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Guise of the Coercer  

Slot: FACE
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 4
CHA: +13
Effect: Illusion High Elf (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 6.0) at Level 15
WT: 0.4 Size: SMALL
Class: BRD ROG
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Illusion
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Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-11-24 02:54:53
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Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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Guise of the Coercer
# Oct 08 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Got the Mask from the General last night. Killed a few mobs to clear a bit with my 90 Ranger. Had rogue using SoS, handed in Sealed Box to a DE and general spawned inside the house there, ran to zone as I got a bunch of aggro from DE's and some undead. The General followed me to the Rivervale Ent. I was summoned a number of times but made it and zoned. Re-zoned, General was over by the ent to Rivervale just to the side and on top of the slope there.

Clicked off hide and instantly handed in head to General. Got the mask and General Poofed!

Notes: He an d his pet despawned immediately after handing in Stanos'head.

Got a lot of aggro, but made it to the Rivervale zone at level 76.

Nice mask!

105 Ranger <Alliance of Hope>
20455 AAs
Makrus Slashes Bara for 39,666 Damage!

96 Rogue
Xeg Server

Mald -105 Shaman
Stanos' head
# Oct 05 2011 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Got Stanos' head last nite with a 90 Bard friend. Was pretty easy with my 90 Ranger. He went down quick and we killed a few adds as well.

Good luck.
105 Ranger <Alliance of Hope>
20455 AAs
Makrus Slashes Bara for 39,666 Damage!

96 Rogue
Xeg Server

Mald -105 Shaman
Stanos' head
# Oct 05 2011 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Been trying to PP Founy, he may be bugged as I have not seen him spawn/despawn over several RL hours of PPing. Gonna go back tomorrow and try again. Will update. Seems I remember a few people saying he may be bugged from time to time.

Good luck,
105 Ranger <Alliance of Hope>
20455 AAs
Makrus Slashes Bara for 39,666 Damage!

96 Rogue
Xeg Server

Mald -105 Shaman
Stanos' head
# Jul 27 2014 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
254 posts
can also kill him and get him to reset with fresh item... re pick pocked and kill him again till he drops parch as loot. not picking him
turn in
# Nov 20 2008 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
I have the box and the head, just wondering does the general spawn at the location of the DE when you hand in the book? Does the DE despawn? and should I be playing invis song, faded, sneaking? When I sneak and hide, after moving i become unhidden. I have read all the posts about the mask but still am unsure. I would be grateful for some info on exactly how to do the turn in as i dont want to have to get the box again.
turn in
# Oct 28 2009 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
When you hand in the box to the dark elf the general will spawn back at their little house in the middle of the mobs! I was able to pull him out and get him a lone for the turn in. 85 Bard
Mid 50's Bard soloable
# Feb 08 2008 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
18 posts
I just completed the quest for this mask. I play a 57 bard and I've been collecting illusion masks/items for awhile and this was a must have on my list. I will share my experiences doing this quest as a bard. I first started this quest a couple of years ago when my bard was still fairly new and I was playing cleric as main. We were camping Stanos' head for rogues and bards in my guild to do the quest and I decided to get one for my alt. I have no current advice for Stanos as the zone and apparently the mob himself were revamped. So, that aside, I will assume you have already acquired Stanos' head. I had a bit of luck on my side for this one. I was toying with the idea of trying to do this quest and was pulling the DE's around when I noticed 3 of them got stuck in the trees somehow (zone bug), after I was done running them around I did the research and found that I had to do the rogue epic quest up to a point to obtain the mask. In order to do this quest bard's used to have to talk a friendly rogue into doing thier epic a 2nd time and spawning the general, but now (in shrouded form) almost anyone can do this quest. You can follow this walkthrough on the rogue epic and use a rogue shrouded form for the parts where you have to pickpocket. I used the rogue shroud form for the pick pocket parts only. I would like to add one part about Renux, she is soloable by a mid 50's bard, but be prepared for about a 20 min chant kiting session. I also need to mention that I knew exactly where the groundspawn book was in PoH and a ran to it picked it up and died before my gate hammer went off. This was an acceptable outcome to me. The book is in the building directly north of the steps that lead to the building the hand of maestro is in. the building is kind of a T shape, and the book is on a dresser in the right hand wing. If you're not familiar with PoH get some friends to go with you. After following the walk thru and obtaining the sealed box I went to kithicor. I found the DE house empty, some lucky rogue must have completed his epic. I was sitting around seeing if the DE house would respawn when I remembered the previous tree stranded DE's I had ran around the night before. I did some tracking and found them. I went back to the DE house and cleared all of the guards and priests around it and then went to rescue one of the DE's out of the tree. I played the lvl 56 highsun song (teleports mob back to spawn point) and ran far away to lose aggro. I came back and played kelin's Lugubrous Lament to pacify him and played song of travel and snuck up behind him. I handed him the sealed box and immediately hit hide after the trade window came up, this spawned the general. I snuck behind the general handed him Stanos' head (once again hitting hide as soon as the trade window came up) hit trade and viola' I had my mask. The point of this is, if the DE's are all up, and you're ready to do the turn in, kite them around east of the DE house, there are at least 3 areas there where you can get them stuck. Wait for a rogue to do his epic and clear house, rescue a DE from a tree and there you have it, you've solo'd this quest. I'll admit, there was alot of luck on my part but part of the fun is playing the odds. =)
Good Luck to all that attempt this.

Seneni Whispersong
lvl 57 bard of Povar
# Jan 12 2007 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
254 posts
75 Warrior and 75 Cleric, our tactic was to pull him with hate agro from combat abilities so he wouldnt summon while bringing him to Kith ZL. Once we got there Warrior let his Hps drop to Furious and ate up Stanos. Afterwards i patched a heal. Was way to easy. He dropped head on first go. Logged Rogue..

*note* Loot time was 30 mins :)

Other classes use it from invenbory?
# Apr 11 2006 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
can anyone that knows for a FACT confirm/deny this to be clickable from inventory for classes other then those listed on the item. I have a Guise of the Deceiver on my halfling ranger (so I get sneak and hide) and i'm assuming since this is part of the "Guise of the X" like my DE mask I will be able to use it from inventory, but would like someone to confirm or deny it working from someone that has actually completed it before I go shrouding to a rogue and going through the motions. Thank you.. FYI if I dont get a response on this post I will do it myself and lay this issue to bed.
RE: Other classes use it from invenbory?
# Apr 25 2006 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
no only bard rog, I am a wizzy bought one tonight (fv server) didnt work.
RE: Other classes use it from invenbory?
# Dec 30 2008 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
52 posts
How did you purchase this? It's a no-drop (no-trade) mask.
Sopona Poxcaller
Heretic Shadow Knight

Nootaikok Frostcaller
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Moksha Bladecaller, Half-Elfin Rogue of Freeport
RE: Other classes use it from invenbory?
# Jan 23 2009 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
You obviously didn't see the part where he says (fv server) which means Firiona Vie server which is roleplaying and almost every item except like epics and such are tradeable.
Shrouding up to do
# Jan 13 2006 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
24 posts
Shrouding into a Rogue shroud (even if you are a rogue) can save ALOT of time on this.
Shroud up to the Rogue (Kobold preferred for FD, but gobbo one will do) and do the usual pickpocketting, using Spirit Send to get back to PoK if you don't have a port available. Get into Hate the usual way and once again, once you've got the book, using Spirit Send will get you out of Hate back to PoK.
Just saves a bit of running around (and lets other classes do the Rogue epic upto the Handin needed for the Mask without needing a rogue to do the pickpocketing).
invinory use?
# Feb 09 2005 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
anyone know if this effect can be used without equipping the mask like u can with pegasus feathercloak?
RE: Inventory Use
# Sep 21 2005 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
52 posts
Yeah, as long as it's in a primary inventory slot (not in a backpack or other container), you can right-click on it and get the illusion.
Sopona Poxcaller
Heretic Shadow Knight

Nootaikok Frostcaller
Shaman of Justice

Master Brewer Biertrinker Oktoberfest
Wolf of the North

Moksha Bladecaller, Half-Elfin Rogue of Freeport
Stanos and the General
# Jan 17 2005 at 10:47 AM Rating: Decent
42 posts
I just got mine on 1/15/05 and there are some things you should know...

Do NOT fight Stanos in his area. He summons the whole zone to come help him and you'll get adds out the wazoo.

Do NOT turn your back on him, he backstabs for 2100+.

He does NOT always drop his head, as was the case for me. But a rogue can respawn him so I killed him again and he had it.

I had an iksar monk friend invis up and follow me. I spawned Stanos and the monk pulled him to zone, he runs pretty fast and kept up with us. The monk FDed and the warrior tagged, we avoided all of the mobs(both times) that would have assisted him had we tried to kill him where he spawns.

We had about 8 chars, 2 people were 2 boxing.

Raid makeup was 2 clerics, pally, warrior, shaman, monk, and 2 rogues.

I didnt zone fast enough to avoid the faction hit before he died, but i was still ally afterwards.

He isnt immune to snare but fat chance of it landing, when I tried him with my sk i couldnt get it to stick and neither did my proc on my rogue.

He will flee at 10% health, he walks and doesnt run.

As for the General Fight or turnin I should say. NO Longer do you have to be sneaking and unhidden for the turnin to the dark elf and subsequently the general.

I couldnt figure it out, I would sneak behind them while unhidden and it still said scowls, finally frustrated I just decided to turnin while hidden to the coercer and it worked. Then I gave Stanos' head to the general hidden again and it also worked.

So stay sneaking and hidden to turn in.

Which actually leads me to believe if you are turning in while hidden(turnin does not knock off your sneak and hide) then you dont actually need to kill any DE's. You could just give to one of them while hidden and when the general popped give him the head also while hidden. Wow that would've been so much easier had I known.

# Dec 16 2004 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
I received mine today.

Let me tell you, that last turn in is extremely nerve-wracking.

I'm so happy!

Guise of the Coercer Walkthrough.
# Aug 24 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
My e-mail is down so I couldn't submit this to the site the ordinary way.

To obtain the high elf mask you'll be repeating the epic up until just before the General V`ghera. Ideally you'll will need to obtain level 50 first as it is still reported that some of the quest NPC's will not follow the quest text until you have done so.

1) You'll begin in North Kaladim at Founy Jestands. Level 45, despawns every game day at 7AM and will then respawn at 8AM just down from the zone in on the left wall. (Some reports have him despawning at 8AM and then respawning at 9 or 10 AM)

You will need to Pick Pocket Founy for the "Stained Parchment Top." You may have to repeat the process several times and is also reported that you must have a minimum 200 in pick pocket to retrieve the parchment.

If you get caught picking Founy and aggro you will in turn aggro a level 55 rogue guild master named Corvsar Dirkbringer and your friendly patrolling dorf guard if he is pathing in the area at the time. It's just a short romp to the zone in however. /disc nimble and run backward if you find yourself at low health.

2) Once you've received the stained parchment top, run over to Neriak 3rd gate into the rogue guild to find Tani N`mar level 43. You'll need to Pick pocket Tani to receive the "Stained parchment bottom." Tani despawns at 7PM and respawns again at 8PM. (Again, spawn times vary upon different reports to within one game hour)

Reports of being able to pick pocket Tani from the roof at +650, -1300 say it has been nerfed. Do try if you want to face less risk of running to the zone if you happen to be caught. You run the risk of not hearing the aggro but if when you go to re-hide and you see the evade fail message this is your cue to high tail it out to the zone.

On a side note, you can do this without the mask of deception but it is reccomended that you first visit LGuk and the Ghoul Assassin, level 35 undead rogue froglok. Loot:

Mask of Deception
AC: +4 Cha: +13 Magic Resist: +7
Weight: 0.4
Classes: Bard Rogue
Races: All Races
Inventory Slot: Face
Can be stored in Medium and larger containers

Effect: Illusion Dark Elf
Type: Triggered
Charges: Unlimited
Level for Effect: 15

3) Your next stop is in the Plane of Hate. You need to first buy a Fulligran's Soulstone of Innoruk. These can be purchased in the Neriak cleric guild off of Dvis Zexus if memory serves. Find yourself a wizard, give the stone to him/her and port up to the PoH.

You and the wizard must be a minimum of level 46 to port to PoH. Your next step in the quest is to retrieve The Book of Souls. It is located in PoH at loc +180, -320. The building at this loc is opposite the door to the new Maestro.

There are several ways in which you can do this...
A) If of lower level and no SoS, take a death down in Norrath, port to PoH, have a cleric standing by and have the cleric rez that corpse once you've obtained the book. Do not use a dueled corpse as this will only allow you 10 minutes for a rez and if you are not familiar with the new hate you may be cutting the rez clock too close.
b) Have a Thurg or Alchemy made gate potion on hand, run back to zone in once you've retrieved the book and gate out.
c) Have the wizard wait at zone in or have that wizard cast TL to bind point on you leaving the box up and available to click yes on once you've retrieved the book. You only have a short time to retrieve the book using this method however.

4) Now head to Highpass Hold and locate Stanos Herkanor Level 65 Rogue trainer. You must first however locate Anson McBale. He is the trigger mob for Stanos. One you have done so, Hail Anson and /say I need to see Stanos.

Do this standing atop the table because if you are standing on the spot Stanos' spawn spot, he will despawn. Anson and the nearest smuggler will at times not reset if aggroed but rather gather on Stanos' spawn spot not allowing Stanos to spawn until they have been reset again.

Once Stanos is visible to you, hand him the stained parchment top AND bottom. He will return to you the "Combined Parchment."

5) You will then need to travel to Lake Rathetear to locate Eldreth, level 49 Erudite. He stands in a tower on a small island at loc +2600, -500. His spawn time is reported to be 7-8 hours. To him you will hand the Combined Parchment, two unstacked bottles of milk and 100 plat pieces. He will give you a "Scribbled Parchment" in return.

6) Now head over to Steamfront mountains with a ranger or druid for tracking. You need to locate Yendar Starpyre a level 63 gnome. Yendar roams the zone and despawns when used. If unable to find Yendar it may be possible to trigger him.

He was not on track when I went looking but found through a post here on the safe house that stated you can travel to Ak'anon to Yendars brother Tobon Starpyre in the casters guild, hail him and say the phrase who is yendar? And that this will cause Yendar to spawn in SF.

My druid did in fact find him on track a few minutes later but can I confirm this was the cause? No.

Once you have located Yendar /say translate this document to hold him. Hailing him will not stop his path. We did this next part easily with a 65 rogue, 65 druid and 65 shaman. Bring what you need according to your level/equippment. DO NOT ATTACK YENDAR!

Hand Yendar the Scribbled Parchment and he will return to you the "Tattered Parchment." Next you give this Tattered Parchment and the book of Souls to Yendar to then spawn Renux Herkanor level 51. (Stanos' Daughter?) Kill that Human! That or she'll kill you =)

Loot from Renux the "Translated Parchment"

7) Return to HPH, spawn Stanos and hand him the Trasnlated parchment to receive the "Sealed box."

Now the fun begins. If you've not made a habit of hanging out in the elemental planes though... I would suggest bringing a minimum of two higher level groups. Now we get to kill Stanos. There are a few mobs you will need to contend with and numerous ways to do so. When you pull Stanos... Anson and Cyrla Shadowstepper will assist. Pacification will land but they still aggro when you pull.

Cyrla Shadowstepper is level 61 and is reported to have one million hit points. It took a group of friends 90 minutes to chop her down.

You have several options here...

a) The one I used... Have your kill force hug the east wall up the small ramp there. (Because some are sure to be KoS) Spawn Stanos, pull him to the center of the CY outside his room and hit escape. Once he's alone have your MT or rogue friend engage. I had to turn and use /disc nimble because I allowed some buffs to fade and he was kicking my bum good =)
b) Have a monk/Sk try to split.
c) Run Stanos and his friends to the zone where your party awaits you, zone out and engage Stanos once single.

Stanos has 64k hit points and does have a zone wide call for help but they did not attack us. Was this because he was dead before they reached us? Or a change to his zone wide aggro? They pathed to his room and went home shortly there after. Loot "Stanos' Head." You and your party will take a substantial faction hit for this kill to several factions. Mostly that of those in High Pass.

9) It is possible to do this next and last part solo, get some buffs and a sow. Run to the inky cabin in Kithkor to locate a burnt cabin full of inkies at loc +800, +2400. In sneak and hide pick an inky, any inky and turn in the sealed box. The DE on the west side of the cabin with a burnt out piece in the wall has the easiest access.

This will cause General V'Ghera to spawn. You may very easily catch aggro from the general and the entire cabin of inkies. If this happens, run out of spell casting range and hit escape. This is a risky adventure. You may want to have a cleric on hand to rez. But do get at a safe enough distance from the cabin that your cleric can retrieve the corpse safely.

Your other option would be to bring a very good group or two, use pacification and pull the inkies/undead trash solo until the cabin is clear of all but one DE. Hit your sneak and hide, run to the cabin and turn in the sealed box to spawn the general.

Once the general is spawned and you are clear of any and all aggro, get behind the general in sneak/hide and turn in Stanos' head.

Yay! General gone and you with:

Guise of the Coercer
AC: +4 Cha: +13 Magic Resist: +7
Weight: 0.4
Classes: Bard Rogue
Races: Vah Shir Dwarf Gnome Dark Elf Barbarian Halfling Wood Elf Half Elf Human
Inventory Slot: Face
Can be stored in Small and larger containers

Effect: Illusion High Elf
Type: Triggered
Charges: Unlimited
Level for Effect: 15
another question...
# Nov 23 2002 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
we got Stano's head from Malka Rale or something in the Qeynos Catacombs... can I turn that in to the general just by sneaking? Or do I have to say something to him to get the mask? Or is this not the same head at all? I am a bard so I can't sneak/hide... was wondering if this would work (if I got him to actually spawn)
RE: another question...
# Dec 18 2003 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
I think briefly there was a bug where she did drop his head. It would be easy to go to the Sony site and look at past update messages but regardless she doesn't drop in now.
RE: another question...
# Apr 13 2003 at 2:22 AM Rating: Default
I really want to believe this post.. once I read this, I spent a few hours in the catacombs and killed Malka 10 times, all she drops is the same daggers that stanos drops. Maybe I was just horribly unlucky, has anyone else had the head drop off this NPC?
RE: another question...
# Jun 04 2003 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
You sure it wasn't Stanos' Pouch? That's used to spawn Stanos, by giving it to Anson McBale, in HPH. Malka is supposed to hand it to you...she most definately doesn't drop his head.
illusion masks
# Sep 05 2002 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
just FYI on illusion masks heres the list of em dark elf = LGUK off assassin iksar = TT off a named iksar ghoust thing high elf = well this quest barb = rare drop of AOW or the king in kael gnome is from ST vah shire drops off a shissar assassin or something there half elf drops off zed sticklebush in JP halfling drops off i have heard herbilist and queen in chardok and erudite am not sure atm
RE: illusion masks
# Nov 07 2002 at 4:31 PM Rating: Excellent
Links to the other respective masks you mention (except barbarian): Dark Elf, Iksar, Gnome, Vah Shir, Half Elf, Halfling 1and Halfling 2, and Erudite.

Fire Elemental

Water Elemental
# Apr 02 2002 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
about the "how bout using mask of deception from LGUK" the de's in kith are KoS to everyone even people in DE form they dont run on faction if your a PC and they see you
# Dec 13 2002 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
Actually they're on 'Residents of Bloody Kithicor' faction. Factions are not limited to starting cities.
Stanos hits Hard
# Dec 14 2001 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
well we tryed to get this for a fellow..rogue...
but there was like i would say 20-30 50+s there.. man he hits hard like quad 500s..and if he agros your dead... so you dont last long.. and if you tried to rune or heal the main agroer..he would run over and Boom .. next Boom.. ehhe
he is harder then nagafen or vox by far
So glad the clerics had res sticks died a few times.. for a toy . ahahah but it was funny anyways
# Nov 19 2001 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
Won't let me reply so posting.

Hey Kollins, you posted that this is usless for a bard to do because can't sneak, be invis, yadda yadda yadda.
How about using the Mask of Deception in LGuk?
Makes ya a DE so basically.. YES you can do this quest.

RE: Bard?
# Oct 18 2002 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
Um... bards get sneak. That's all you need.
RE: Bard?
# Oct 16 2002 at 9:27 PM Rating: Default
The dark elves are on undead of kithicor faction so no a DE mask does nothing.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 17 2001 at 2:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if you know what lv this procs send me an email to THanks
can anyone use?
# Aug 05 2001 at 8:08 PM Rating: Default
I was wondering if maybe anyone could use this item, just like the old Guise of the Deciever that dropped in Guk.
RE: can anyone use?
# Oct 01 2001 at 4:22 PM Rating: Decent
its rogues and bards only
its not for anyone but them
more useless info
# Aug 02 2001 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
198 posts
"Couldn't a Bard sneak and play her invis song at the same time to do the quest?" - no, each tick of your song breaks any sneak or hide

"NPCs will not respond to hails or [quest] prompts if you are sneaking behind them" -not true, they won't respond if you are HIDING or INVISIBLE

"gonna be hard for a bard to get this item considering you need to sneak/hide behind the general" - you need to SNEAK but not hide, putting items in trade with an NPC breaks the hide part of rogue sneak/hide anyhow

Bards can sneak behind an NPC to get indifferent, I do it all the time, but you have to either check con on an NPC or notice the change in movement speed as you don't get rogue message. Bards can not sneak+hide to move while sneaking but you only need sneak. Bards also can't use songs while sneaking as each tick of your song will break it. You don't hide behind someone to get a quest, you sneak behind them...hiding makes you invisible and means they will not respond to your words, sneak makes them indifferent as long as they have their backs to you. If you sneak and hail a KOS NPC from behind they usually turn and face you to respond which means they now see you sneaking and you ARE KOS, this is acceptable on low level mobs who will ignore you as a tombstone con to them, or with monks who can just play dead, but probably isn't very fun for a rogue or bard to do with the general. I imagine that you could hotkey some socials with the correct phrases already in them ("/say who is stanos" and/or "/say i will kill stanos") and just pump them out really fast. I like the CoH idea, tell your mage when to start casting and if you've timed it right you are called in right after you've spoken and just as the general gets a good look at you from the front and is figuring out that he should be laying the smack down on ya.

So theoretically if you wanted to just get the mask you would have to a) start ragebringer quest at least enough to get general to pop b) talk to general to get stanos to pop c) have enough people to actually kill stanos and d) sneak back to general and turn stanos' head in for your mask. If you want the mask I would definitly suggest that you do the first steps of ragebringer yourself as I'm sure no rogue would want to have to start their epic over just so you could get one.

RE: more useless info
# Jul 09 2002 at 9:24 PM Rating: Default
Might also be important to remember that hailed mobs usually wait a couple seconds to turn around...easy to do with a pause macro...what I want to know is if I (a bard) could bring some more people along with a rogue who's already doing his pud epic quest and sneak this quest in before the rogue does his part...I know a couple rogues who have purposefully thrown their epics to help finish a strong creature anyway...they do the epic quest fairly regularly. But will doing this quest ***** up the rogue's epic mission?
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 18 2002 at 2:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And your a freakin idiot!!! You can't throw a no-drop item foo. So don't post if all your gonna do is make up lies.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 18 2003 at 11:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 23 2003 at 5:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lmao lmao lmao lmao
RE: more useless info
# Sep 02 2001 at 2:17 AM Rating: Excellent
""Couldn't a Bard sneak and play her invis song at the same time to do the quest?" - no, each tick of your song breaks any sneak or hide"

Actually this is not totally true. The starting of the invis song will break sneak and/or hide but each tick does not break sneak if you successfully sneak after that. You say, 'but you're a druid, how would you know?' and I say, I also have a 51 bard and have used that tactic on more than one occasion =P
RE: more useless info
# Aug 14 2001 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
Songs started before sneak no longer break it. Very nice to be able to sneak faster than SoW speed.
# May 31 2001 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
In a couple days some high level friends are going to try to help me do this sub-quest so I can get a mask - and yes, I'm a bard. I know the General is extremely high level, but has anyone tried the obvious - dark elf illusion on and some sort of alliance song? Maybe its just my lowly level 38 thinking. :) Oh well, throw in sneak and invis on top of it perhaps. I guess I'll find out and I'll post what I had to do.
RE: Hrm....
# Feb 21 2002 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
I am a Dark Elf Shadowknight just as the general is...and he dislikes EVERYONE. I was on a Kith raid and though I'd con him before i did anything (i.e. attack, taunt and whatnot) Red at 51 (of course) and Ready to Attack...the truth is is that this guy doesn't work on Indigo Brotherhood Faction, he is actually part of the "Bloody Legion of Kithcor" (something like that, kill a roamer and you'll see it) and they are KoS to everyone.
gotta be quick
# May 28 2001 at 2:13 AM Rating: Default
first off, it's easy to hide/sneak up and get the quest, but before you get there say the trigger phrases so you can shift+up quickly thru him, since he'll wax you if you don't respond in time.

he doesn't get happy at the mention of stanos' name, so you need to say [i will kill stanos!] pretty darn quick.

then take off, do all the crap with a ton of uge friends, hide/sneak back, head + general = mask. then run like a girl out of the kith ;)
Sneak and Invis, perhaps?
# May 24 2001 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
A bard can't sneak and hide, but if they Sneak and ivis, then let invis drop while they are still sneaking, how about that? Has anyone tried it?
Bards sneaking and hiding
# May 06 2001 at 4:08 AM Rating: Default
Couldn't a Bard sneak and play her invis song at the same time to do the quest?

Wrenn Whitehand
Human Cleric of E Marr
Fennin Ro
RE: Bards sneaking and hiding
# May 24 2001 at 5:53 PM Rating: Default
17 posts
This quest is completable by Bards. If you have doubts you can see a bard using this mask at where Aftathott of Afterlife is using this mask.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 06 2001 at 6:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 1) General Vhagera is KOS to all races
RE: Sounds like a fake...
# May 06 2001 at 8:56 PM Rating: Default
umm yeah they do, i've done various quests from NPCs which scowl at me (in skyshrine and cabilis for example) while sneaking.
RE: Sounds like a fake...
# May 17 2001 at 5:41 AM Rating: Default
this item is not a fake, and you can, of course talk to npcs while sneaking...but not while invis
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