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Claw of Lightning  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 18
DMG: 14 Dmg Bonus: 30
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +8 DEX: +8 AGI: +8
SV MAGIC: +10
Haste: +41%
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: WAR RNG ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Slashing
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2020-12-19 01:42:05
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
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Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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Drops: This item is found on creatures.

Temple of Veeshan


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Vs Epic
# Sep 21 2004 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
These are a fine epic replacement for a ranger IF---- you don't use them all the time. When using a bow - you would want Swiftwind in your off hand. Specially if you are doing an AOE fight. So if you are doing your ranger duty and fighting from the side or behind --- then this is the optimum choice. But if you are tanking for an exp group then the bonuses of Swiftwind would outway the greater Ratio.

We recently got one of these for a Ranger that - I think had epic - and A Warrior that really needed a haste item.
even better with a proc
# Nov 14 2003 at 4:05 AM Rating: Default
I just recently added an Anger 3 proc to this fine wep...nice having 41% haste and 600 hate from one slot :D

[65 Overlord]Sunstorm(Barbarian)
haste amount
# Aug 26 2003 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
haste is 41% according to magelo
Hhhhmmmm, what can I loot-flame today...
# Jun 25 2003 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
You know, most of the guys posting their whines (need some cheese with that?) about the loot for these mobs have, obviously never taken one of them down. `Cause if they had, they wouldn't be whining. They would be actually going up against a fraggin` mob that DID drop something they wanted!

Eevill Inkarnate
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Saryrn
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 09 2002 at 12:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) For the mob that it comes off of, I'd just like to say that this weapon will be found only on uber people. So drool all you like :)
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 20 2002 at 5:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Err, What the #&)$?.. Vox?!, Primal??!..those 2 words don't even fit in the same sentence!!
Haste / look
# Apr 29 2002 at 3:51 PM Rating: Default
Actually looks like a claw you can see what it looks like on my magelo profile.

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=29113


Haste is 41%

RE: Haste / look
# Jul 24 2004 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
Your magelo won't work.
haste, eh?
# Apr 24 2002 at 1:38 PM Rating: Default
How much haste does this thing pack?
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 13 2002 at 5:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This should be for monks!!! OMFG
RE: Monk Item!!!
# Apr 21 2002 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
umm fist of lightning drops off same mob, and its 15/18 with same stats..monk only
Question...
# Feb 26 2002 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
Anyone know what this looks like when held? Thanks
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 26 2001 at 6:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /drool
Answer
# Nov 02 2001 at 4:51 PM Rating: Default
Explain

Is this actually a claw, meaning does it look like a claw? I see it above and it looks like you wear it on your range slot. Just wondering, i am on the verge of getting it soon
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 31 2001 at 5:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) everyone knows rangers give out the most damage hehe., nah but seriously, on a plane raid in hate, i was in the KS xp group, it had a monk, 2 rangers, shammy, and various other classes in last spot, didnt matter, we ruled, go monks and rangers! speed kills!
Optimism
# Sep 26 2001 at 6:26 PM Rating: Good
We handed Eashan his **** yesterday an picked one of these up.

Heres the idea behind Verants loot placement. Epic weapons (all of them) have a use in the game at every possible level and each have thier role, even ranger, warrior, or rogue epic items. You will understand this when you reach 60 and into the highest end of the game. With items like these, it gives 60th level players a reason to continue playing. There are no more charecter advancements beyond 60 than loot. You can say these claws are better than a ranger's epic, but then again only in situational circumstances. Same thing with other classes and thier epics.

Verant made epic items to be the "peak" usage item for that class. There may be items that come close or exceed in certain situations, but every charecter will be much more rounded and useful with an epic rather than any single ToV, ST, or VP item.


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RE: Optimism
# Mar 31 2002 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default

With the Coming of the Planes of Power this might be delayed to when you advance past lvl 60 but when you reach your cap you probobly will still continue looking for the most powerful and/or good looking loot
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 13 2001 at 5:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) fully hasted this ***** is only 14/14, not that great. I would rather pull out something a little lower dammage so I can hit faster. but you konw thats just my opinion.
RE: Ehhhh
# Oct 03 2001 at 6:21 PM Rating: Default
Haste is calulated by this formula...

D-(D(2/H))

D=Delay
H=Haste

With max haste (105% @ level 60) would bring the weapon to 14/8.55, but theres a theory that minimum delay can only be 10, so well either way you have a vary fast and painful weapon. With the attached 40% haste to the claw, that opens up for a modest 65% from an enchanters speed stick that perfectly matches the weapons maximum limitations while opening up that much useable back or waist slot for something more useful. IMO, its a vary impressive item.
RE: Ehhhh
# Jan 12 2002 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
Your formula does not calculate. try this one..


delay x's haste = delay adjustment

delay - delay adjustment = New delay

ie.

lammy 9/19

19 x .4 = 7.6
19 - 7.6 = 11.4

so this delay will work is not below 10..however i am not sure about the 10delay rule.
RE: Ehhhh
# Jan 21 2002 at 2:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry Prothos, but your formula doesn't calculate either. There are few instances where being a math major comes in handy in real life, but as we're talking abot EQ and not real life I feel I can speak with confidence.
Now let's start off with the basic concepts. When you add 100% to something you double it. (x + 100%x = 2x) So if you were to recieve 100% haste, you would move twice as fast. Another way to put that is to say your delay would be cut in half.
So the delay of a lammy at 100% haste should be 9.5 (half of 19). However with the formula you gave, we would get
19 x 1 = 19
(Delay x Haste = Delay Adjustment)
19 - 19 = 0
(Delay - Delay Adjustment = New Delay)
So by your formula the delay of a lammy at 100% haste is 0. And that just ain't right.

You were right about one thing, the formula given by Strahm is wrong also. Applying his formula to a lammy at 100% haste would give
D - D(2/H)
= 19 - 19(2/100%)
= 19 - 19(2/1)
= 19 - 19(2)
= 19 - 38
= -19.
So Strahm's formula gives you a negative delay. And that really ain't right.

THE CORRECT FORMULA FOR CALCULATING HASTE FOLLOWS:
(Delay/(1+Haste)) = New Delay
It's that easy.
I'll check myself using a lammy at 100% haste since I like that example.
(19/(1 + 100%))
= (19/2)
= 9.5
And there you have it folks.

Back to the Claws of Lightning now. With a delay of 18 and an effect of 40% Haste your delay would be
(18/(1+.4))
= 12.857.... which verant probably rounds up so these claws become 14/13 weapons before any spell or song haste.
Please people spread this formula around. There are so many incorrect formulae around people are getting confused.
RE: Ehhhh
# Aug 02 2003 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
Raythe hit the nail on the head. The only comment I have is that the formula should have read as follows, in order to calculate correctly:

Weapon Delay/[1+(haste/100] = New Delay

I say this only to clear up the conversion from the % to a decimal that some people have not picked up on yet.
RE: Ehhhh
# May 30 2002 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
You hit the nail on the head Raythe. Well done.
That is the correct formula.

New Delay = Orgn. Delay / (1+ haste %)
RE: Ehhhh
# Apr 23 2002 at 6:23 PM Rating: Default
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What the hell?? I dont understand your theory. 1 + the haste percentage? Wouldn't that make 100% = 101%?

Can you do you're theory for me with 40% haste (ranger epic) and a lammy (9/19)? Thanks.
RE: Ehhhh
# Apr 24 2002 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
Percent means "parts out of 100"
So 100% is 100 parts out of 100, or 100/100
Thus 100% translates into 1.
So 1+100% would be 2.

Using his formulae, a lammy (9/19) at 40% haste would be...
19/(1+.4)
= 19/1.4
= 13.57
Rounded, you'd effectivly be 9/14
RE: Ehhhh
# Apr 28 2002 at 6:00 PM Rating: Default
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Thanks a lot, I understand now.
#Zaztik, Posted: Apr 23 2002 at 6:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the hell?? I dont understand your theory. 1 + the haste percentage? Wouldn't that make 100% = 101%?
RE: Ehhhh
# Feb 26 2002 at 12:08 AM Rating: Default
Hey, I'm not flaming you guys in anyway, I just gotta now how the heck you came up with that equation? I think it all comes bck to E=MC2, Or Pi=3.14-etc. But what do I know about Everquest? I thought that the stuff I learned in school wouldn't help me. doh!
RE: Ehhhh
# Jun 02 2003 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
Hehe, here goes.
New Delay = Old Delay/Haste Ratio.
At 0% haste New Delay = Old Delay, which means Old Delay/1.
If a weapon is 100% hasted, that means it will swing twice as fast. (using 10dmg/20dly weapon to make it simpler) A 20dly weapon will now become 10.
Hence 10 (new Delay) = 20 (Old Delay)/ 2 (Ratio of 1 + 1).

I think that's as best as I can explain it.
RE: Ehhhh
# Nov 15 2001 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
and let's not forget that the haste affects the other 1hs weapon you are using, if you are doing so
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 20 2001 at 8:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your an idiot, no one cares what you think.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 25 2001 at 1:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This has to be the best wepon in the game YEA!!!
uber gear
# Aug 14 2001 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good


its pointless to endlessly debate on what class should get these uber items. the guilds that are aquiring them have their own systems for awarding loot. there are soo many factors that influence loot placement... raid attendance, seniority, current weapons and armor, class, etc. this gear will never be obtained by a pickup raid, these mobs require a very tight raid force to kill. it seems like the people that have the strongest oppinions are the ones that havent even been to Temple of Veeshan. please... give it a rest.


as for the lightning claw, its a very nice offhand weapon for any class listed. im a ranger with one and its a great upgrade over the swiftwind. i would say it increases my damage output by about 15% over the swiftwind and without adding any extra taunt. epics are nice but they dont have to be the "end all, be all" of EQ weapons, there should always be something better to get.... thats half the fun of EQ.


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#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 12 2001 at 5:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WOW, OMG, WTF this is the best monk weapon ever. I am a level 1 monk I want this send me a tell in game and I'll buy it from you.
RE: All stupid people should die!
# Aug 23 2001 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
It is pretty great but not the best. If you want best look at Shuriken of Tranquility. 200/20 i kid you not.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 20 2001 at 1:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry, this IS a real item BUT it's 100/20 and MONK ONLY. Max hit of 565 with 200 range! I can see it now, your Monk and Ranger both have 100HP left and Vox is still strong, they run to the back and the Ranger with his Primal Velium Bow and Talon's arrows (with Treushot Dis) and the Monk with his SHURIKEN. The best falls, teh guild is saved and the two with the fewist HP's have done it! I know, it would be a sight.
RE: All stupid people should die!
# Oct 28 2001 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
What's a level 55+ ranger doing with vox. I'll help narrow it down. Not killing her. Just thought I'd point that out.
RE: All stupid people should die!
# Jan 26 2003 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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While it IS true that people over level 53 can't participate in dragon raids without being ported outside the room, I don't recall seeing anyone in this thread mention being a 55+Ranger and being involved in a dragon raid. So, yes, stupid people like yourself must die!!
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RE: All stupid people should die!
# Aug 13 2001 at 11:57 PM Rating: Default
I HOPE that was sarcasam. Judging from the subject line, I'll assume it was. :)
Verant you retards
# Aug 12 2001 at 2:25 AM Rating: Default
Why is verant so stupid. Epics come out, people strive as hard as they can to solve the quests. Everyone searches for the epic starters (I helped to find some at the start) and then they try to figure out what to do. Many people are in awe of the few that pop up to the best people on the server, then more and more show up, we are happy. Then velious, we explore, find stuff. BAM! Fck the epics, they suck. Well, gifts from the gods themselves can't hold their candle to little dragon items.
Question
# Aug 01 2001 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
Alright I have a question, everybody talks about Ragebringer and Primal spear being best combo for a rogue, why would it not be better to have this in offhand and Primal in Main or something similar? I'm just wondering if there is something I don't know.
so much misinformation...
# Jul 31 2001 at 11:38 AM Rating: Default
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brain... gonna explode....
First off...HASTE... one haste ITEM per haste... spells, songs, items stack but NO... you can't use a FBSS, CoF, and This weapon to get SUPER-HASTE...
Secondly... better than Primal?... I guess the ratio is better... you just have to ignore the +5 to EVERY STAT and RESIST, +50 HP and MANA, and the Avatar proc that adds 100 to STR, DEX, AGI, and ATK.... hmm... yah, if you ignore that this is better..
Lastly, do you want to know EXACTLY who will get this weapon?... probably somebody who has a better weapon and doesn't need it... because we all know Verant has about 3 out of their 1 billion quests that have the true risk=reward factor.
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holy !!!
# Jul 30 2001 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
...ok, I have now found that there is no logical reason to raid ST. Sleepers Tomb is MUCH harder to get into than ToV, and the mobs are MUCH harder. Here, you go into ToV, and get a weapon that has both better damage (14 vs. 13) and ratio (18 vs. 20) than the Primal weapons. And that ratio is NOT including haste! This is FAR better than the epic weapons, and FAR better than the ST weapons! This, in other words, is THE best 1hs in the game. Period, no ifs, ands or buts.
RE: holy !!!
# Aug 04 2001 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
ST harder than ToV? Um, you can take 18 ppl into ST and wipe out everything up to the warders. First 3 warders are doable with 24. After the first 3 fairly easy ones, the 4th is orders of magnitude harder. This weapon is not the standard in ToV, it's the exception. This weapon is Yelinak, Aaryonar or a mob along those lines loot IMO, or should be rather. I agree that having the best offhander in the game coming from Eashen (who is pretty much a pushover) while AoW drops a 15/23 1 hander is pretty damn stupid and obtuse on VI's part, but the only thing that makes ST difficult is the fact that it's keyed. If ST were not a keyed dungeon it would be permacamped by every 58+ chump and his bradda. Most of the mobs there are NOT that hard. 3 group kills are not hard mobs.

Funny thing about this weapon is lvl 50-51 twinks were allowed to loot it because it was fairly crappy before the big ToV loot patch. Now there's high ranking mains jealous of people's twinks lol.
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# Jul 30 2001 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
WTF! Is it just me or didn't this use to be 9/18?
lol
# Jul 29 2001 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
Whoever said warrior/ranger epic was better is one major dumbass lol. he sed warrior had a better ratio, warriors is 14 24, this is 14 18
#Anonymous, Posted: May 26 2001 at 7:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wtf no BARD
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