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Shawl of Protection  

AC: 10
WT: 0.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Armor
Submitted By:Fray
Lucy Entry By:Atarak
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-10 07:21:01
Page Updated:Fri Mar 5th, 2021

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious

Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 46

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This item is found on creatures.

Plane of Fear
NPC Name
a dracoliche

Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Plane of Fear 2.0

Uploaded September 21st, 2022 by halfridge
Updated September 22nd, 2022
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# Jun 03 2001 at 11:12 AM Rating: Default
Queklain, its elitest attitudes like yours that will keep you out of any of my groups. Their is a reason its All/All. If you don't like it, too damn bad.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 31 2001 at 10:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
#REDACTED, Posted: May 31 2001 at 10:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hit enter twice :(
You stupid newbs..
# May 31 2001 at 10:34 PM Rating: Default
First off, I'd like to apologize for such a long post...

It's ALL / ALL... That must mean that we are going to ALL roll for it!
HAH! I doubt ANYONE non-melee would be allowed in on the lotto on most ALL / ALL items! Cloak of Flames??? NO, CASTERS CAN'T ROLL ON THIS. I could say, Hey! I'm a caster! I have to melee and can use the 50hp it gives me! More than a MONK? NO! BUT I STILL WANT IT! Same with the COCW(twin of CoF), It's made for HYBRIDS because of the mana bonus!, H-Y-B-R-I-D-S. Not casters, not pure melee, but HYBRIDS. Why? Because they can make the best out of it and put more in during guild raids(or pick up raids) with the item. because as you know, 100%melee don't use mana.

Fact is, as a monk, I would wear this thing 24/7
I don't care if I found a piece with 11ac and zero weight with 5 to all stats, The resistances keep me from spending lots and lots of money on MORE resist gear. About 4 pieces of it.

BLUE DIAMOND JEWELRY, HEY IT GIVES CASTERS MANA! So they don't get set back that much! They probably get an increase in mana!
AC + Resists are hard to find, Casters DO NOT need ac. Even if you maxed your ac as a caster, it'd end up to be around 700ac and when you reach level 40 mobs, you can no longer take hits to raise defense(or you DIE).

Don't even say monks want this only because it weighs so little! Weight is a nice bonus, but look at the ac. It's probably the second highest shoulder ac in the game for a monk (if my memory is correct).

Everyone else out there that wants this item isn't a monk or warrior can go stick their heads up their ****** It should default to monks then when the monks have it, down the melee line.
Down the PURE melee line, THEN hybrid.
You don't even need hybrids in raids, maybe rangers(because we all love trueshot).
Plus hybrids can use other shoulder pieces to their advantage to get more mana, etc.
Also! Caster classes can get resists up MUCH easier than a monk. And you(casters) know it.

Ever been on a dragon raid? One with a nice AOE?
Yea, I have. As a caster I was FAR FROM AOE RANGE. SOOOOO far that I did NOT need resists up.
Anyone else on a well planned raid should know this too.

And unless the guild leader is a COMPLETE moron, They will usually give the items to whoever can use it most. Person who can use it most? A monk.
Grats to the monks who got one of these.
Anyone else who has one of these that got it when a monk was on the raid without one should go shoot themselves.
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Jan 16 2003 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
I do not agree with you on any part of the original post. Fact is this: resists are everything to every class once you start raiding. It does not matter what class you are, you are NEEDED to live on the raid. Period. And having those high resits will help save your butt. And btw, the vast majority of the time, casters have to be in aoe range to cast, and healers even closer. Caster resist buffs do get dispelled, and quite frequently, hence "junk" buffs, and sometimes those aren't even enough. Imagine this scenerio: Your are on a raid with your guild, and only the monks had resist gear, then an AoE dispel happens. Then another AoE hits, hmm, all casters down except the clerics and maybe shammy's, but they are hurting bad. Another AoE, then everyone appears naked at their bind spot, excpet of course for the monks, who resisted most of it, but are now FD under a nasty dragon who doesn't want to leave where he is. The item is All/All for a reason, because everyone will benifit from having it, and everyone should try to get one. As for the CoF and it twin, well, put the skull shaped wand in my hand, gimme HoS, and I am gonna melee and try to not pull aggro off the MA and SA. And yes, any int caster with that weapon, and a nice haste item, just became a melee class (NOT TANK) capable of doing tons of dmg, and yes, us wizzy's get bored when we are waiting to mana dump, if we can even cast on the mob. Aten Ha Ra has so high resists to everything, we may as well play gems /grin, because only mana burn is effective against him (and that got nerfed). That combo is awesome for PvP too, and no body would ever want to mess with a caster that had both. BTW- the wand procs Ice Comet and is 20/20 +4 cold dmg 1hb.

Edited, Thu Jan 16 06:09:55 2003
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Apr 26 2002 at 10:21 AM Rating: Default
30 posts
Re-read your post; bein' as it's almost a year old now, you've hopefully realized yer errors.

1. Shaman's are casters (accordin' to Verant) My AC's over 800 now, and I'm gunnin' fer 900 hard.

2. The amount of mana I get back from my BD gear doesn't come CLOSE to replacin' what I lose in mana due to WIS, or come close to replacin' the AC I lose from 'em.

3. I've been on many dragon raids. You know how far I was from the AE? I wasn't, I was under the damn dragon, so I could do a little bit of melee damage between heals. If I was out of AE range, chance's are I would be too far away to heal, if the melee's start runnin' around too much. Also, if I'm tryin' to slow/malo the dragon after it's been tashed, I hafta be in melee range. Ditto fer the Wizzies and other folks that are tryin' to nuke it after it's at 50 percent... they have to be in melee range to cast, which puts them well within AE range. What good is it gonna do you as a monk, if you resist everything, but all yer healers are dead to AE, and the nukers are too? None. Yer dead next, sorry fer your luck.

Let me break it down for you, folks: Most monks I know are great people; it seems the majority of monks that post here, however, are crybabies and whiners, that think everything that's 0.0 is for them. Gimme a break; go home and cry to momma, and stop yer infernal whinin'. **YOU** chose to play a monk, deal with it. Work within the limitations of yer class, like the rest of us. If you feel yer gettin' the shaft when it comes to loot, mebbe it's because you whine too much, yer guild needs an updated loot policy, or 'cause you just plain suck.

/rant off
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Aug 27 2001 at 2:50 AM Rating: Default
CoCW should only go to hybrids? Yea, right. That cloak adds AGI and DEX which are nice for ANY melee, and most importantly HASTE. The mana is a nice cherry on top for the hybrids, but nothing that would warrant giving this only to hybrids.
Say a melee and a hybrid have a Hooded Black Cloak, and no other haste items. Haste+other stats would make this cloak AWESOME to either one. +50mana isn't to where a hybrid having it would make a huge difference. It's just a nice bonus.
# Jul 23 2001 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Feign Death Doesn't work when you're getting pelted with spells (they make you seen when you get hit even if you successfully FD). Remember that to the monk next time you send him in to break a room full of casters ;)
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Jun 01 2001 at 12:33 AM Rating: Default
While I agree that this should go to a tank, there are a few flawed points in your post.

Enchanters are casters. As an Enchanter you WILL get hit. It's as simple as that.

"and when you reach level 40 mobs, you can no longer take hits to raise defense(or you DIE)"

Hmm. Then how come when I joined LMH in Lguk at level 38 I was tanking the bok through three resists before i could stick an entrance on it. I'm now 40 and today didn't have too much trouble taking a few hits from whites in skyshrine, with a bard for a healer (56 bard, but still a bard) and a 50 warrior. The three of us held the pool room for about 5 hours. And actually, my defence went up just today, at 138 now. I have 570ac self buffed. Yes you can't sit there and tank non stop to raise defence, but the occasional hit now and then will be sufficient to raise the skill.

You're right, casters should be weeell out of the way of aoes. If they're not there's something seriously wrong. But there are places where you can't get out of the way. Where you need resists. Especially in PvP. And resists are not needed purely for raids. In an xp group the chanter will try to interupt casts and if he gets resisted he may very well be hit with spells, not just aoe.
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Jul 10 2001 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
Hey, if you have someone to heal ya, it's nice to take an occasional hit to get a chance to raise skill.(I have a magi and I can solo KC easy, so I get hit every now and then too)

PvE on almost every server, not pvp.. Need Before Greed, right?
If the caster needs ac, get a meditive blanket(easy TT camp).
After the monks get this, I'd say it would be nice to goto an enchanter, after, they are my best friends and sometimes have to tank a few seconds :)
And remember, caster classes can self buff resists up too. My wizard friend can max his resists up to 300... ALONE.
Can monks do this? no :(
Classes that can wear IGS should get IGS.
The AC is low for a plate class and this IS the best AC on a shoulderpiece for monks.
And AC does NOT matter most of the time for casters because a level 45+ mob is still going to F- you up. Even if you have 10 more ac.
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Mar 16 2002 at 4:14 AM Rating: Default
300 posts
Max resists up to 300, huh?
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Jul 12 2001 at 2:40 AM Rating: Good
With those resists, I will take the relatively light hit on shoulder armor to be able to better resist a spell or effect. As a Ranger, I get hit with alot of spells and processes from the mobs (what am I doing allowing the mob to agro on me? Peeling it off a caster or priest and sometimes a monk who is just about dead cause the mob don't care that you can play possum).

The Shawl is also one of the best pieces of resist gear for Dragon Raids in the game, even after the Velious additions. I don't know of too many other items that give +35 resist/ALL.

Bottom line is, this thing is usable by ALL/ALL. Stop whining because you lost a roll and suck it up. It isn't class or race specific, and because it is a GOOD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, everyone has a need for it for one reason or another. Everyone worked for it, so everyone has the right to wear it proudly.

If you don't like it, you don't have to go on the raid, and you know where the door is.... Don't let it hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!
RE: You stupid newbs..
# Jul 13 2001 at 2:17 AM Rating: Decent
No one, and I mean no one needs resist gear more than a pulling monk. AS a puller on average I get doted at least once, often twice, and sometime three or more times before i get my casting prey back to the group. If he hasn't nuked me already, the first thing that he does is nuke me and then nuke me some more. On tough pulls I can be down to two bubbles of health before I get back to camp, and that assumes fd is not disrupted by the caster. If it is I am dead, but the rest of the group sighs in relief as the godlike spawn walks away.

Anyone who doesn't understand this should try pulling. The reason why uber guilds give this kind of equipment to monks is they appreciate what they have to go through. It's also why they are uber guilds. They give their equipment out primarily to strengthen the team and tbe guild.

All of you people out there who would not immediatly give this to your pulling monk are most likely not part of a high end guild and probably never will be.

Shuyunx Softfist
Monk Guild Officer
Unknown Power
#Anonymous, Posted: May 27 2001 at 2:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what about the bard this would be great item for them since they seem to be an agromagnet.
This fer everyone
# May 25 2001 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
Look on a PvP server like Vallon where I play this item is great fer all. The only ppl saying it should be only fer monks are... selfish monks.
# May 24 2001 at 4:29 AM Rating: Default
this is the best resist gear item i have ever seen hands down anyone disagree plz tell me for any slot too, if you want to give to your monk and he rocks fine but otherwise everyone roll for this peice i mean Velium BD bracers are good but this would beat out 2 of them and then some damn this is very nice
it says all/all bud
# May 20 2001 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
I play a monk, druid, warr, mage, ench, cleric, bard and a shaman. No monk is telling my druid it is a monk item, none of my char will stand down from the roll for an all/all if they don't have one. Oh and about the weight thing, if you have 65str as a caster this is the resist item for you 8). Now you can work on balancing another stat like dex or sta or charis or even agi. for dodge skill. Another thing, sorry but you are going to miss your casters in a dragon raid if they don't survive AoE on account of their low hp total. And if they die, say in the 1st round, sorry but you have no chance either...
This shawl has never obviously been a Monk item.
It is THE item every race and class in EQ post 46th LvL should mark down for resist gear priority. There is NO who comes 1st before the others about it.
RE: it says all/all bud
# May 22 2001 at 2:47 AM Rating: Excellent
Int Caster Alternative, Found in Skyshrine:

Wurm Lord Shawl
AC: +12 Str: +7 Agi: +7 Int: +6 Cha: +6 Magic Resist: +5 Fire Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5 Poison Resist: +5 Disease Resist: +5 HP: +40 Mana: +25
Weight: 0.4
Classes: Wizard Magician Enchanter Necromancer
Races: All Races
Inventory Slot: Shoulder
Velious Required: Yes

Most Tank / Plate / Chain Class alternative, found in the hole.

Imbued Granite Spaulders
AC: +20 Magic Resist: +10 Fire Resist: +10 Cold Resist: +10 Poison Resist: +10 Disease Resist: +10
Weight: 19.4
Classes: Ranger Shaman Cleric Paladin Shadowknight Bard Warrior
Races: Dark Elf Barbarian Erudite Wood Elf High Elf Half Elf Human
Inventory Slot: Shoulder

Monk(and other) Alternative, off Trak.

Poisoned Mantle Submitted by: Xandrea Hopebringer
AC: +15 Str: +7 Sta: +7 Agi: +7 Dex: +7 Poison Resist: -15
Weight: 1.5
Classes: Ranger Shaman Cleric Paladin Shadowknight Bard Monk Rogue Warrior
Races: Iksar Human
Inventory Slot: Shoulder
Kunark Required: Yes

There are many other choices, this is just to give example. Mostly, with an item with rare, you have to ask yourself, would the person loot it use it full time, in addition, how difficult would it be to attain the alternative slot.

I'm a monk and wear a poisoned mantle. There are ench's in my guild with the shoulders frome skyshrine, there are many many embrued wearers in my guild, as well as weight of the gods, etc etc... I probably would have 1st shot at looting this, although I'm not 100% sure i'd accept, however i would eventually like to have one, and would most likely wear it full time. Seems a waste to simply make this resist gear, to be bagged half the time your running around. Also seems a waste to loot this, if you can get something better. The question at hand, is what defines better :P
RE: it says all/all bud
# Jan 16 2003 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
Not the same. I do like what are you are trying to do, but lets face it, those resists don't even compare. The other stat bonuses are nice, but hands down, an all/all item with uber resists should be open rolled by everyone, because frankly, everyone does need resists. Any class need resists more, that is debateable to a very large extent, but one point is clear, anyone will greatly benifit from having this item.
RE: it says all/all bud
# Aug 19 2001 at 9:43 PM Rating: Default
I'm Sorry Mr. Anon Monk, Your'e wrong.

All of those things you list have crap for resists in comparison, in the upper lvls of the game EVERYONE needs to have all resists above 100, this would be something anyone can use at higher lvls. Yes casters can buff up resists, but in any group, you'll be buffed as it is.
RE: it says all/all bud
# Jun 19 2001 at 11:11 AM Rating: Excellent
Monks Monks Monks! Blah Blah Blah! Me say dis, if yous can use dis, roll for it. And trolls and ogres not wear granite shoulders so me tink trolls should get dis, den ogres. =P WHy trolls first? Cause me troll! ANd me sexy green! Anyways, luk at da resists, dis great piece of equiptment for all classes, so me not want hear whining of lil' elf girls no more dat only dis class can roll. Anyone dat do dragon raid would give left ******** for dis, not just monks, not just warriors, everyone! Well unless dem be girl, den dem give yous left nut for it.
monks over rated
# May 17 2001 at 12:27 PM Rating: Default
I pull as a paladin and all classes should have a shot at this item **** the weight make a warrior yea bunch of babies. We all need high resists since when did you become special?
Monks dont always pull other tank classes pull as well when your frail asses get a beat down, and need someone to go fetch ya cause you couldnt take 8 hts in fear...and planes arent the entire game Temple of veeshan etc ya need resists yea its nice for you babies is what I should call ya but also for anyone regardless. think verrant should put on the item all classes but monks
It Just occured to me ...
# May 17 2001 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
When High Resist Gear Shows up with Low Weight and is Monk Usable .... Monks Cry WE ARE PULLERS ....

Monks Pull, I assume, due to FD allowing them to drop adds and pull Single Mobs ....

When Good AC Gear Shows up with Low Weight that is Monk Usable .... Monks Cry FD SUCKS AFTER LEVEL 32 ...

Claiming that they need AC so that they don't die when FD Fails ....

Well .... if FD Sucks ... why are you Pulling? ... so .... give Monks Norrath until 32 ... after that .. give them the shaft ... =P

..................ok ....................

So ... in closing .... =} ......... I am like this site cause occasionally, believe it or not, there is useful info in people's post. However, I don't think people's opinions on who should or should not get this item is useful at all. To be quite honest ... there are WAY to many variables to consider when deciding who/what class an item should go to. Realize that when you say ... X class should get this, you are essentially saying that all monks are the same, all warriors are the same, all magicians are the same etc etc etc.

Frankly, thats plain BS.... if that were the case, no one would play the game anymore.... so please stop giving your opinions on who should get what and who shouldn't lotto ... voice your opinion when the item Drops ... stop posting what you think in hopes that your Guild Leader reads it before that Hate Raid coming up this weekend .................
RE: It Just occured to me ...
# Feb 08 2002 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
just so you know its not that FD sucks after lvl 32 its that your going to get hit alot more and harder after 32. i'm a monk yes would i want this yes will i get it no. not till i get in uber guild name here and somehow make it to main puller so i can get the mobs for you to kill without dieing on the way back. If you want to go pull the dragon for me i wont stop you, the necro haveing to summon your corpse could but not me.
# May 15 2001 at 12:44 PM Rating: Default
75 posts
I don't claim to be familiar the politics of the blue servers for items like this, but on a PvP server (especially Rallos where no-drop is key) you can expect everyone to want a chance on this item. Yes it is an item that (with very few exceptions if any) any character will wear full time regardless of class. Lacking in other stats? Well that's why you have about 20 slots to equip other items into.

Dementieva of Tallon
Not a monk item
# May 07 2001 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
This is an everybody item. I do not think that any particular class will need this much more than another. I guess that this is the most powerful resist item in the game. (that's 175 total resist)
# May 02 2001 at 11:00 PM Rating: Good
A direct quote from verant "all items in the game that have class's listed on them are ment for those class's"

0.0 weight, means that particular stat benifits a monk better then any other class. Can a monk live with even a 5 weight shoulder item? yes, since the last patch lvl 60 monks have highly increased weight alowance.

10ac, means that benifits no one in particular, many items for all melee, have much higher ac, with little to none weight. Some items have huge weight and won't server a monk well at all, but there are a good amount that are better. As for casters AC really does not matter all that much, reguardless of what your local enchanter says, they get hit they die just the same. sure an enchanter in full cloth would die faster, but they can servive.

+35 to all saves, thats really what this comes down to. Who benifits from this stat most? as the item says all/all

Saves do not = pulling gear, saves do not = enchanter mez gear, though they help, what saves do on a high level charecter is this. It helps you not die when you fight a lvl 60+ casting boss mob. Dragons, plane gods, zone boss's etc, that cast. That is what high lvl saves are best to serve. Mostly Aoe's that your guild requires you to have a mimimum of to enter raid. This cloak provides a very much needed boost to all class's.

At level 60 you will do nothing but raid. Most raids are centered around major mobs that usualy aoe, and hit all, not just the puller =P
# Apr 29 2001 at 7:54 AM Rating: Default
10 ac may not be spectacular for warriors or rogues, but it is excellent for a monk. i would want this if it was just 10 ac 0.0 wt, all the saves just boggle my mind, i was in true shock when i saw +35 to all saves. *looks into his crystal ball* i see a lot of fear raids in my future.
Let the monks roll
# Apr 25 2001 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
I am a warrior and since I don't have granite spaulders yet I would wear this any day as a part of my standard gear. AC is on the low side, but considering all the casters in everyday high level hunting it will even up.

Still I would never ask a master looter to be included in the roll. The reason why this should be defaulted to monks is that it's a lot easier for tanks, especially warriors, to get high resists without sacrificing too much of AC, stats etc. The thought of a caster/healer rolling for this is plain ridiculous even though few would turn it down if they got one for free of course.

This shawl is best served on a monk. It will save all non-monks time on raids since they don't have to sit around and wait for the puller's corpse to get summoned and rezzed as much. Worn by the monkey it will increase everybody's phat lewt per minute ratio, so if you're the ML, don't let anyone else but monks roll for this.
RE: Let the monks roll
# Apr 26 2001 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
I agree, monks should have first dibs on these.

But if all monks on raid have them, allow anybody who wants them to roll.

As a wizard if I had these, I couldn't see myself ever removing them, unless they're sitting on my corpse, then I would remove them from my corpse and wear them again... duh.
RE: Let the monks roll
# May 17 2001 at 1:48 PM Rating: Default
Ill have to disagree, just cause ur weight hurts you on a monk doesnt mean we knock other classes out of the roll, heck i play on rallos if someone says monks only roll there is gunna be a riot, all/all means just that other wise woulda said monk only.
Nice item
# Apr 19 2001 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
Its true, a monk can use this item very well.
But they are not the only ones...

What is a Monk (or any other melee class) without a caster... ????
What is a caster without a melee class..???

I thank Verant of making this item NO DROP, so no moron can roll on it and sell it the next moment


ps. why are you all anomymous ??
# Apr 18 2001 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
How funny would it be if all these people were arguing about who should get these (here, even though they're not sitting in front of them on a dead draco) and they turned out to be fake. Or better yet, Verant screwed up the drop and decided *nerf* right out of the game.

Har Har Har
Hate to say it - but this IS a monk item
# Apr 17 2001 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
39 posts
As a caster, I have plenty of int/mana to spare and I would wear this day to day if I were so lucky to get one. BUT, I would not roll on this item until all of the monks on the raid had one. The puller is the one that takes the brunt of the chain casting and beatings on the way back to the army.

This is by far - AC and resist wise - the best item a monk can wear. I would equate this to a caster rolling on an FBSS when the tanks in the group don't have one yet. Sure it is all/all, but why on Norrath would a caster need haste??? This item falls into the need before greed caterory of looting - and monks definitely need this more than any other class.
RE: Hate to say it - but this IS a monk item
# Aug 17 2001 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
Well, first things first. Your thinking is flawed. Everyone can use the resists on this thing. How can a druid evac if she gets hit with a stun that is AoE? How can a wizard that has accidently overnuked run to the tank if he is rooted? Once again, there goes your evac...

When Verant put this one into the game... they did a very nice job on it. I feel the resists alone are Godly to anyone that is wearing it, let alone an additional 10 AC? All All is just that. And I would roll on this item, even if there was a monk present that didn't have one. And I would demand that right... as a wizard.
They are real
# Apr 01 2001 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
I can confirm they are real, seeing how I was there when they dropped. Would you like me to send you screenshot of them still on the corpse? :)

Auelan Lifebringer
Templar of Enshadowed
Brell Serilis
"ALL/ALL" says it all
# Mar 22 2001 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
I am a 54 ranger and would lovingly wear this ALL the time for its AC alone, let alone the resists.

Do I need resists as much as a monk? Yeah, I do. My resists (with planar armour) are around 35 each. I pull in almost every group, whether I am in Sebilis, Karnor's, Velius, you name it.

Of course, I would let the monk take the first one of these, since there isn't alot of planes stuff they can use.
Dibs on the next!!

Talian Stormseeker,
54 Ranger, Zero Hour,
# Mar 30 2001 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
I'm an enchanter and I would kill for these. I do understand that tanks are under fire a lot more than I am, so they need these more than I do, but I'd gladly give up my loam amice for this.

Has anyone confirmed that these are real? Seem pretty uber for (albiet new and improved) a level 60 draco...


PS- Who lets a ranger pull for them in seb?
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 17 2001 at 8:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMFG!!!!
# Mar 17 2001 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
these are going to help out a bit on those raids we all love so much talk about resist gear =-)
# Mar 16 2001 at 3:02 AM Rating: Default

Great. Another item for the ubertwinks on the Player vs Player servers.
# Mar 16 2001 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
erm, this is nodrop, so I don't really see how it could be for a twink... and it DOES drop off a lvl 60 mob. Whoever gets this not only is very lucky but probably deserves it. ;)
# Mar 20 2001 at 10:07 AM Rating: Default
I was going to say....uber twink?

/shoosh n00bi3
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 16 2001 at 12:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Obvious Monk item. If you don't agree...then you don't play a monk.
RE: Obvious
# Mar 16 2001 at 9:03 PM Rating: Default
As much as I hate to have to agree with all the "WOW gotta be for monk items " I would have to agree with it for this toy for 2 reasons, monks end up pullin casters tear ya up fast unless you have trueluy broken resists and well monk HP downright suck. and 2 how many good monk drops do you see on the planes...most all of em ar all all, unless items like this do go to the monks the only real reason for a monk to want to play in the plains is cuz his guild is there...all risk no reward
RE: Obvious
# Mar 16 2001 at 3:35 AM Rating: Good
I play a lvl 52 SK and I dont agree. Whoever you are, you are an idiot. Not saying that its not a great monk item, however all/all is very appropriate, any race/class would benifit from this item in dragon or plane raids. This is an amazing item, and no way in hell would I only let monks roll on it.

Wake up and smell the coffee bud, EQ does not revolve around monks (although of course they are important).
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 20 2001 at 9:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I posted the original 'Obvious' and I ESPECIALLY don't wanna hear from the SK section. You guys have had more drops of planar armor on EVERY raid I've been on that it makes me sick. Usually *IF* we can get an SK in Fear they already have damn near full planar gear from their last raid. AND, look at monk planar gear. Its mostly crap with the exception of a couple pieces. They NEED this more than you because lets face it. If you have a monk and an SK in a group, you're going to send the monk out pulling, and as others have said, a caster will tear a monk up without awesome resistances.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 17 2001 at 1:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Monk item man, face it.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 16 2001 at 11:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /agree
Knock Knock
# Mar 16 2001 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
Umm... Obvious ANYONE item... 35 all resists??? Hell - who in the world wouldn't want that???
# Mar 17 2001 at 10:18 AM Rating: Default
The reason it should be mainly monks rolling on it is because it's the only class that would wear them FULL TIME. AC 10 weight zero is as good as it gets for monks.

For every other class, the shoulders would sit in their bag until they went on a dragon raid.

Sure, tell me a Plate tank would chuck those Granite spaulders in the bank and wear this day to day? Or that a caster would dump those mana int shoulders and sell them to wear these?

For monks, these are not only a day to day wear item, it is also basically an *end* item, ie, this is as good as it gets for shoulder armor. Don't believe me? Check monk wearable shoulders. I know alot of level 55 + monks who still wear ac 6 or ac 8 shoulder pieces.

As for the resists... name one situation outside of raids that most plate tanks and casters are going to need serious uber resists? Monks pull... when you pull, resists = all. Also, monk resist items and base resists suck. Check the best monk armor in the game... most of the resists are non existant.

Now does that mean only monks should roll for this? Depends on your guild... depends on who your players are. The other day, I saw a guild kill Nagafen... Gauntlets of Fiery Might dropped... ac 10 weight zero gauntlets. Not only did they let every class roll, a Ranger with Tolan's gauntlets ended up winning them. Is that fair? I suppose... he was there. But then, it's kinda like a warrior rolling on a Heirophant cloak isn't it? On the other hand, 2 monks quit that guild the next day... they weren't mad about people rolling on the gauntlets... they were upset that people who clearly had better items and better item selection rolled on the gauntlets. I'll guarantee those gauntlets will be on auction inside 2 weeks...

Just my 2 cp...
RE: Duh
# May 17 2001 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
So let me get this strait, my necro isnt supposed to roll on this uber item cause monks are gunna take an ac hit from their weight, dont make a monk if you cant handle the fact that just cause the item says 0 weight that its not gunna just be for monks.
RE: Duh
# Apr 16 2001 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
Take a look at all caster shoulders droppable in the planes. They are not WICKED fantastic at ALL. I would drop a loam encrusted or cryosilk for this thing ANY day. Not only is the AC sick, which can get important when your chanter is getting repeatedly beaten on, but the resists are absolutely sickening. You try throwing on ae mez on uber mobs with no resists... when they turn to eat you, first 1) your ac is helping you not get smacked so hard and second 2) you might be able to resist the instakill spells they cast atcha =P. This would be a permanent item on me.....
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 30 2001 at 7:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG is that you Pavlovs..Thinkness here. and yes this is an END item for us monks
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 20 2001 at 10:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) TOTALLY /agree
RE: Knock Knock
# Mar 16 2001 at 2:25 AM Rating: Good
This is not a flame, but just because an item is 0.0 weight does not make it a monk item. I will say that you guys have it rough. I don't think I could play a monk with the weight limit you have to deal with. So I commend you on your hard work, but don't steal all the 0.0 items :)
RE: Knock Knock
# Apr 25 2001 at 2:48 AM Rating: Default
I understand monks need low weight items, and they do alot of pulling...BUT you have to realize that if it were a "monk item" it would say "Class:MNK" on it. Any tank would love this, and monks arn't always the puller. In fact, most high lvl warriors make better pullers than monks when you arn't on an organized raid. And I play a necro, and I PULL all the time. Same with my enchanter. Anyone who knows the area and knows the mobs can pull if they know what they are doing. Plus 2 high lvl blasts from a mob can rip a caster apart, but the monk would be alive still.... so there is a benefit from items like these for everyone.

Adra Fleshrenderer 51 Heratic
the rathe
"What? A ranger? No, shout for a real tank."
RE: Knock Knock
# Mar 16 2001 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
So I guess i can say that you would agree that an item that is all/all effect: haste is not only for melee classes huh..
RE: Knock Knock
# Mar 17 2001 at 4:41 AM Rating: Default
Hey moron We're talking about resists not Haste, or item weight. EVERYONE wants resists, and I doubt anyone is gonna concede their chance to get the BEST piece of resist gear in the game all because it weighs 0.0 and a monk would enjoy that.

stupid noob
RE: Knock Knock
# Mar 17 2001 at 6:21 PM Rating: Good
First I would like to say that I am NOT a noob....I have been playing the game since it first came out. The point that I was trying to make was that just because an item is all/all and has 0.0wt or has a effect on it (such as haste) does not mean that it is just for melee types. There are plenty of casters out there that would love a few item because the stats on it are better than what we have, but are constantly denied just because people say its for a melee class. I am just tired of people telling me that because an item (such as this with the 0.0wt or others that have haste) are not meant for my class even though its better than what I have.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 20 2001 at 10:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, lets settle this. My main is a 55 druid, and I agree that everyone WANTS resistances, expecially if they fight in velious at all, BUT I would never think of rolling on this until all my guild monks, then warriors, then pallys, then SK's, then rangers, had rolled on it.
RE: Knock Knock
# Mar 25 2001 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
OK guys, the thing that most high end guilds understand, and the day to day players do not, is that when an item comes around that is flat out THE BEST that the class can get, they get more consideration for that item than anyone else, even though the item is all/all. This is the BEST a monk can do for the shoulder slot PERIOD. Monks have low base MR, and only get a slight bonus in FR (up to 39 now at 55, big deal) where as a warrior is up around 100+ MR at the same level with his NORMAL gear. An item like this should be given to the monk in guild that pulls for most of the guild raids, end of story. The better equipped you are GUILD WIDE the stronger you are, and this piece is a HUGE improvement for a monk, more so that any other class. Everyone does need resists, but while the numb butts are medding, monks are out getting chain casted on bringing in YOUR exp, let them have the items to be more effiecient in doing what they do best, pulling.
RE: Knock Knock
# Apr 25 2001 at 1:50 AM Rating: Default
I hate to tell you this is the best a caster can get for shoulders too. The next best is a Wurm Lord Shawl and this thing blows it away hands down.
Wizard of Karana
# Mar 15 2001 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
Wow. Plane of Fear has never looked this good before. All/all is going to require some negotiations though.
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