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Slot: HANDS
AC: 30
STR: +9 WIS: +9 INT: +9 HP: +75 MANA: +75 ENDUR: +75
SV FIRE: +9 SV DISEASE: +9 SV COLD: +9 SV MAGIC: +9 SV POISON: +9
Haste: +41%
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)

Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Plate 2
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Color (RGB):70, 70, 70
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Mavik
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2022-01-10 07:58:16
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious


Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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This item is the result of a quest.
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Quest Name
Yelinak's Head


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Zone Name
Kael Drakkel
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MQ'd?
# Feb 10 2005 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone know if these can be MQ'd? Picked this head up on a raid awhile back because they were rotting, so I figured why not. I've already got Raex's Gauntlets though (http://allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17930) and 41% from my bracer... Just thinking I could get some plat out of this head or maybe help a guildy out... Anybody tried it before?
RE: MQ'd?
# Mar 25 2005 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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514 posts
No. That's why it was rotting.

Once the person with the head has decent enough faction
they hand in one item, the head, to get the gaunts.
How can you possibly MQ that?
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~ Lyricist of <Mystic Coercion> on Erollisi Marr
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# Mar 20 2004 at 3:00 AM Rating: Default
I got the head a few nights ago on a raid, no one ayed for it. Now to try and dig my Tormax faction i just kos maxed out of the hole. Only 5k coldain/dragons to kill, weee

Edited, Sat Mar 20 02:59:05 2004
clicky haste
# Feb 29 2004 at 7:20 PM Rating: Default
casters realm had this listed as clicky haste. can someone list some of the better clicky haste items in the game? eyepatch of plunder keeps getting recomended but can you get better than 20% clicky?
RE: clicky haste
# Apr 09 2004 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
The POP ornate gloves for the Monk are 40% haste (atleast thats what someone told me), right click , You can pick the pattern in the Baz for 30kish.

I do not know if its 40%, but I do know that I hit WAY WAY faster with them, than without them :)
RE: clicky haste
# Dec 16 2005 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
n/a

Edited, Jul 25th 2008 1:23pm by haecz
Haste %
# Jan 08 2004 at 6:23 PM Rating: Default
what is the HASTE %?!
RE: Haste %
# Jan 08 2004 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
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6,998 posts
41%, as it states under the Haste effect.
At last
# Jan 04 2004 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
49 posts
FINALLY ...

Getting Yeli's head was the easy part....
Had to spend a week getting Tormax faction to warmly.. boring as hell, killed thousands of those little Coldain buggers ...

Then, I had to wait 4 weeks before i finally managed to hand the head into Tormax, due to guilds taking him out or server resets...

But it was all worth it... These gauntlets are worth every bit of frustration that a lot of peeps who want will have to go through... Theres not much better untill you get elementally flagged.

Now all i got to do is change faction back to Coldain so i can do the ring quest.
Smiley: cry
Faction change?
# Oct 28 2003 at 7:23 PM Rating: Excellent
6 posts
I did this with a faction of amiable (10/24/03)about 8 heads into it. Tormax ate the head. I know they nerfed the faction so it was harder to change but it seems they also upped the needed faction. I would suggest ally or close to be safe. It may be a diety/class issue but I couldn't say. Do the extra faction to be safe is my advice.
Opinion
# Aug 14 2003 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
I personally would rather have these gloves over Arantir's Gloves of Discovery any given day. That may chance once I obtain SoS though.
gaunts..
# Jul 24 2003 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
Honestly by the time you can get this haste item it is great for any class.... being a rogue i want these so i can get rid of my epic i have a item i could use in offhand that will up my dps but i need the haste form epic and have better then epic in primary so yes these are good for any class

Edited, Thu Jul 24 22:11:38 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 23 2003 at 11:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its a pure pally item for the haste and stats, rangers get epic haste, rogues epic haste, warriors well maybe warriors paladins first
RE: pally
# Aug 30 2003 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
Why not for SKs and beastlords and rangers too? stats just as nice for them as pallys. And if your gonna say its good for warriors too, you'd probibly notice its very nice for rogues, and monks. Truely, a very nice item for any melee.

Edited, Sat Aug 30 01:13:38 2003
RE: pally
# Oct 02 2003 at 6:05 AM Rating: Default
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as noted Rogues / monks / rangers / beastlords all get epic haste while Sk's and Pallys have god awfull epics with a mediocre effect and POOR damage/delay.

on an unrelated topic something still needs to be done about the epics as they are no longer particulaly good in relation to the other item you can get out there especially the melee ones <Pally and Sk are they worst> and LDoN did nothing to adress this issue

Jarkeld hammerhiem
Knight of the 55th sphere
Druzzil Ro server
RE: pally
# Oct 24 2003 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
If you are still gauging classes by their epics, you a severly outdated my friend. The attitude that rangers/rouges/bl/monks shouldn't get haste items because of their epics is precisely the reason the cap out on DPS. Being able to shed epics is what moves these classes into the upper echelon of DPS.

Rogues being able to get rid of ragebringer gives them great DPS. Rangers being able to get rid of swiftwind and go back to being a meleer from archery means no more inconsistent dps due to arrow poofs. Monks have some decent H2H weapons that allow them to do some serious triple attacks. BL, well, BL get to get rid of those ugly no-fitting claws ;p

All of these classes are DPS classes, forcing them to use equipment from 4 expensions ago, is pretty shallow-minded and very limiting for a guild.

The priority tank class for haste has to be Warriors above SK's and Pally's. I've seen pally's with 28% haste hold agro perfectly on raids, but a warrior with 36% haste and a BoC + Fleshgrinder having to fight the mobs 1-on-1 for a considerable amount of time to be able to hold agro after the rest of the raid joins in.

And what the hell are you talking about on Poor damage/delay? All of the epics suck for damage/delay by post SoL standards ;p And the cleric epic is about the only effect that still has any value.
RE: pally
# Oct 23 2003 at 7:42 AM Rating: Default
Sure those classes get epic hastes , But its on a weapon. I am a 65 Ranger , weilding Swiftwind in secondary and Either Great Blade of Storms (BoT) or Tendonslicer (ssra). Now i could do more DPS with weilding both those weapons than i would with epic , as epic ratio is not the best. so Far i have not been able to get yeli's head but it is one item i am now aiming for. Its good for all Melee classes. but i dont think you should say SK /paladin / warrior before any other melee just because there epics dont have haste
RE: pally
# Nov 19 2003 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone who says an all/all item is for a specific class is retarded, it is all/all for a reason GET OVER IT, a shaman would get just as much use out of these as a warrior or a monk. If a mage wanted them WHO CARES as long as they have the faction and can get the item they will get a use out of these gloves.
omg i hate this
# Jul 02 2003 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
Why does everyone post with oh this is for this class, oh that class doesnt have good use for this item, blah blah blah! These guants are good for ANY class! They have int and wis, STR , Hp, mana resists, everything every class needs! I think its just an added bonus that this has haste. That dosent make it just a melee item though. I see this as a great item for anyone who can get it, and i feel bad for those people who sit there and flame stuff like this, its just not cool
omg i hate this
# Jul 02 2003 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
sorry i double posted! =(

Edited, Wed Jul 2 18:02:33 2003
RE: omg i hate this
# Jul 22 2003 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
well, actually not for a bard, it dosnt have charisma adds, though i would love to have them
Not just for melees
# Jun 26 2003 at 9:32 PM Rating: Default
I am a 62 druid and just won Yelinak's head on 25 June 2003. Makes me one happy druid =)

Eldrynn Kindbud
Heart of Fenris
Erollisi Marr
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 10 2003 at 2:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why the hell would a druid want these? So they can raise their 1hs skill? If any druid in my guild asked me for these I would slap them. And druids suck at everything they could be good at too...(porting to raids, healing group, dps, all things they suck at).
RE: Not just for melees
# Jul 01 2003 at 10:09 AM Rating: Default
yeah, if you want to be a huge *** prick and take away one of the best haste items in the game from the melee's, sure, any class can use these.
RE: Not just for melees
# Aug 03 2003 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
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God you two must have been raised in a school for the retarded!!! Did it ever occur to you that if a druid had these it was because either no one else needed them, that they have seriously nice AC for a leather class, lots of mana extremely good wis and lovely resists.

And the post about they suck at everything that they can do, I seriously would give you a slapping about if you were on veeshan. Druids are possibly one of the best classes in the game and also the best soloers. At 51 who else can solo in PoN?????? Druids, Wizzies, Bards and possibly shammies. At 60's who can solo in PoV, Nadox and other high level zones??? Exactly the same list mate!! With the addition of BL's in some.

IMHO it is you who is being a ''huge *** prick'', it says all/all hence it is open to everyone. Yes I would love to get these as a BL before a pure caster and I expect I would, but I would not winge like a kid with a skinned knee that didn't get the f*****g lollipop you ...........

Edited, Sun Aug 3 11:18:11 2003
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Madho
Novocane
Poldarn
RE: Not just for melees
# Sep 19 2003 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
Necros can, hell at 60 as an SK I was able to solo in PoV. It's really more a matter skill of the player then class.

As for who these gauntlets are best for. There all/all, that who there best for. Anyone willing to do the work required to complete the quest and who has earned whatever level of merit your guild uses to award loot on. If your in a guild capeable of killing Yelinak, then your guild is also killing other stuff that can result in 41% haste items.

Sithanator Cellulite
RE: Not just for melees
# Apr 28 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
Bah you all are retards. This should go to a meelee class. Not gonna specify which one, but haste is for meelee and that's the way it is!!!
RE: Not just for melees
# May 16 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
Umm, Oogky....... ever hear of Tolapumj's robe? It's caster only and has 30% haste so....... Anyways, yes this is a great item for Melees and casters alike, seriously, what does a warrior really need INT and WIS for other than tradeskills?
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 05 2003 at 2:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Shadowhawkabj faction is something that can be worked on. If you're KoS to giants just start working on changing it. Many do but then there are the lazy ones.
ALL
# Mar 10 2003 at 11:49 AM Rating: Default
all classes benifite from these gloves so why can't every class where them they are good for casters and fighters so stop argueing. just go get the head, turn it in, and you have a good set of haste, mana, HP, what ever stat you need gloves.

Smiley: disappointed
RE: ALL
# Mar 10 2003 at 1:41 PM Rating: Default
Maybe because 41% Haste goes directly to melees who don't have first before casters loot them for stats?
haste
# Jan 18 2003 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
ok ya ya ya What is the haste percent on these?
RE: haste
# Feb 21 2003 at 10:08 AM Rating: Decent
41% haste
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 22 2002 at 10:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ya know what I find hilarious about this whole thing is that casters say casters should get and melees say melees should get. Im surprised any of you made it past lvl 20 with this mentality. I play a cleric always have always will yeah having basiclly 16.5 wis on my hands at level 50 would be nice another 165 mana total is always nice but a clerics job is quite simple you keep your tanks alive no matter where your hunting or raiding. You rely on them to save you just as they rely on you to save them. Pretty simple thing. Now youve got your pure casters and buffers (shammy). Well lets see what is a caster they fit into 2 categories soloers and backup damage/buffs/damage prevention. Yeah these lil puppies have haste on them and great stats yippidy doodaa. Clerics can get better guants by simply doing thier epics (go check out Ixiblats drops) Casters well 165 mana is always nice for them, but once again your backup damage sorry guys its your job not my fault. MInd you chanters are diffrent since they slow KEI etc etc. Shammies I feel your pain since they have pure mana and real high wis on them but you can eat yourselves and torpor to gain it back so you have endless mana anyhow same with necros. Rogues and rangers sorry guys you need additional aggro as bout as much as a cleric. Warriors if you even bother with these gloves at the level required to get them it tells me you have P.O.S. gear and shouldnt be there anyhow. Well that leaves SK's and Pallys INT and mana for SKs or WIS and mana for pallys nice deal for either of you but I would give them to the pally first since hes more useful to the group due to backup heals buffs even resses if need be. Do I think that only pallies should be permitted these? Nope Im just saying in my book they should get the first chance. Personally id prefer to see these on everyone in the guild but I dont forsee it. Now thats ive simplified everything for you can we get back to discussing strats ideas etc etc to obtaining them?
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 05 2003 at 6:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) chuckle
RE: sillyness
# Dec 31 2002 at 2:30 PM Rating: Default
"I would give them to the pally first since hes more useful to the group due to backup heals buffs even resses if need be."

Hey you pos, this item is only obtainable with a raid force. Why the hell are you talking about paly's doing back up heals in a group. Oh, and someone on CT please slap this dumbass for me. Paly rez WTF does that have to do with haste gaunts? I'm not going to even talk about your level 51 status, that's too easy. I could go on and on, but I've already wasted too much time on a pos like you.

Merdenoms
62 Shaman
Tarew Marr
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 05 2003 at 7:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow, Very Nice Flame if i may say so... but me being a pally would not mind these even tho the guy has no idea what he is talking about
Your sillyness
# Dec 30 2002 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
What I find "silly" is someone so ignorant trying to tell everyone who should get these. Thank god you're on Cazic Thule, I'd be terrified to have you be my cleric in a pickup group. Probably try to cast CH on the chanter.

"Well lets see what is a caster they fit into 2 categories soloers and backup damage/buffs/damage prevention."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAA! Casters only solo or do backup damage to the melee's, or buff, or prevent damage. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

Idiot. I considered quoting more of your drivel, but its a waste of time to refute every single point. I'll just hit the high points.

Try doing some big mobs with no wizards around for "backup" damage.

Shaman slows beat Chanter slows. Oh, and they heal too.

Chanter needs the AC and HP, but AC doesn't scale as well for a chanter, and the haste is wasted anyway. The resists are cool though (see below).

If you think the SK mana isn't benefiting the party, its because you've never played an SK at high level. It's not HEALING the party, but if you can't see past direct benefits, your l33t strategy lacks.

Good rangers and rogues have ways of shedding aggro because they did "too much damage." And haste affects bow shots. I suggest you hang out with some elite rangers and see why wizards get jealous.

Above 200, stats give less mana; more than they used to but less than below the soft cap. So you may not get as much mana as you think. Doesn't matter. At raid level (the level it takes to get these) no one gives a big rip about the AC, the HP, or the stats. It's Resists, Resists, Resists. And this item has them.

Further, since it has haste, it could conceivably allow a melee to remove another haste item elsewhere in favor of a resist item, without compromising damage output. So the "best class" is going to depend on your guild's gear.

[sarcasm] In short, the best class for this item is Beastlord! They both melee and cast healing spells too![/sarcasm]

Elizor


Edited, Mon Dec 30 16:02:29 2002
Well considering....
# Dec 12 2002 at 5:15 AM Rating: Default
That this is a QUEST item all the B******G about who can loot these is completely irrelevent. This IMO ISNT a random or a whoo should get this item or who shouldnt get this item. As nice as these are I wont EVER get them. Im on COV faction NOT kael. If your killing Giants in Velious, You not getting these either, sorry just a fact. If your taking the dragon down that drops the head then great most likley your taking him down for the person that wants to do this quest.

So please before you post mindless drivel about who should get and who should loot look at all of the items info (especially if its a quest).
RE: Well considering....
# Jan 31 2003 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
Shadow... I'll be the first to admit I'm not the biggest expert on the higher level game. However, I know of people who would change their whole factions status for items like these. Most recently the highest-end guilds on each server-despite that they will be farming VT, SSRA, and some of the higher tier (BoT, HoHA or HoHB, and PoTa) PoP zones-are factionless. If some people were bored one night and decided to kill Yelinak or the Dain I can promise that whoever got their heads sure as hell wouldn't let the item pass them by (because if they had better waist/hands they probably wouldn't have looted the head in the first place). My point is, just because people are killing giants doesn't mean that they will never see this item. I, myself, am on CoV faction at the minute; however, were I to get Yelinak's head, the plains around Thurgardin would soon have a far scarcer number of tracking wolves and their stumpy masters.
RE: Well considering....
# May 01 2003 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
King Tormax is the faction you need to complete this quest. Tracking wolves do not gain KT faction. Only Coldain Heads, Dain IV, Yelinak, a mercenary supply quest and perhaps some others will gain you KT faction. It took me from January until April to get mine up to where I could do the turn-in, and I worked at it a lot. I am now proud owner of these as a warrior.
RE: Well considering....
# May 15 2003 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
Apologies for a post that doesn't attempt to help anyone.

Just wanted to say Congratulations to Slinky.

Very nice item.
RE: Well considering....
# May 13 2003 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
My KT/Zek/Riff faction went from dub/kos/kos to ami/ami/ind in just 2 days of slaughtering dorfs, turning in their heads to Bvellos, so it's not a hard faction to raise.
Learn your class please
# Dec 08 2002 at 11:15 PM Rating: Excellent
I find many of these posts amusing. there is one that says he has seen every class but a wiz melee.please reread that last statement and please casters post what you think. the times i see casters melee is when group is killing so easy they do it for fun not because they think they are tanks. Once i meet a caster who thinks they can tank better than a warrior i would just assume they are an ebay character and make a point to avoid them in future. At the same time as a warrior i cant cast spells anywhere near as good as a caster so in real fights what say we learn how to play our specific class. For those who still think casters can tank please sell your character where you bought it and stop being a hazard to those of us in game that have actually leveled our characters ourself and understand them.(btw i have nothing against casters just morons. some of my best friends are casters)

Slayman Bloodstealer
61 Warlord
Ebay-basher
RE: Learn your class please
# Sep 19 2003 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
Ever seen a wizard turn auto attack on while standing under a dragon belly nuking? yeah it doesn't add any noticeable dps(there nukes are a different story), but it doesn't hurt.

Sithanator Cellulite
RE: Learn your class please
# Jul 19 2003 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
Well, chanters with the right combo of spells, aa's and buffs can tank pretty damn good actually :)

And no, I'm not kidding.
RE: Learn your class please
# Mar 03 2003 at 2:04 PM Rating: Default
Hail,

I am a 33 necro and I am able to tank things under the right circumstances...if you cast your leach over time before you go into battle you can stay alive...if you get low on life, FD get up and cast your highest guick life steal and your back up to nearly full health and rdy to go back into the fray...if you put a couple dots on b4 you start to meelee and keep banshee aura on, you can meelee pretty efficiently (1 bub mana per kill)

Menilia Corpserot
Necromancer of the 33rd season
RE: Learn your class please
# Mar 28 2003 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
Try to do that later on, you won't be pleasantly suprised.

Kyzoku 62 Ranger

Perillous 30 Necro
RE: Learn your class please
# Dec 11 2002 at 11:15 PM Rating: Default
Well said
RE: Learn your class please
# Sep 30 2005 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
Hate to carry out an old grudges, but I can tank better than most warriors with my gear (warrior equivalent), at my level, especially without a cleric. I will admit, though, it is better to have a warrior tank because tanking as a necro is a huge drain on mana. So please, to whoever posted the article about all casters who think they can tank better than warriors, reconsider your wording and do not base a "fact" only on what you know (playing only a level 61 from what your signature says).
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Just as a side note, these gloves really don't belong on int casters, we can get much better items nowadays and this was even so back then for what they could have been used for. I would also rather see these on my berserker alt before they ended on my Necromancer.
way better than ss
# Nov 24 2002 at 2:28 AM Rating: Default
nuff said
stuff...
# Oct 07 2002 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
ok this is just what i hear as a lvl 44 warrior:
AC = You Need it! (Better be above 850 by 50)
HP = You Need it! (bout 2.5k or up by 50)
ATK = You Need it! (bout 1k by 50)
Str = Important (upper 230's to 250+ by 50)
Sta = Get it up to 255 (easy as that)
Agi = what i hear is it effects how many crits ya get and somewhat of how hard so i'd say at LEAST 140's by 50
Dex = don't really need less ya gots a procing weapon so bout 120 or like 100 or so
Wis = ummm no
Int = your swinging a sword thats all ya need to know how to so (that and disarming, Taunting(if MT) and kick/Bashing)
Cha = Don't need it unless you really wanna be liked by vendors (if so get some opal encrusted steins and usin while ya sell)
Resists(Poison, Magic, Disease, Fire, Cold) = Must HAVE!!!!!!!! and if ya wanna get into the good guilds some of them require such things like resists well above 100 or so.... Well Anyway Thats what i hear a WARRIOR needs oh yes and...
HASTE = Get it
Mana = Fock it

(All opinions are those of this dumbass warrior and not neccesarily those of this site or the readers/writers of this site and if you have a problem FLAME ME DAMNIT!!)


Favorite Quote: "******* love me" -Mindless Self Indulgence
RE: stuff...
# Jul 01 2003 at 10:23 AM Rating: Default
a more accurate view:

AC - get it up to 1150+ (around 1200 is soft cap)
HP - get as many straight +hp items as you can... most important stat for tanks (and everyone in the high end)
STA - 1 sta is about 5 hp until you're at 210 sta or so... then buffs will put you to cap, and its no longer any good. if one item has 10 sta and another has 50 hp, the 50 straight hp is better because of this.

STR - minor increase in ATK, don't bother
DEX - increases procs... warriors should have, but not focus on this. they suck at holding agro without nice procing weapons
AGI - minor increase in AC, don't bother

resists - useful, but dont bother with trying for them specifically. if you're doing a dragon you'll have resist buffs/bards and that should put you up to a resist soft cap, and for most regular exping it won't matter too much how high your resists are.


for warriors, i'd also try to get good procing weapons. please please use a wavecrasher/anything else over a windblade. that 50/44 ratio won't do much good if your chanter is getting pounded down because he/she crippled.


summary: AC to 1150+, HP HP HP HP HP HP and 200 or so STA. everything else is of limited value compared to these.


Edited, Tue Jul 1 11:06:23 2003
RE: stuff...
# Sep 19 2003 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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I have a 50 warrior alt, and I'd have to say I agree with Miyew's list of importance of stats, more than the other. Particularly the limited value of STR.

My main is a cleric, and my worst nightmare are always when I get a pickup warrior in group, and they show up with a wurmslayer and a defender's lightblade (yes, I have had a LVL 60, do this). Then you inspect, and they have tons of str items, with no HP on them (hero bracers, bracelet of might, etc). This GUARANTEES that 1) I'm gonna be healing constantly, as they have too few hp. 2) they will lose aggro when I CH, and I'm gonna get pounded.

Now, as far as the windblade thing, that really depends on whether you are MT or not. When my warrior groups with some of the 55+ in PoI, Our SK tanks, as his Defense is higher than mine, and he therefore has about 150ac more, plus he has an easier time grabbing aggro, and it speeds our kills up. I use my windblade then. When I am MT, I use CHoS and SoBS, both of which proc DD+stun.

Edited, Fri Sep 19 10:52:20 2003
RE: stuff...
# Mar 10 2003 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
i like this guy.. cept i believe but could be mistaken that agi increases ac and defensive skills, therefor thats what im working on right now with my horribly underequipped lvl 46 warrior, dex affects crits i believe too, and procs, as well as the learn rate on weapon skills. also, my atk at 46 with un maxed skills is 945, ill let you know what is when i hit 50 to the person who posted that 1k atk by 50 is impossible, i have 3 peices of equipment i wil consider good atm, my moktor greaves, my bedleg, and my bracelet of might.
RE: stuff...
# Sep 19 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Replace the bracelet of might with a crystal chitin wristband, or even a bracelet of fortitude. at 46, you should have almost NO items with no HP/Sta on them.
RE: stuff...
# Oct 10 2002 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
Agi is ac. Dex improves chance of hitting crits your never gonna get your ac and attack over 1k by 50 less u have the cash to buy good gear or u do kael..ALOT. Resists are only important in ToV cause dragons do almost constant AE's ( yes I know few other encounters it's usefull too but main is really ToV , don't kid urself) only thing that is important is ac and hp. Those 2 can only be buffed so much on raids I have 255 of every stat with or without the resist gear on. Sta is god..agi is god...pure hp is god....monks get nerfed ahahahahahahahahhaha Silly monkeys gonna be useless dmg dealers from now on no more getting a monk picked over my for grps in a week.

Edited, Thu Oct 10 14:13:44 2002
RE: stuff...
# Dec 10 2002 at 10:25 PM Rating: Good
You are sadly mistaken about the monk Nerf, monks will be hit by mobs more often, not hit mobs less often. Also, the only ways you can possibly get attack up is by much hightened str, buffs (Grim Aura, Scream of hate line, Mark of the Predator, etc...) or having weapon skills and offense maxxed, I don't know what "doing Kael...ALOT." means but it sounds like either getting good gear from Kael (Which is rare outside of Tormax's closest chambers unless your trying to get Coroded armor for Thurgadin, and even then Thurgadin Armor can be improved upon, greatly) or you mean by doing quests in Kael and getting good gear, like these gauntlets. If your reffering to the second case then you shouldn't bother to mention that to someone who thinks you should have such stats at 50 (It's impossible, unless you're either (a) Severly twinked using MQ's and various pieces of gear you shouldn't be able to get or (b) damn near insane and/or hallucinating). Also, it's kind of hard to believe you have all of your stats at 255 with or without resist gear in use. Most higher end guilds reccomend that you use Blue Diamond and diamond jewelery in order to get the best resists possible without using Paypal to buy loot rights (Or whatever you EULA breakers use). Considering the stats that said jewelery has, it's very hard to imagine all your stats at 255 since they only have resists and mana. If you actually do have all of your stats at 255 with resist gear on then you must have visited Vex Thal, Lord Inquisitor Seru, NToV, and the high tier planes way too much. To add to your comment about ToV being the main place for resist gear, if you seriously believe the main place to use resist gear only is in ToV and the Halls of Testing then please kid yourself and do so, one less person aggroing a mob early or acting like a complete jackass on a raid he really does not belong on. To the person who originally started this thread, please think logically, it's understandable that errors can be made by lower level people, but trying to set an impossibly high standard for a level 50 is rather foolish, and also please post a thread related to the item/quest above, please don't post theories of gameplay under an item, it doesn't make a lot of sense unless your adding onto someone else's post. /rant off

Edited, Tue Dec 10 22:11:22 2002
RE: stuff...
# Mar 18 2003 at 12:27 AM Rating: Default
i agree with you except.... a warrior with a bd bracelet.... you sure bout that, thers gotta be some better resist gear out there with out saacrficing ac.
RE: stuff...
# Oct 24 2002 at 10:56 PM Rating: Default
lol.. u sir are a cabbage.. you know its true.. dont kid yourself :)
RE: stuff...
# Mar 10 2003 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
i like this guy howcanthis exist too, hes funny
Gloves
# Sep 30 2002 at 3:55 PM Rating: Default
As per these gloves, It doesnt really matter what class they better for. If your guilds able to take down the mobs to get these gloves, everyone who wants can end up with a pair sooner or later. As for the haste for casters, should come visit my server, we got many casters on our server who can out melee the average melee player on our server aside from the melees in their own guild and a few others about.

Ever seen a 60th Cleric melee a group of 5 level 55 to 60s to death with a 2hander, I have and it wasnt pretty. Im from a PVP server, so gloves like that could benefit anyone, its just more of a matter of who in your guild needs them more then anyone else.

RE: Gloves
# Mar 10 2003 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
even me, a warrior will agree that casters can melee, i just dont recommend in some situations. all you people who say casters were solely meant for non melee wanna explain to me the ratio on the mage epic?
RE: Gloves
# Mar 01 2003 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
i agree i am tired of hearing other people say how someone else should play there class just because they think they are playing it wrong if a caster wants to try to melee let them it is there choice to do so if they get killed it is there fault but if they kill it then who is to say they are not playing there class right. so for those of you with no lives telling others how to live thers try worrying about your life and how you do stuff not how someone else is liveing there life.
Who Should Get It
# Sep 22 2002 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Silly arguement. If you get this item it will be a raid effort. The guild will decide who gets it based oh who has what and who will it will benifit in a raid setting. Or in the cases of guilds on point systems who ever bids highest for it. These could benift any of a number of classes. Most guilds doing this raid will have alot of better items for many of there members.

My 2 cents

Taelia Moonshadow
Grave Lord
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 14 2002 at 1:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) pallies suck
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 08 2002 at 10:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Simply put...these are some of the highest +mana gloves in the game....that alone makes them better for casters, there are several 41% haste items out there ;p but 75+ mana gloves? at least for a druid, there are next to NONE. The best gloves i've seen are my PoG quest glvoes with 50 mana and NO hp which hurts actaully.
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 09 2002 at 9:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm sorry but 25 extra mana does not come close to making up for the fact that 41% haste goes to waste on a druid.. These are not caster gloves but Ranger/Shadow Knight/Paladin gloves..
RE: +mana
# Sep 21 2002 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
At the level you are killing yeli most of your guild will have 41% haste, though these gloves are nice for every class except monks pretty much. :P

no good for monk?
# Nov 03 2002 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
Actually, people tend to forget that by the time you are in a situation (as a monk) where this will be dropping, your guild's enchi's haste will be overwriting our epic haste. That taken into consideration, these gaunts are much better than our epic minus the haste effect. The only reason monks kept their epics equiped so long was for soloing purposes, which has all but been eliminated in the recent patches. You may begin to see monks wanting in on some of these higher end gaunts now.

Latomi
RE: no good for monk?
# Nov 21 2002 at 5:27 AM Rating: Default
Wrong, monk epic effect is a bard song
RE: no good for monk?
# Dec 12 2002 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent
29 posts
Yes, it is song haste that doesn't stack with other song haste or with spell haste, with the exception of "over the cap" haste songs.

For the most part, bard haste and chanter haste do NOT stack.
RE: no good for monk?
# Nov 12 2002 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
you don't know what monk epic does, rofl
monk epic is a bard song that wills stack with other haste items. in other words this item don't suck for monks, just that it would do more good for ANYOTHER class then a monk, yes it has 0 wt, yes it has 30 ac, big deal. everything with 0.0 wt isn't meant for a monk, learn more of your class before ya start posting stuff that you have no idea about.
Right, not a monk item
# Sep 04 2002 at 11:55 PM Rating: Default
Uh, why wouldn't a monk get these gloves? 0.0 weight... If I were a monk and someone said you don't really need them, I would donkey punch em. Or is it Dragon punch?
RE: Right, not a monk item
# Sep 07 2002 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
Simply because of your epic which goes in the hands slot. Would sort of be a waste... most hand items don't go to monks due to that fact. They'd be ahead to get another haste item that goes in that slot. Don't get me wrong, it's nice for monks, but why give up that 40% haste that stacks with permanent haste??

Archoon Sagittarius
Warder of Tunare
Last Exodus, Xev
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