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Black Pantherskin Tunic  

AC: 11
STR: +10 DEX: +10 STA: +10
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: MNK BST
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)

Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Leather 2
Color (RGB):20, 20, 80
Merchant Value:26 pp 1 gp 6 sp 0 cp
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-18 20:51:36
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious

Average Price: 200pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 1

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Graphic in Pictures
# Mar 30 2005 at 12:13 AM Rating: Default
It would be nice if we could actually see what these Tunics(Black/Haze) look like when worn!!! Dying them to a light color might help. These pictures are poor because the tunics look solid black with no details highlighted.
whats better
# May 23 2003 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
im just wondering what a good upgrade from BPS is i got a lvl 27 monk and thinking bout upgrading to better gear i know this stuff is good but i want better any ideas??????

Aordan Swiftkill
monk of the 27th season
Spirits of Storm
luclin server
The most important thing. . .
# Feb 01 2003 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
71 posts
I just seriously started looking for monk armor (I have a level 10 Iksar monk, I gave up on his newbie quest because it's damn near impossible) and have to say that this looks like the ultimate monk armor. It has decent AC (not spectacular, but decent) terriffic stat buffs, and the most important thing to a monk: LOW WEIGHT. Any other halfway good armor will wiegh a pound or more, which will serioulsy drop your natural AC once your fully in it. I'd give my right arm for a suit of this or Acrylia Studded or Reinforced.
RE: The most important thing. . .
# Mar 03 2003 at 11:01 PM Rating: Default
I did some calculating and with all BP armor you would get +22AGI and +82AC. Now u said the Ac may only be decent, but AGI also affects your AC(beats the hell out of me why). What I like most about this armor is the DEX. With all of this stuff you get +46 DEX, which is really nice especially if ur twinking a monk. The only flaw in this armor is its cost, and either way of getting this wether it is buying it(which will cost you a Sh*t-load of pp, or you try to make it yourself, which requires a very high lv in tailoring.
RE: The most important thing. . .
# Apr 28 2003 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
"but AGI also affects your AC(beats the hell out of me why)"

Armor Class determines how much you get hit. In reality, if you're very agile, you will be able to dodge and move quickly and easily, thus avoiding hits. Make sense?
# Nov 26 2002 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
85 posts
It says the item (actually, all pantherskin) was edited. What changed?
RE: changed?
# Nov 26 2002 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
1,088 posts
Edited to include Beastlords as a class able to equip.
So many opinions
# Oct 03 2002 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
This item is nice. The stats are well rounded, AC a little low but other stats make up for that. I've read this column all the way down and must say that I believe everyone is right to an extint. Monks are pullers and assisters, when you get an add stomping your cleric and there is no enchanter you will be the one chasing that mob down and he will turn on you, thus need more AC. In a good group that mob will be mezzed or rooted and you can go to work on dmg dealing thus higher agi, str, dex. So their are allot of opinions on what stats you need but the best monk is the well rounded monk not to high or low in any level. Not to mention as you progress so do the buffs you will be getting from other players, your best friends should be first a shamana then a cleric. Just my 2c.
Gotta know ppl
# May 02 2002 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
Well i decided not to do this, until i discovered a friend who has a tailoring skill of about 245, and is willing to do my pantherskin armor if i get the gear. I sayed okay, ill camp panthers while foraging yew leaves in WL. Of course, i knew the leaves were rare so i shouted once and a while to buy leaves, and as chance had it, someone sent me a tell saying he had a stack of it. Bonings and skin were easy to get, so now i got plenty of pantherskin armor to make. You just have to know people, and test your luck from time to time, hehehe.
My 2 cents
Btw to make it you need:
1 Black pantherskin (off panthers in WL?
2 Yew leaf tannin (rare forage in WL + water)
3 Velium Bonings (Small brick of velium + file + frost temper at rogue guild in Thurg, 30p each)
4 The pattern of item
velium boning?
# Apr 29 2002 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
how and where do u get velium bonig (name of mob,zone,lvl, and rareness of drop (how many times it drops an hour)) thx, ohh and if merchants sell it where?
RE: velium boning?
# Apr 29 2002 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
LOL, nope try again. If you want this you will need a Black Pantherskin, 1 Yew Leaf Tannin (Made by brewing a ULTRA RARE ground spawn Yew Leaf and water with skill over 68), a tunic pattern, and 4 Velium Bonings. EACH boning is made by combining a small Brick of Velium with a vile and Coldain Velium Temper (30pp EACH) in a forge with skill of over 150! Once you have everything to even ATTEMPT one combine, it must be combined in a Coldane Tanning Kit and you need a skill over over 200 to even get a 50/50 shot, 250 skill still fails. LOL, have fun!
# Apr 10 2002 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
Well after reading these posts I realize 90% of them are posts by people who ether dont play a Monk or only have a lvl 20 twink....
BP armor still rivals even the new Acrilia, ya ac wise Acrilia is better but thats not gona help you. This is high lvl armor for a reason, there are no resists on it, ever hear of Blue Diamond armor? any half decent 50+ monk has at least BD Earings and Bracers in his Tink bag, so forget resists. AC well butt nakked my AC is over 900, with full panther its 1100, not bad at 54 but my HP and yes that is VERRY important is extreemly high due to the +STA, and +HP. The more AC and HP you have the longer you have to live to get the pull compleeted. Anyone who thinks otherwise should delete there Monk Twink and make a Warrior.
So whys it decent, most pices have all the needed stats for a Monk first AC, second HP/STA, Third STR, and for those Procs like SoS T Staff etc DEX. All in all this armor is awesom unless you got ToV Thurg or PoA ide sugguest 50+ keep there eyes open for BP Armor.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 24 2002 at 2:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 77ac 41 str 34 sta 46 dex 22 a nut shell
RE: full suit
# Jul 26 2002 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
I'd like to make a small correction(think you left out other wristband)here and add a bit to this conversation. First off, here are the total stats of each for comparison....

BP Acrylia
Ac 89 94
Str 46 47
Dex 46 0
Sta 33 38
Wis 0 20
Agi 22 0
H.P. 85 24
Sv.M 0 9
Wt. 4.7 5.6

By looking at the figures it is easy to see that Acrylia is better for Bst. than it is for monks. The wisdom and save magic is give away. The Panther skin on the other hand truly has the monk in mind. High dex, and agi along with hp and ac.
To just go out and buy it, it can be expensive, but having a fellow guildie do it for you can be very reasonable in cost. I am going to do all i can to get some of this gear. I already have some items that are better as far as i'm concerned, but for the most part, this is great monk gear.
RE: full suit
# Sep 19 2002 at 3:46 AM Rating: Decent
That would be the reason that BP is for monks.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2002 at 5:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Does anyone now what i should give my new monk stead of this?? i am going to have a full suit of wu but that will leave me with alot of money left over. if it drops even better.if it needs to be tailored i can manage that with y guild plz include names nat abbreviattions..what would be best to twink a monk with about 1000 pp,plz dont count the tailoing cost beacause i have a tailor.Also if anyone knows a good monk item that drops easy for a lvl 40 or so plz tell me
# Jan 25 2002 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
where do you get the yew leaves?
RE: Leaves
# Nov 26 2002 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
78 posts
Rare forage and Rare ground spawn... get it while you're doing the panthers
# Nov 17 2001 at 6:30 AM Rating: Default
People, you nuts...monk past 45 think resists!!!
your AC wont save you, your Agi wont save you, only your FD and your tanks will save you...but only if u can get back to the damn tank, and at 50+ u better have MR buddie or your a dead monk.
this stuff sux unless you can make it yourself, or want it for looks, but if u ask me iceicle tunic looks better) just my opinion...

Tumtuk Kyckabut
47lvl human Monk
Mith Marr
RE: Resists
# Jul 26 2002 at 7:47 AM Rating: Default
DUH! A monk needs resists.... Dont you think a monk has a few BD bracers, earrings in his inventory??? They dont NEED a tunic with resists!

Thats all Later
Monk Armours
# Aug 28 2001 at 10:28 AM Rating: Default
Let's set the record straight here. Playing a Monk is all about not getting hit, we are not tanks, we pull, plain and simple.

I've seen Monks wear Cured Silk until well into there 30's with no trouble at all, because they don't try to play there Monk like a Warrior.

Wu's is obviously considered the standard armour for Monk's under 20, or even under 30, if you are not talking twinks of course.

Since the weight change I see Panterskin as the replacement for my Wu, just as I saw Wu's as the replacement for my Cured.

The last point is this is tailored armour, that looks good, and has decent stats. I would feel good wearing this knowing I had made it.
Not just for monks anymore...
# Aug 16 2001 at 10:47 PM Rating: Good
119 posts
With the latest patch, black pantherskin armor has become usable by Vah Shir Beastlords. Very interesting...
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 02 2001 at 9:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Unless you are an idiot of a monk, an solo all the time, then you would know that monks don't get hit that often, WE ARE NOT TANKS, we are damage dealers, now about the Ac thing, WE DON'T NEED HIGH AC! We deal damage, the warriors/shadowknights/Paladins TAKE dmg...we just let them get beat up while we beat on the mob, and if you get too much aggro, you stop, feign, an get back up an start dealing dmg again, Now if you are a smart monk you will go for stats instead of AC/Hp, For monks, Ac/hp is NOT's near useless, as we are not tanks and are not ment to take dmg, we have every skill imaginable to avoid dmg...hmm...i wonder why...maybe we aren't ment to have high ac/hp to take the dmg for some odd reason...
RE: Monk stats
# Aug 15 2001 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
ummm this is from a warriors perspective, but most of the monks i meet in the dl (im only lvl 47) are twinked out through the nose and taunting anything off them is a lesson in futility. Any monk that disregards ac is a dead monk. specially if u bet on the the notion that some warrior with no haste belt and big long delay weapons is gonna be able to taunt a mob off u in the heat of the battle. maybe at 55+ when all the wars have lammy's we might be able to get mobs off ya but till then, keep your ac up.

Fendrish Missesalot
47 Barb Warrior
RE: Monk stats
# Jun 04 2002 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
ok use sneak war gets aggro you sneak get up and start attacking there is a good chance you wont re aggro even if your superoutdamaging a warrior just something to think about...
RE: Monk stats
# Apr 02 2002 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
FD will get agro off the monk...but not when you are in the endgame...mobs reagro after 40...somethin to think about
RE: Monk stats
# Oct 03 2001 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
Monk AC rivals Warrior AC untill Plane armor due to the AC bonus.

49th lvl monk
921 AC
armor: Wu's, Panter, Fungi tunic.

Note: I see a lot of monks running around with Serpentine bracers. This is a very bad idea. the stats are nice but severly lackin AC (ac:1)
Also!! Orc fang earrings or cougar claw earrings are a great little boost to AC.

Always watch yer weight, this will seriously hinder AC. (15+1/10 lvls or something like that)

Monks are not build for tanking, but for a few levels in the high 40s and low 50s before the warrios get plane armor we truly shine. :)

Just my 2 CPs.
RE: Monk stats
# Sep 06 2001 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
UMMMM it's called Feign Death (or FD) and that WILL get all aggro off the monk. Any monk that has put any time in skills should be able to FD and if they can't because they were to busy twinking and not thinking then they do desire to learn the hard way.

"You will die, do to your lack of skill"
RE: Monk stats
# Nov 25 2002 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
I play a 54th level Monk. Fd is WONDERFUL. I maxed the skill out 5 minutes after I dinged 39. However, there are TWO things you either DON'T know about or that you are overlooking. One, in the high end game, when you FD then stand back up, you WILL reaggro the MoB. This happens on MoBs higher then level 36. The only way to remove the aggro is to FD, then wait until the other Melee's have beat on the mob enought that they have outdamaged you and you are now lower on the hate list.
Two, FD will make you lie down on the groung and play dead 99 percent of the time. Yet, even with the skill maxed out I have had situations where I have failed my FD check 6 or 7 times in a row. Also, any spells that hit you after you FD will cause FD to break. So when you have 3 Froggie casters in Sebillis chain nuking you, FD don't mean diddly. You better have your resists up or you are GOING to die. And let me tell you something about resists. Resists are like stats, you are not going to max them out on four or five items. You need to make sure that it is spread out amongst ALL your gear. It's great to carry around two BD earrings for resists, but what do you do when you are pulling Estrella in Kedge Keep and your EB item is a Fishbone Earing? Switch to the BD everytime she casts a spell???? No. So make sure that you spread the resists around to as much gear as you can. If anyone wants to make a comparison of equipment, don't compare the Panther armor to Acrylia, try compariong it Grey Flesh. Then you will see a good mix of ac/hp and stats. Grey Flesh Tunic, Hardened Grey Flesh Arms, Grey Flesh Leggings, Footpads of the Tiger, Shimmering Terror Hide Cloak, Clattering BOne Necklace, Shackle of Tynn, Wristband of the Broodling, Shissar Scaled Headband and Silver Shiverback Hide Sash. Throw in the Epic for gloves and you have a NICE set of Base Armor to work off of.
Mission: Impossible Yew
# Jul 21 2001 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
I went to Wakening, and killed panthers for 3 hours. I now have a few black panther skins and one haze panther skin. Yew leaves are sold for 100p a piece on my server. I hung out for a while with the intention of finding some but got very bored with that. The tough part about this is that while 2 of the 3 components are easy to find, yew leaves are nearly impossible to scrounge up. I bought them and saved myself the trouble. The boning is easy to make. I don't tailor, but I have a grandmaster tailor in my guild. All in all it was pretty easy to get everything I needed. It was most definitely time consuming, but this armor is really pretty decent. The ac is... quite honestly not spectacular. The fact that it doesn't have resists is kind of disappointing too. But with the other stats you get from the armor, maybe you'll trade in your jewelry for something with better resists. /shrug
The weight is far more monk-friendly now... and it certainly looks pretty cool.

Level 50 Monk's Opinion: Part 2
# Jul 11 2001 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
28 posts
Ok, I am going to ammend my earlier scathing remarks about this item. In a recent patch, the weight was reduced to 0.5. That makes this item a decent (but not great), wearable item. The price it sells for (5000 pp) is a bit extreme though. I do not mean that tailors should not sell it for that. This item is not trivial at 230 skill. I am not sure if it ever trivials. The ingredients are hard to come by I am told. What I am trying to say is that if you have 5000 pp, you would probably be better off getting a chest armor ALMOST as good as this one (like the CCS) for a great deal less money or even for free (if you camp it your self) and spend your money on something else. As another person pointed out, this item's weak spot is that it has no resists. Except for weapons, every upgrade I make now includes resists. Also, with the recent weight reductions of the pantherskin items, the demand for them will increase. This will mean that the items required to make this item will become scarcer and the price will increase accordingly making it even less worthwhile to obtain.

Level 50 Monk's Opinion
# Jul 10 2001 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
28 posts
Ok, this item is definitely NOT worth getting. If it was given to me for free, I MIGHT wear it to replace my ROTWF when I get my CF's. More than likely I would wear that CCS I have stashed in the bank. Ninety-five percent of the time, if a piece of armor is monk only, it is inferior to the ALL/ALL item we usually wear in that slot.

As to those who THINK they know what a monk's role in combat is and what type of equipment a monk should wear, think again. A monk has two major goals with his equipment and these are pretty much the same goals that all other melee types have. Those goals are first (and most importantly) survival, and secondly damage output.


The most important stat is AC, followed closely by resistances and HP/Stamina. The next most important stat after these is agility which affects our odds of successfully using our defensive skills. The degree to which agility affects us is a matter of debate. The much vaunted stat of strength is nice to have but has very little effect on damage output unless you have a really, really high strength. I would rather have a 10 AC item than a 6 AC item with 4 strength any day of the week. Unless you are a rogue, dex is a joke. It's only use for a monk is to make weapons proc more and even then its effect is minimal. Some people point out that a monk has AC comparable to any other tank, but there is a deception in that AC. Verant has admitted that AC is a combination of two numbers. One number is damage avoidance and the other is damage reduction. A monk with an AC of 1000 might have 750 points of damage avoidance and 250 points of damage reduction. A warrior with an AC of 1000 might have 300 points of damage avoidance and 700 points of damage reduction. At higher levels, particularly if a foe cons red, the monk will get hit for maximum damage just as if he were sitting down. I am sure you casters out there know what I am talking about. Basically, if you want to know what your damage avoidance AC is, remove all your equipment and see what your AC is. This AC value is based on your Defense skill, your class, and maybe your agility (not sure on that last one.) A naked level 50 monk usually has about 750 AC naked. My level 50 monk has 910 AC fully equipped. That means that only about 160 points of my AC are in the damage reduction category. Casters can beat that.

Also important to survival is how much a monk aggros a creature. It is very difficult for warriors, etc. to keep aggro off of a monk of about their level. Yes, we can stop attacking, back off and FD to lose aggro, BUT that kind of defeats the purpose of having a monk along by greatly reducing our total damage for a fight. Monks sometimes deliberately reduce their fighting effectiveness just so they will aggro less and give the tank a chance to keep aggro.


Some argue that a monk should concentrate completely on equipment that makes him do more damage, and charge into the fray like a berserker doing unholy amounts of damage, and then die like a man. This is fine if you are trying to kill Trakkanon or something, but for day to day playing it is ridiculous. Even if I had my own pet 60th level cleric to give me a high level rez every time I died, I would still get negative xp every day using this philosophy.

I have noticed that the people praising this item tend to fall into one of two categories. One category is low-level monks who simply don't know any better. The other is non-monks. Now why would a non-monk even care about this item? I can think of only one reason that a non-monk would even look at this item and that is if they are a tailor who wants to make it and sell it. Now it becomes obvious why non-monks make postings here in praise of this item. No doubt when they were raising their tailoring skill, they saw the price-tag on this baby and thought they could make a killing. Then, they finally make one and NOBODY wants to buy it. So what do they do? They come here and make postings that praise this item as incredibly nice to have and well worth the cost. They denounce the experienced monks who know it is of little practical value despite the difficulty involved in making it as if they knew more about the class than people who have been playing a monk for a year or longer. Well, forget it. It won't work. Any monk that has enough money to afford this has enough experience to know not to buy it. You might fool a power-levelled twink, but you won't fool anybody else.

Level 50 Monk
Order of the Scattered Winds
RE: Level 50 Monk's Opinion
# Aug 08 2001 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
119 posts
You're forgetting that not everyone will be buying these outright. I agree it's not worth nearly the 14k currently listed as the the average price if you want a functional piece of armor. It still shouldn't be sold for significantly lower (5k-7k might be appropriate, but no less) due to the difficulty of making one--some people with lots of money to spend want a unique look, and once money's no object there's something to be said for that. Who said the tunic would necessarily be used in battle?

I made one for myself mostly for the tailoring practice. I spent a full day collecting components for 13 attempts plus about 1400pp in tempers, and the resulting tunic is well worth my effort. Another person is providing components hoping I'll succeed in making one for him too.

I'm surprised you'd think of using a crystal covered shroud over this except when the sv cold+10 on the shroud matters (and admittedly that is nice on occasion) or when you want the wis+4 or int+4 for trade skills. The sta+10 more than makes up for a loss of 1 AC--it gives me about 30 hp now, and should give 40hp at level 60 if for some reason I haven't replaced it by then. Sta gear, I'm noticing, isn't easy to find, and many people recommend putting a lot of points into sta at creation. The extra str and dex are nice bonuses especially if you do have a weapon whose proc is helpful (like a proc that stuns), even though the effect is small. If weight is a consideration, this tunic wins again with a weight of 0.5 instead of 1.0.
(Edit: Somehow I missed your second post I realize you were talking about the tunic when it weighed 2.5. With the old weight I suppose I'd consider the shroud over the tunic...)

Also, I don't think that all of a monk's natural AC is avoidance...I think it's a mix of the two that favors avoidance. My druid fully equipped gets hit roughly as hard as my monk without equipment if you remove blocks/dodges/ripostes, so the natural AC can't be _all_ avoidance.

Aggro management is very important of course, but more or less irrelevant to this armor...switching to 2hb and waiting a couple seconds before engaging a creature will do far more than changing your equipment. You said yourself that the effect of str and dex is small...
this armor
# Jun 12 2001 at 6:59 AM Rating: Default
Let me throw in a little item alot of you guys seem to be missing. Yeah the Stats are decent. The weight Sucks. It has some AC. but.....

And these are big Buts.....

it has a high weight and NO RESIST!. Monks are pullers. We are not tanks. We do damage and split mobs. The one thing that kills more monks when splitting mobs is not being hit on but the damn casters. Consider your resists when looking at tyour total armor package.

RE: this armor
# Aug 07 2001 at 10:39 PM Rating: Default
Ummmm wt is 0.4
#Anonymous, Posted: May 24 2001 at 1:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I buy it!! on Fennin ro
# May 20 2001 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
Only thing I wanna know is where is the velious plate and chain recipes for smithing? this new tailored stuff is awesome, need some stuff for pure casters and plate wearers to.

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