do you guys have problems with monks instead of being pissed off at uss monks cause we can use an item be bit*h at verant there the ones who decided what classes can use it
yeah of course a monk COULD use this. The wieght is an awful lott for a monk, and i don't care what anyone else says. IFS is around the same wieght as this maybe a little heavier. 38 dmg, 40 dly beats the crap outta 32,38.
As of this message I'm in upper dogs in velks with boon, AQ, and a crap 2hb..We're ahead of the spawn so guess what..Im working 2hb
You don't always have to med. I'm staying about 70m and we're having fun yanking aggro from each other.
Melee isn't just for warriors, monks, ect. I might not be good at it but I'm not putting my group in danger and I'm adding a lil damage without wasting mana.
My personal opinion why these should got to monks, hybrids & non taunting warrior period.
High Delay = less agro (yes less damage but live longer! Better DOT in the long run)
Seen 1/4 if the agro since switching to brawl stick instead of using a Wu's stick & fist while fighting in KC. Let the cleric do a complete heal on somebody worth while instead of chain healing your butt.
PS - Only reason to have this on a caster is for show, farming, PVP & easily controlled raids (yes full mana sucks!) Though it would be funny to see a enchanter hit for 80-100 pp of dam.
Yes I'm a monk. Yes I was awarded this wonderful item, but only because I didn't have a 2hb previously. And yes it is a wonderful weapon item for any of the classes listed.
Dropped off a Chetari *something* (sorry forgot which kind). Approx level critter 50-53.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 19 2001 at 3:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why dont you ppl who keep bashing monks dont STFU! Not all monks are like that, and it pisses me off to read ppl bashing on the class that I play as my main character, so STFU, and take a moment to think, when you are in lets say, PoH, what class is usually the puller? Yup, the monk. So just STFU... losers.
Please, this is SO obviously a necro item! I mean, look at it! We can even use it and it's probably got a better damage delay than any other weapon we can get! I mean, we melee all the time and never med. That's what necros do.
Please, this is as much a necro item as it is a monk item. I really hate monks. 90% of them are greedy lewt mongers. OMG IT SAYS MNK IN THE PICTURE THIS IS A MONK ITEM!!! No, it's a necro item. *wink*
There are much better weapons for us. There are much better weapons for you too. But it DOES look cool. If I happened to have one for some reason, I'd use it just for kicks from time to time. But I'd never use it when it counted.
MY friend was watching the BotB and he told me that some necro shreded another with one of these just thought you'd like to know that hehe. But as for who it goes to most raid would award this to any monk who doesn't have a ifs or tstaff because they are one of the few who use 2hbs at high levels for meleeing if every monk in the raid had this or better then they would prolly give it to a warrior or some tank but it's doubtful. This is a cool weapon but not everyone should get a chance at it because most likely it will sit in a caster's bank and collect dust like every other weapon they own
Brawl sticks just rock... On Fennin Ro using crafted velium brawl stick (30/38) and avatar (and i think focus of spirit, think they stack) my enchanter hits for 127 dmg... i use a tola robe and WR to get haste up to 106% (think it caps at 104% tho) and i just own ;) ksed a groups dar from zone in in old sebilis using that tactic...enc hitting for 80-127 dmg each hit is awesome dmg...who says casters cant melee good?
Peppip Bismol 59 Enchanter of Fennin Ro Defenders of Ak'Anon
I do. Casters SUCK in melee for a reason. All Necs I know sit in their little corner, sicking their weak a$$ pets on the mobs. Thats about it.
Oh - did I forget to mention that the only thing they do is down crack like no other race / class out there? HeH lets not forget that they are the first to gate the fawk out when the **** hits the fan.
Just my 2cps - go ahead flame - probably wont return to this post - but go ahead, if it makes you feel better. Made me feel better - thats for sure
Dude your on drugs if you think enchanters can get that much haste..cap is what? 60-65 for warriors...little bit higher for monks...as for an enchanter KSin in Seb melee style ya right! even if you happened to connect i doubt it would be for 100...
yours truly..The Bucket of Water the Wakes You from Your Dream
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 4:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) MONKS SHOULD GET FIRST ROLLS ON THIS ITEM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RAID LEADER THINKS!!!!
ok i play monk and i love it but sometimes monks have a hard time cuz of doofus' like you! always complaining about how junky our drops are etc but if you dont like it then make a new character. a monks path is a hard and long one and there are advantages and disadvantages like mend and FD rock and we can dish out as much damage as any rogue (sometimes)but our weight cap blows and its hard to find low weight armor. i disagree about monks getting bad drops though to anyone who says so. there are plenty of very good drops for monks
It seems someone just types **** to see it in text....
QUOTE:MONKS SHOULD GET FIRST ROLLS ON THIS ITEM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RAID LEADER THINKS!!!!
On guild raids you dont "roll" for items... Most guilds have a system where by the KNOW who gets what.. Rolling randoms is usually for pick-up groups.... and how many of those do you see in DN?
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 11:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) stfu please im sooo tired of this one class should get a certain item over another. If Verant wanted it that way they would make it monk ONLY.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 16 2001 at 1:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Seriously, my warrior has her 2 hand blunt maxed out, I'd ***** myself out for one of these. Ah well, I'm almost high enough to go to DN and fight.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 17 2001 at 10:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have one, and I'll be willing to accept your whoring offer :)
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 17 2001 at 1:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My druid wants one, SIMPLY because it looks cool. And after Im done on this site, Im going to go kill the monk population on Rallos, I hate all of you.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 1:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) whoa geez, a wizard with this would be crazy
Yeah, well you'd have to be crazy to put down the int/mana items from your hands and pick this nice, albeit fairly useless to you, weapon, but it does look real neat :)
shouldn't be worth more than 15k as there are much better available for 20-30k (well for monks anyhow, and lets face it, its between monks and warriors for this item really, and warriors can get a Staff of Battle for 6k)
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 8:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HEY this is for the dude calling 12 year olds moron, DONT FREAKING COMPARE YOUR SELF TO A KID @$$ HOLE
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 5:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its definitly a MONK Item!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 18 2001 at 2:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yea your right, my 12 year old brother is an idiot and has a 32 monk on BB. lol
This is splendid for Warriors, Rangers, Clerics, Paladins, and any number of the other listed classes. Lets not lose sight of the fact that its not MNK only here folks.
If there is a difference, best to go by what the picture shows. People do make mistakes in input and don't realize it until someone sends a correction to them
It seems to me that this is one of those wepons that by the time you can get it, you have better, but it is still a nice wepon. I'm in the mid 30's now, I may try to buy one of these in the mid 40's. Seems like something that people may actually part with, but I am going to hate it when I see the price :-).
GL!! buyin this in mid 40s. unless you go and farm u never get good loot in 40s anyway. i've had 2 brawl sticks (32/39 one and 31/40 one) and they aren't anything easy to buy. and about having better...? i can't think of anything really. unless u consider staff of battle better or somethin. tho with warriors i'd still reccomend 1 hand weaps. i can't stand usin these long delay things.
1 thing i forgot. these are rarely for sale. it's the type of thing that some 60th lvl guy gets in DN and then keeps to his twinks. these are almost all/all and look cool as hell so they keep for their int casters or somethin.
Well, scratch that. Now I see why you said what you did about having better...the database still lists the staff as a 32/33 staff instead of 32/38 (which would put a few more sticks ahead of it, if the database's info were correct). Still, all in all, it's not too shabby.
"It seems to me that this is one of those weapons that by the time you can get it, you have better"...
God, I must have low expectations. Either that or you didn't notice that the database only shows two 2hb weapons with better ratios than this. I think this weapon would be just fine. Let me know when you're gonna trade-up yours... ; )
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 5:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) MONK ITEM ALL THE WAY YEAH! lol
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 5:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i have a ****** bricks* hotkey!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 14 2001 at 5:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Come on, a monk doesn't need this piecer. Give it to your local cleric, that's who needs it. I mean, look at those awesome stats it gives!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 7:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) first its not piercing its 2hb and by the time you get this clerics dont melee anymore
I'd like to know why you think that a cleric never melees after a certain lvl. At lvl 55 my cleric still melees with the 30/40 version brawl stick, don't get me wrong most of the time i am still stuck sitting back and wathing but on the big raids where your group is not getting hit to much and easy groups he is meleeing as much as medding and healing. if you want to see come to E'ci server
Read what he said. If his group isnt getting hit much (fom mana) and he is on a big raid (high mob resists) he melees. With C2 and GoM you are almost always FoM. And buffing doesnt take that much mana with HB and Group Symbol, or Aego.
or even better off stunning and medding, if spells are resisted too much buffing and medding, or otherwise staying the hell out of combat so if things do go south you can respond with appropriate heals.
Clerics, like druids, shamen, and silly int casters, don't do squat with melee after about 30th(some gutter out before), compared to what they can do with spells. so while yes its fun to melee, never do it if there is any danger, because its about as effective as a shadowknight bandaging people in the middle of a fight.
Will have to say on most raids my stuns are resisted, doesn;t stop me from trying. In plaves like Kael I do try to whack every under 54 giant I can. Is stupid I don;t get faction hits for healing here or anywhere is velious that I noticed. Not saying I want to melee, I don;t. Pull out my unfinished epic sceptre 15/32 1hb when oom farming greens. Hit for 53 damage once with girdle of karana, boon and shissar on hehe(farming vek lab with druid and ench for threads)I will say having all those tank buffs on was fun too bad i don;t have the ac or hp to take the 80+ hits every round