Wristguard of Harmony
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Scars of VeliousScholar
16 posts
Dropped off of a fury ghast in Plane of Hate B
Scholar
41 posts
Got one on Fippy in PoHate today - but didnt remember from which mob.
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Posted: Dec 13 2002 at 12:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There are much better items to put on your wrist. The extended range III from KC come to mind, plus lots of other wrist items with focus effects.
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Posted: Dec 17 2002 at 1:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HEy stupid shut up and play ur warrior, its called mana free cast, IE it saves u mana, if ur oom u have this to throw at the mob, its not the best in the world but it works, its the same effect on the es vambs which i have been using since the effect was clickable for me, and now i am lv 55 and i use it on a daily basis, anything thats mana free is worth something it just depends on when u us it, now leave the druid items alone and go play ur warrior
Please Please somebody tell me Beastlords really can't wear these. I will be very upset to know VI didn't want to take the time to make new armor, but even more so to know that Bst's will be able to cast DoD free a spell they never get. Heck they don't even get DoTs what is VI thinking. This just pains me.
no, allakhazam heard something about all druid usable items being beastlord usable as well, it was a mistake, and no beastlords can't use this
These are pretty awesome, not as good as the Thurg/Kael/SS quest bracers, but many many times better than ES arms. However, there is a reason the arms were made the best piece of the set, and that reason being that there are *very* few good arm items for druids. All the quest stuff, even SS and kael, is crap for the arms. So there's a lot of merit in leaving your ES arms on sticking some BD bracers on your wrists (if you play on a pvp server like me), since these only have +2 fire resist. My wisdom is now up to 190 now without any +wis on my wrists, and I think even without +14 wis BP I would be content to keep great resist items on the wrists rather than switch out for these. However, if the SS quest bracer drops in ToV, goodbye BD bracer :)
23 posts
These bracers/ES arms/Quest arms, and Warden Symbol of tunare are god. Your bored? Go to HG hill, pull, right slick your warden symbol, it roots him(effect of grasping roots, unlimited) and right click your Bracers/ES arms. There you go, read a book or something, lol. When done, loot, run somewhere safe, hide, and go afk.
That's what i always do, but i hate leveling... so.. thats why im not in a hurry to get things dead heh
That's what i always do, but i hate leveling... so.. thats why im not in a hurry to get things dead heh
26 posts
All you need is one of these and the ES vambs are gone forever!!! and then something even better can go on the arms.
these rival vermi and other bracers for wis/stats/resist.
I doubt any druid would turn these down unless they were wearing Velious bracer already
these rival vermi and other bracers for wis/stats/resist.
I doubt any druid would turn these down unless they were wearing Velious bracer already
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 14 2001 at 8:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) *yawn* I can cast a Frost and nearly remedd the mana with PotG on during the time it takes to cast ES arms (specced Evo)... The only time I use them is to complement Winged Death when soloing, and while I medd up when the mob is "fleeing" at zero speed when snared and nearly dead. I would never think of wearing these crap vambraces during an important encounter.
23 posts
Crap vambraces? Excuse me?
*laughs* Where have you been, ToV your hole life?
For someone who doesnt have quest armor, these are *excellent* bracers, look at the stats. Most druids around the lvl that are going to hate, either have quest, or runed mithril bracers, 3 str 5 wis... not for a druid who doesnt have 200 wisdom, these are an extra two than those, adding four extra wisdom if you get two of them. PLUS 15 mana. Sure, may not seen much, but if it was wisdom at high level, it'd make the bracer 9 or 10, instead of 8. This is on a bracer, now think about that. Thought about it? Good, so i hope you understand what i'm saying.
Plus, you know, the fact of having one of these, taking off your crap ES vambraces, and putting on something with useful stats.
I'm done
*laughs* Where have you been, ToV your hole life?
For someone who doesnt have quest armor, these are *excellent* bracers, look at the stats. Most druids around the lvl that are going to hate, either have quest, or runed mithril bracers, 3 str 5 wis... not for a druid who doesnt have 200 wisdom, these are an extra two than those, adding four extra wisdom if you get two of them. PLUS 15 mana. Sure, may not seen much, but if it was wisdom at high level, it'd make the bracer 9 or 10, instead of 8. This is on a bracer, now think about that. Thought about it? Good, so i hope you understand what i'm saying.
Plus, you know, the fact of having one of these, taking off your crap ES vambraces, and putting on something with useful stats.
I'm done
Anonymous
These things have 8 wis man!! and if you ditch the crappy ES vambs you can put 4 wis there :P
9 posts
Let's be realistic about this for a sec.
ES Vambraces are obtainable at 45+ (Earlier too, TBH, but 45+ to activate). They have an effect of Drones of Doom.
At 45 you can't even get into the Planes, and to get to second level of Hate, you'll have to be 50+ or damned lucky. Most folks would probably even say 53+ preferable since there are so many 56 and higher mobs up there (I went at 51, and couldn't cast on half the mobs once we moved to second level).
So what's my point? Given the level required to obtain these, and given that I'd sooner wear ES Arms then the Vambraces of Harmony any day, the proc is useless.
NOW, I'm not saying that the idea behind the item is useless, but it's a little like that 5 second to cast level 1 Snare spell on ES Gaunts. It saves you 15 mana, which is virtually nothing.
The error in both those pieces is simply the level of the spell being placed on the item. The ES Gaunts should have the level 29 ENSNARE (15 minute duration as opposed to 3. Mana cost is 35 as opposed to 15, considering the mana cost on some of the other effects, it's actually more appropriate.
Likewise, the Effect on Bracer of Harmony (AND Rowyl's Bracer of Nature, and the Kael quest one and the Skyshrine one...) should be Drifting Death. The level 44 Upgrade to Drones of Doom.
I'm not asking them to make it uber, just make it more level appropriate. On average you have to be about 8 to 10 levels higher to get these then to get the ES Vambraces, so why not give them an effect that is 10 levels higher as well?
Considering the point brought up about the 340 (Note: Drones of Doom is 340 dmg over 60 seconds, not 300) dmg over 1 minute (+10 second cast time) vs 260 dmg DD (+7 second cast time) for the Shamans on a LOWER level armor piece, I think that it's wholly understandable to upgrade to a spell that does 650 dmg over 60 seconds instead.
ES Vambraces are obtainable at 45+ (Earlier too, TBH, but 45+ to activate). They have an effect of Drones of Doom.
At 45 you can't even get into the Planes, and to get to second level of Hate, you'll have to be 50+ or damned lucky. Most folks would probably even say 53+ preferable since there are so many 56 and higher mobs up there (I went at 51, and couldn't cast on half the mobs once we moved to second level).
So what's my point? Given the level required to obtain these, and given that I'd sooner wear ES Arms then the Vambraces of Harmony any day, the proc is useless.
NOW, I'm not saying that the idea behind the item is useless, but it's a little like that 5 second to cast level 1 Snare spell on ES Gaunts. It saves you 15 mana, which is virtually nothing.
The error in both those pieces is simply the level of the spell being placed on the item. The ES Gaunts should have the level 29 ENSNARE (15 minute duration as opposed to 3. Mana cost is 35 as opposed to 15, considering the mana cost on some of the other effects, it's actually more appropriate.
Likewise, the Effect on Bracer of Harmony (AND Rowyl's Bracer of Nature, and the Kael quest one and the Skyshrine one...) should be Drifting Death. The level 44 Upgrade to Drones of Doom.
I'm not asking them to make it uber, just make it more level appropriate. On average you have to be about 8 to 10 levels higher to get these then to get the ES Vambraces, so why not give them an effect that is 10 levels higher as well?
Considering the point brought up about the 340 (Note: Drones of Doom is 340 dmg over 60 seconds, not 300) dmg over 1 minute (+10 second cast time) vs 260 dmg DD (+7 second cast time) for the Shamans on a LOWER level armor piece, I think that it's wholly understandable to upgrade to a spell that does 650 dmg over 60 seconds instead.
Anonymous
if these had drifting death the dot on these would do more mana free dmg than the epic dot.. epic dot= 550dmg per minute for 3 mins
drifting death = 650dmg per minute
drifting death = 650dmg per minute
Anonymous
I dont see why any of you are complaining.. Its 300dmg NO MANA.. THere's nothing wrong with it. If it was more powerful, it wouldn't be balanced. When I am in a group killing 50+ mobs I can usually cast this twice. So that is 600dmg, thats not bad. I also snare, and nuke once and stun if it is a caster. This strategy leaves me with plenth of mana for group spells, heals and Evac. As for the JBB, they sound good but they are supper good Agro bracers :). When I had a shaman in my group he was chain casting the JBB like most shamans do and all I could see was "Shaman_001(I forgot his name) you will not evade me" This spell also allows druids to Solo low lvl dungeons and NOT run out of mana. I could Solo Sol A noprob by just rooting (157dmg) then put this on them and boom they are dead. Its also nice when you are soloing a hard mob and you run out of mana, this will finish them off.
Anonymous
I know druids with their ES vambracers and they LOVE them. When I had my druid and I had ES Vambracers I LOVED them. You can cast Winged death, immolate, breath of ro, then click your bracer/vambracer and stack 4 dots (yes, the post 50 winged death and immolate line stack with the pre 50). 300 extra damage is DAMN nice.
Anonymous
The reason that they give classes mana-free versions of their spells is the fact that it usually won't be unbalancing. Since you already get the spell, there is no problems with the item unbalancing the game.
Unless it's a free casting complete heal. They don't like those...
Unless it's a free casting complete heal. They don't like those...
Anonymous
whyz it det we always get des tings det have drones of doom,
Anonymous
They dare to put a lvl 34 dot when 100% of the druids who CAN get these bracers are using Winged Death and Breath of Ro *sighs*
Anonymous
The hell you talking about? Its like 300 damage for FREE. Cast, root, cast, root? Its like the JBB only a DoT.
15 posts
It only takes about 15 minutes to solo a HG with that plan, assuming nothing else adds, and root dosent break all the time, which it does.
The real problem with these items is the low level proc. If I use this proc while fighting with a group, I am using a much less powerful DOT than I could be if I was casting winged death or higher. So I'm not being as productive or effective as my mana using group members.
As it stands, you cannot tell if a druid is using him bracers (or ES vambraces) or casting a mana usning spell, as others just get the "Fenris begins to cast a spell" msg. I suspect that will change in the future, so that the party or those nearby will get a message saying "Fenris' Wristguard begins to glow" or even "Fenris begins to cast Drones of Doom" or something like that.
I for one would like to know what spells my group mates are casting, esp. if they could be using a more effective spell for the situation.
Of course, the upshot to this deal is that if a Druid is the healer, he can toss a DOT in without losing mana. Of course, at the level needed to obtain this item, if a Druid is your groups healer, you might want to rethink your strategy :)
The real problem with these items is the low level proc. If I use this proc while fighting with a group, I am using a much less powerful DOT than I could be if I was casting winged death or higher. So I'm not being as productive or effective as my mana using group members.
As it stands, you cannot tell if a druid is using him bracers (or ES vambraces) or casting a mana usning spell, as others just get the "Fenris begins to cast a spell" msg. I suspect that will change in the future, so that the party or those nearby will get a message saying "Fenris' Wristguard begins to glow" or even "Fenris begins to cast Drones of Doom" or something like that.
I for one would like to know what spells my group mates are casting, esp. if they could be using a more effective spell for the situation.
Of course, the upshot to this deal is that if a Druid is the healer, he can toss a DOT in without losing mana. Of course, at the level needed to obtain this item, if a Druid is your groups healer, you might want to rethink your strategy :)
That why im rethinking my druid and respecializing in Alteration so that i can become a better healer instead of a soloer
Anonymous
Er. Drones of Doom stacks with winged death.
It's free damage, whichever way you slice it.
It's free damage, whichever way you slice it.
Anonymous
300 free damage in 1 minute, where JBB is 260 free damage in about 7 seconds. yes, free damage, but so little damage so slowly that it usually isnt worth the trouble. Its the same reason why you dont see many 55+ wizards walking around with their solist's icy wand, clicking it over and over rather than casting compitent spells. Yes, free damage, but not efficient unless you're really in a tight.
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