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Need to know if this does drop ; and if so off what ?

Think the is it isn't any good topic is quite beaten to a bloody pulp.

I have cause to use it; and if anyone has had it drop, I would apprechiate knowing what from ?

Thank You.

3 Dex/Agil give 1 AC point, so it seems that this would actually lower AC by about 4 points.

did anyone stop to think that maybe this illustrious piece of fecal matter is for a quest and we just havent found what its for yet?!

I see a lot of debate going on here about the validity of this item. In my most humble opinion, I beleive that to debate about this item from a melee's point of view is unfair. Agility and Dexterity are important stats to melees (of course, most of you are wrong in terms of the uses of said stats. Dexterity affects procs and offensive skill ups, nothing else (from here on, Dexterity will never again be mentioned, as this is basically a stupid stat...it's the Charisma of Dungeons and Dragons). Agility affects defensive skill ups and defensive "procs" i.e. effect of Dodge, Parry, Riposte, etc.) Armor Class lowers the maximum damage that a mob can do to you. So, the question for a melee is simple, "Do I want to lower my average damage in-take via more defensive 'procs', or a lower max damage cap?" If you choose higher AGI, you throw yourself at the mercy of the Random Number Generator, while if you choose higher AC, you regain more stability.

I beleive that from a Caster's point of view, the choice is a simple one. Wear this ring. By level 50, any caster should have maxed out his piddly defensive skills, meanning that AGI is worthless in that arena. Now, considering casters tend to get hit a lot less than a melee, it's more beneficial to raise AC over AGI, since one wants to be assured that they will be taking less damage per hit, and not be praying that they dodge the next blow that comes their way. Simply put, a caster gets hit less, so randomness will not benefit him as much.

From an Enchanter's point of view, we need AC up as high as it can possibly go. The ability to withstand more damage is vital to an Enchanter's crucial role as crowd control. We simply cannot afford to rely on the randomness factor to survive, we need to be able to take the hits, pure and simple. So, in the end, the proof is in the pudding. If people think this earring sucks, great, that just means you'll be able to get it at a cheaper price.

Don't be fooled by people who try to seed disinformation on stats just to get you to buy their stuff. And, just so you aren't taken for an idiot, here is what each stat affects exactly:

Strength- Affects MAXIMUM damage, higher Str, higher possible Max (your actual damage is still dictated by the random number generator, and a higher Str does not mean that you will hit for more consistently, it simply means that you CAN hit for very high amounts). It also affects how much you can carry without having your movement penalized. (Contrary to popular opinion, Strength does not affect Smithing.)

Dexterity- Affects offensive skill ups (1HS, 2HS, etc. etc.). Affects the rate of proccing proportionately (more Dex, more procs). Affects the rate of critical hits (not the amount of damage done) proportionately. (This stat is utterly useless for non-melee characters. It's barely useful for melee characters as is. IMO, neglect Dexterity, unless you just finished buying a Tranquil Staff...you want those 60K put to good use.) (Contrary to popular beleif, Dexterity does not affect any tradeskill usage.)

Agility- Affects defensive skill ups (Dodge, Parry, Riposte, etc.) Affects the rate of defensive procs proportionately (the higher your Agi, the more chance of you dodging, riposting, etc.) Affects AC (higher AGI will add to your AC, yes). (A higher AGI will not grant you faster movement. Although a lower AGI will hinder your movement. There is a cap somewhere, and it's a very low one.)

Stamina- Affects Stamina bar, duh. Adds to HP minutely. (Hey, if you can't get straight HP items, get some Stam. =D) (Worthless stat for casters, worthwhile stat for all melee.)

Charisma- Affects success rate of Bard songs. Is the Tertiary check for Mez and Charm spells (What this means is that there are 3 checks that mob does against Mez and Charm spells. The first check is level vs. level...if you're higher level, you have a high chance of winning this, if you're lower level, you have lower chance of winning. The second check is the spell vs. the mob's MR...different spells have a different MR-breaking rating, usually dependant on the spell's level. The last check is versus Charisma. The higher your Charisma, the more chance of you succeeding this check. Basically, if you fail any of these checks, the spell is resisted. If you pass them all, the spell goes through. Although the Charisma check is usually very easily succeeded, if you plan on using Mez and Charm spells, you don't want to run the risk of having a low Cha and ******** yourself. By the way, every spell in the game undergoes the first 2 checks, MR and Level, but that's obvious.)

Intelligence- Caster mana. Affects tradeskill skill-ups (if it's higher than Wisdom).

Wisdom- Priest mana. Affects tradeskill skill-ups (if it's higher than Int).

(Contrary to popular beleif, Int and Wisdom have no effect whatsoever on the success of making tradeskill items. Combine successes are handled solely by your skill level.)

Those are all the stats and their breakdown. Hope this helps.

ummm neg 35agi meens that equals bascically neg 8AC...(4agi=1ac) wich make this item 10ac neg35 Dex. I would sao this is the piece of **** item ive ever seen. You would be a fool to wear this item


Puffs Greenleaf - 54 Druid
Healzda Sideburnz - 50 Cleric

Therris Thule

Oh yah i wouldnt pay 2cp for this piece of ****, those who pay more or complete dumbasses


Edited, Fri Feb 8 13:56:53 2002

Nobodies actually noticed that The Hole is far from a Level 15 Dungeon, it's in fact a level 50 odd dungeon

The stat system for everquest works in thresholds. For example raising you stamina from 75 to 95 is not as big a deal as raising it from 90 to 100. For a Rogue like myself, as long as I keep my agi and dex above 100 I'm happy, and being that my agi it 137 and dex is 142 unbuffed, I would gladly wear this earing. 18 raw ac may not be that much to a tank, but to a chain class like myself, it's almost like wearing a second breastplate on my EARS. Don't get me wrong -35 agi/dex sux bad, but I definitely think that it's liveable if you have the stats to handle it.

Pith Shadowfoot
Rogue of the 51st Felony (no convictions)

How can you guys even argue about this?!?! this is a no brainer. agility effects how often you are hit AND how quickly you learn some defensive skills. dex:helps determine accuarcy and spell casting capability in combat/helps calculate missle combat skills/helps determine if your interrupted when casting a spell/affects the success of critical hits/affects how quickly you learn weapon skill and rogue skills/affects damage with missl weapons and finally effects how often your weapon procs.
bottome line is unless your an idiot you wouldnt pay 1.5kpp for this wen you can buy something much better for the same price

You have to be an idiot to buy this thing!!! Minus **35** to 2 different stats for 18 ac. this thing isnt worth more than 5pp if you ask me

The thing no-one has failed to mention is the fact that while evryone is comparing 18ac against the -35 agi and dex. The fact is you could put a 6AC earing in instead with other +'s; think about it so you DON'T GAIN 18AC against the losses you REALLY ONLY GAIN 12AC. So the real question is 12 ac worth thge loss because the fact is this earing takes the place of another potential AC and stat enhancing earing. So all of you who say this items AC is worth the loss you just may be right though I have my doubts, the fact is you have been making unfair comparisions. I would like to think this thought would put to rest the endless debate over this item,though I know it won't but atleast maybe it will save another person from shelling out 2k for this thing. But hey I have only 1 charecter a 16 mage i am quite new...but hey think abiout what i've said! ..it may save you some cash?

My god you guys discussed in like 23 posts what dex and agi adn AC factor in like, but the question remains the same, what drops it??!

please help and thanks

As was well stated by the 43 monk who tested dex/agi at level 40, for a melee the loss in number of attacks you get and the increase in attacks landed on you by mobs is not worth the ac gained. If you are a large race tank, you most likely don't have 35 agi to lose above the 75 mark, so there would be substantial ac loss with this item. And Agility does influence a caster's ability to regain concentration--test it with 75 dex versus 100+ dex, you will see. The only time i would have my tanks use this item would be if they had well over 150 agi and dex, and had maxed their defensive and offensive skills, and there was a Shaman in the group. As a high level caster with over 110 agi and dex, I might use it, but would rather add resist or mana gear.

Good hunting all,
Sorcerer of Innoruuk

it causes you to be 'missed' more.

it causes you do 'dodge/riposte/parry/block' less

it causes you to proc less, and do less damage with select non primary function skills.

it might or might not, depending on your total RAW AC from armor and total AGI cause your 'ac' value to improve or decrease. but this value has very little meaning by itself since its a combination of several things.