Crown of the Kromzek Kings
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DropsThis item is found on creatures. Kael Drakkel
QuestsThis item is used in quests.Expansion List - Premium only. Icewell Keep
Kael Drakkel
Skyshrine
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Scars of Velious
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 10:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeah I love class envy arguments... this one clearly states why a monk should be nerfed...
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 10:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Just have one thing to say about this taunt thing. Monks taunt is their first, a warriors is a hotkey. Hmm which one do I want. The warrior epic also has a DD dot(lowers ac and str i think also)proc which is also a huge taunt. I love monks, but when it comes down to it I want a warrior being my meat shield. The rogues and monks can just beat them up from behind. And I don;t know who you group with, but most of the monks I see don;t have near the AC as the warriors. Hard for 1 person to get all the uber ac low weight stuff. Warriors have alot more high ac items available period.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 3:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Defensive will suck you, monk!
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 10:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 30AC ARRRGG HEAD EXPLODING!!!
Anonymous
A level 60 character with the taunt skill CAN taunt a mob up to level 65, although the chance of a successful taunt is reduced severely over level 60 mobs.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 8:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can't taunt 60+ mobs with the taunt skill, so it's irrelevant. You also can't put warriors out of a job because monks can't tank 60+ mobs no matter what their AC. You need defensive disc + a ton of hp. Stuff like this just makes monks more survivable when rampage damage comes into play.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 7:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) awsome monk item any idea what drops this??? i am from rallos zek anyeone wanna help me get this for my monk it was awsome item ok thnaks
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 19 2001 at 12:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Cleric Canticle. Female and she beats booty. And that's just off the top of my head. Read a little and you'll most likely find more...
Anonymous
I got crown from Dain Frostreaver and it's better imo since it's not triggered, call me a lazy warrior :P Other than that stats look the same or pretty much
Anonymous
actually you are right.
while it does not seem to make much difference in clicking an item once in a while or not, the real problem is, that rightclicked effects show up as an icon on your buff-window. And when you are with Shaman, CL and Chanter that window will always be full to explode. And you DO need that open spot for CelH :o)
other than that, it still is a nice effect for all those nightblind fellas out there, allong with the see invis on this effect.
my 2c
while it does not seem to make much difference in clicking an item once in a while or not, the real problem is, that rightclicked effects show up as an icon on your buff-window. And when you are with Shaman, CL and Chanter that window will always be full to explode. And you DO need that open spot for CelH :o)
other than that, it still is a nice effect for all those nightblind fellas out there, allong with the see invis on this effect.
my 2c
there are times when you're up against a mob that AE dispells.. in which case having a few insta casting self buffs can be useful.. your self buffs get dispelled, rebuff before the next AE dispell wave hits and you never lose any important buffs.. that's assuming the effect is instant when clicked.. something I'm not certain of *shrugs*
another thing to keep in mind, is this wouldn't be the first time an items effect was listed wrong as far as triggered/built-in is concerned :)
another thing to keep in mind, is this wouldn't be the first time an items effect was listed wrong as far as triggered/built-in is concerned :)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 12:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh god if youre gonna lie do a decent job at least. It not only is crown of kromzek kings but it says that tormax drops it, STOOPID. =P Actually this item is much l ike a 30 ac helm that dain drops.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Aug 10 2001 at 10:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "I got crown from Dain Frostreaver and it's better imo since it's not triggered, call me a lazy warrior :P Other than that stats look the same or pretty much"
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 5:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can shut up and go FD in a pool of acid.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 5:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, I'll shut up and go feign death in a pool of acid. Idiot.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 5:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) with the advent of high AC pieces that have a low weight, combined by a monks increased ability to haul heavier armor, with the SEVERE taunt effect of the Monk epic, monks everywhere could damn near put warriors out of a job.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 5:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No they can't. A monk, or any other PC for that matter, will never outdamage a 60+ mob. So if they are MT, then the cleric that heals them will generate more agro than they already have (yes i know the amount was reduced by 2/3, i guess i should have said, they will never do even 2/3 the damage of a 60+ mob). Without taunt, your clerics are gonna die in these sort of encounters.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 5:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) seriously though...that's pretty sad that the only thing that a warrior can do better then a monk is taunt. I'd rather be able to FD then taunt anyhow personally but I'm just talking from what I read about varied classes. I don't even have a monk or a warrior. If someone can list off other things a warrior can do better besides boast about their AC and Hitpoints let me know please.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 13 2001 at 10:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I generally group with a warrior and I have grouped several times with a monk friend, Warriors are able to do more dmg on a constant basis, and dont take up as much mana for healing.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 6:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) They don't boast about their hp and ac, its a simple fact they they have more. Equipped with they high end armour, cobalt and up, a level 60 warrior with aego and focus, primal essence and focus are going to have around 6k or more hp, and a 1500 ac. There is a reason warriors are tanks and monks arent, 6k hp and 1500 ac are the reason.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 12:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That, and monks don't have the hitpoints of the Warrior. How long can you take it, even with your relatively good AC? The warrior is probably going to have about the same AC, and quite a few more hitpoints.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 12:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, Monks do not have the HP of Warriors but the difference when both are fully buffed is not as much as you might think. Monks also have higher caps for defensive skills and Block is certainly better than Riposte. Throw in the nature of some high end Monk equipment and there is little doubt that there could be a problem with the level 60 game eventually. A Monk with the absolute best gear available will be similar in AC to the same Warrior, if not better. The Monk will still be short a chunk of HP (important) but has close to the same functional HP for many encounters (from mend alone and from better avoidance).
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 5:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Warriors fart louder than you! Also, monks will not get the best gear available in the game (which tends to be primarily all/all - and desirable for every class, and ultra rare) -- do you really think a guild is just going to dump the Belt of Dwarfslaying and the Gauntlets of Dragonslaying and the Crown of the Kromzek Kings and that new Seaweed Choker etc.. on a monk?! It's just not going to happen -- and monks cannot have the same AC as a warrior.. warriors can have up to 600ac RAW, not to mention 500 base at level 60 (with only 1 agility) -- That's 1100 ac before any modifiers whatsoever, which basically creates 1700ac.. then max agility which will add another 150-200 .. You're now looking at 1900ac.. and now spells that give AC buffs.. Shaman, enchanter and druid buffs (wolf form) will seriously tweak out a warrior to over 2000ac (and the discipline!), which a monk has no chance of recieving, plus warriors can taunt pretty damn well, whether you like it or not -- the proc on the epic is practically an auto-top-of-hate-list-spell, with the occasional taunt working and the damage being factored in as well.. warriors are the best tanks in the game.. period. Without them, you wouldn't be able to get the equipment you so desperately think your monk deserves, just be happy that you even get to see Kromzek -- because without a warrior, you most likely would never have the chance.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 6:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Warrior Hp's also have the potential of 8k, given various buffs and potions avaliable-- stack that with dual Lifestealing Scimmitars (150dd) and various forms of regeneration that go into the 100's per tic and you have a very serious force to contend with.. in terms of what allowances healers have in regards to being able to heal as fast as the hp's are dropping. The taunt on the scimitars is higher because of the lower delay and the stacked taunt of a dd + a heal in one proc, which also adds to the warriors total hitpoints and viability as a tank. Quite simply, a warrior is going to outtank other classes, but suffer from resitence problems. Clerics and Druids in particular seem to be masters of resistence when it comes to the higher levels; both able to almost reach the 255 cap with gear alone.. while warriors will have trouble reaching 150 on all (the bard song and shaman buffs will of course clear that right up, but it's not as efficient to depend on that mana reserve, so that self resistence without spells and the dependence on someone else _needing_ to be alive to keep you alive is greatly preferred in high end encounters like Rallos Zek who's quadding for 1150 =P A warrior is really the only charachter that can stand the fragility of these types of encounters.. as a main tank, they are the conduit so to speak of the enemies defeat, and I should hope you'd be more than happy to appreciate any bonuses added to the warrior, rather than complain... mana keeps the world going round, but you need something to achieve it's maximum benefit; and in this game, the warrior recieves more benefit from a full mana barrage than a monk does, simply because of any other factor -- hit points alone. Armor class just intensifies this effectiveness, they pull more out of mana than monks do.. plain and simple.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 6:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ack! My mistake ... 600ac from the base is already calculated with the modifier.. so only the 500 gets factored with creates about 800, and sets everything at 1400 rather than 1700! big difference. This simply means that warriors will cap at around 1700-1800ac instead of the 2000-2100ac that was specified earlier. These numbers will most certainly be more significant than what a monk can pull with their equipment (do you gat a 59ac Breastplate? -- didn't think so =P)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 6:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ack again! I said 600ac raw -- it's actually 500ac raw and 600ac base at one agility .. I reversed the numbers in the original reply, but still figured them correctly in the post just above this, where the cap is about 1800.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 6:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Come to think of it.. I think the effect of agility is more significant than 200 when maxxed, for one thing.. there's the 40 bonus at 75 agility, and an extended period where there is one or more than one point of AC per agility, levelling off at higher levels above 100. It seems that youre typical naked warrior at level 60 (with around 70 to 100 agility) has somewhere around 800-900ac.. which gives agility a boost of 100 or so above the previous calculations, making the cap more like 1900.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 8:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "Well, Monks do not have the HP of Warriors but the difference when both are fully buffed is not as much as you might think."
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 10:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) >"but has close to the same functional HP for >many encounters (from mend alone and from better >avoidance)." mend is great but i hate when >people count this as hps, if a cleric cant heal >it then its not hps tks:P also warrior have def >disc which is why no matter how much ac u give a >monk<unless it just a stupid number like >9999999billion ac!!> war will always be the main >tank
#REDACTED,
Posted: Aug 10 2001 at 10:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "well, monks also get 2 very nice defensive disc... stonestance... just a damage reducer... and whirlwind, the auto riposte spammer..."
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 5:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let's just hope that these "new skills" for level 60's, that are being spoken of when Luclin comes out, seperate one class from another and truly make each class a "needed" class.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 12 2001 at 3:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Warrior's defensive will suck you, monk!
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 6:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not if you have a whole ******** of monks 8))
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 5:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 30 AC on a helmet???????????? OMG IM WANT
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