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Velium Encrusted Gauntlets  

AC: 35
STR: +8 DEX: +8 STA: +8 HP: +75
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)

Item Type:Armor
Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Lucy Entry By:Tiana
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-09 02:31:25
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious

Average Price: 12,500pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is found on creatures.

Kael Drakkel
NPC Name
King Tormax

Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Kael Drakkel

Uploaded December 13th, 2020 by iventheassassin
Updated December 14th, 2020
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# Jun 29 2007 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
Could someone explain how these could ever be worth anything near the prices you find in the Pricing Data section? My God,, 100k for 35 AC and 75 HP.

I've picked up three now and only sell for maybe 1k. The stats just don't warrant anything more.
# Dec 29 2013 at 12:28 AM Rating: Decent
82 posts
Clearly either a newbie to the game or has a very bad memory... only someone who had not been playing the game long would say this.
# Jun 29 2007 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
They are a highly sought after twink item usable at level 1.
# Dec 29 2007 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
yes indeed.Had these on my trader when i made my new monk and they rock.Wont get better till lvl 65 or so.Never sold them for more than 70k though.guess it depends on your server.
monks can tank im afraid
# Aug 15 2005 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
Ok this thread is meant to be a post about the gloves, (which i used to have as a monk and are a great item and twink item still, ac is v.useful because you wont see that kind of ac on monk gloves till Plane of Time) but some people gone offtopic as usual to ***** about the ole

monk vs tanking issue

I tank, ALOT, I tank in zones like mpg 6way, DoN Creator, have even tanked the gardener mob in a simple task (2200 quadder) I barely scrape 10k hps, Im barely into Elemental Planes and yet with the right combo of equipment and aa's I handle tanking alot of the time.

It is not wrong for monks to tank, and I can tank / chain pull too with a good group, example of this is WoS north wall where I can pull ALL 7 named ph on the rotation there (yes 7 not the standard 6 most people have, check under pyriques room for another dragorn named or far girplan spawn beyond tower) I can pull these then tank them as long as group is high dps and ready for it, I dont like having to do this as adds are more likely but hey its possible and im fed up hearing that "i shouldnt because im a monk"

If i can do it, and in 3 hours 25+ runes dropped, why shouldnt I do it? My aggro holding isnt wonderful and an early slow may well take it off me but once i get quadding i will hold it even off equivalent tanks, plus DoN 1200 nuke critting 2400 helps on that score especially for initial aggro.

Oh and I have tanked King Tormax in a raid before and that was sometime ago when I had far inferior equipment.

My aggro holding isnt close to decent tanks nor are my hps, but with a combination of solid avoidance and mitigation and good equipment I can hold my own in most zones, at the higher end of things though I do take more mana than an equivalently geared warrior would tend to and if thats the case I happily bow out and let them tank.

and if its a zone where I know I can tank and pull it solidly I will, reason being I do way more dps than a normal tank, with my epic 1.5 stun now I can interrupt annoying casters who try and gate or heal in much the same way as a paly, so you end up with much faster kills for similar mana expenditure. Another bonus is my whirlwind disc, I can go immune to hits for 15 seconds which can be crucial to get aggro on a big mob and means i can hold off on heals or slows or anyone else hitting for about 10 seconds whilst i gain aggro, thats time for a fair few quads, one nuke and hopefully my procs kicking in.

Anyway alot of this argument is well out of date but people do still persist in saying monks cant or shouldnt tank.

and in the high end game there are 15k + hps monks who are regularly used as rampage tanks and SA but rarely as MA due to defensive and other considerations.

Monks can and should tank IF the situation allows for it effectively.
Teh amulet
# Aug 13 2005 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
Amulet of necropotence can be used as inventory clicky by any class FYI ^_^
These Uber gauntlets
# Jul 06 2004 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
Well, I actually read this thread from top to bottom. The thread is now 3 years old and I just wanna add a new perspective to it 3 years later. Ok, to kinda start at the top - Even 3 years later, Monk epic is a hella nice item and these flappy things come nowhere near them, never did. There are nicer gloves out there now than even the monk epic though, but only given the circumstance, since the monk epic is still great if your soloing or in a group without a haster, so you can self-haste up to 81%, given you have an uber haste item. (Yes, epic does stack with item haste :P) To move on, there is no question that a warrior is by FAR a better tank than a monk - the monks can hold their own in 1-3 tier planes on regular mobs now, but when it comes to boss mobs etc, leave it to the tank classes to take them out. Monks are killing machines, but paper-tanks. Always will be.
As for King Tormax - Well, 3 years ago, it DID take a raid to take him out. Now it can be done with 1 group of well equipped people (Elemental gear). 2 groups of descently equipped people. These old world bosses are cake now in comparison to some of the other stuff we're facing in PoP and GoD/LDoN (Hard). So with a little patience now, everyone could get these things - and in spite of that, they still go for about 70k on the Tunare server. Hope this sheds a bit of 'modern' light on this post.

Brother Knuser Fiduser
65 Transcendent
RE: These Uber gauntlets
# Aug 02 2004 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
took 3 groups to Kael with me as tank and when we fought idol of Rallos Zek we wiped, i fade of course, came back with 5 groups and took a tour of all the named mobs.Unfortunately this guy wasnt up but still old world mobs prove to be tought still even for a 10k tank.
RE: These Uber gauntlets
# Oct 27 2004 at 2:49 AM Rating: Default
difference between a 10k bard and a 8k war is that a war will die slower when being an MT. (mostly due to war aa's and discs).

Tho i do not entirely doubt the magelo link (since i know there are very many very uber people out there who farm high EP and time mobs for all the weaps as well as high lvl GoD zones for the gear), i do not see a magelo authenticity mark. In you defense, non of the augmentations overlap.
RE: These Uber gauntlets
# Dec 19 2004 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
Don't think he asked for personal validation of his Magelo by you, or anyone..
RE: These Uber gauntlets
# May 26 2005 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
I can see the reason for the comment, though. It does look a little over the top. I would love to meet the bard who has unbuffed 10k hps, and carries in his bags all the best illusion gear (not to mention that one of them isn't bard usable to my knowledge... amulet of necropotence?). Though, that being said, I will say that a tank of any class at 10k hps and all his PoP defenses should have no problem with this guy, unless you were doing your 3 groups without a cleric, druid, or shaman in any of them to heal? "Things that make you go hmmm...."
RE: These Uber gauntlets
# Aug 13 2005 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
Part I find amazing is that 3 groups of people with gear like his, somehow managed to wipe on Idol. I've done AoW with 9, with a knight tank, and one of the two clerics was boxed. When we did this, we were still farming Qvic, and hadn't gotten into Tacvi yet.

AoW is the only mob in Kael that I have not 1 grouped. Tormax we did with 4, and a monk tanking. Vindi, Statue, Idol, all one groupable.
misused thread
# Mar 25 2004 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
I came here seeking knowledge about this camp, King Tormax and other solid facts. Instead I get an endless list of farkin IDIOTS gumming up the msg board with crap posts. Thank you for wasting my time. Thank you for wasting this website's thread with your pointless debate.

IF i had wanted to see more useless, uninformed, pig-headed BS there is NO shortage of places to visit. I come here for info. So the next time you want to post some brain-dead opinions...stand up, walk away from the computer, run in to traffic and play a while.
RE: misused thread
# May 24 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
It's a real shame that you don't feel more stongly about this. Get some passion in your life dude!
RE: misused thread
# Apr 16 2004 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
30 posts
Thankyou for that valuable information.
RE: misused thread
# Apr 16 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
BRAVO tedpat, that was the own of all owns, you win my "pwn of the person who trys to pwn" award, thank you. i salute you.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 20 2003 at 1:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Saw someone trying to sell these for 180k today on fennin. hahahhahhahaha.
Monk uber not warrior uberest (is that a word?)
# Mar 03 2003 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
I hate to say it but I have seen a Warrior with 2205 ac and 7800 plus hps. So to the point of monks being more uber with high end gear, your sinply wrong, warriors will always carry more hps and ac then any other class in game. It depends on the gear. I play an SK and I have more hps and ac then a lot of warriors and monks. Remember its "all in the gear' and a little of what you started with.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 03 2003 at 11:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh yeah and that us also unbuffed I might add.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 03 2003 at 11:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh yeah and that us also unbuffed I might add.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 03 2003 at 11:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I hate to say it but I have seen a Warrior with 2205 ac and 7800 plus hps. So to the point of monks being more uber with high end gear, your sinply worng, warriors will always carry more hps and ac then any other class in game. It depends of the gear. I play an SK and I have more hps and ac then a lot of warriors and monks. Remember its "all in the gear' and a little of what you started with.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 20 2002 at 11:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Riiiiggghhhttt monks take awesome hit wait a little after they draw aggroe they die oohh yeah Furor veeshan server 1700+ac 5000+ hps Unbuffed
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 01 2003 at 4:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So nobody (pun intended) realizes who Furor is? Im gonna believe him before anyone. All hail the divine might of FoH. heh heh heh
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 18 2003 at 2:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know some monks that have nearly as much HP as some gimp level 65 warriors. Please post what's relevant to the topic at hand or concerning the item.
# Mar 14 2002 at 11:39 PM Rating: Default
18 posts
Hmm, yes these items are definitely not worth swapping out the Monk epic for. They could have 60 AC, I wouldn't trade out my epic for 'em.
As for Monks tanking, you really are living in a dillusion of your own if you think Monks aren't geared to take a hit. Granted, for the most part, our gear isn't aimed at making us the main tank, however at the highest end of the game, there are quite a few uber Monks that have more HP's and higher AC than equally uber Warriors. Yes, that's right, not best equipped Monks and lvl 30 warriors, I said the BEST of Warriors and Monks and the Monks can have higher HP's & AC.

The guilds that are killing these mobs have such Monks, and they, like myself, for the most part have their epics and wouldn't trade theirs for the gauntlets either. Moral of the story, if a Monk involved in this kill did not have their epic (unlikely) then sure, these would be decent gauntlets but for the most part, no they are not a Monk item. I just grow weary of seeing people busting on Monks because of the actions/words of a few imbeciles that only look at the weight of an item. For pete's sake, get off your trusty steed that Monks can't take a hit, we do it alot better than rangers and rogues and in the right equipment (let's not forget we have Block, Block is 2x Parry) we can do it better than Warriors. Thank you for your time and may your relatives send the lot of you fruit cakes for Christmas, at least those of you with nothing constructive to say.
RE: ...
# Apr 10 2003 at 5:23 AM Rating: Default
Yay, hi, gonna give you credit since this post is 1 year old, but with high end chanter haste + ranger buffs (which don't stack with epic) these gloves make monk epic look like crapola on a stick.... Monk epic is finally being somewhat phased out for raiding purposes at least..... thank god.
RE: ...
# Apr 17 2003 at 10:29 PM Rating: Default
Click on Celestial Fists stacks with VoG, but not SoV. VoG is a very nice haste, and with my AA lasts near an hour. In short, monks will still keep their epic in the hand slot.
RE: ...
# Feb 28 2004 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
I would have to disgree, only a single casted haste stacks. The buff icons may remain as many hastes proveide stat buffs such as ATK, AGI, etc. the icons remain so you retain all these staticistical enhancements. However the HIGHEST % casted haste always supercedes all other casted hastes. likewise with worn haste you would still get the stats on SCHW and (for example) rogue epic but only the HIGHEST % HASTE of the two would take effect.
RE: ...
# Dec 25 2002 at 8:37 PM Rating: Good
Im sorry but i totally disagree with your "fact" that monks get more hp then tanks. If you take a war thats uber his hp will be way over that of a monks.
Dont get me wrong, i love monks and evrything they can do, but theres no way a monk gets more hp then a tank in the high end game.
if you take a monk with 100 hp in every slot with max sta and a war with the same, war will have more HP, and if you add HP AA's war will get even more hp.
thats all i have to say about that =)
RE: ...
# Sep 10 2002 at 2:31 PM Rating: Default
One of our monks tanked Dozekar for 3/4 of the fight last time we fought him. Sloppy, yet effective...

#REDACTED, Posted: May 21 2002 at 2:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ARE U A ******* IDIOT!! FUROR HAS AROUND 1800 AC AND PUSHED 8KHP NO MONK COMPARES TO THAT OR COMES CLOSE!
RE: ...
# Jul 19 2002 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
Hmm...maybe you should go to FoH website and see the post furor made about monks being better tanks that warriors if monks just had defensive. The thing that makes monks better tanks is not the hps and ac but its another defensive skill, block. Block makes them take quite a bit less dmg if it just wasnt for defensive.
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 28 2001 at 7:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) still dont understand why these uber monk *gloves* drop, what friggen monk would want these, epic blows any monk useable gloves away. And mister lvl 60 monk with no epic, I believe I must say your a lying sack of @$#* and if your not, your dumb as @*!#, Plain And Simple.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2002 at 12:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You obviously don't play a monk.
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 04 2001 at 10:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) <----level 60 monk who's NEVER
No drop?
# Sep 09 2001 at 6:11 PM Rating: Default
Seems to me somethin like this should be another no drop piece, not like it matters, if you did take Tormax down you certainly didnt do it alone...just think about what your friends in Uber Guild "X" would do when they heard you sold them
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 17 2001 at 1:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) these are indeed the stats of the gloves. I currently have the only pair on the Rathe server after we killed him last week.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 16 2001 at 10:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) sumbuddy trandlate dis fu kinglink and da odda dumba oggas fu me oday? FA-Q. dat ting der sumbuddy wun me to gib tu joo. dat FA-Q cobas ebryting joo need to noe. i chell mychelf da odda day "joo noe yue dun hab to reed dem posts ebryday...dey make yue cry all da time but me cant help it nun" joo guys say dem funny tings all da time. sumting about dis item no hab da weight and ebryting hab mass... HARHARHAR. in da reel libe dis ting weighs less dan 0.000445 stones so dat mean we normally round up OR DOWN like in da real libe and we just say it dun weigh a ting(( we rounded down to zero here)). tell dat to dat dumb guy who forgut how to be smort like me da ogga - he dun noe dey rounded down???- HARHARHAR phew dat funny ting he say again. he need to mub to my serva so he can tell dem jokes fur us. me will hab to leabe joo guys now to lebel up my warria, but i will be bak lada to see sum mo of da posts dat make me laff al da timez. me gun call joo out now guys who i tink joo tink yue funny but yue make me laff at jue in dat odda way harharhar
RE: dat rite, me bak fu joo
# Dec 07 2001 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
215 posts
That was the hardest message for me to read.. lol. I dont understand ogre very well. :)
# Aug 16 2001 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
FYI Relg is a ranger on Rallos Zek and would not post a fake item. Furthermore, if they still do loots like they did before they formed the guild, loot is decided on an hours-based system, so that the people who go to the most events get first choice on loot, the result of which is a loss of available hours to 'spend.'
Post something useful about items people
# Aug 14 2001 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
Who gets an item will be decided by those that kill the mob and it drops, not who you think should get it. For once in your lives post something thats not a total waste to read :P
I know this is like your dumb *** posts but I've gotten sick of reading monk this druid that crap day in day out.

Nuff said
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 16 2001 at 3:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just a reminder, this is a site for information as well as debate over items, quests, etc.
Would a monk really ues?
# Aug 14 2001 at 3:26 PM Rating: Default
They would have to give up their epic in order to use. As a guild leader myself, I would have serious poblems awarding this to a monk with epics. If you are in the level to be able to kill King Tomax, there are several other items you can reasonable get to boost a monks AC. We killed King Tomax a few days ago, unfotuantely these did drop. We got the Head, the piercer, a bracer, and the Axe.

Velecia Everlost High Priestess
GL of Shades of Fire
RE: Would a monk really ues?
# Aug 18 2001 at 4:11 AM Rating: Default
Well if it makes you feel any better, if I had my epics I would not use these =)

Olyy Monk 18
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 9:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hell yeah! Give em to someone who would really appreciate a BARD, man! Theres a class that would kiss your *** for weeks if you let em have these!
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 1:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) deffinatly a monk item, that ac it great, it can make up for the smaller AC BPs that monks get compared to Warriors/all other tanks
RE: monk
# Jan 22 2002 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
sorry ennio you said somthing absolutley stupid and im gonna have to lower your posting karma...
the anonymous poster has the right idea... you my friend do not... saying monks are another tanking class ha ha ha. and kabaar youre an idiot too. "I pull a thing than kill it, than i'm healed and pull again" what kind of idiot are you... you are NOT THE ONLY ONE DOING DMG. I just went on an arena raid tho im a bit low and personally i saw how much the Lower named giants did with an enrage before i turned off auto atk 320 dmg and im thinking that was a weak hit. I would expect A LOT MORE dmg from Tormax (i wouldnt be there if they intended to go kill him) and saying you pull kill get healed and pull again is a load. You might pull up until the main assist is in range then fd and let him take the pounding. You dont need the ac Nearly as much as the poor guy whos gotta take the hits in the longrun. and your taunt comment... if you get aggro from fight you FD! what a moron... absolutley stupid not knowing your role in a group. pull fd get up after MA has shouts he has aggro and to assist then melee, personally i think the people who get the worst beatings are the casters who overnuke way to early and get slaughtered while MA tries to taunt it off... well this was a longwinded post and i might adjust it as time goes on... maybe the 2 posts will be removed and i wont have to post any further.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 16 2001 at 7:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "...the smaller ac BP's that monks get compared to warriors and all other tanks." Just finding it funny that you are obviously counting monks as tanks. There's a reason that monks has lower ac than tanks (note that monks are NOT included under that description) and it's the same reason as rogues having lower ac than tanks: they are damdealers that are specialized in their field and thereby forgo some of the advantages of the warrior or shadow knight. Sorry about this but I couldn't help myself, you are not the only one to have this misconception but you simply don't know your roll in a group. Personally I would scream if I got a rogue in group that hasn't learned to use evade
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 25 2001 at 10:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well dude I dunno what class u are, but hell yeah I would kick the **** out of you:) no matter who you are, monks are born to kill, you know what I do? i pull a thing than I kill it, than i'm healed and I go pull again, sure I cant taunt, but dude if I have a 9/9 weapon you gonna say the taunt skill will do something? or hey if I use my 29/30 weapon you say I wont kill anything?!
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 5:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Har r hopin u not write dis wit straight face.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 11:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have a SERIOUS question, one that should be talked about and discussed, not ignored. How can these bracers have 0.0 weight? YES I KNOW IT DOES! but in the real world when an item is, it must have mass and mass is effected on by gravity. It there for has weight. (and norrath is based on a real world) has there been any discussion of this, I am sure there is a reason (other wise it should have a .1)
RE: Serious Question
# Aug 17 2001 at 2:06 AM Rating: Decent
I have your answer friend..If this were real world most everyone here would be assasinated for casting unworldly spells on each other. Oh! that's right... Casting spells is only folk lore...So, if we can cast spells then I guess an item can weigh zero..

18th Season druid
Still able to recognize reality..
RE: Serious Question
# Aug 14 2001 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
The answer to your question is so obvious, I wonder why you even bothered to ask.

This has 0.0 weight so that selfish, whiny monks can be spotted and set apart from the rest of the decent monk community. Quite clever of Verant to make these items, IMO. It provides an easy way to tell who's a jerk and who's not, so you know who to invite to future runs (and who NOT to invite).
Decent, level-headed monks will roll on it. Childish, hot-headed monks will complain, whine, or ninja loot it as a last resort. Or even worse, roll on it and lose, and then whine about it for the next two hours, ugh.
The latter are the type of monks I don't invite to be my puller in Seb, or Velk, or anywhere for that matter. They may pull when/what they're not supposed to or just be a plain bad puller, besides the general annoyance factor.

That can all be avoided by inviting the nicer, more mature monk-type person to pull, and then everyone's happy because we all know how to share, and only take what we need/can use instead of rolling on every piece of ph4t l3wt that drops. =)

Now doesn't it make more sense?

P.S. FYI, EQ isn't the real world. Just thought I'd give you a heads up, that sort of thing could cause you some real problems.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 11 2002 at 12:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not too bright are ya, Kami?
RE: Serious Question
# Aug 15 2001 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
GREAT answer. But EQ is based on our world as they try to make a lot of stuff possible, that is why you don't have magic guns or a boss, you have a world you live in and a lot of the stuff is from our world and such.

Come on didn't you eat edible goo in high school.. sure they called it macaroni and cheese but you should have known better!

but over all your answer is the best. (even though magic is not included)
RE: Serious Question
# Aug 14 2001 at 11:40 AM Rating: Default
84 posts
I'll answer your question with one word

#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 16 2001 at 8:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That was 8!
RE: Serious Question
# Aug 14 2001 at 11:37 AM Rating: Default

A SERIOUS question like this one about a frikkin' game?? NO DISCUSSION FOR J00!! Your comment deserves to be ignored AND flamed!

Long Unnecessary Explanation for 0 weight GAUNTLETS! (not bracers...check the picture): Mebbe dey gots huge anti-grav units attached to their undercarriage. These units will exert enough force to render the gauntlets and the units themselves effectively weightless (if not mass-less). Due to the cumbersome size of these units, it places an increased delay of plus 550 ticks on all melee combat.

Mid-Sized "Wha-wha-Whaaat?" Explanation for 0 weight GAUNTLETS!: These guantlets, like all other items in Everquest, are made of computer-generated data and graphical elements. Thusly, they would not have any appreciable weight.

Short Explanation for 0 weight GAUNTLETS!: It's MAAAA-GIC !

Don't mind me...I'm grouchy 'cuz I'm hungry, my savings account decided to just DISAPPEAR, and haven't got any in at least six months... grrr.

Khemosaabe "SPAM" Longbow (of Cazic Thule server)
Lvl 51 Ranger and Slayer-of-Bunny-Wabbits
"The more I miss, the meaner I get!"
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 12:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh and I forgot to be a little bit of a jerk.. you can't loose mass.. only weight.. everything has mass!!! arghhhhh :) only teasing, but since your hungry go ahead and call me physics boy!
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 12:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Too bad your on Cazic-Thule i could have made you some edible goo or rat sandwiches if you were on my server :) good luck on finding your money. most likely your going to have to yell and scream at the bank to get it back (but if you want us rogues have an "Easy" way to get the money back)
The upgrade to GoFM
# Aug 14 2001 at 8:53 AM Rating: Default
69 posts
These gaunts are the same as Gauntlets of Fiery Might (Lord Nagafen Drop) with higher stats. GoFM on Bertox go for around 30k, so 20k can't be near accurate for these (except maybe on a PvP server).
GoFM are THE gaunts for Monks, at least until their epic, SoV quest gloves, and now these.
I can assure you of 2 things I'm quite certain of:
1) These gloves are very, very real
2) Sadly, no bard will ever come anywhere near owning a pair of these (or GoFM for that matter)

Drumma Synaesthesia
47 Bard
Maxxroach Windrunner
52 Druid
Bertox server
RE: The upgrade to GoFM
# Jun 30 2002 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry to have to prove you wrong, but I am a bard and have owned and used Guantlets of Fiery Might. I decided to sell them later to upgrade other gear when I got Singing Steel for the effect while doing KK. So Bards will and sometimes do use them.

Dwyvneth Songweaver

Minstrel of the 54th song

Scions of Veeshan (Nameless)
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 1:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why won't a bard wear them?
Best for (insert class here) !!!!
# Aug 13 2001 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
1,075 posts

These are the best for any of the classes listed really and this is kind of one of the reasons why I quit EQ.

In the very high level game you go and get stuff like this with like 45 people. Maybe enough things drop for 3 or 4 people yet 45 - 60 are there. Your guild has to either let everyone who can use roll (which is looked upon poorly by freaks who attend every guild event) or they have to have some convoluted "tier" system which is also pretty unfair and often biased and by "feeling" rather than real participation (and of course excludes anyone with a life who can't make every guild event)

An item like this off of King tormax, your guild is probably going to get like once. Its going to have a lot of other stuff to do and maybe get back to king tormax some year. Of course now you can't supposedly charm giants to beat on other giants in kael as well so he is not going to be as easy to kill either.

So via rolling which will make lots of people mad or via a tier system/rolling combo which will make everyone mad who participates a lot but is not at the very top, one person will get these very rare very good gloves. If the guild, as they often do, uses ANY system but just free rolling what happens is that pretty much the same uber people within the guild get best item after best item. To cap that off many are not droppable (these are but you probably can't picture the person getting anything better in the forseeable future)

I think this makes EQ very, very broken. There is no way to distribute such things fairly and the same classes or same people will always go without.

For example, as with these items, hardly no uber loot is druid only or even includes druid and if ANY is its also cleric shaman and somebody else. This makes druid one of the least rewarded classes of all since no matter what convoluted system your guild uses on these RARE items that a druid CAN use its going to be competing with a VERY high reward class like clerics. I don't know about your guild but I never once heard my guild say, "But since our druids have jack crap, they should be the only ones to roll." Instead we 54 - 60 level druids, virtually none of us with ANY kind of planes armor in our main body parts (tunic or legs), but instead wearing our "uber" shrouds of nature, kromriff military leggings (a quest which I found on allakhazams 30 minutes after it was posted by someone I LOVE WHOEVER YOU ARE ;) then made DANG SURE that every druid in my guild heard about it and got help getting them) and in some cases even a BCP (oh the shame...) have to often roll against the clerics in our guild who have not ONE, but TWO ENTIRE SETS OF PLANE ARMOR, first ethreal and now POG.

Broken broken broken I say.
The only thing that would save this game, or make me consider starting my account up again, was if in Luclin instead of having this SUPER UBER fantastic loot that drops once in a billion off a super duper uber mob, they had much lower versions of loot like this that you could get in a quest a couple people could help you with or a mob a couple people could help you kill.

An example of what I'm talking about are the coldain gloves and boots in thurg. Those are a very good quest which was done a few times by my druid, another druid and an sk buddy of ours. We all got a pair of the gloves and boots. We two druids of course, not having anything even remotely that uber at level 54 or 55, wore ours while the sk traded his for something he wanted or for money. It was a good fairly instant reward quest only based upon the difficulty of the mob but it was not so difficult that 3 middle 50's people could not do it at some risk. If there were more quests or mobs like that, my druid would never complain about planes gear but there are not.

I think, more likely than not, that Luclin will once again have trashy items which are very low level then super uber items like these gloves here which are off a super mob that it takes an entire guild to kill to reward 2 people yet have NOTHING in the middle which a few people can quest for/kill for. EQ just always misses the mark in that way and just keeps adding more and more uber stuff for an entire army to have to fight over. It would be like if you were a barbarian hoarde and completely sacked rome and you got 4 things to distribute amongst your hoarde.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
well id just like to say i do agree to some extent with what he says but i mean cmon what do ya expect if i recall druids are like the most played class out of any on most of the servers (cept maybe clerics) so if ya dont like the fact you cant get "phat lewt" with your druid go make a "necessary class" then and get over it
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 6:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I like the fact the Druids do not get to equip much of the "uber loot" as you put it. It seems fair to me since the Druid class is by far the easiest and most unbalanced class in the game.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 10:55 AM Rating: Default
Dudes, Druid is easier but not that much. I play one I get good groups but it is not that much easier.. a meleeier is easier as all it really has to do is watch their life, a druid has to do EVERYTHING it can in the group or the group says it is slacking.. "You didn't heal that dude and he died" "well sorry I was trying to buff, and SOE (strength of earth) and DOT and SOW and got out of Mana. BTW why don't you ask the Cleric about it?" true game situation (yes it did happen and yes I quit that lame grou) NO wonder everyone thinks we can solo everything because groups expect us to do everything. We arn't uber. we arn't easy and we arn't that special we are a jack of all trades but not great at anything in particular. trust me Soloing is harder then group work. you have to be good to do it and can't do it everwhere. Try a druid before you complain again, please.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
Yeah or you could play a paladin who has no idea at all about the high end game and no idea of the druid class either :p

Necros, druids and magicians "can" solo even as high as 55, sometimes faster than other classes, if they know where to hunt. But they should group so they can gradually learn the tactics for the high end game. They pay for being "unbalanced" as Mr Pally calls it, by not having many raid-essential spells at 50+ when melees, bards, shamans, clerics, chanters and lately even wizards become needed - and the druids, magicians and necros are often only wanted for transport, coth and cr.

I play lots of the classes (warrior, monk and druid at high level) and class discrimination is just about the joint most pathetic thing in EQ alongside newbie beggars and killstealers. So just ignore the newbie bigot above cos he has no idea what hes talking about when it comes to the high end game - he probably only just started grouping in Guk.

Giliad Stormdancer / Adrik Wolfheart / Quiss
Tul Acharn, Rodcet Nife
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# Aug 14 2001 at 12:16 PM Rating: Default
Class discrimination... Wow! I never thought I would hear about that from a Druid player.

Let me tell ya'll about it. Try a Ranger. I love mine, but you haven't experienced discrimination like this. People telling you, " Sorry, you are Ranger, we need a real asset, not a res *****." or just kicking you out of full groups to accomodate another class.

Ranger = 1/3rd Warrior and 1/4 Druid....missing something somewhere... but fun as all get out!
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# Aug 14 2001 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
So, ah, you quit eq because you couldnt get ahold of the uber loot? Why not just play the game for the fun of playing the game, as opposed to just trying to get the 'high score'...

Herring Redbone
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# Aug 14 2001 at 5:39 AM Rating: Default
Heh, I just wanna' say that, while I have no idea what you were talking about due to the fact I'm a complete newb, you spelled all your words really if we could just get that guy that's flaming you to try it the same, we'd be making some progress =)
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 4:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im glad this guy quit,now if he'd only stop posting on EQ boards...
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 4:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WTF is this? Another greedy little druid complaining that he doesn't get uber loot from every mob that his guild kills?? Druids don't deserve good loot, they only deserve to stick with farming low level green mobs for their ph4t L3wts that other peeps of the appropriate level could camp and actually get xp from too. I have to laugh everytime I see one of those pathetic mid 50s druids camping the AC in ocean of tears saying stuff like... "it's for my RL friend... it's for my guildy"... then you see him the same night in north freeport /shouting WTS multi quest rights to Jboots. Druids are ultimately worthless, Verant should just delete the class.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 9:46 AM Rating: Default
Excuse me Mr. Anonymous but i think its pretty pathetic that you are small minded enough to be biased against a whole class in EQ. To say that "all druids do this" or "No druids deserves this" is just stupid. There are plenty of druids who don't spend all the time camping green mobs for thier "ph4t L3wts" as you call them. Actually it doesn't even matter what you think, because i doubt youll ever even be a leader on a high end raid, so you won't have to worry about who should get what loot.

Also if your going to say something insulting, at least have the guts to not be anon.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
May I ask what boots and gloves quest in Thurg you are talking about? All Thurg quests for boots and gloves are no drop as far as I know. If your talking about the Coldain Skin Boots and Gloves then I would refer those as a Kael quest. I am just a curious if there are some nice quests I missed so far, hehe.
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# Aug 14 2001 at 11:37 AM Rating: Good
He was refering to the Coldain Skin Gloves, and Coldain Skin Boots. And you're right, they are a Kael quest, but I'm sure it was an honest mistake :)
# Aug 13 2001 at 10:53 PM Rating: Default
Any melee would kill for these!! Especially a Monk (who didnt have their epic.. Course..Even then.....)!

The stats kick butt, and the saves always help! And AC35??!?! I think I just wet myself.

Just my 2cp worth.

Zaddar (40th Warrior)
Dominus Vitae
The Seventh Hammer
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