I just wanted to say i realy enjoyed the coldain ring quest and when i joined i didnt expect to win the roll for this fine peice of head gear i just won this tonight for my 53 ranger and when i put it on him i loved it when i saw his stats go up its worth getting, and well thats my two cents i dont care who can or can not use it eather
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Posted:Dec 16 2003 at 12:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This ought to be bard wearable in addition to the other Hybrids that can use it.
It's not true Ralalorn. There is a big difference in SK vs Pally aggro. Pallys mostly get aggro through stun, which is a very high aggro spell. SKs have to use a lot of different spells to gain aggro very well. I would have to say that Pallys may have a very slight edge against a SK, but it's not very much. I've had aggro wars with every class in the game, and for the most part, none of them could even take aggro from me when I was willing to burn the mana. A Pally is the only one that could take it from me, but I would take it back from them with just a few moments and we'd end up trading it back and forth.
The main difference though is that to get really good aggro, an SK needs to have more skill and understand how their aggro works and know which spells to use when. There are a lot of SKs that never learn this, so they suck. Those of us that do learn it can aggro every bit as well as a Pally
No rangers are the best at giving up agro. Jolt and Jolting blades work great. Pull with Jolt. Anyone touching the mob will get aggro from you.
When you need to get agro (to save your healers life, or die tanking the mob because the group is potential wipe bait) then use tangling weeds, snare, proc'n dual weapons etc... cause that's what your there for.
When I group with my ranger I try to stay right on the edge of having agro. If the mob turns and hits me then I stop attacking and cast jolt to get him off so the tank can maintain. And ya I still pull agro sometimes with my 2hander..., but I know how to get rid of it too.
One area I've found pally's to be superior in is in grabbing aggro from a number of mobs at once. Their group heals make great AE taunts, and can be a lifesaver to the primary healer.
Ralalorn you must know some awful Shadow Knights. SK/Pally are almost equal as far as aggro is concerned... however, at lvl 65 the spell I use most for agro is my lvl 9 Clinging Darkness. At only 20 mana per cast it doesn't even move my mana bar, and 1 cast on inc is enough to allow a shaman, chanter to instantly slow it. Most times the mob is slow before I even get touched, and my slowers do not take damage. With about 4 more casts during the fight nobody will be getting hit for the duration. Also a side note Sparty... Harm Touch is almost zero agro, and also at a re-use time of 36 minutes at best it is never used for agro generation. And as for LoH when you are about to die as a pally i have but 2 words... Feign Death =)
No offense but SK and Pally's are about equal as far as getting/keeping aggro and I would say it solely depends on what type of mob you're trying to get the attention of.
All things being equal though, I would have to say SK's should and would (those that know what they're doing anyway) hold any aggro over Paladins because they can use Harm Touch to get it initially. And unless your Pally has weapons that are 3 times better than the SK's, you couldn't taunt enough in a regular fight to get it back.
But when you die...on your deathbed..you will have Lay on Hands going for you....which is nice.
May be an old post...but since you were quite wrong, I felt I should respond to it anyway so that newer people are not mislead.
Group heals *are* good aggro. Ask Blazzax, he agrees with me.
I had to learn when I could get away with using them in high end AE encounters, else I took aggro from the MT and promptly sploded. Not a good thing! Now that I'm used to it, it is no problem to keep my group healed/cured without swiping aggro, but the first couple fights after I started using Marr, I most certainly *did* feel lots of love.
So yes...group heals are good aggro. Especially in a group situation where your cleric gets a mob on 'em and starts getting pounded. Serves the purpose of aggro, and helping the cleric stay alive.
As for who is better between SK and Pal? Neither. It depends on the player. Both have excellent aggro control. The only advantage I see a paladin having really, is when the mob is actually stunnable. Not going anywhere for duration of stun. That's nice, but aggro itself is good for both.
How much do these helms go for? Wish I could get one in sometime hehe. I play on the Drinal Server, so if anyone happens to see this post plz tell me what the helm is worth.
While I hope to see this sweet helm on a main, unfortunately I have seen them being sold after alot of ring wars. Because the helm isn't level restricted, it is by far the best hybrid head slot twink item. Hopefully I will get one on my bsty soon, but would rather see it awarded to a main that attended the raid.
Not everyone is a twink, and some of us do bust our butts to get our mains decently equipped so we can better raid with you. But imho, twinking is fun, and I really don't want to go through being in newb gear all over again.
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Posted:Apr 30 2003 at 1:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) mithril helm also isn't level restricted. no ft2, but 10 more AC, and 15 on each resist. eh... i'd say it's better.
if you think this is a waste for an sk/pally you obviously havent grouped with an sk/pally that knows how to make themselves the most effective i get /tells all the time from past group members beggin me to join them for one simple reason nobody and i mean nobody can get agro back off a caster faster than an sk that has taken the time to learn the true potential of the voice and terror line of spells at lvl 53 voice of darkness on myself alone is enough to outagro ANY taunt and when a cleric does buy CH agro terror of death is a quick cast quick recover 450 points of hate any mob i have ever hit with this instantly forgets anybody and everybody but me the only downfall to this is it becomes almost impossible to get agro back off of me when im near dead but hey if i gotta die so the cleric lives to keep the rest of the group alive so be it after all i am a tank class that's my job
Dondi Tolax lvl 53 human Reaver I fear nothing i know no limits i will laugh while others cry and i will never accept defeat gracefully
Woa, I tried reading that whole post outloud, and it took alot of wind outta me :) . But you're right, I think this is a fine helm for a Shadoknight. For me, having FT3 (1 from earring and 2 from this) would help me exponentally with Solo'ing. I've noticed that when I'm lucky enough to get extended clarity, I can solo effortlessly for an entire day, and make insane experience. In groups, this would enable me to throw out every detrimental spell I have mem'd through the durration of the fight, assuming I got a bit of downtime between rounds to med. The only problem is the rariety, and the price it results in. http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=325249
Curiously wondering why people want 150k-250kpp for this item when it is almost as common as the Narandi Lance which goes for about 10k on Tunare /boggle.
Because lance is not anymore as good as it used to be when compared to numbers of 2 handers since SoL came out, it's not even 1/1 ratio... not saying it's not good, but when there are another to compare with, price goes down as lance becomes more available...
Helm on the other hand - FT2 and 25AC alone beats alot of helms out there, especially for beastlord and ranger.. do a head item check for the said 2 classes and you have an idea. Chances are you wont see too many people selling this either unlike the lance, they rather keep it/ transfer to another char in most case.
it's because this is rarely sold. if it's one of the usable classes who gets up to the 10th ring, i would hope their guild would let them keep this very fine helm.
This is a crown, therefore, no graphic. I won it last night in roll on the Ayonae Ro Server - sweet head piece. I was wearing a crown from the 2000 Halloween GM event - nice upgrade - but STILL no headpiece graphic =( The FT II is a nice assist for me (46 Pally) to help with heals from time to time.
there is no way anyone is going to strip this thing off my head...awesome awesome helmet also yes there is no graphics..well on the luclin models anyways..but so what hehe ..now the mobs can see my bald head coming from miles away
I must say I gust receved this healm from the ring war and OMG its awsome.first of this was a bounus due to the fact that I had so much fun doing the ring war. This was one of the best run events I have been to yet . Rember dont go if you think you will score this loot cause chaces are you wont. You should go for the pure enjoyment of the fight take in the story line in this event and have fun you never know you may just get it. rember the best class is the one you like to play
Sorinor Ranger of the 55 season Test server ClanKeebler
In the past three months I've only seen it come up for sale twice in Saryrn. One wanted 150k and the other wanted 200k. Apparently it is quite rare. Ive only seen Narandi taken down once but apparently he didnt have the helm on him at the time.
He never has the helm on him. He only drops the Head of Narandi. The other rewards are a matter of specifically which dwarf commanders are alive at the end of the fight. After you turn in the head for your 10th ring, you get the head back, and go from commander to commander handing it to them. Each hands you back the head plus one item. Each commander you keep alive is another item gained at the end. I forget which gives you the crown, but I think it's either Garadain or Dobbin.
Don't forget that Rangers can use this item as well. I have this on my ranger, I wear it over my Helm of the Tracker. More ac/hp/resists makes it better.
The crown has recently been changed, as far as the classes that can wear it anyhow. Ranger's are now an included class. Don't go all freaky and assume that more then that was changed cause nothing else was...heh.
i recently saw my only 1 ever for sale in ec the other day....it was auctioned as Beastlord Usable also now, didnt actually get to see it, but why would someone lie? thats just awesome i think as this is an awesome helm period. bout time they started makin Hybrid only items i think, dont see to much imo, and finally a piece that hybrids get first dibs on!
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Posted:Dec 06 2001 at 4:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) KISS I SÄNGEN OCH HA DET BRA,
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Posted:Nov 13 2001 at 2:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am on Cazic Thule server with Replay. He won the BotB for Pally's on our server. He is level 60 and he rocks. I am very happy to have him as a friend and he deserves this helm, and better. Rock on Replay!
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 2:01 AM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) The 'people' that make it a lifestyle to post on this site about a ******* video game are worthless no life having can't get a date living with their parents never heard of a shower immature selfish jobless ****** >>******<< morons that couldn't tell the difference between the outside of their house and their own *******.
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 1:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow, this Wanderslow loser is posting on all the items. Funny thing is that he accuses others of having no life.
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 10:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just because you failed so miserably raising your own child is no reason to go attacking a lot of other people...
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 2:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually, I'm happily married and have been for 2 and a half years now and have a steady and well-paying job. It appears that you're the one without life because you're the one bothering to post on a list about a videogame that you obviously don't like. Surely you have something better to do with your time, no?
Um reality check here...... WTF are you doing? You are doing the same thing you acuse other people of doing. What do you actually sit at your computer desk waiting for a response to your flames so you yourself can spend another 5 minutes of your life to write a response?
What gives you the right to decide what someone can and cant do? It obviously troubles you to no end that somebody is posting on these forums but yet you find and irrisitable fascination to do the same.
So Get your head out of your wife's *** take your kids to Mc'donalds and forget you even saw this webpage. Because you obviously enjoy bringing missory to others you self righteous ignorant spore of a baboons *****
Now what would really impress me is if you found the sense of control not to respond to this post. I know its in you somewhere. Seeing as how that it is a waist of prescious time.
So in closing i would like to say please for all that is good I hope you are venting on this board and not on your wife and child. God help their souls. Because if this is the true indication of your actions IRL then you my friend are the the one who really has no life. Dont spread the disease of your hatred. Grab a hammer and take out your (sexual?) frustrations on your Computer. Maybe then you can feel you have a purpose in your pathetic life. Ps: crack the window, the air is getting musty in your computer room.
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Posted:Nov 17 2001 at 3:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Gratz to the peeps that recognized the blatant irony in the BS posts and chuckled to themselves.
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Posted:Nov 11 2001 at 7:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) AC 25 on ANY helm is awesome. That is more then my BP right now. I mean i have yet to be high enought to really tap into the uber weapons, but this helm ROCKS. and yes, I suffer from "i wish this or that" I think sometimes EQ seems to foget Pally's and Cerics are very kin like. I do wish a cleric could use this. :)
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 5:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm glad clerics CAN"T use this, because if they could it would without fail go to the cleric.
jeez can you people not accept anything without complaining about part of it? This is a great item, and anyone who gets it deserves every damn effect that it has. i'm personally sick of people whining about "my class should have this item!" there are good items for every class, and as far as the effect on this being useless, well that makes no sense to me at all...would it be more useful if it had no effect at all?
I agree this is one piece of loot. Be happy that pally/sk get this item. It wil help them while you group or raid with them. 25ac 50 hp/mana is nice. The fact that only pallies and sk use means that more will be on the market. They sell for 100k on my server. Uberguild X that does this quest often on my server has very few pally/sk, meaning the lances and helms get sold now.
Bottom line is don;t covet other classes items, concentrate on what you can use. Will be alot more productive. I suppose seeing a cleric in a breastplate with aura of battle effect and no wis or mana would really make them mad.
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Posted:Nov 12 2001 at 6:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) could it be? fungi robe all over again??? lol that would be funny if they did it so much that every lvl 30 had one =P that would kick ****
OMG, this is a stupid argument. Look, this is a GREAT helm for any SK or Pali (except in a raid situation needing better resists, but still great all around).
The FT2 is NOT the main stat on the helm, it's a little added bonus. This is an awesome helm, 25ac, 8 to melee stats, 8 to wis/int, 4 sv all, 50hp/mana, what an AWESOME helm, a lot better than my umbral helm I'll tell ya that. FT2 is like nearly the least of all the mods on this helm.
The FT2 doesn't help all that much (2 mana per tick) but it does help a little bit. It's not gonna help as much as the ac or those melee stats or that 50 mana/hp or that wis/int or those resists. People blow one part of an item out of proportion and it drives me nuts. It's like there's a little proc on a weapon and the ONLY argument seen about the weapon is on how worthless the weapon is because it's a crummy proc, even though the ratio is awesome, I mean COME ON.
Ok, end of rant, great item, me want! Sorry, had to get that in there :)
good point ya got there...every1 is fussing sooo much over "what a waste" and "why should pal/sk get FT2?!" that they forgot to look at stats...happens so much too...just like scotty said...people just look at proc so much...they miss awesome stats...oh well...