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Primal Velium Battlehammer  

Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 13 Dmg Bonus: 31 AC: 10
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +5 DEX: +5 STA: +5 CHA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 AGI: +5 HP: +50 MANA: +50 ENDUR: +50
Required level of 55.
Effect: Avatar (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 1.5 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:1H Blunt
Lucy Entry By:Agamenoar
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-04 12:37:06
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious

Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is found on creatures.


This item is used in quests.
Expansion List - Premium only.

Eastern Wastes
Quest Name
Garath's Weapons to Trade

Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Kerafyrm's Lair (Sleeper's Tomb)

Uploaded November 27th, 2008
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Idea but most likely wrong LOL
# Jul 06 2001 at 3:32 AM Rating: Default
why not put one of the warrior epics BoS or BoT and this in other? I am a high lvl druid with a lowbie warrior so I'm not so great on weapon stats. But you'd get stat ups from epic sword and then proc from this or warsword for warriors for a lot of good stats. I am probably wrong. Fast but no damage huh. Plus avatar takes u to stats cap if stats are 160+ already. Tho the red epic for warrior and this or PVW would look awesome together. The blades look kewl on primals. If u ever find an owner check it out.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 13 2001 at 8:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) here are a couple thoughts about what i have read here.
RE: to all who wants to read
# Jul 13 2001 at 3:30 AM Rating: Good
Obviously you know NOTHING about Sleeper's...

1) At the level you have to be to get this, you don't random. It's awarded by the leader to the people who have earned it.

2) The mobs that drop primal/priceless can be done with 1 group, so it's NOT hard to get an entire guild outfitted with this stuff.
RE: to all who wants to read
# Aug 30 2002 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
At the level required to get this, and the guild required to get this, you will most likely be bidding on these with DKP.
RE: to all who wants to read
# Feb 03 2002 at 4:09 PM Rating: Default
RE: to all who wants to read
# Mar 24 2002 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
RE: to all who wants to read
# Aug 14 2001 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
"The mobs that drop primal/priceless can be done with 1 group"

can i have some of your crack?
must be better than mine, cause last time Conquest used 28 people, was losing badly before the incident, and verant stated that it was designed for 60+ level 60 people encounters.....
RE: to all who wants to read
# Oct 19 2003 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
Ok ..we just did this dude yesterday with 12 people ..avrg raid level was 63....wasnt hard...took bout 5 min from start to finish..including his little mini me's

Bloodclaws Fangtooth
65 Vah Shir Overlord
Grey Horizon
RE: to all who wants to read
# Oct 04 2001 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
I know a guild on Xev that does excatly this and it is possible to get primal weapons with only one group, but it is risky, but possible nonetheless. It usually done before they bring the whole guild in to sleepers to clear everything but the fourth warder.
RE: to all who wants to read
# Aug 15 2001 at 4:34 AM Rating: Default
Some of the warders that drop this are easier than others...May be single grouped.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 02 2001 at 12:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) fyi monks will max amount of haste and their epic have their hands at 9dmg 9dly. Put this weapon in your offhand and leave your primary blank. With your non stop attacking this thing will proc fast and the monk will be kicking some ***.
# May 28 2001 at 6:33 AM Rating: Default
Ok I don't know how this happens with EQ pages like this.People post an item,others ask questions about it,and then others whine that thier class can't use.Soon this turns into flames about other classes and then they run out of insaults for classes they turn to RL for a resource....WHY????This is a item post!!!!Sigh,why can't people keep RL out of games like EQ and just play it.I will never see this item,nor will I see ST,does that give me the right to squabble with others on who should get this during a raid or not.Funny how most of you are adults and yet the summery of this thread shows that mankinds mentality as mass is simply one big child.
RE: Why???
# May 23 2003 at 6:23 AM Rating: Default
can we just stay on topic and let the children tire themselves of the immaturity on their own?

On topic: this is the kind of thing I play the game for... high challenge and long term goals... and this weapon is making me drool just thinking about the possibilities Smiley: lol
#Anonymous, Posted: May 25 2001 at 7:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) When the epic quests first hit, lots of monks were complainging about getting a pair of gloves as their epic as opposed to a weapon. How about now? Hehe, can you imagine the force a level 60 monk would be wielding a primal in the main hand and a priceless in the off hand with Celestial Fists simultaneously? We are the only class who really doesn't care about the debate of whether or not this is better than an epic (which, by the way, it is hands down), because we can have BOTH! That monk would be hitting so hard and fast...OH MY's just insane to think about. OK, I'm done fantasizing now LOL. You may all return to your regular scheduled program.
RE: Monks
# Jul 10 2001 at 4:32 PM Rating: Default
Just to point out not flaming or anything that the monk epic haste is not the best you can get there are better haste items not shure on them at the moment but there are better ones the reason monks use that for haste is it boosts there hands damage and lowers the delay.
RE: Monks
# Aug 03 2001 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
Some clarification, the effect on the CF is a song effect that has 40% SONG haste, 12ac, and 40atk. The reason they use it is because it will still stack with most haste effects and you will still get the 12ac and 40atk...
When you WEAR the CF your fists become 9/16 weapons, don't even need to click em.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 23 2001 at 3:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I absolutely LOVE it when ppl talk about "rolling" on stuff like this... BWAHAHAHAHAHA =)
#Anonymous, Posted: May 21 2001 at 12:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 1.) it is either better than epic or not. we didnt solve that problem.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 28 2001 at 8:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well hello u stupid american or stupid, it should eother? TYPO!!!!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 14 2001 at 9:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what?
/rant on for one last time
# May 18 2001 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
51 posts
I used to read posts because they usually contained useful information on how to obtain the item, or at least opinions (right or wrong) from people trying to help one another. I remember when the epics first came out, and everyone was posting hints and things they had learned about their epics, all in a race to be the first class to win the coveted prize. Now these boards have devolved into 'Why ain't this a monk item?'
'This is better than the epic!'
'Nuh uh!'
'Uh huh!'
'I don't play this class, but here is my flame'
'Verant screws us again WAAAAA!'
For this reason, this will probably be the last post I ever make, for it is the last time I will ever read the boards. We had those glory days in the sun, back when everyone was trying to help each other out and work our way through the epics. Now though, it's more of a battle about who has got bigger balls, who is right and wrong, and who is more uber than this other guy/guild/server/etc. It has truely cast a dark cloud over Norrath with your padantic arguing about weapons 99% of us will never see. If you guys ever grow up, give me a ring. You'll probably not see me in game anymore.

Candente Palpablanca
Templar who used to find enjoyment in this game by helping others and fighting the good fight
#REDACTED, Posted: May 24 2001 at 9:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Preach on!
avatar proc
# May 17 2001 at 4:34 PM Rating: Default
actulay all at the top teh main advantage of the proc does is to save your shamans some mana on buffage since on raid situations you runing aroumd with close to max stats anyways
not that i wouldnt mind not haveing to one :)
Thand 56 monk Innrouuk "Legions of Darkness"
#REDACTED, Posted: May 16 2001 at 5:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) once again i interject with this thought, monks, our epic is a set of gloves, the gloves proc a haste, the delay of this weapon drops even lower. are you smileing an evil grin yet? I am.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 24 2001 at 9:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No, no im not smiling... Yes they are gloves, yes they proc haste, no they will not lower the delay. They only effect FISTS.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 29 2001 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Haste on the effect, effects your Main weapons aswell.. :)
Beggining of the end
# May 13 2001 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
Ok people saying this is harder to get than epic... Ok i'll say its tough to get,but when you goto sleeper, you get various versions of primal and priceless weapons. All I was stating is that yes they are tough to get,but the fact that they exsist and usually get a few drops in one st raid is broken. So you are the noob,learn more about sleeprs then criticize. Also what I was saying is what do we have to look forward to in new expansion? Things cant get much better then they are,and If they do game will be broken. With new games coming out Like ao and shadowbane,eq's population will decrease,not much more eq has to offer,no matter how many expansions come out its always same deal. Camp ,kill,fight over camp, farm,camp camp camp farm some more etc.
RE: Beggining of the end
# Nov 30 2001 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
He's right, the real reason for the expansion is for the newer players and to entice people to start playing. Yes EQ population will decrease because people go to other games, but new players will fill their space, least for a while. And you babbling about camps and such, goin to another game like Dark Age of Camelot or whatever, you're gonna be doin the same damn thing. I'd rather stay with EQ and do the stuff i haven't like slaughter a dragon, finish my damn epic, and get a melee char past 20 hehe. Truth is it's fun, no matter what uber stuff there is, no matter how many expansions there are, i'm having fun, runnin around with friends and killin ****. And when it's not fun anymore I'll stop playing these online games completely, cause they're all the same...

hehe, they filtered **** and not damn
RE: Beggining of the end
# May 13 2001 at 5:36 PM Rating: Good
What did you expect ? In EVERY game, when there's an expansion, they need to add bigger, stronger stuff. To the point where stuff from the first version is trivial. EQ is the same. Honnestly, would you buy Velious if the strongest mob was like Dojorn, or Cazic, in the original game ? If the best weapons in the new expansion were only slightly improved versions of SSoY ?

Don't know about you, but I wouldn't buy it. It's a fact, in every game, every updates makes it bigger and stronger, to the point where it's ridiculous. A year ago, I was having this discussion with another player, and told him the exact same thing. I said that eventually in EQ, there would be weapons with 36 damage and 28 delays, that kind of ratio. She didn't really believe me, but look where we're heading. If it's not special anymore, if it's not uber, people won't play.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 12 2001 at 4:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hardly, because the monk epic isnt a weapon, this is not better for monks because you dont have to choose, you can SPORT THEM BOTH!
Just a question..
# May 12 2001 at 3:18 AM Rating: Decent
When you get this already have everything in the game. Technically, you would have explored all of Kunark, all of Velious. You would get this weapon, and pretty much have nothing to do until Luclin. And what if Luclin sucks? Then EQ is done. I personally never want to win this weapon, because then I would probably be done playing Everquest. And I am pretty sure they would get tired of twinking too.
Unless Verant raises the level cap, and continues to do other such things, they may have trouble keeping the older players. This weapon is so strong that whoever gets it looses their will to play. It's just too powerful.
RE: Just a question..
# May 24 2001 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
Read what you just wrote and tell me it makes any sense. You're telling me the only reason you continue to play is to get new stuff like this, but if you get it, you'll quit? Or are you saying that once you get this, you'll be so powerful that the game won't be any fun anymore? Either way, you are approaching this game the wrong way and should leave now.
RE: Just a question..
# May 23 2003 at 7:13 AM Rating: Default
Amen... look at it from a social point of view (or any of a number of other angles for that matter)

and now that Luclin, PoP, and Ykesha are out (well past the time of that post) I can say that the game is still fun :)

Edited, Fri May 23 07:32:09 2003
practically an epic in itself
# May 11 2001 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
before anyone else goes off screaming about how these are better than the epics, think about the fact that just getting to key to this place is practically an epic in itself. And THEN you have to kill the stuff that drops it. 'nuff said =)
A few words...
# May 11 2001 at 1:00 PM Rating: Excellent
Firstly in response to Rhyoss,

1) Primal velium is better than an epic. Verant intended it to be better than an epic. This doesn't belittle the epics in any way though, since you will require one (and very probably level 60) in order to obtain this. Avatar isn't only good as a dex buff, but also puts up stats sufficently for a melee class wielding this to ignore them in other slots in favor of pure AC.

2) I agree this should be no drop, since it will mean there will be no dispute that when this drops it will go to the person who requires it most (although I would like to see some more specific class restrictions on each weapon to stop it going to the warrior by default). I disagree totally that the other equipment you list should be no drop though. Since you list your level as 32, I can only assume you're seeing twinks at your level with better equipment and are thus becoming embittered. Try to remember the reason people twink is they already have a high level character and want to get anoher class to a similarly high level rapidly, since by comparison low levels, and especially mid levels are dull the 2nd time around. Why would you want to spend 20 hours doing ro armor quests when they have no challenge with your experience and high level friends? With respect to the Kunark armor, it's quite clear you have no idea how rare some of the drops can be (how many druids do you see with ES boots?), and the very idea of having to let a piece rot because there's nobody of the correct class in the group is sickening.

3) It's not the beginning of the end, but if they're going to keep introducing better melee weapons then they really, really have to give casters more mana regen items than the two or three in the game at the moment. It's common knowledge that you can twink a melee class and have them killing con reds at level 20, but trying the same with a caster is hopeless. High level healers and casters have to basically sit and wait for Verant to make them more potent by adding new spells (chloroblast and natures touch made my druid more useful than anything he's ever looted), whilst melees can keep getting better equipment right up to this kind of stuff.

4) Spelling ability and grammar are no measure of the intelligence behind a concept, merely the presentation. Cronnus may sound like an idiot, but he's 100% correct. You, on the other hand, come across as an arrogant racist, who believes they are superior due to their use of standard english. To top it off, you're commenting on a weapon you're still 28 levels away from getting.
RE: A few words...
# May 13 2001 at 10:30 AM Rating: Excellent
mmm nice points =) a few reactions..

1) i still don't see them as being better, but someone else had a good point that my caster self didn't quite realize (duh). in a raid situation you sometimes want only one tank to really be generating lots of aggro. epic weapons that proc on the target would be good for that... this proc shouldn't anger the monster, right? so the main tank would have his epics out, or other annoying-proc weapons, while other tanks would be better off using something like this just for the sake of keeping the monster pointed at the right person.

in an experience group though, i still would see people switching out weapons sometimes =p

2) that is why people twink. personally i don't like it, how obvious some people are about their twinking. but i completely understand why it happens, and there's no changing it. i'm just glad i started when my server was new - must make some first-time 30s feel like dirt to see people powerlevelling past them and calling their level range 'boring'..

3) i agree entirely with that, though i don't want mana-regeneration items to be droppable =p level seems to matter a lot more for casters in my opinion just because spells are almost for-granted increases in power at the moment. i'd like to see more quest spells (like hsagra's wrath and porlos's fury) that make casters have to work for better 'weapons' - like tanks do. and a few mana-regeneration items... mildly powerful ones, not flowing thought x ones =)... from lengthy quests would be nice, as opposed to purely god drops. i'm almost done with my epic, and i want more! =)

4) it's tacky to attack someone for spelling something wrong, or having bad grammar. some people are from foreign countries and speak english as a second language... others may be analytical geniuses but aren't all that gifted in putting things into words. play nice =)

charmian d`arxx, conjurer of the cimmerii, erollisi marr server
#REDACTED, Posted: May 11 2001 at 12:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you dont like it then dont read it
RE: 18th Airborne
# May 13 2001 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
For God's sake Layend why would you type this gibberish? I served in the Gulf War at eightteen years old, and had my ninteenth birthday on the back of a M998 hummer in the middle of nowhere. For those of you who are bashing the other gentleman who posted, No, I don't know him, but even on the chance he served- you should have more respect for him.

Now for all you people who decide to post whatever comes to mind. You are the reason why Senator Exxon almost got a law in place to censor the internet. Since you are basically free from repercussions in posting- you decide to be rude and insulting to others. I see this in game also. In real life, act the same way. I encourage it, because one day someone is gonna pull off your clip on nose ring, smudge your press on tattoo, and you are going to realize that your rebelling against conforming- is just having you conform. You are also going to realize that having a level 60 whatever class isn't going to help you from the whooping you are going to get when you make the wrong person snap. Of course you people I speak of will proably never come out of your parents house and face the real world. You will continue to live vicarously through your characters and exact your revenge for years of wedgies and spitballs because you couldn't do twelve push-ups in Gym class.

AND UBER MEANS "LARGE OR GRAND" IN THE GERMAN LANGUAGE- SO HAVING "UBER GEAR" IS WRONG- QUIT USING WORDS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONCEPT OF- It's so annoying when you see people using "catch phrases" that they heard another using, but only use them to sound knowlageable.

Thank you for the space to rant Allakhazam.

Ricrock Gnomesmasher
55 Shadow Knight of Innoruk
RE: 18th Airborne
# May 23 2003 at 7:53 AM Rating: Default
"cuisine" means kitchen in France, but in America it's commonly used to mean food

"douche" means shower in France, but in America it's commonly used to mean a femanine hygene product what, "uber" means large in Germany, but in America it's commonly used to mean great or powerful

It won't take a lot to figure out my point, but rather than beating it into the ground, I'll let you figure it out Smiley: smile

#Anonymous, Posted: May 27 2001 at 10:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hehe... not army... but you understood
RE: 18th Airborne
# May 27 2001 at 10:21 AM Rating: Default
It's ok to use the german word for gear? Perhaps you don't have a Uber Gemut. Or perhaps we should run all of our text through a translator because you can't stand mixing languages? Face it dude. American english is a ******* language. Uber has been spoken in the US since the late 80s as meaning "super" (or "grand" as you put it). Now, it's part of american english in several communities including the linux community... you can buy "Alan Cox: Uber Hacker" tee shirts at

I'm sure you are an intelligent person, but please chill out so I don't have to verbally abuse you and use my constitutional rights to free speach. One would think you would support this... being ex-military. Oh wait! You loose your right to free speach in the army... that explains it.

Because the g0d d4mn internet makes me free from repercussions or something
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 11:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) NOTE : My post is useless and doesn't have anything to do with this item. Please ignore it if you want to know what this item is about.
why this is the best weapon avaiable... and why you will nev
# May 11 2001 at 11:09 AM Rating: Default
This is the best weapon in the game because of the proc, stats and dmg/dly are far superior to any weapon in the game. Unless you are maintanking, you dont want a proc to gaint taunt on a mob, which basically would negate any point to agro control... One person gets hit, one person get healed. With procing weapons, they gain extra taunt and you get attacked easier, try healing several people who are getting quaded between 500-800, aint gonna happen. With these weapons, the proc does not taunt, and you gain an immense ammount of power. The ammount of dmg output increases greatly, but it is still less taunt then procs, which are unpredictable. I would use a weapon like this any day of the week.

BTW, if you know anything about getting the keys for this, it would take most guilds over a year to get a key for each of their members, and thats not even counting competition with other guilds.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 10:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am say this to Rhyoss. I am a Gulf War vet and you are talking about American been (dim-witted) it is easy to say that on-line,because if you sayed that in front of me they would pick you up from the floor. There are kids that play this game and some my not type well. OK got good
/rant on (fair warning)
# May 23 2003 at 8:20 AM Rating: Default
you're a vet, great. you don't like people talking badly about americans, great. (neither do I, but I chalk most of it up to childish ramblings)

I appreciate that you fought for the freedoms I enjoy, but I guess my real question is: Why did you join the service in the first place... to tell others what they can and can't say? or to defend their right to say what they feel, even if you don't agree?

If you think you can knock anyone to the floor that bad mouths America... then you missed the whole point. I may not like what someone has to say, but I will defend, with my honor, their right to say what they feel. (within reason of course... saying "kill Americans", or anyone else for that matter, isn't right).

#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 10:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude, you shouldn't be posting.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 24 2001 at 9:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude, you should never start a statement with "dude."
#Anonymous, Posted: May 27 2001 at 10:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dudes,
Primal velium
# May 11 2001 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
I think these should be better than the epics. any level 45 with a mediocre guild could get his epic, or even less if they are really dedicated, but raid on sleepers, which would last long enough to pull out even one primal velium weapon, requires roughly 10-15 full groups of 57+, boy thats tough isn't it? :) anybody who can get one of these truly deserves it...and to the idiot who wishes these were no drop...well...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. imagine somebody twinking out their level 1 monk with a primal velium and a pricless velium hammer... on a related note...imagine a level 60 monk with the above combination...OUCH!
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 6:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No more n00b this 0wnj00 that. Any users of the L33t HaX0R "Language" will be raped.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 9:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) <sigh>
#Anonymous, Posted: May 14 2001 at 4:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) <sigh>
re proc
# May 11 2001 at 6:22 AM Rating: Default
It is unlikely that you need an emerald for the proc to work.
No item so far has needed a component to make the spell work, this includes items that have symbols/runes for procs/effects
(apart from es boots for druids, i think they where updated to not need the component)
RE: re proc
# May 11 2001 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
Actually the various Velious quest and PoG robes for Enchanters (Rune 4) and Necros (Conjure Corpse) both require their normal component to cast them.

Compare to epics...
# May 11 2001 at 5:16 AM Rating: Default
You cant really compare this weapon with any epic.
Why you ask... first you just need 3-4 groups to get any epic. Second you need a key to enter this place. To get a key to sleepers you have to kill 2 of 3 diffrent dragons, and they are level 70.
what i am trying to say is that any good guild can get a epic but you need a guild like AL, FoH or RA to even get the keys. All i need to say is that less then 0.001% EQ players will even inspect a player with this weapon. So if you are a moron to even think you will get a weapon like this stop playing. Sorry for the bad english.
RE: Compare to epics...
# May 11 2001 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
trakanon was the "greatest of dragons."

the sleeper was a mix of two breeds of dragon that came out unstoppably powerful. more powerful than trakanon and the rest of dragonkind.

but verant fiction doesn't call it the "greatest of dragons."

the epics are neither intended to be the end-all of your search for weapons, nor are they going to be the most difficult weapon to find. any epic probably has more instances on a server than all the primal weapons found yet across all servers.

primal weapons are special, more special than epics, from an area of the game that is so epic itself that it is legendary in fiction. all the epics allude to the storyline somehow, indirectly, of the world... sleeper's is part of it.

avatar is a buff, unlike most epic weapon buffs, that just boosts statistics - and i assume it's a proc effect not a permanent one as well. so as a previous poster said, most epic-wielding people out there may well find themselves switching in and out weapons for the effect; the statistics on these are good but epics when their procs are taken into effect can be better.

open your minds some everyone =) there is more to a weapon than damage/delay.

charmian d`arxx, conjurer of the cimmerii, erollisi marr server
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 5:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have it =P
Not a quest
# May 11 2001 at 4:58 AM Rating: Default
This is a rare drop is Sleepers, there is a whole series of Primal weapons, bows, swords, hammers, etc that all proc avatar
#REDACTED, Posted: May 11 2001 at 3:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I was going to respond to individual posts, but it seems that a lot of you are really making this up as you go along...
RE: Clarification.../sigh
# May 18 2001 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
Figured I'd get that out of the way ahead of time, being the obliging sort that I am.
Just a few words for Nastasja. I do not know what nationality you are, mabye Russian, but as for americans and proper english, I thought I would clarify something for you. An american is anyone that comes from north, central or south america. And if my aging mind can remember this correctly, most of those people do not speak english as a first language anyway.
And here is another thought you might want to think about before you spout your mouth off to the wrong person face to face. Most US "Americans" are not as cultured as you make yourself out to be, I barely passed english class myself when I was in high school, but we take serious offense to people pointing that out to us. If you had said something like that to me face to face, I can promise you, you would have had a long stay in the hospital, courtesy of one retired Marine.
Being able to spell, read or write, or tell the date a bottle of wine was bottled has no bearing on the measure of a person. Honor, courage, responsibility, duty, compassion and tolerance do.

Jon S. Redcloud
Gunnery Seargeant USMC retired
Proud Marine, Mohawk and US citizen
Semper Fidelis
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 03 2001 at 6:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) THIS IS ALSO NOT ABOUT THE ITEM BUT RATHER IN RESPONSE TO THE ANGRY MARINE'S POST.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 26 2001 at 4:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is intended for generalisation and anybody not fithing this mold do not feel yourself targeted by this.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 14 2001 at 5:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I apologize for shattering your low level naïveté Nastasja, my overeducated friend, but in response to your second (number 2 in case you're unfamiliar with that English word, it not being your first language and whatnot), there are only 6 players allowed in each group, and 13 possible classes for which armor can drop. Furthermore, the Kunark dropped armors, such as the Deepwater Helmet you sited, only require one group to acquire (this particular piece drops from the Crypt Caretaker in Old Sebilis; I have seen 4 and never once had a pally in the group). Since you might not catch on immediately, this means that approximately half the time, a class-specific item would simply rot, because an appropriate person to loot it would not be in the group: hence, the tradable nature of the various Kunark armors.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 13 2001 at 8:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok First, I am not going to lie to you. We, as in us American's; can not spell our own language, but that does not make us stupid it just makes us lazy. Which, going down to another follow up; is why we corrupt intelects:)
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 4:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /laugh Dumblevel32n00b
RE: Clarification.../sigh
# May 11 2001 at 10:07 AM Rating: Default
Just a little comment. Just because he's an idiot, doesn't make him American. It's stereotypes like that that caused things like slavery, and the Holocaust. Please if you want to insult someone, try not to sound like an ignorant *******, by making broad statements.

Why people continue to make the mistakes of their ancestors is beyond me. Learn from history my friend, and relized that pigeonholing (sp?) someone like that is just pure bad form.

/em steps down from his soap box.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 12:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I beg your pardon? The Holocaust and Slavery were all about economics, not some sort of stereotyping. Are you an American? It would be indicative of the state of decline of the American education system if you were. And yes, Americans are hard at work corrupting the forces of intellectualism wherever they see it. Consider it a sign of the times. Not that all Americans are like that, but saying I'm proud to be an American is no longer applicable; who in their right mind would be proud to be an American?
#Anonymous, Posted: May 13 2001 at 1:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i better damn well be able to role on this bad boy in 10 more lvls
#Anonymous, Posted: May 13 2001 at 1:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /agree
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 2:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm proud to be an American damn it! corrupting smart people my ***. That sure shows how smart you are.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 12 2001 at 3:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im also very proud to be an American. So go f*&% yourself
#Anonymous, Posted: May 15 2001 at 9:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ROFL !
#Anonymous, Posted: May 13 2001 at 1:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) oh say can you see...
#Anonymous, Posted: May 22 2001 at 4:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am not going to sit and preach about everyone being nice to each other I am going to simply say that these posts were intended to help people who want to know more a bout the items and things that they dream of obtaining. This is not a place to slander others. No matter their race creed or color. I simply think we should get back to the basics and play the darn game and dream of being the badass that gets to wield the weapon that is the best at the moment. As for this fantastic weapon I say dam! It looks like it would do some great damage and put the hurt on many. But it is a dream for anyone lower then 57+ to get it. So in closing I say I HAVE A DREAM!
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