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Hammer of Battle  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 25
DMG: 17 Dmg Bonus: 30
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +10 DEX: +5 AGI: +5 HP: +75
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG BST
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Blunt
Stackable:No
Submitted By:Tulkas Ehren
Lucy Entry By:rethcaw
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2020-11-24 06:16:55
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Item


Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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gds
# May 19 2005 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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AHEYAS
# May 19 2005 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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what the graphic
# Aug 04 2004 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
what is the graphic on this item?
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 08 2003 at 3:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK HERE IS HOW DAMAGE BONOUS WORKS IT ONLY AFFECTS (PRIMARY HAND) THE REASON WHY YOU HIT FOR 1 WAS WITH OFFHAND AND BOWS DONT GET DAMAGE BONOUS ONLY (PRIMARY HAND)
Parsed a bit
# Nov 16 2002 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
Parsed this on hobgoblins in PON today and it was beating Mithril Edged Short Sword by about 10 DPS pretty consistantly, and Earthcaller by about 15-20. I guess low delay is not everything in a PRI weap.
Statue dropped 2 and they were practically going to rot since nobody liked the 25 delay.

61 Ranger
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 04 2003 at 11:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wow 2 rotting wish i was in zone i would of sacked a lvl for one, why ok
RE: Parsed a bit
# Jun 26 2003 at 6:10 PM Rating: Excellent
Cant compare this to LSoEE, this is primary only and the only people i see with LSoEE in primary is rangers using swiftwind, nobody would say a word if people made LSoEE secondary only lol
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 05 2002 at 1:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMFG TY VERANT FOR NOT NERFING THIS !!!!!!!
RE: un nerfd and ready to be looted
# Nov 07 2002 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
You are an idiot.
That is all.
Keep an eye out for future announcements.

As for hammer.
Drops off Statue of Rallos Zek in Kael Drakkal.
Level 59 mob with estimated 400,000hp.
It IS slowable.
Max meele hit is 1050 damage.

Hammer usually goes to Monks, Bards, Rangers and Beastlords as it is too slow for Warriors, and Rogues use piercers in main hand.
BST
# Jul 27 2002 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
This is beastlord usable btw.
wtf....
# Jul 03 2002 at 4:19 PM Rating: Default
so much BS on this post. O well. i'm 60 bard and i love this hammer. nobody else in my guild uses it, i got it cause nobody wanted the POS. well im happy till my siren song. hopefully soon.

n00bs learn your **** quit talking out your asses. Killed stachoo numerous times, you do MT rotation. usually stach00 is dead with just 2 or 3 MTs. If you have a lot of clerics its possible to use one MT the whole fight, but usually easier the other way.

peace out.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 08 2001 at 9:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is 17dmg not 16, and with max haste it has a better dmg/dly ratio then pansy *** epic fists.
Comparison with Monk Epic fists
# Jul 04 2003 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
While 17/25 is indeed a very nice ratio, the epic fists are superior after level 58 (1H damage bonus >= 11).

Comparison of Modals:

Hammer of Battle = (2*17+11)/25 = 1.8

Epic primary fist = (2*9+11)/16 = 1.8125

... and the difference continues to grow post-60.
RE: Epic fists suck
# Aug 18 2002 at 5:58 PM Rating: Good
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the point is with a delay of 16, you hit lets say (just an example) 10 times a second. that means that AS long as you hit, your doing a guarenteed 12 damage (1+11dmg bonus (at 60)).
however, with the 25 delay weapon, you hit 5 times a second (not correct, im just making a point), so your damage bonus only gets factored 5 times.

Therefor, even if you hit harder, you will often get out damaged by faster weapons in PRIMARY only, because of damage bonus.
RE: Epic fists suck
# Sep 05 2002 at 5:51 AM Rating: Default
I dont know if thats how a dmg bonus actually works, I could be wrong though. Speaking as a 60 ranger I use swiftwind and skybreaker as melee weapons, and due to a bug in NToV the other night my only bow I have is the widsabre 13 22. here is my point to make about dmg bonus. If Im missing something or incorrect let me know please. I know this isnt the correct place to post this but I do have this hammer banked as well.

wind sabre 13 dmg 22 del ( 11 dg bonus at level 60 )

blessed champion arrows 11 dmg 4 fire dmg ( 11 dmg bonus at level 60 )

13+11+11=35 +4 =39 if check vs fire fails

soloing in FG mushrooms not a very high ac I have shot for dmg as low as 2. however I have gotten as high as 350 non disc hits if stationary double dmg shot.

I have also slashed for 1's as well cant recall if I have crushed for less than 12 or not in main hand. I believe that the dmg bonus 11 is set to max dmg with weapon not minimal dmg. Again I could be wrong.

I was XPing in velks using both epics and a rogue in group asked me how was I slashing a mob for 94 ( i had no aaxp at the time ) I told him I was using a 14 dmg weapon. He told me he was also using a 14 dmg weapon in offhand. I told him that main hand has a dmg bonus. For an experiment he put his epic in offhand and put the 14 dmg sword in mainhand. He still couldnt get beyond 86 I think but he was level 59.

I see to factors in this. I had a 250 1hs skill at level 60 plus 11 dmg bonus- him being level 59 I assume he had 245 1hs skill and if Im not mistaken only a 10dmg bonus. Thus limiting his total dmg output. Now factoring all of this and looking at my experiances with archery ( non trueshot ) I have still hit below 12 I have even had below 12dmg hits in trueshot with 255 dex. So I believe that the dmg bonuses are calculated for the max dmg not minamal dmg. Main hand could have a minmal dmg but I have never noticed. I will keep an eye out to see if I never crush below 12 since my main hand is a 1hb and offhand is a 1hs
RE: Epic fists suck
# Mar 19 2002 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
17 25<9 16 in mainhand above level 52 where your damage bonus is 9... because

9+17=26 25 ratio 1.04
9+9=18 16 ratio 1.125
RE: Epic fists suck
# Mar 25 2002 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
Hmmm, dmg bonus isn't added to the DMG of the weapon, it's added to the damage given, right? I fail to see how your formula has any relevance, but maybe I'm missing something?

The best way to reliably compare two weapons effectiveness is to take a log of the damage output, and use a DPS calculator.
RE: Epic fists suck
# Apr 10 2002 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
correct and the dmg bonus when u'd prolly get this would be 11 anyway =P VI has yet to release their dmg calcs(and even the dmg bonus is not the dmg bonus used in the game, that number comes from calcs from before they tinkered w/ the dmg bonus a second time) so any calculation other than looking at raw damage on the same mob over a long period of time is going to be incorrect.
RE: Epic fists suck
# Oct 26 2001 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
sucks that the gloves are arguably better then anything else in the game just because of the atk and hps/saves from them.
RE: Epic fists suck
# Apr 08 2002 at 2:53 AM Rating: Default
Explain to me again why it "sucks" that the easiest epic to get is something you get to keep throughout all your time as a monk, and never have to upgrade.

Or are you talking about different slots? Because as well all know, the epic goes in the HANDS slot while this weapon goes in the PRIMARY WEAPON slot...apples to oranges.

Edited, Mon Apr 8 03:49:52 2002
RE: Epic fists suck
# Oct 10 2002 at 10:00 PM Rating: Default
Well he meant more that once you have epic, the determining factor of epics is whether you hold a weapon or not. If not, then the ratio is so damn good with fists that it better be a good weapon or proc or something, cause you very likely might do less damage with some cool weapons just because of the sheer speed of epic hasted and ATK increased fists.

.../shrug

Thats how I heard it anyhow.

Peace, Ashremm Daystar, Monk of Luclin <Medieval>

Getting facts straight
# Sep 30 2001 at 9:17 PM Rating: Decent
Okay, I've got one of these, as do nearly all the monks in my guild so let me clear up a few things.

First, this will NEVER go to a non-melee unless it's going to rot. I suspect any guild that is capable of taking this mob down will take the same stance.

Second, Statue of Rallos Zek would kill any Dragon in Kunark or the old world and still be at 90 percent health or more.

Just some facts...

Quad for 1050 every round
Flurry attack 8 x 1050 every round
Rampage attack top 6 people on hate list for 1050 every round
450,000 hps or so
Enrages (auto ripostes) at low health
Regenerates 5,000 hps every tick

There are alot of guilds that have attempted him, and many have been completely wiped out with 50 to 60 people in the level 55+ range. The better guilds can kill him with significantly less.

As for which melees get this, this tends to go to Rangers and Monks first, as it's useless for paladins and SKs (no dual wield), bad for rogues (most all of which will have Ragebringer or better if they're in a guild of this level), and crappy for warriors due to lousy taunt from the high delay. Not to mention most warriors are shooting for better weapons at this level such as the Velium blade off the Statue or primal.
RE: Getting facts straight
# Apr 11 2002 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually his max hit is 1100, not 1050. He can quad if he has the hammer, I believe. He has significantly less than 450k HP, probably closer to 200k as stated before. His regen is decidedly NOT 5k per tick, as that would make the mob, for all intents and purposes, unkillable.
RE: Getting facts straight
# Dec 22 2001 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
Ummm well you're facts aren't exactly straight.
he doesn't quad 1025 he doubles it, I have heard rumors that if he has two hammers he will quad or if he has two weapons. If he has SoZ he will be slashing too hehehe. and 450,000 is a little off I have always heard more around 200,000. I could be wrong. Regen 5k. . . no. and hammer, imo, would be 10x better if could be used in secondary. /shrug
RE: Getting facts straight
# Oct 02 2001 at 3:48 AM Rating: Decent
On a complete side note, I was most impressed when CoP on Zeb took down the Statue (last week?) with no casualties. Was in zone with my guild and overheard what was going on....Only lvl 42 myself so obviously I have no personal knowledge of what it took, but sounded awesome nonetheless

Gratz!

Daishan

#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 31 2001 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) defently a monk item 0.0 and look at that DMG this is a major monk item
RE: monk item
# Apr 18 2002 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
Monk/bard/ranger item. Knights can get better ratio weapons off much easier mobs. Warriors wouldn't like this because it doesn't proc Overwhelming Hatred III, and rogues need a piercer in main. Oh, I suppose beastlord too, but i think all their weapon skills except h2h cap at 225.
RE: monk item
# Sep 16 2001 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
Not so fast...

There are better monk weapons out there, especially for primary hand. Besides, at this level, a lot of things weigh nothing, so 0wt doesn't mean much.
RE: monk item
# Sep 27 2001 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
there are about 2 monk weapons better than this... but i'll agree, just because it says weight 0 doesn't rule out other classes... it's a kick *** weapon for any melee, well, apart from pally, SK and rogue, since pally and SK have better weapons anyway, and rogue won't want a 1hb mainhand

Bogan Monhoose
51st monk of bristlebane
RE: monk item
# May 15 2002 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
On just damage deley theres alot more then 2 weapon better then this, but it is a nice weapon none the less.
RE: monk item
# Mar 19 2002 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
Nah 17 25? This isnt a monk item since it can only be used mainhand. I mean at level 57 your damage bonus is 10 so admitably 27 25 is good but there are MUCH better ratios out there for mainhand. I mean just epic fists... 9 16 Are gonna be 19 16 which is a way better ratio then 27 25. For the level of takedown and this being primary only this is rather lame...
Real Stats ..?
# Jul 05 2001 at 2:12 PM Rating: Default
What are the REAL stats ...?

Is it 17/25 or 16/25 like Every other web site has it posted (with picture). If so when did they upgrade it.!

Just trying to clerify it...!
Real Stats ..?
# Jul 05 2001 at 2:11 PM Rating: Default
What are the REAL stats ...?
heh
# Jun 20 2001 at 11:56 AM Rating: Default
With good Haste, you should have no problem Taunting with this baby. I don't.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 05 2001 at 9:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if u arent lvl 60 or at least the same as the poster, u are a n00b.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 01 2001 at 5:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i am not a newb i just have a life
Ranger
# May 14 2001 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
I'd let rangers have this....plenty of damage output and not too fast....

Easy way to cut down ranger taunting is use a slower weapon....

don't be keen to snare either...let a druid or wizard or necro do it standing back from the fight with arms folded....it's hard to get a mob to lay off when you snare him and start carving him up as well....Jolt does help if it sticks though
Thank you Candente Palpablanca
# May 10 2001 at 2:23 AM Rating: Default
I'd like to say thank you to Candente Palpablanca for stating what so many of us would have liked to say for a long time. Those of us that haven't said it don't due to the fact that these n00bs are a complete waste of time. Thank you again.

My addition to your post is this. For all of you that post (not just on this item) that this is a ____ (please insert class) item, you are wrong. This (whatever item) is for the class or person in your guild that your guild leader deems worthy of needing it for the further advancement of the guild. If you aren't in a guild you will never get anything uber and should stop informing people who don't really care that you want it. I myself, being a shaman would not touch a weapon that had dmg 30 delay 2 but did not add wisdom or high resists even if it was shaman only.

Bloxr Fatso
48 Troll shaman of The Nameless

P.S. If you're really bored Candente Palpablanca, please post that under every message board on the site, just tend to read too many message boards that have in fact lowered my intellect greatly.
RE: Thank you Candente Palpablanca
# Jun 30 2001 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
WARNING THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ITEM

Actually you are wrong about not getting anythin uber if you arent in a guild. Did 44 levels with dark elf warrior(yes dark elf) guildless and had full crafted+fbss+2yaks before Kunark. How you ask, dont know really, but most folks I play with regularly say Im a damn good player for a tank. Personally, I just like beating on stuff, a lot.

Garetjax 54 dark elf warrior, Freedom Guard, Povar

RE: Thank you Candente Palpablanca
# Nov 05 2001 at 3:22 PM Rating: Default
Wow ... If your going to lie plz make an effort to try and make it believable. Common ... you had 2 yaks BEFORE Kunark ... Yaks didnt exist before Kunark man. I agree you dont need to be in a Guild ot be uber ... but it helps alot thats for sure.
RE: Thank you Candente Palpablanca
# Sep 03 2003 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
Wow...if you're going to flame plz make an effort to try and make you sound like less of an ***. Common ... you have 2 brain cells BEFORE you posted this ... Im surprised you had that many man. I agree with many that you're a moron ... you should work on that.

dont post if you dont know what the hell you're talking about, ykesha's drop off the ghoul lord in lower guk which is *GASP* on antonica, not kunark, ******** k thx
RE: Thank you Candente Palpablanca
# Feb 07 2002 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
So all the trips to Lower Guk to get Yak's pre Kunark was just a dream?
#Anonymous, Posted: May 08 2001 at 5:56 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Gawd... So many newbies to flame.... so little time..... =(
*sigh*
# May 03 2001 at 4:38 AM Rating: Default
Why do people always talk about haste items being required to make an item good?

Haste helps all weapons +equally+.

*sigh*

Some interesting random facts:
The main-hand damagepertimeunit of the monk's hand at L 60 using his epic fists is a bit higher than a monk using this weapon. (1.875 vs 1.76)

However, just barely.

A ranger/warrior using one of these and an amazing off-hand (I hope they have an amazing offhand) would almost be able to keep up with a monk's epic damage rate, ignoring special attacks.

And that is just insane.

Rogues have the 1 HB cap problem, so they couldn't use this as effectively.

And the Knights have the hitting problem. Ditto.

Just the raw numbers.
WARNING) Before you read this post, read the follow public s
# Apr 29 2001 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
First off, Allakhazam is an excellent site. I must give him and Illia a hand for the amount of information that obtain and maintain for the EQ world at large. Now I must refer to this posting section non-sense. For those of you that post useful and practical information, I commend you. You are amongst the honourable ones that make this game enjoyable (and might I add tolerable sometimes). The majority of people that get on these boards are either new characters (lovingly referred to as 'n00bs') that have no clue what they are talking about, and 50+ characters that think they are god-like....... and also happen to have no clue what they are talking about. My main is a cleric, and I know that I am not going to be using this weapon. That is not my purpose in EQ. I do not wish to quest for all the 'ph4t 13wts' and roll on the red dragonscale against warriors and bards because it makes a 'ph4t BP d00d!' (and you bastards that roll against war/bards for that should die of gonorrhea and burn in fiery hell btw). My purpose is to make my family (guild) stronger and pursue knowledge and enlightenment along the way. After reading these posts of 'Uh huh' and the retort 'Nuh uh', back and forth, I feel that I have actually walked away stupider after reading the post than when I started. So this is your warning, my fellow citizens of Norrath. If you are some decontestable n00b, all the way up to a decontestable 50+, by all means read on and post your padantic messages, all in an effort to make someone else look stupid and get them pissed off. But if you have an ounce of dignity left in your soul, leave the thread alone, I beg of you! Turn back now before all is lost! And if you would like to slam this thread (which I'm not going to point out the glaring contradiction of that), at least be a man (or woman) about it and leave a name and number so I can get back to you later. This Anon garbage makes it too easy for someone act inteligent =)

Candente Palpablanca
Templar in the Temple of Brell
'Well met %t, I shall pray that Brell smiles upon thy soul'
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 24 2001 at 4:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) who says dr00ds aren't fighters? you obviously don't know how half-elves are built! they are meant to be druid-fighters
RE: DR0000000000DZ =)
# Apr 24 2001 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
I would say you are right, you should not have been a druid. stand to to toe with a fighter of the same level some time and see how good a warrior you are. he would likely waste you swinging a rusty weapon, never mind a decent one. sorry man, don't delude yourself into thinking a druid can melee....they cannot. You were cursed with a book for a reason...you cannot swing a weapon if your life depended on it(and it does).
RE: DR0000000000DZ =)
# Apr 24 2001 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
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ahh.. but why would a druid be dumb enough to stand toe to toe with a warrior? never let him get that close


btw... druids cant use this wep.. so it doesnt matter 8P
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 24 2001 at 8:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i cant beleive i just spent all my time reading thoes posts and as for all you guys ******* it seems that almost all of you are wrong with every claim your trying to make... all i gotta say is stfu you damn newbies and play the game :P
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 23 2001 at 12:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) havent you noticed that there be no monks/melees posting on this thread that can actually get this weapon?
RE: havent you noticed
# May 27 2001 at 5:52 PM Rating: Default
I am laughing my assoff but then thats just me allthough id love to have this weapon..sure beats the hell out of my CoT's that my warrior is using but hey i cant have everything can i?
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