Flowing Thought is an EFFECT. Not all mana regen is called flowing thought. The effect flowing thought caps at 15, all other MANA REGEN effects or spells are seperate and they all count on top of it.
Not quite. All worn mana regen is capped at 15. So if you had FT14 and then Composure (3mana regen 3 hps regen), you would be at FT15, and not get the 2 more mana regen from composure.
Proof will be hard to come by, since they had one set of FT stacking rules a while ago and another today (supposedly).
As far as my sources go, all FT worn items will stack up to 15 max. According to them,t here is also a Flowing thought hard cap of 20. If it were possible to get all the way up to 37, like in previous posts, the mana regen would be insane. Come on, think about it, you would notice a major difference between FT 17 and FT 37 if it were possible.
I have 2 FT items, one is FT1 and the other is FT3. Together is makes FT4. You can look at my magelo profile and see where is says Regen of mana 4 per tick (FT4), then look at my earring (FT1) and my shoulder item (FT3). Hope this helps. http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=309531
Incorrect.... all FT Stacks up to the CAP which is FT 15, if it dosent create a buff I.E. Coldain Shawl it counts twards the FT Cap, but lets say if it creates a buff.. emp robe(kodiac's robe of hightend focus[sp?]) which right click buff. it dosent count etc
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All FT items stack so if you have 4 FT1 items then you get a total of FT4. You can have up to a total of FT17 with all your items. And these items will stack with clarity line of spells and mask of hunter/stalker(FT3) and PotG/PotC(FT6). With slime boots (FT3) Earring of Solstice (FT1) and the 7th shawl (FT1) PotG (FT6) Mask of the Hunter/Stalker (FT3) mental clarity 3(AA skill)(FT3) I have 17 mana regen and add on KEI (FT17) that shoots up to 34 mana regen on a raid. So all the mana regen items are nice because they stack I am a mana regening machine on raids and there are alot of people out there with more FT items than me. Just my 2cp
You're wrong ft1 items do stack, what would be the point of having them if they didn't? You'd have to get ft1 ft2 ft3 ft4 ft5 etc to have the cap. All FT items stack up to a total of 15
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Posted:Apr 30 2002 at 9:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WOW!! that is like a dream item for a druid...
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Posted:Apr 28 2002 at 3:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's quite amazing how much i hate all of you newbies. if you are below lvl 55 you should not be allowed to post your clueless comments on any items that come from uber or "non-******" zones. please die. please please.
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Posted:Sep 05 2001 at 1:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have just one thing to say about this mask..WOW!! I like...but since Im 31st lvl there might be better stuff for someone in the 50's so im not sure but what i see now i really want one of these...:o) Good hunting and safe journey to all
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Posted:Aug 09 2001 at 9:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am a avid supporter of newbie posting on high lvl items but crap like that monk item post goes against everything i stand for. Crap posts like that are no funny and not ok no matter who you are.
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Posted:Aug 01 2001 at 4:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What's with all these people posting anon? You'd think that they would have the guts to at least put their name before they flame you.
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Posted:Oct 08 2003 at 8:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WRONG item to post under, why are the monks always whining...oh yeah i wont heal them
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 8:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Besides being for Bards! I say the low-rent KKK drop-out racist wannabe who posted that remark at the end of his monk, monk, speil should be shot!
#Anonymous,
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#Anonymous,
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THIS IS A MONK ITEM! ALL ******* SHOULD BE DRUG OUT INTO THE STREETS AND SHOT! THEY ARE RUINING THE ECONOMY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL ON WELFARE!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 5:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Come on, look at the stats, look at the weight...This REALLY should be MONK useable. Flowing thought sucks anyhow.
#Autolycos,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 7:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you guys are IDIOTS! Its a running joke here at Alakhazam's to say that somehting is a monk item. You should know what your talking about before you flame him! I mean CHRIST! LOOK AT HIS NAME!!!!! If you knew why he said this, you would find it very amusing. WTG Imajokin!
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 12:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It wasn't funny the first time, and I doubt highly it ever will be. Quit wasting our time children. I hope to God that some day Illia finds some way to either A.)Stop these idiots from posting or B.)stops allowing anyone to post anon, and have people rate the person so as to eventually be able to stop them from posting all together. /sigh /rude
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 11:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yeah but the joke isn't funny at all.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 6:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My first guess would be sarcasm actually. Or at least one would pray to all the gods that be that's the case. Otherwise um </shudder> um...ack.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 2:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /gasp! it doesnt have -15cha like the other ones laf =P
if you had this item, and say Cazic's brain would you recieve +2 mana a tic, with the 7th shawl do you get +3? Just curious because I don't recall anyone ever touching on that. It probably works the same way haste does, but who knows.
Flowing Thought I adds 1 extra mana per tick, Flowing Thought II adds 2 extra mana per tick, Flowing Thought I will stack with Flowing Thought II, for a combined extra +3 mana per tick. Having more than 1 Flowing Thought I item does not increase your mana regen, neither does having more than 1 Flowing Thought II item.
The both stack with breeze/clarity/clarity II and (AFAIK) bard's mana regen.
Breeze is +6 mana/tick, Clarity is +11 mana/tick and Clarity II is +17 mana/tick, so, while these items are helpful, they aren't going to be putting enchanters out of the crack business any time soon.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 2:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There's no item that has been found with Flowing Thought III. Only two items I know of have Flowing Thought II. One is a hybrid only helm from the 10th step of the Coldain ring quest. The second is the boots you get when you turn Tormax's head into Yelinak. There are a few Flowing Thought I items off Cazic, and no other flowing thought items in the planes.
In defense of the above post, At the time of posting (you can see the date on the banner bar, right below the subject line), there really were no items with higher than FT2, at least, none that had been discovered and made widely known. Luclin's release has greatly increased the number of FT items in general, especially those with FT3 or higher.
The reason clarity doesn't work for bards is because they have a meditate skill that is locked at zero.....you get some effect from it but not like casters do. (i.e.) you get the boost from clarity but with the amount of manna ya have it doesn't seem like it
one. my bard has 800+ mana. I would realize a "boost". Second. Bards meditate skill is actually capped at 1 not zero. Third. Nothing effects a bards mana regen except sitting. Bard mana regen is horrible. By the time my 51 bard regens 800 mana my 55 wizard could med from empty to full 5+ times easily. I agree a high mana regen on bards could unbalance them, I do "wish" they change it so FT items did have an effect. They are fairly difficult to get anyway.
I hope you're not saying that clarity doesn't stack with bard regen because as a cleric, I'll tell you that with Clarity and bard playing mana song....wow it's like being on every drug at the same time how fast your mana goes up.
No, no, no. This person is asking the effect will actually speed a bard's mana regen for themselves. Since no other spells in the game can effect a bard's mana (in my experience, mana-draining spells don't work on bards, just like mana-giving ones don't) i would assume that they hard coded it that way, and the effect of flowing thought wouldn't be any differant. That's my thinking anyway.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jun 25 2001 at 11:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am sorry, I am a bit confused. Where are you getting this base of 1 from? I assume that is standing mana regen (or mana regen if you, for some insane reason, diddn't train the meditate skill), but that is not really going to be relavent considering that most people have decided that it was a good idea to invest a training point in the meditate skill.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 7:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'd just like to point out that likely most of the people posting the idiotic monk posts aren't likely even playing monks. I feel really embarassed since my primary character is a monk because of this. Please just ignore the drooling morons and their posts, and maybe they will go away.
Yes these people aren't likely monks. However, I would like to point out that these sarcastic posts are made by people who honestly watched people react fairly similarly (granted now it's completely absurd) on any item posted on this board with low weight. I even remember a few monks stating the same types of things over things that weighed 1.5. Go figure. I get tired of items being stereotyped anyway. It's all such a PitA. Some items are obviously designed for certain classes but there are also many good items that are good for any of the classes the item is usable by.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 7:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG THIS SOOO SCREAMS MONK ITEM !! ITS WEIGHT IS UNDER 1 !! OMG !!! IT HAS WISDOM AND INT FOR MY TRADE SKILLS !!
As much as I hate to encourage him..He is right..This item WOULD be good for monks if monks could use it..Nice AC, Good STA, good saves, INT/WIS would help for my Tailoring and Brewing
(Oldfashioned? hell yah..But I can make Black Panther Skin baby--I should be able to atleast, cant get all the stuff.)
It all in all would make a fair monk item..but chang Flowing Though I effect to Regeneration and this will be wanna-be uber like the Fungi Tunic is! YAH! I SAID THAT!...I want my Skyshrine Tunic...Just forget Flying kick and jam that during battle til I get my epic..Then alternate
.......Insanity isn't caused by drugs, its caused by seeing Monk spam
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 7:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just because it is low weight it doesn't mean that a monk should automatically have it. Look at the wisdom and int. on this. This would also be a nice thing for us casters.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 6:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) why would you want this when you can go get the shawl quests? the shawls, yes they're a bit expencive as you have to learn all the trade skills, but its probably about as difficult to do and you dont have to be 55+ to get there.
After all, to get good Dwarf faction (and do parts of the quest) you have to kill Giants... which also gives you good Dragon faction, which you need to do this quest.