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Greater Guard of Haste  

AC: 10
STR: +5 DEX: +5 AGI: +5
Haste: +11%
WT: 3.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Merchant Value:20 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Lucy Entry By:unknown
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-11-24 02:58:53
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Shadows of Luclin Item

Average Price: 5,143pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 35

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Mass Agro & AoE
# Apr 27 2005 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
I have killed THOUSANDS of elementals and only seen Aero and Tera once each. I farm the elementals often. Hope this info will help those darned farming druids <like me>

As a 58 druid I will have Virtue / KEI / Regrwoth / form of Howler / Resist Magic / Shield of Thorns / Thorn Coat / see invisible on me. I'll have Upheval and Earthquake loaded, as well as Egress, just incase something goes bad. Apparently the Elementals HATE any kind of wolf form and will automatically agro. pull 10 or 20 at a time and use the "point blank AoE" or even better yet, turn a tank into a wolf and have them pull to you. if you, or the tank you turned into a wolf, is beat on while wearing thorns, a nice shot of "Upheval" should kill most, and the rest will go down with "Earthquake". I farm here for the "Essence of Wind" to make Acrylia Temper and the "Swirling Mist" to make Mithril Temper for high elf smithing.

Brushwood Blayz
58 Druid / Last Requiem
Terris-Thule <soon to be Prexus 5/26/05>
Haste %
# Mar 26 2003 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
RE: Haste %
# Feb 17 2004 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
208 posts
i think these should be cheaper they go for 10k on my server
RE: Haste %
# Jul 10 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Default
Should be 1k... I mean come on, a FBSS is 1.5Kish... So something with -10% haste should be like 1k - if that!
RE: Haste %
# Nov 09 2004 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
FBSS has NO, count them folks....NO OTHER STATS but the haste...........

Over all for the level you will be wearing this at, its not a bad twink item
# Nov 08 2002 at 11:20 AM Rating: Decent
Does this DROP off AERO? even tho almost same name as Lesser Gaurd but does anyone ever seen it drop of him? if you search for lesser gaurd of haste and go to Aero picture, it says he only drops Lesser Gaurd and boots. Maybe this makes sense why its so "rare"

The Truth is out there *

Edited, Fri Nov 8 11:03:02 2002
Greater Guard
# Oct 06 2002 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
22 posts
Okay, must post. You guys, not all of you, but allot are driving me nuts about this and believe me, its a short trip anyhow. I have spent the last 3 weeks every night leveling this island. Thats one level 58 Necro and his monk pet chain killing the complete spawn every fifteen to twenty minutes. Last estimate, I have killed somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 elementals. In return I have gotten 6 Aero Kills would produced 5 lesser guards of Haste and 1 pair of Chromatic boots with nice stats and Haste also. Yes, Aero does have two rare drops. I have killed Inferno 3 times and gotten 3 flaming short swords. I have not gotten his rare drop, the sword of Inferno. I have killed Terra 3 times, for 2 pair of Hardy Pants and I pair of Enduring Pants. Killed Hydro 2 times for 2 belts of growth. I won't even bother with how many of the big ones I killed. Lost track long ago. What usefull information might I add too these threads. First, the Greater Guard is ultra rare, because a rare drop off a rare spawn = ultra rare. If your set on getting this guard like I was when I started, you better be able to chain kill the island for probably weeks and hope for the best, or be very, very lucky. You could probably buy a CoF farming Orcs sooner then you will get this Greater Guard if you can't chain kill the island 12 to 14 hours a day for weeks. There is a bright side though. This island drops some nice stuff for the level of what your killing. The guy below me that took a group of 50's in there to chain kill everything makes me ask one question, which is simply why? If one 58 Necro and his pet can wipe this island easy between spawns, a group? A group of 30's or 40's maybe. Now that I have bored you all too death, let me make a short list of what can be expected to drop on this island.

Greater Guard of Haste Rare off Rare Spawn
Chromatic Boots With Nice Stats except AC only 10 and Haste Rare
Lesser Guard of Haste Common default drop

Sword of Inferno Rare Haven't gotten it yet.
Short sword of Flame Common Got 3 of the crappy things.

Enduring Pants Rare Got a pair, not bad considering the classes that have trouble getting decent pants with stats
Hardy Pants Common Got 2 pair Ehhh, people still want them though. God, pants must really be a pain.

Belt of such and such. Rare Don't know the name offhand. Haven't gotten one yet, but the common isn't a bad caster belt, its what I wear at 58, so would like to get the rare drop at some point.

Belt of Growth. Common Got two of them. Not a bad caster belt. Especialy considering that nothing else in the bazaar is worth much either as far as caster belts go.

Greater Elementals
Greater Finespun Cloth Sleeves. Rare. Very nice sleeves. Still haven't gotten a pair on a kill, but I owned a pair and only sold them when I finaly got to Int 250 without them and could replace with Excellent No Drop Sleeves boosting other stats and mana.

Finespun Cloth Sleeves. Common. Must have gotten 15 pair of them by now without getting the greater finespun. Not bad sleeves though. Better then 90 percent of the caster sleeves you will see for sale in Bazaar.


Fetish of the Agile. Rare Have gotten several of them and very nice range piece for Agility + 10 and Dex + 10 and Dodge plus 6 percent. Have one on my Cleric and one on my bard.

Fetish of the Nimble. Common. Exactly half the stats of the Agile. Got a truck load of these. Must have had an average of 2 or 3 rotting on the ground every night cause all of this stuff is lore.


Greater Cap of Health. Rare. Got a few of these. I am not impressed with the stats myself, but they get bought right up. Good caps must be a pain to get also.

Lesser Cap of Health. Common. Let your pet wear this for all its worth or wow a real newb by giving it too them.


Greater Talisman of Wistfullness Rare Took me two weeks before I got the first one of these. Got 3 more in the last week. Halfway decent mid level neck piece for casters.


Greater Earthen Gauntlets Rare. AC 12 Str 10 Fairly common drop actualy, but you can buy much better in bazaar fairly cheaply. Twink another newb or sell them off for 150 pp and pray for a buyer dumb enough to buy them.

Earthen Gauntlets Common. Too common. Back up the Semi and load up. Take them to town and give them away though cause you ain't gonna sell them to anyone but a complete idiot in the bazaar and then for maybe 50pp if lucky.

Thats about it except for the Chromatic Armor. Very Rarely you will get a drop of some Chromatic Piece of Armor. I got a cloak off a regular water elemental and a collar off a bigger one with his regular drop also. The collar isn't even listed on Alakazam. I seem to have the first one. I also got the Chromatic Haste boots good for Clerics especialy, off Aero, which already mentioned. The Ac on this Chromatic Armor is too low to be taken seriously, but every piece seems to have saves to all catagories. I am saving them up in case I every get the full set I can get a screen shoot of my Cleric all decked out in Chrome and send it to the Alakazam fashion section. Maybe wear it too Tune weddings.

Okay, I know, long and boring post. But one final note. Once you are KOS to all of the Elementals, there is a trick, if you haven't read this already on another thread somewhere else. You can clear this whole island in about 5 mins very simply, if there are no named or big ones up. Wear your bessst resist gear so you don't get rooted. Put on your best armor spells and damage shield, especialy Invulnerbility shield if you have it, just in case to buy you time if you do get rooted. Oh, and be levitated and sowed also, or at least JBoots or Run 3. Now run the whole island and pick up every elemental in a massive train and then run out into the water and circle the island far enough out that the elementals are in the water too. The elementals are KOS to the Turtles there and will kill the whole train off in a couple of passes around the island. Be prepared to kill one or two that survive once you stop kiteing them around. Wait for respawn and track again. Just remember, wear every piece of resist gear you can lay your hands on and any resist against magic you can get tossed on you two. There is nothing quite as exciting as standing there rooted with 30 elementals trying to pound on you while you wait to see if the harmshield or the root will go out first.

Well, thats about all I can add. Hope it helps. Can't tell you what the haste percentage is on these guards and the boots that Aero drops. Going to do a little test myself against a good sash when I get the chance. All I know is I would wear the guard or the boots and be happy about it until you can lay out that 20 to 70 K for a really good haste item.

Just remember this though before I leave you good people. 3 weeks of killing. 500 to 600 elementals a night, every night, 12 to 14 hours for 3 weeks, and I still don't have a greater guard. But I got the Boots and there better for a Cleric anyhow.

Good luck and good hunting.


58th Season Defiler of all that is good.

RE: Greater Guard
# Dec 15 2002 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
ROFLMAO!!!! good read and very funny
RE: Greater Guard
# Oct 18 2002 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
99 posts

Very good information there! I am about to start on my Twilight Beastlord Quests and this info will be very useful while there - thank you much mang!
Savage Stonebear Seau
# Aug 19 2002 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
I saw on eqprices screeshot that this was a clickable haste, or at least looks that way. Its says unlimited charges, whereas CoF says perminant, can anyone confirm that? this is the link
if link doesnt work search for guard of haste.


Doh no html

Edited, Mon Aug 19 11:12:14 2002
# Jul 31 2002 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
did they nerf this or what? I heard that when luclin came out it was 30% haste=\ guess it isnt.
I would still like one for my rogue for the stats I have SCHW, will it defalt to the SCHW for haste because they are have a higher % of haste?
RE: =(
# Dec 17 2002 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
63 posts
Never was that high. The haste will default to your SCHW. For more info look here-
Haste data
Simple Camp
# Jul 09 2002 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
This is an easy camp for one group of 50+. We were training 10-15 elementals at a time, with 2 monks, cleric, druid, shammy, and a rogue(lvl 45). Just use AoE spells and let the melee's swing away. I was the cleric and was bored and AoE'ing and playing with some drops that dropped.
Takes a lot of time, but if you get to bored have a tracker there, and look for any named in the zone, there are quite a few, just be careful that they are not the NPC's for all the quests.

Also I would like to note that there are 3 or 4 Named NPC's outside any buildings on the shore of the main Isle, dont know mass kill these please. They are for a quest, kill them once, get the item, and leave them be please.

Haste compared to an FBSS?
# May 23 2002 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
Just wondering how the haste on this would compare to the FBSS for a 46th Rogue. Would love the stats this gives, and to be able to wear a decent belt would be peachy as well.

RE: Haste compared to an FBSS?
# May 24 2002 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Greater guard is 11%, FBSS is 21%. Hope this helps.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 16 2002 at 3:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, once again I gotta ask WTF is up with these BS figures of Haste, is everyone completely blind. I mean, does anyone else see teh lil (LINK) called Haste just after the words Effect:?????? CLICK the Friggin link, follow to next page and it reads as follows <cough> " Increase attack speed by (2)% at LEVEL 1 to (50)% at lvl 49, how hard is that its not 11%, where in the hell do u people get these figures from, u telling me Allakhazams and EQ Prices are both incorrect. WAKE UP, instance at my LVL 46 ATM it would be at least 45percent faster swings or 1-2more atks per round that I would have elsewise.....I'm completely blown away at peoples figures of FBSS 21%, no no 23 percent, no my friend said 18percent, CLICK THE LINK HATE IS HASTE however u stack it it is STILL GONNA BE HASTE....DAMN /nuff said
RE: Haste compared to an FBSS?
# Jul 16 2002 at 5:37 PM Rating: Decent
You my friend are inncorrect. Haste has different ratings for different items, this item has 11 percent haste. Thats why tanks go crazy for CoF and RBG because the increased haste makes a big difference.

53 Ranger
RE: Haste compared to an FBSS?
# Jul 31 2002 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
Could i ask where he was incorrect?
RE: Haste compared to an FBSS?
# Sep 21 2002 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
Turn your filter off, the guy he's correcting is being filtered out.
RE: Haste compared to an FBSS?
# Aug 03 2002 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
That's easy. That's the spell Haste, and that percentage is affected by the level of the caster, not the bearer.
Level to attain?
# May 21 2002 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
At what level can you take these elementals solo? I would use one of these.
price check?
# Apr 25 2002 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know how much these go for on Morell-Thule? hehe I never believe the prices above.

Nonneni Proudfoot
34th warrior
Pain in the butt!!!
# Apr 25 2002 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
Camping this island is a pain in the butt... I mean, at first, it's easy. However, once you've become KOS to all of the elementals (which I have), it becomes extremely difficult to search for anything in particular. At this point I have to simply pull to the side and hope that something pops and comes in my area. In addition, in a week and half of camping this place, I still haven't seen the rare drops from Aero, Hydro, or Inferno (sorry, don't know the number of hours, but camped it on my weekends and in the mornings before work and in the evenings after work). I'm there to acquire certain items for my alternate character. I will continue to camp these guys, but am getting sicly bored of it. Their spawning is rare, and the rare items they drop are rare... making it ultra-rare in my opinion.
The Elemental island drops
# Apr 23 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
Ok after 30+ hrs on this island.. heres what ive found. First, Doesnt matter what you kill a random type of elemental will pop.. ie you kill a fire, an earth could pop or an air etc. Second, the type of Named elemental ie Swift, Berzerker, Hulking etc. determines what type of item will drop. For example, Berzerkers drop Fetish of the Nimble (common) and Fetish of the Agile (rare). Third, there doesnt seem to be ANY correlation between time and Named spawns. Ive seen two uncommon named (Hulking, Berzerker etc.) up at the same time. And have seen the Rare named (Aero, Terra etc.) spawn within an hr of each other.. I'm 99% positive on all these facts.. if you have found out otherwise Please reply to this post. Oh one last thing.. it seems that when a specific type of elemental spawns that there is a percentage based chance that a Named or uncommon will spawn, somewhere in the vicinty of 1 in 200 for the named and 1 in 50 for the Uncommon.. Good luck :)
RE: The Elemental island drops
# May 20 2002 at 9:05 AM Rating: Excellent
A week into this place here's my findings....

Named (hulking etc.) spawn in a different place every 30 min, however sometimes they have just regular PH's..but we found out that if you kill all the fires, for instance, for the half hour in between spawns a named will pop. I use fire because we happened to have camp set up right on his spawn site (lucky us, too bad we were after Aero..) and from what we've discovered tis the same for all the elems, we had the fire, earth and water spawnsites and times down, so we were on a killing fest for 30 min, then wait for pop, killing fest rinse and repeat...

Fire is on North end of the island..Airs on south (we believe)
Earth and water are on opposite sides (east, west)

hope that helps, if yer on FV stay away for about a week ;)
Do haste effects stack?
# Apr 19 2002 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
Does the haste effect of several haste items stack? For example if i use an fbss and add one of these, will i get a higher haste effect? or just the maximum of both?
RE: Do haste effects stack?
# May 10 2002 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
No they dont stack. You will get which ever is the highest haste.
Haste doesn't move
# Apr 06 2002 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
Um, I got one question, if the haste goes from 11-30% from lvl 1-60 then how come it is still posted as 11% here on Magleo for me on my 53 paladin? No Magelo is not the law on haste... but it seems to be the most accurate source. Much better then a bunch of people posting what they think or want haste to be. Guess you have to use a little common sense and figure that if this is a pretty easy item to get, haste can't be too great. Btw, if you click on the haste on ANY item on this website it says the exact same as this item... it is soandso % haste from lvl 2 to soandso a 50

Edited, Sat Apr 27 05:44:23 2002
RE: Haste doesn't move
# Aug 10 2002 at 7:13 PM Rating: Excellent
45 posts
Magelo has been proven to be 100% accurate on permanant worn haste, which is what this item has. Worn item haste is a set amount, and it is the same regardless of what level you are.

Some people may try to convince you that certain items increase in haste as you level, but it is simply untrue. The most common item that people claim does this is the Velium Swiftblade, which is 36% haste regardless of player level, and not 1% haste per level like some people claim. No permanant worn item haste item increases in haste as you level.

Basically, the reason that you see varying reports from people on the haste on this item is simply because some people try to rip other people off by giving misleading information. Since you can't just click on a haste item in game to find out how much haste the item has, it's fairly easy for people to mislead others.

RE: Haste doesn't move
# Sep 21 2002 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
you are correct in the fact that the haste percentage on an item does not move, BUT the cap for haste does have level restrictions. I believe that the cap is increased at levels 10, 25, 40 and 50. This is why you will get conflicting results on an item

Edited, Sat Sep 21 02:43:57 2002
RE: Haste doesn't move
# Apr 07 2002 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
I would think Magelo's displayed stats are not law, since Magelo is not affiliated with VI and therefore it would make no sense for them to be the official say on the full stats of the item. I dunno, maybe Magelo looks at the item or something. Not really sure how it works.
1. Ninjas are mammals.
2. Ninjas fight ALL the time.
3. The purpose of a ninja is to flip out and kill people.
RE: Haste doesn't move
# Jun 12 2002 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
I had Aero up on track, and then like 6 ninjas spawned and totally rocked out on me and killed everything on Luclin. phooking KSing ninjas :/
# Mar 21 2002 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
Was camping this island. I am assuming that the large island in the middle of the zone is the correct place to camp as it inhabits many many elementals. Does it matter what elementals you kill or do you just kill em all to get the random spawns? Any type of info on this zone would be greatly appreciated.
RE: Aero
# Mar 25 2002 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
361 posts
In my experience the type of elemental you kill doesn't have much to do with the boss mob that spawns...kill 'em all :)

Edited, Mon Mar 25 23:14:35 2002
RE: Aero
# Apr 07 2002 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
949 posts
best bet is to kill all elementals on island, because once the boss does pop...and go down, you will instantly be KOS to all of them...just my 2cp
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 17 2002 at 11:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) They will only aggro if they are not green to you. Like most other mob in EQ.
RE: Aero
# Oct 04 2002 at 7:03 AM Rating: Default
You obviously have no clue about mob aggro in EQ.

Fact: Green elementals WILL attack you if you are KOS.
Haste %
# Mar 13 2002 at 11:00 PM Rating: Decent
As stated by a post on the lesser guard of haste. Magilo has found the haste % to be 2-50%. This is haste based on level. Someone reported it capped at 30%. Either way. Now if haste on these items is level based then Verant is starting to get smart. The cap of health is mentioned to have regen effects (greater actualy). Myself as a mage when I looted it the effects did not show but will give to class that can use to see if the regen shows up. The groaning mace is shown in the same scenario peeps. Dmg bonus increases with level. Just want to destroy the myth or report the legend. Now back to poopshooting each other about camping mobs. BTW if an island is a camp for a rare spawn . . . hmmm, another zone with a rare that could pop anywhere. . . I AM CAMPING THE ENTIRE DESERT IN SOUTH RO UNTIL EVERYONE IN MY GUILD HAS JBOOTS. Cry, complain, whatever. Just remember it is a game.
RE: Haste %
# Mar 22 2002 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
Actually Magelo says the haste is only 11%.
How do you get Aero to spawn
# Mar 12 2002 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
Me a 52 pally and a 43 ranger have been camping this island for 3 days now and have yet to see any named elemental spawn.How do you get Aero to spawn?DO you have to kill just air elementals or all of the elementals?Anyone with any info it would be much appreciated....thanx
RE: How do you get Aero to spawn
# Mar 28 2002 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
Just in case, although you may already know, make sure you have see invis up at all times, so that you can see the air elementals.
Do a camp chk next time
# Mar 11 2002 at 9:57 PM Rating: Default
For what it's did KS him if he had the camp. You can easily do multiple camps in Lguk. He did all the work in killing the PH's to cycle in the FRENZY pop and you take the FRENZY pop??? LMFAO...if that's not grounds for KS'ing...let me know what camp's you are doing quests i can waltz in on my MERRY lil KS throne and rob ya blind. What you did was plain rude, crass, n00bish, totally unethical and LAME. You make EQ seem more like some First Person Shooter game and you can MOD while everyone else plays fairly. What a crying shame on your part for even posting that lame remark on here about not KS'ing a camp. LMAO. ^_^ Oh my sides hurt. Go back to gbay and sell your obviously have no clue on teamwork or civility. =P
RE: Do a camp chk next time
# May 16 2002 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
4 posts
I'm sorry but I totally dissagree with you here. Just because I can run thru Sola and kill everything there including all the PH's for the named spawns doesnt mean I have the right to hold all those camps. Heck, I've done it numerous times. If no one is on the zone, run thru kill a PH. Leave that loc, go kill another PH. Go back to the orriginal spot and someone is there. I dont get pissed. I'm the one who left the camp. If you wanna camp something, pop a squat and sit there. Otherwise you're not camping you're farming. Nothin wrong with farming (If no one else is there but if u want an item. Do as I do pop a squat and wait).
RE: Do a camp chk next time
# Mar 26 2002 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
The amount of times I've been killing PH in a certain place for a certain spawn and someone stole the still amazes me that people can actually interact with other human beings.
RE: Do a camp chk next time
# Mar 30 2002 at 9:33 PM Rating: Default
# Mar 10 2002 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
You guys are a bunch of crying morons, I swear! Let's set something right to begin with. Kill Stealing by definition is another player attacking and killing a mob AFTER you had struck it first. So if you're some PUNK pharming Druid trying to twink your ****** and you're half way across the zone when you get the named on track, don't start crying when you get there and IT'S DEAD! That's not KS'ing...that's...You were to friggin SLOW.

I had this happen when I wondered down to LGuk one night with my 60 Shaman. I show up at the Frenzy and no one's there...but the Frenzy. So I smoke his *** and about that time a 58 Druid shows up and say's "I'll roll ya for it". WHAT?!?! He then tells me he was camping the Frenzy and the Magi at the same time and that I had KS'd him, but since I had killed him he would be so kind as to let me roll for it. "My ***" I said to him../rude gesture..and I was on my merry way with a new Fbss.

Deal with it. It's a stupid game. If you can't handle it.....DONT PLAY
RE: Camping
# Apr 23 2002 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
this whole conversation is way off subject...but umm maybe yuo should have thought about that before you killed frenzy? if no one was around....including the other mobs...kinda shoulda clicked with ya that it was camped. ive seen pulls go wrong down there where we had up to 15 of those damned frogs on us. so if none of those 15+ frogs were there, mr way cool uber 60 shoulda known better than to just run up and kill him. and punk pharming droods huh? what would you cool a level 60 shammy at frenzy camp? hmm....a punk pharming shammy if you ask me =) try a camp check next time buddy.

and if you think its a stupid game, how bout you not play =)~

good luck to the rest of yas, if ya ever meet anyone like this guy be sure to sucker punch him in the stomach

semajecap 38war
semaj 42dru
semajelizz 15shm
semajbfeline 10brd
semajshorty 10mag
#eviltiminc, Posted: Mar 14 2002 at 9:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) AMEN BORHTER!
RE: Camping
# Mar 14 2002 at 9:44 AM Rating: Default
154 posts

Typing sucks! Play fair and level Hard!
hint for all those high lvls farming here...
# Mar 01 2002 at 10:58 AM Rating: Decent
...keep killing everything...add the bosses...(since aero is realy rare spawn you will kill alot of those other bosses before you get a chance on him)...after a few bosses, like 3 maybe...your kos to everyhting on the island...then you dont need that damn see invis...everything will agro you and lose invis...even the normal elements use invis least happend when i was there...but just go close and they agro and you kill it

have sow and your fine as long as you can take a few of them at the same around and kill...he he he


RE: hint for all those high lvls farming here...
# Mar 09 2002 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
KOS Info.....

Spend the day killing all elements today, was not kos to any until we killed Inferno. After his quick & easy death to a 52 War & 53 Dru we were KOS to all Fire Elements, but nothing else. Later Aero showed himself & again we killed the boss with no problems, but now we are KOS to all Air Elements. We are still safe with the Earth & Water Elements....hehe for now >)

So you should not be KOS to a class of elements until you have killed a Boss.

Hope this helps =)
RE: hint for all those high lvls farming here...
# Apr 04 2002 at 2:24 AM Rating: Decent
Not really... a friend of mine was KoS to all the elementals there and this was her first time in The Twilight Sea... In fact, this was her first time on Luclin, lol.
# Feb 21 2002 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
Nope they will NOT stack.
# Feb 19 2002 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
I have a question. I have heard multiple answers, but im still not sure. If you have multiple items that have a permanent effect of haste..will they all stack?

Xanasren Heartfyre
RE: Haste
# Apr 04 2002 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
Nope... Highest haste % will take affect.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 16 2002 at 6:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is for you gates, a few posts back, it was just me and a lvl 51 pally, only ones in ZONE, for 6 HOURS and then I clicked on tracking to low and behold there is terra I tracked to him and guess what a lvl 45 ranger who had not EVEN been in zone for 5 mins pulled it and gotten a greater guard which I worked my *** of trying to get and I am sorry but that IS ksing in my book.
RE: This is for gates
# Apr 21 2002 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
Well, I hate KS-ing and FARMERS as much as the next guy; but this is a place that no one will ever get any help in from the GM's. Just consider it a camp like the AC in S Ro. Whoever gets the kill, wins the prize. No point arguing or complaining about it. It will never be dealt with or considered by the GM's, so learn to live with it.

Sucks, but that's just the way it's gonna go ... period.

*edited to add the emphasis to FARMERS in deference to original poster who has the nads to complain in the first place about someone else when he is obviously farming in greenie-land for profit off others' xp mobs*

Edited, Sun Apr 21 22:32:44 2002
RE: This is for gates
# Apr 16 2002 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
I really dont think that Terra drops this item to begin with. Maybe you were mistaken when you typed that but Aero is the one who drops this item.

Gabrielle Kazoo
56th Troubadour
Drinal Server
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 21 2002 at 10:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You went working your *** off you were playing a game , i here that all the time " iv ben working my but off for 8 hours to get that " wawawa ! You are playing a game ! Withc i play to , and after working 10 hours i like to come home and if i have some free time play to , because i pay my 10 $ a month like evry one ells . So evry one has a right to evry thing in the game no mater how long they have ben on or not , i agry that if you atack anuther mob whiel some one is allrdy in fight with it then that is rong , but hey i would l,ove to get my hands on one of these and have wanted to for sevral months , and when i get a chance to get over there to TS , dont think i wont take the first chance i get at one of these. Sorry you lost it , realy i am , because that is real frustraiting , but it hapens , beter luck next time .
RE: This is for gates
# Mar 10 2002 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
You didn't get to it first.It's as simple as that. Seems to me you werent trying that hard if you lost it that easy so quit crying and just deal with it.
# Jan 19 2002 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
I say this island is a camp. its not big at all and i have killed every elemental on there several times, only to see that when the names start poppin, others are killing them. and they werent even on when i started. that my friend is stealing whether verant likes it or not.
RE: camp
# Feb 15 2002 at 4:55 PM Rating: Excellent
The times I have been there the fist person just states which type they have and everyone has been respectful by elem type, even going so far as to send a tell to the group killing waters ect when a named pops -- as they would do the same if a named of your type spawned. This is how it is divided normally when I have been there.

I have also been there once when the whole island was just a free-for-all. Though after about a half hour most everyone leaves since they have no idea if a named has spawned and they missed it or not.

Usually, I just see a druid,ranger,bard sitting there doing nothing (ie not killing anything) so I just go do something else until they leave. I will not do the work of killing place holders for them to try and track a named I am working to get. At least I get exp from almost every elem at 43.

Edited, Fri Feb 15 16:57:34 2002
RE: camp
# Feb 11 2002 at 7:58 AM Rating: Decent
230 posts
I have been hunting elementals (and shadows) in Twilight for weeks now. Haven't had much luck with getting named to spawn and when I do it's always the lesser drop...anyway...this island is NOT, IMO, a camp.

If there is a group there already I take the other end. If they complain I tell them that I'll not take any rare spawns (named or titled) for the first 15mins (takes this long for respawns) and it's first come first served after that (as long as no one tries to KS, I'm happy to go with a you hit it it's yours policy) The only time this causes a problem is when the other "party" have no tracker.
I have been hunting on the island for a couple of hours and had 60's join in and clear the island (now I am KoS to all I can't safely do that, I just train a bunch to a my partner and kill them there) but I have never once complained at this, it's a large island of randomly placed spawns, not like camping a room in a dungeon. My only complaint is if someone sits waiting on rare spawns and not killing any ele's themselves. If you suspect this just wait them out, stop killing, keep tracking and do the same, after 15mins all you kills would have repopped...if nothing else pops after that maybe explain to the guy why that is, see if he actually wants to participate or just sit there.

The only time I have given the camp up was when a group of low to mid 30's were hunting there, as they are actually getting exp I left the island to them. This is a rare occasion, most who hunt this are high 40's or low 50's after some of the rarer drops (Fetish of Agile, Greater Finespun sleeves, Belt of Guardianship and of course the Greater Guard)as they are likely better then what they already have (at least they are in mine and my druid partner's case)...of course they could just be farming.

Expect I'll be back to twilight soon :/

#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 28 2002 at 6:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Sat Feb 23 21:22:51 2002
RE: camp
# Jan 23 2002 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
Well unfortunatly, as the Gm's and guides will tell you , you cannot own a camp. I found this out the hard way myself camping a minor item. Someone stole it by nuking it as i engaged it . I petitioned the gm and gm said tough luck you can't own a camp. Guy was a real smart *** and needed to have a kick in the ehad. But oh well, verant sucks at times..
RE: camp
# Feb 25 2002 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
22 posts
You may not be allowed to own a camp, but if you are engaged with the mob and they attack it and kill it.. thats called Kill Stealing.. and that IS against the Play Nice Policy...

If he had attacked something you had already attacked, and you called a GM in on it cuz of KSing, then he should have sided with you and warned the other person... however, at that point you would have to share the camp tho.

Sucks, but thats the rules.
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