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Silver Dagger of Destruction  

Skill: Piercing Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 19 Dmg Bonus: 30 AC: 50
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +25 INT: +15 MANA: +50
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:Piercing
Lucy Entry By:Tiana
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-11-24 07:10:55
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Item

Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 58

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#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 20 2002 at 5:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) me lvl 25 want to go to tov with my bro's supa uba guild and loot this thing cuz casters have way better thing so they wouldn't mine me looting it. the only prob is if i walk in i wiould prolly get all the agro in the place or some thing like that......just a thought= )....that would be my dream
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2002 at 5:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) leave it to verant to put 50 ac on a caster only dagger hehe not that there anything wrong with that 50 ac cna be useful to them but would have been mreo useful to add it to the frostwrathe or primal velium stuff
# Oct 30 2002 at 5:39 PM Rating: Default
haha, and notice that the damage delay is better than alot of melee weapons here.... i can see a chanter tank in the light.........
# Oct 30 2002 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
lol nvm just checked out Meljeldin.. hehe forgot that this is ntov
I got mine..
# Jan 10 2002 at 11:07 AM Rating: Default
I use it all the time. Looking to buy Girdle of Rapidity on TP!!!

Edited, Thu Jan 10 11:09:56 2002
stop the bitching
# Oct 23 2001 at 9:24 PM Rating: Good
Look people if they were gonna make it equippable by a rgue they certainly wouln't have made it 19/20.

stop all the fooking ******** already!
# Oct 23 2001 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
I dunno about you, but i don't think i'd ever risk losing this thing by equipping it in my range slot
ac 15....mana 50.....i wonder. if this weren't no drop, how much would it sell for?
RE: range?!?
# Oct 30 2001 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
It's perfect for the ranged slot, all No Drop items are safe there.

/em throws his Sarnak Ceremonial Dagger at %t
/say 'Doh!!!'

This is SWEET for the RANGE slot.
# Oct 23 2001 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
Okay, for all you who are saying this item is a joke, check the slots it can be equipped in. As a wizard, I'd kill to have 25 STR, 15 INT, 50 Mana, and 50 AC in my RANGE slot. Sure as hell beats my Sarnak Ceremonial Dagger.

Feawon Manaburn
Evoker Extrodinare
RE: This is SWEET for the RANGE slot.
# Nov 10 2001 at 4:11 AM Rating: Default
You're right, it is a sweet range slot item. Thats exactly where it is in my inventory, but only because I have a staff of the silent star in my main. =)

BTW, I would never, NEVER have a range hotkey.
RE: This is SWEET for the RANGE slot.
# Sep 06 2002 at 12:06 PM Rating: Default
um, yeaahhh... if an item doesnt have a posted range it cannot be thrown... so you could click ranged attack all you want and it wouldnt go anywhere.

Grendon, Warlord of Bristlebane
A sad story
# Oct 23 2001 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
I think this a great addition for casters. I am a 45 enchanter on Xev and one day in WC a bloody puma jumped me and I couldn't kill it. I was level 45 and couldn't kill a level ten monster. (I didn't have mez or a DD memed at the time)

Would at least be nice to have a reason to work on your melee skills too, we get them so we should use them. Same goes for the girdle of rapidity. These items are for casters only because there would be no way for us to get haste gear and nice weapons if we had to compete with melee classes. Its a great addition and I look forward to getting one for myself =)
RE: A sad story
# Jan 20 2002 at 5:41 PM Rating: Default
trust me all casters have been there......
I'm a mage and I am forced to hold a torch/shovel/stien/broom sure they buff up my pets and all but only 4 damage and my 1hb SUCKS and no matter how hard I work at it I just cant seem to get it up.
Now with velious out there is a haste robe out for casters lookin in to gettin one has haste and int and mana and AC what more could a caster need?
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 23 2001 at 3:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What...No drop?
Quite real
# Oct 22 2001 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
I've seen it drop personally. It's a very real item, but it's still a really bad joke ;p
# Oct 21 2001 at 11:42 AM Rating: Default
uhhhh does Verant WANT casters to tank? I mean my chanter could frickin melee mobs to death with this thing, not to mention the handy +15 int. I would damn near be afraid to use this thing for actual meleeing for fear the wizzy and warriors wouldnt be able to get it off me. Well, not like I'll ever see this thing anyway. =P

Bindabik Mezzabik
Myth And Legends
Vallon Zek
# Nov 10 2001 at 4:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Dude, you would NEVER out-aggro a group of tanks with this weapon just meleeing. If it proc'ed a DD or a debuff, maybe. When I had this dagger in my primary the only reason the tanks didn't like me using it is because I got in the way. I missed A LOT, and when I hit it wasn't for very much, average teens I would say.

A caster's innate melee ability is complete crap, which is why they can afford to give us such great weapons. What this dagger is really GREAT for its stats, mainly the AC, mana, and str. Int is a negligible benefit unless possibly you are an iksar, or do a lot of trade skills.

This things a flippin sheild in itself and makes a great range slot item if you have another decent weapon or utility item in your primary slot. The dmg/delay is really only good for small crap you don't want to waste mana on and pvp, especially against another caster.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2001 at 2:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this should be for a rogue :|
# Oct 20 2001 at 7:15 PM Rating: Default
Look here sillies, see where it says "Class: "? see it? now read it...thats right, casters...This wasnt made to be a melee wep, just like the Crown in solb with 15wis/int is only melee usable...its just something thrown in for kicks and *****. And see where it comes from? Check out some Vulak loot (WOW, he's also from Tov!!) and tell me thats fake too.
RE: Dumbfucks
# Oct 20 2001 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
Btw the 15int/wis choker in sol b is melee only, the 20 MR crown is all/all. Unless someone other than king tranix drops something I never seen (I only kill fg)
RE: Dumbfucks
# Oct 21 2001 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
Oops, was the torque i was talking about...hehe, havent killed fg's for a long time =/
RE: Dumbfucks
# Oct 22 2001 at 8:07 PM Rating: Default
The torque is a hybrid item ) thats why they put the int/wis there.
# Oct 20 2001 at 6:59 PM Rating: Default
45 posts
i jsut notice this - look at the backgroudnd of the pic - see the white? that proves its fake
Baadan - 75 Warrior
RE: faaaaaake
# Oct 20 2001 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
Why must this world have Morons, to get the white you simply go to Paint in your acessories and delete the rest of the Pic it leaves... OMG "WHITE" background from what you Erased
RE: faaaaaake
# Oct 20 2001 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
This item isn;t fake, nor is it new. An enchanter at the BOTB on my server literal stabbed an opponent to death. He never saw this coming =/

Look at all the other loot from NToV. Is easy as you sit in freeport buying and selling your way to a fat bank roll to bash items you will never even see drop. I suppose the no drop tag has you so annoyed due to the fact you will never see level 60 or get to WW little lone ToV.

Be happy people are giving you glimpes of things to aspire to attain. Pretty sad that you resort to blasphemy and attack their credibility.
RE: faaaaaake
# Oct 25 2001 at 9:17 PM Rating: Default
What a poorly written post. btw the enchanter at BOTB on mith marr killed his oppenents to about 1-2% hp before he stabbed them. big deal =/

they could come out with a 50/10 weapon for casters and they *still* couldn't melee.

spermicidal lubricant
Mith Marr
# Oct 20 2001 at 6:58 PM Rating: Default
45 posts
me thinks its fake to
Baadan - 75 Warrior
RE: faaake
# May 10 2002 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
119 posts
Me hopes you don't procreate!
There are too many morons adding their tainted seed to the populace....
/flame off

As far as this dagger goes, yes it is a real item. I'll not waste my time citing examples as proof of it's existence. If you want to believe that this is fake... fine by me... join me on a raid some time and I'll convince you that anything I loot is really just an emote and the mobs aren't dropping anything =~)
Hiddo Von'Skittles
Looks fake to me
# Oct 19 2001 at 5:15 PM Rating: Default
Look at the damn thing! It has _50_ AC. That's more than a decent tank breastplate and all but the most uber of shields. And _25_ str! And _15_ int! And a nearly 1/1 ratio. And it goes in the ranged slot. And they didn't say what mob it dropped off of. How could it not be fake?
RE: Looks fake to me
# Oct 20 2001 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
Why would this be fake? Super awesome dmg ratio and sweet stats = ToV =P
# Oct 19 2001 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
I was the first on Tarew Marr server to get this dagger. Since then there are several others in my guild that now sport this nice dagger.
Would it be good for a rogue if possible?
# Oct 19 2001 at 3:38 AM Rating: Decent
The thought of this being a rogue weapon is almost devious. The unimaginable damage a rogue could deal with this bad boy isnt to be thought about. Im a warrior and its often times my job to keep the rogues alive, cause they might hit hard, but they also GET HIT hard too. If you are a warrior you know the extreme difficulty it is to regain the taunt from a rogue with epic or better pokers. This thing would out taunt a warrior even without BS's. A rogue with the same weapons as me naturally does almost twice as much damage, then to add in BS's. And the extra 30 points in taunt is nice... buts its a far cry still in whats truelly needed for us warriors to regain taunt. The only thing that scares me more than these great weapons emerging, is the thought of even better armor for rogues. Id hate to think that the days of a warrior taking the beating, are numbered. But 2 rogues on opposite sides of a mob will slaugher the mob a hell of a lot faster than a tank on one, and a rogue on the other. Plus with good armor, both rogues are capapble of staying alive long enough with a cleric as to not need us tanks :( Ah well, we still got our good looks ;) oh yeah. Ladies take a number please, line forms to the left hehe
# Oct 18 2001 at 1:37 PM Rating: Excellent
Okay, how is anyone even arguing that this is not one of the best daggers in the game? It's got almost a 1 to 1 ratio and an AC of 50!!!! Holy fricking banshee mother. Anyone who gets one of these should feel blessed beyond their wildest dreams, and anyone who sits on these message boards and analyzes stats and complains about Verant needs to just chill out and try to enjoy the game. It's one of the most fun games in the world, and this is a great item.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 18 2001 at 3:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OOPS... my bad... who would have thunk it, Casters can infact throw... I went to check this after I posted, and sure enuff, there it is. Dunno WHY they can, but they can.
RE: Throw?
# Oct 18 2001 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
Ummm, ALL intelligence casters have the throw skill. It is not a melee skill.

Marttog Fyrefist
54 Wizard
"The Eternal Flame"
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 20 2001 at 4:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ummm....WTF WOULD YOU WANT TO THROW THIS? Unless u really dont NEED the 50 ac and 15 int IN YOUR RANGE SLOT
# Oct 17 2001 at 11:30 PM Rating: Default
Hay, why do you guys keep talking about rogues when this is a PC item. And you know what let the stupid pc melee a mob and oops it reposited for 450 =p if you high enough lvl to get this item, you wont care about the atk/dly. You'll get it cause it has kick *** stats. Ohhh and if anything gets nerfed, its cause of peeps like you guys who say its to powafull when in all actuality if you can get to this point in the game you'll want these nice items. You llittle lvl 10's getting items nerfed that you will never get makes me want to go crazy cause it's not like you'll ever see the effects of this item!!!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 17 2001 at 11:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hay, why do you guys keep talking about rogues when this is a PC item. And you know what let the stupid pc melee a mob and oops it reposited for 450 =p if you high enough lvl to get this item, you wont care about the atk/dly. You'll get it cause it has kick *** stats. Ohhh and if anything gets nerfed, its cause of peeps like you guys who say its to powafull when in all actuality if you can get to this point in the game you'll want these nice items. You llittle lvl 10's getting items nerfed that you will never get makes me want to go crazy cause it's not like you'll ever see the effects of this item!!!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 17 2001 at 11:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hay, why do you guys keep talking about rogues when this is a PC item. And you know what let the stupid pc melee a mob and oops it reposited for 450 =p if you high enough lvl to get this item, you wont care about the atk/dly. You'll get it cause it has kick *** stats. Ohhh and if anything gets nerfed, its cause of peeps like you guys who say its to powafull when in all actuality if you can get to this point in the game you'll want these nice items. You llittle lvl 10's getting items nerfed that you will never get makes me want to go crazy cause it's not like you'll ever see the effects of this item!!!!!
Gm's are the devil
# Oct 17 2001 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
wow! necro's are going to acutually be usefull in high lvl groups! As a tank!!! =P they should rename this to Omega dagger or something! put a warning label on it saying *WARNING* keep out of reach of rogues!*WARNING* lol these casters get all this nice stuff, but us poor hybrids still have our xp handicap...LIFE ISNT FAIR!(btw i DO know that the two things are totally unrelated so you dont need to cuss me out about how it actually is fair and so forth. =) )
#Delratha, Posted: Oct 18 2001 at 12:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm going to ignore cratequing your poor writing skills and point out to you that hybrids and all classes for that matter had their experience penalties removed via a patch quite a while ago.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 18 2001 at 4:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Obviously you miss the little FACT that hybrid STILL needs more XP to gain levels then any other "pure" class. Why don't you wiseguy go back to the same patch history, check it all out again and also check the XP amounts needed for classes to level, and then start pointing the fingers. And as for your writing, frankly I don't understand what the heck were you trying to say there at the end. Don't cuss on other's writing if you cannot write yourself. Bonehead.
RE: Gm's are the devil
# Oct 18 2001 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
Technically, you are correct - Hybrids do require more experience to level. However, they still level at the same rate as a druid, cleric, or shaman of the same race. The idea is that they originally had a modifier for exp required per level. If Verant removes that modifier, then a level 54 SK will suddenly become a level 57 SK. Instead, they added a bonus to all xp for classes who had a modifier worse than a cleric, druid, or shaman of the same race.

Bottom line? A SK Troll requires more xp to level than a Shaman Troll, but will level at the exact same rate.
RE: Gm's are the devil
# Oct 18 2001 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
Well, in order to stop a flame, I must attempt to correct you all. Hybrid's do require more actual experience points than "normal" classes. It also happens that they get "free" experience each kill based on their original penalties. This has the secondary effect that if there is an experience bonus in the zone, that hybrids will even get a slightly better bonus than other classes. All of this has been stated by the developers.
RE: Gm's are the devil
# Oct 19 2001 at 6:15 AM Rating: Decent
Umm... I think you misunderstood the XP change that was made. The net effect is to almost totally ELIMINATE Class-based XP penalties (Warriors and Rogues get a Bonus and continue to do so) -- and to move the Racial penalty to one that only affects the "expensive race" character. For example, a Human paladin now levels at the same rate as a Human cleric -- if they always group together, they will always ding together. If however they are also with a Troll shaman, the troll will need 20% more exp, and will (very slowly) fall behind. This is how people assumed the experience penalties worked when EQ launched, but it wasn't made so until about 6 months ago.
RE: Gm's are the devil
# Oct 19 2001 at 2:14 PM Rating: Default
192 posts
Ancaglon, I'm not sure exactly how it worked, but there is no effective penalty based on class anymore. Hybrids do still take more exp to level, but they get more exp each kill so it evens out. They did this because if they just changed the exp level requirements, you would suddenly see level 54 SK's jumping to level 57 like has been pointed out by other people. Those numbers still stay in effect because they're lazy and there's no real need to change it.

That's, at least, what I understand. Please don't flame me, just correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: Gm's are the devil
# Oct 18 2001 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
hmm well it would seem that they took my original post down because someone couldn't handle my kidding around.... but thanks for that info guys! had no idea that hybrids got that kind of exp bonus... hmmm now i will go and ponder that as i also ponder why they voted my post off
# Oct 17 2001 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
Not a bad dagger for a caster, and though it was modified in the patch its still nice. It doesnt take many people to hunt in ToV just 1 group but thats only for armor and if your set in place beforehand. Dragons take a rather large amount but not a whole lot as you get bigger on the food chain. Illia although a wonderful person does not have the ability to go to places that are this deep inside ToV. People dont HAVE to post these items from ToV, personally i dont post anything ive ever seen inside ToV or Sleepers because it would have the chance of it getting nerfed because 80% of the game's populace will never get a chance to see it and complain its too powerful.

Rethan Shadowbane
60 Grave Lord of Prexus
Domus Divinae

RE: hmm
# Jan 15 2002 at 3:28 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
Illia's been to N.tov and killed vulak. /cheer
RE: hmm
# Oct 17 2001 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
69 posts
For any of you who are very concerned about this item being too powerful in any way, shape or form - I deliver this message to you. This is indeed a great item, but is a completely reasonable item, and in no way disrupts the natural flow of the game. For these reasons:

1)This item is only usable by pure int casters.
2)50 AC is minimum to see the additional effect on AC at the level required to obtain this.
3)25 STR for a caster, only means 25 stones of extra loot they can lug around.
4)50 mana and 15 INT make par with the rest of the items worth obtaining at this level.
5)Even with a 19/20 weapon, a pure caster will probably only wade into melee under very safe conditions - and they still won't do much damage cause their melee caps are so low.

This is a very nice item for a pure caster and it would be alot of fun to have.
I remember when my druid finally got his paw of opalla (back when people weren't selling them). I was pretty psyched. It made me more powerful, and it changed my game in a significant but not overwhelming way.
Must be pretty exciting to still be able to change your game like that when you're a level 60. Congratulations to the owner of this very fine, exciting item. Enjoy!
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