size.
Of course, you could wear this item while medding and swap for the veil when you reached full, swapping back after having cast a spell or two. Then you'd get the benefits of both, except for the strength on the veil. That actually gains you the best of both worlds on the AC this item has as well, since that AC will only be needed in a battle... exactly the time when you are least likely to be at full mana.
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i'd give up my velium ruby for this any ol day of the week. way too many times i'll be soloing there's no way i can get a clarity etc.
specifically anyone who roots: dots: meds would be perfect for...
/shrug
Edited, Mon Dec 10 09:07:31 2001
specifically anyone who roots: dots: meds would be perfect for...
/shrug
Edited, Mon Dec 10 09:07:31 2001
First all most people who would be hunting for this item don;t wear velium ruby viel anymore. I swapped out my viel for polished mithril mask long ago. Over 200 wis 5ac>8str. And my boots weigh 15 and bp 10
The raising on the wis cap does affect a few people now however. I used crystal spider eyes, 8ac 35hp/35 in my face slot. Each wis over 200 is now worth 6 mana at level 60. So With the viel, i would gain 13mana 8 str. Lose 8ac 35hp. Hmm.
I have a FT I item, and I would still get this item if I could. THis is great.
The raising on the wis cap does affect a few people now however. I used crystal spider eyes, 8ac 35hp/35 in my face slot. Each wis over 200 is now worth 6 mana at level 60. So With the viel, i would gain 13mana 8 str. Lose 8ac 35hp. Hmm.
I have a FT I item, and I would still get this item if I could. THis is great.
Don't forget...
It seems like they've removed the "soft cap" of 200 Wis/Int.
I haven't heard if this has been verified yet, but I will probably test it out myself soon enough.
It seems like they've removed the "soft cap" of 200 Wis/Int.
I haven't heard if this has been verified yet, but I will probably test it out myself soon enough.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Dec 08 2001 at 1:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh damn, thats one hell of a mask for any caster that have maxed wis or int, has evrything that it need to have, anyone know what mob drop this? I think thats the first place I'll try to go with a group of friend hehe
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