I'd like to quote the movie Billy Maddison..."At no point, in your rambling, incoherent, response, were you anywhere close to anything that could have been a rational thought. We are all dumber for having heard it. I award no points and may god have mercy on your soul."
quote___ "Do yourself a favor and look at the "Level to Attain" on the two items you mentioned. Now look at it on this item.
Raise your hand if you think that either of those two items (particularly Yelinak's Talisman, which drops off of *Yelinak* himself) can be obtained with anything less than several well-coordinated groups. Now, I can't garuntee that this one can be gotten with less, but the '55' in the "level to obtain" slot would imply to me that its at least possible to get this with a single group.
OH MY G-D! A class-specific item that (presumably) drops off of lower level mobs is INFERIOR to one that's dropped by epic-level mobs in the same zone! How could they do this to monks! They should have given them nothing at all!
Take an item for its own merits, not for how it compares to the BEST objects in the GAME.
Actually, I saw this and drooled over the fact that this is 10x better than the Spider Fur Collar that I wear now. . . Has all the stats I want.. except sta. hehe
I am not sure what the anon guy who was whining about gear is talking about .. but I solo'd even cons to 27 UNTWINKED .. earned all the way. I continued to solo about 75% of my levels up to 60 which I dinged SOLO in velks killing spiders. So if you are a monk and can't solo blues .. you have a lot bigger issue then monk gear .. hmm .. lack of skill and class knowledge comes to mind. Well played monks are about as good as it gets from a soloing perspective .. epic equipped rangers are up there as well due to their slow proc. Necros still are the best soloers in game from my experience ... And as far as this item goes ... its a GREAT neck .. and monk only is unbelieveable. And if you happen to have other than waist slot haste and have a bile etched obsidian choker .. throw it in the waist slot and you have about a 90 hp gain +stats and about 9 raw AC (at least over what I am wearing now). Monks own :)
well coming from a 52 monk whos has fought 60 monks your whining is obsurd the 60 monk owned me 60 rog and almost a 56 shammie monk is not a class u play and expect to uber right from the start it takes a long time to get the right gear then u become uber and hard to own for any class regardless of what they only way out for them is running, this is coming from my exp in pvp with 60 monks lol
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 16 2001 at 1:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't see why everyone complains about items that show up, I think this is a great necklace and while it might not be the best it still is a GREAT neck piece
Its been a long time since I have seen a piece of Monk only equip that wasnt a wep. Usually monks are left looking through the low wt trash from other classes. Im happy for monks, they really do get jacked when it comes to non weapon equip. There should be alot more monk specific armors.
Wtf do you know about monks? We're all FOR not needing gear... but we suck without it... our disciplines are laughable, our gear is uber gear or someone elses garbage... and Verant manages to tell us in the same breath that we don't NEED gear but we are comparable to warriors if we have the RIGHT gear... errrr...so which is it morons? Do we need it or don't we? And any piece of ***** that rolls around with 0 weight becomes tagged monk gear and when good gear with low weight gets tagged monk gear everybody whines... it's only monk gear if it's crap no one else wants...I'd love to NOT need gear... I shouldn't need gear...but even decked out as best I can... I still can't solo blues...a distinction I share with 2 or 3 other "balanced classes"... and wtf are you whining about anyways? this fricken thing is monk only? or are you cheesed BECAUSE it's monk only? Cause if THAT's the case...well then just shut the **** up... we have so little...leave us the hell alone...
i hate to call my self a monk after looking at this guys post. and i still solo high blues with little to no problems, maybe your trying to high of blues?
ok u know how to be a monk char....and???? if all u can do is use foul language and say "all we have is crap gear" go do something productive with your life and not ruin message boards with your obviously anger frustrated rather useless views ohh and if u dont like your class but love playing eq ...change to something u do like...or failing that dont subscribe u moron!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 09 2001 at 9:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know that virtually every item posted that has a low weight has several people comment that that is "a GREAT monk item". As a monk player, that does get frustrating. But, deal with it people. Mocking those posts in the very way that frustrates you justs makes you a hypocrit. If someone posts that a +INT/WIS belt would be great for a monk because it weighs 0.5 lbs, confront them about with a reply or post ON THAT ITEM. Don't seek out a different item so show your childishness.
I think the problem is they made every character (including monks) very item dependant. There is no way a monk can survive a fight with little or no equipment which is what was stated on Verants original description of the monk.
Oh heh look at this item, it's SO a monk item...<wait it says MNK> dude that's not fair, it's only 0.0 weight shouldn't it be -0.3? Negative weight is what we need!
What the hell are you people complaining about? If anything new drops that isn't the best item in the game, complete with 100% haste and +100 to all stats and 0.0 weight, you people take it as a personal insult and a tribute to Verant's stupidity. Do none of you remember when you would have given your left nut for a bone bladed claymore? Verant doesn't have an obligation to provide each of us with the uberest piece of equipment in existance.
Personally I look at this item and see a nice piece of equipment for a monk. I cannot possibly see what could be insulting about this. Its a nice item.....
The monk that started all this flaming is obviously not in a position to loot any of them, because if you are you know that you cant keep any of the tali's very long much less permanently due to your guild wanting Sleeper keys. So pls, do us real monks a favor ... get your head out of your bum and stop just comparing stats from a list and get your head in the game( or out of it mind you) and stop giving monks a bad rep (
P.S. This items is prolly the 2nd best item for monks atm that isnt a Sleepers key, Bile choker being 1st, but for ac it is NO. 1, and Collar of storm is NO. 2, for hp still top 5, so yes monks will drool if given a chance to loot. And if they dont then they are twinks p
Junur Iksar Grandmaster Sphere of Transcendence A. R.
Aren't first brood and yelinak talisman for the Sleepers Tomb quest? If so then they shouldn't even be taken into consideration since most of the guilds that kill those mobs only do so for the keys.
Do yourself a favor and look at the "Level to Attain" on the two items you mentioned. Now look at it on this item.
Raise your hand if you think that either of those two items (particularly Yelinak's Talisman, which drops off of *Yelinak* himself) can be obtained with anything less than several well-coordinated groups. Now, I can't garuntee that this one can be gotten with less, but the '55' in the "level to obtain" slot would imply to me that its at least possible to get this with a single group.
OH MY G-D! A class-specific item that (presumably) drops off of lower level mobs is INFERIOR to one that's dropped by epic-level mobs in the same zone! How could they do this to monks! They should have given them nothing at all!
Take an item for its own merits, not for how it compares to the BEST objects in the GAME.
The Fang Necklaces from ToV are class specific, and enhance class specific/emphasized stats. A monk won't usually need cha/int/wis during battle, and this gives more of a boost to agi/dex/hp than the first brood/yelinak. These help out a high level monk moreso than would the others.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 08 2001 at 11:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i want one for my chanter, the ac and hp will really help when mez breaks =P
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 08 2001 at 4:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you crackheads, this is definatly a magician item...that dex would help out A LOT
Ok, This is getting out of hand. I play a monk, and I find it damned offensive. I always see all these posts with people complaining about how monks are always saying every item should be their's. Yet, I rarely ever see a serious post with someone saying something would make a great monk item. I see more people mocking the concept then it actually happening. And when it comes to posts complaining about it, there has to be a 10 to 1 ratio. That is, for every post there is about an item being good for a monk, there are 10 posts complaining about it. Would you all just SHUT THE HELL UP
why do so many people talk about rolling? is it that your GM sucks and items are all rolled for? Most of the people that argue about what class an item should goto have no idea what the high level game is all about. Get a clue then your opinion might actually mean something.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jun 07 2001 at 9:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hey heres that great item youve been waiting for monks. Now stop ******* in all the other posts.
No it would be uber if it had 75% haste, see invis, symbol of naltron and sow on it lol get over it peeps there are much worse and some better items out there for every class/race. for example as a necro i would rather have a amulet of necropolotince (sp?) but with the neg 100hp i could never see a monk use it
Here is where we teach all of the monks. If an item is labeled monk only, then only monks should roll on it. All other items should be rolled on by anyone who wants them.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 08 2001 at 2:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Man...if they had int and wis and stuff on this, it would be a good item for casters too... All they need to do is put mana/int/wis on this, maybe like 20wis/int and 200mana, that would be cool dude, it would be such and Ub4r item!!
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 07 2001 at 4:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Now with a name like that it should be usable by us Rogues Aswell!!