Robe of the Great Panda  

 

Amazingly enough I just solo'd this and it didn't hurt me, quite suprising as i'm only an 85 cleric!

Killed Giang Yin last night and he dropped 2 of these robes.

The trivial loot code *was* in effect prior to the June 8th patch, Did I miss a change to teh Fironia Vie server trivial loot code?

it should not matter whether or not the player gets exp from the kills. many classes have to farm lower lvl dungeons for pieces to epics regardless of the newbies that want to camp that spot for exp (as well as greed for item, admit it). i cannot even begin to name zones and camps that higher lvls farm day to day for epic stuff or even just quest items. and to relinquish a camp because your not getting exp and newbs want it wont make for very good public relations on verants part. you got there second deal with it

my whole point to the anti farming topic is just look around how many lvl 10-20 casters in crystalline robes...now i know they didnt go camp it themselves more then likely, least not with that char, and like kragmire was saying bout the jboots, there are many times ive gotten that ring from him and mq'ed it with a friend or guildie. now if everything had trivial code to it that would mean at 50+ most of the cyc's and sometimes the ac would be green so does that mean i cant get the ring cause im simply too high up..i already have jboots but i do have a few 50+ friends that dont yet like some melees does that mean they cant get em and have to take 5k of they're money to go buy some that are basically a nerfed version of the same thing simply cause they didnt take the time (which has been 15+ hrs in some cases) to go camp them when they were still allowed...overall my opinion is sure the farming rule isnt bad but not in all cases as long as its done the right way itll work. thats my 2 cp on the matter...

p.s. however in reply to all items in the game being made no drop only good thing i could see coming from that is the stopping of begging from newbies in fp

/rude beggars

I will gladly admit it. You have some good points, not only would farming be cut down but so would twinking. On the downside there would be no twinking and I support a little twinking here and there.
But without being able to buy equipment the game would be a lot harder. I personally hunt for: 1. expience 2. Plat 3. (the last on the list) camping an item.
To me camping an item can be most of the time is long, boring and depressing. You wait one spawn to pop, you kill its placeholder 5 times and then it doesn't drop the item. 5 hours later you camp out to get some sleep. Comeback the next day and get on the waiting list to get into the camp. You get in the camp only to lose the roll. But if the made it so all the named had no placer holder and always drop all of there loot, I guess that would be better. And the non named always drop there usually and usually loot too (bronze has to drop too).
One last problem a large chunk of my encomy comes from selling my old or unused items. Without that chunk I would have to spend an entire 2 day worth of hunting on a player made ring. We won't even think about how long it take me to buy a piece of culture armor.

It's a nice sentiment, but the goal of the game is people interacting on many levels. That would disable many of these levels. The ideal solution (yuk yuk) is for the farmers of the game to move on and find something appropriate to be doing. Unfortuntately the anonymity of the computer eliminates common courtesy from many peoples behavior. The fact is few spoil it for the many so Veriant takes these steps to try to passively control what they do. In a very real sense punishing all of us who try to "be nice".

I was in lower guk the other day when a level 55 monk was basicly camping the entire zone for its named monsters. He had a timer and was running from one place to another killing everything in the room.

People would come in, the room would be empty so they would set up to camp for an item they would need. In two cases that I saw the monsters were blue to the people and they were there in a group. In any case, the baddie would spawn and the monk would run in and kill it before the players that were 20 -25 level lower than him even started to attack. This is a good example of what I stated above.

There is no excuse for a character more than 15 levels higer than the zone supports to come in and take kills away from others. He may have earned his levels, but he sure hasn't earned anyone respect. Basic Loser.

I play a 35th level druid. I am a very casual player. During the warm months I might play 3 hours a week. During the winter I double or triple that. I have been playing since EQ went live and am still very happy with the game in general.

In many of the arguements here people are acting like this in a planned attack against them. In truth veriant is trying to make sure that the roleplay/human interaction parts of the game stay in tact, and those people who play casually and pay the same amount as the avid players get a fair shake.

Yes, agreed it does all that, but at what cost? I think it's downright silly that a high-level is now no longer allowed to get items that he should rightfully be capable of getting. Imagine, for instance, that that code went in retroactively (ie., affected all of Norrath). Wanna try to get a Runed Bone Fork? The Paw of Opolla quest? Karsin Acid (nodrop quest item for the military armour pieces in Velious, drops off level 20 orcs in CC)? God forbid that a player level up to a stage where completing a camp that is a pain in the *** is made easier by the ability to one-hit the mob. All the aforesaid items there can happily be used by 50th level chars, and they all drop (or have quest pieces that drop) off low level mobs.

An example of how this loot rule sucks is the Ball of Burlap Yarn, in Stonebrunt. That is a nice, nice item for anyone of any level who doesn't have a movement-restricting spell (snare, darkness), but you have to be under 25th level get it, and it's nodrop.

Not to mention the fact that it's utterly ridiculous from a realistic perspective. But hey, that's never stopped Verant before (mobs walk through walls and trees in outdoor zones, ignore the z-axis in combat, etc).

So in conclusion, yes, it does stop farming, but the ends doesn't justify the way in which it screws up a LOT of people just to stop a select few.

- R