Mithril Two-Handed Sword  

 

I did a comparison of swords and used Yaulp as the timer. Count the number of swipes between "let forth a mighty yaulp" and your "your surge of strength fades" Discount ripostes and double attacks of course. After doing this over and over I have determined that this sword is fster than my Nathsar Greatsword. I'd have to put it at 21/29 or even 21/28 (which would correspond to the allegend 30% haste--40 X .7 =28) I consistently hit in 80's and peaked in low 90's with a Storm Strength and the yaulp stacked but who cares about the big hits when you get so many more of them throughout the course of a battle. I believe this sword is vastly underrated and underpriced...got mine for 1250pp on Drinal...Thank you

Ok, this is a question I have been wondering about for some time. Before I start, forget everything about delay and how often the weap hits, that is irrelevant.

I am a 44 SK, and I can hit max of 103 buffed with Siphon Str and Grim Aura. My simple question is: What is the maximum damage the Mith2hs can do at level 44 as an SK/Pal, with 150 str?

I camped a BABS because as a troll SK, I like to see big hits (and I'm dirt poor :) But of course, the BABS looks like CRAP, so if I can still hit the big stuff, I may switch over to the Mith, its not like I'll ever afford/win an FBSS anytime soon...

Last thing, how is the +40 delay damage bonus calculated?

Thanks for any help!

Ghurn Dagrotesque
Troll Shadowknight of the 44th Skull
Leader of Shadowstormers, Karana

Its me again, couldnt figure out to reply to my ealeir message. im lvl 29 now (i know, its pitiful i lvl sooooooooooo slow) anyhoo, im not really a twink, this is my main char. I got the mith2h from some dood who was cleraing his bank and i gave him, basically allthe crap from my bank, and he let me get it, the most valuabke thinghe got from me was a Exe Axe. I was VERRRRRY lucky gettin this. I actually got the Mith2h at lvl 14 (hehe) adn im usin it right now, but i would like to be hittin for 100's andstuff, rather than 40-50's. Any suggestions???

Ok kids, here's an explanation of how Haste works, as playin' both a 'chanter and a monk, I know a bit about the matter.

Characters may have two haste effects on them, an item haste and a spell haste. Two item hastes will not stack. (Flowing Black Silk Sash and Cloak of Flames will just use the CoF's haste) Two spells hastes will not stack. (Aug+SLTW=No)

One can have multiple item hastes if the item *PROCS* or *right clicks* haste. Most items do not, all items with "haste" listed to my knowledge are a permanent effect, the mith 2 hander, FBSS, and CoF being examples. However, there are a select few items that proc haste, which is considered a spell effect, not an item haste effect. The Iksar Berserker club is an example, this item procs a haste like effect similar to augmentation. (Gives a haste buff, a strength buff and a slight AC buff, if I recollect proper) Regardless of the precise effects, it is a spell effect, not an item effect.

Now, as for the "science" of haste. Honestly, unless you know a friend of yours who happens to A) Work for Verant, or B) Plays off of an OC12, your best bet is disregarding whatever information they say.

Those who say that they have tested a given item and "mathematically calculated" are usually off their rocker, especially in examples like the mith two hander. Ten percent haste on the M2H would be 4/10ths of a second. With latency issues that is almost unmeasurable even if you have a stopwatch. 4/10s of a second can easily become 8/10s of a second, or twice as nasty, with the slightest latency fluctuation, and don't think that your little bar in the corner is gonna be an accurate measure.

The best bet for you as an individual to test out haste effects is to invest a few platinum in a goofy little item called "Mroon's Toy" unfortunately, this item is practically useless by most people's standards, so it's never sold, and Mroon though not rare, can be a pain in the butt to find. (Though terribly easy once you do)

Mroon's Toy is a 20/70 2hb, yes you read that right. There is rumor he will occasionally drop a 50/120 version, but I've never seen screenshots or any such, so I wouldn't buy that either.

Anyhow, Mroon's Toy is an outstanding method of testing out haste because of the fact that the delay is so monstrous, the haste effects become much more visible. Testing haste effects with a 20 delay weapon vs. Mroon's Toy = 3 and 1/2 times more visible to the arbitrary tester.

I still don't recommend sitting down with a stopwatch even with Mroon's toy, but, it'll let you eyeball haste effects quite a bit.

Unfortunately, Mroon's Toy doesn't let you test the M2h, but you can test just about every other haste item in the game, even the weapons with procs associated, as you can have the item proc, then swap to the Toy.

hey, i have one of these, do i have to do anything to have the haste effect? like right click it or something? I like it. up to now i have just been using it. But i notice that a lot of effect stuff , means you have to click it or something , Doh , i am relatively new to EQ , but my pally is lvl 39
Torsk Holynight, Ad Gloriam
Paladin 0f the 39th season
(Often refferred to as Torsk Imanewbie)
Lanys T'Vyl

All I can tell you is that I swing about every 3sec with a 80 to 105 hits. I'm sure there are better, but I've yet to see one in action faster then the Mithril. Last night I saw one going for 2500pp on trovonnilous and sold in about 10 min. If you don't have one, watch someone do battle with one, it will make your mouth water!!

PS.. as for looks, it's a nice way to hide it in PvP areas. People don't know what hit them....lol

some note about delay Vs time :
delay 40 mean this weapon will swing every 4 second if not other haste effect.
swing time =dly/10. why divide 10 ? because they don't want show any decimal in screen

here is formula to calculate haste %

FD = final delay after haste
ID = initial delay show in weapon without haste

>>>>FD = ID * {100% / (100%+haste%) )}

arrange formula we got :
>>>>haste ={(ID*100) / FD } - 100

now. we know ID (initial delay). but how do we know FD(Final delay) ???? here is a simple method to calculate it:

find a terget( any target. yourself,NPC, player, mob). then stand at far distance and hit auto-attack
PS: please don't attack it/him/her. you don't need real hit the target. you will get message said " you try to hit target. but target is out of range"

ok you get message each swing so you can calcutate the average time per swing by calculate total swing in 5 minute and divide 300 second. then you get FD now !! you can try longer time peroid to get better average. anyway 5 minute is quiet good if you calculate time accuracy



very simple ha ? if you still can't understand well. here is step by step:

1, calculate number of weapon swing(N)in 5 minute. get FD = N / 300 .

2, write down weapon delay include any decimal. get ID = dly/10.

3, haste % ={(ID*100) / FD } - 100
or haste % = (ID / FD ) - 1

hope that help you stop argu about what delay on this wepaon. do it yourself at your level and get your best answer

not going to argue the haste point to far here. It is quite a bit faster then my GB which is 34 delay... My guess woulb be about 6 fast faster.. I think it has a 28 delay. could be 27 or even 29. GB with the FBSS is still just a bit slower slower. I have read that the FBSS is 21% haste and the mith is 31. Which after comparing the two seem about right.. I pick up a darkwood Katana.. same dam and delay as mith 2 hander and use my fbss with it to compare speeds. Mith was much faster. I have no idea about the mith being a level based haste..if so i am 52 should have the max on the mith...the level based hastes seems unlike but i would not put it passed V. just to stop ppl for twickin the item to bad. If it is not level based then it sould be one hell of a twink item. But it is on hell of a good sword anywany