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Slot: LEGS
AC: 39
DEX: -5 AGI: -5 HP: +25
WT: 15.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR SHD
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Plate 1
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Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:500 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:1480
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Item Updated By:Bobbybick
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Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
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Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 50

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melee output
# Jun 02 2003 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I think if you factor in good luck then a rogue can tie a ranger for the award for "highest melee output" I have seen rogues sneak up to an ongoing battle of some large mob and backstab for some rediculous amount, take the loot and sneak away. Not very admirable but then again is there really any honor amung thieves?
#bbumsted, Posted: Jun 04 2003 at 12:31 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) any group that can get outdamaged by a single rogue deserves to have its loot taken away. and if they didnt figure out that its against EQ rules for the rogue to do it and petition then they are just complete morons....
Rogue best melee ?
# Jan 25 2003 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
To the poster lower down who said best melee damage is Rogue/monk/warrior/ranger is way off.
Best dmg dealer is Ranger with AM3+EQ, useing a decent bow. After that would be Rogue then Monk then last but not least Warrior. I hate too burst your bubble but Rangers are no longer paper tanks allways LFG.Admittedly bows are situational but in the right setting our damage is sick, fire off Trueshot disc and then it just gets silly, it really is that good.
RE: Rogue best melee ?
# Feb 04 2003 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
11 posts
I as a Warrior hate to admit it, but you are correct. No matter what anyone says, a Ranja is by far the highest output melee in game. I was with my guild in UP when our lvl 65 Ranja popped off trueshot and KS'ed a full group. I don't give a dam what anyone says, nobody can beat a Ranja's melee output. And with a fatal bowshot, rediculous. Hands down and hats off to Ranja's.
RE: Rogue best melee ?
# Feb 18 2003 at 3:37 PM Rating: Good
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last i checked bows were nonmelee so rangers are the best at bow damage true but that doesnt mean best melee output or did the ranger posting this forget it says
soandso is hit for 15 points nonmelee damage

im not arguing against it just the face that bows arent melee as with any ranged item now if a duel centi ranger can outdo my rogue then ill agree with the rangers are the best melee until then esp since my rogue averages 250-300 per bs and has a max of 435
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Appearance
# Dec 30 2002 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Got these a few days ago for my Barbarian Warrior on Quellious. Indeed they appeared like silver plate with blue kilt UNTIL I turned all the armours on in my eqclient file...now they look utterly different: like gold spandex with a neat design. So here I am with my Warrior modeled in the image of Conan, plate all over BUT for his spandex gold leggings - no kilt - just very tight butt-hugging spandex. I was not too happy. Many people would probably really like the look; it just doesn't fit my style. However, because of the incredible ac, I will suck it up and deal with it until I can complete some higher armour quests or make myself some Helanic Tundra.

Edited, Mon Dec 30 11:49:59 2002
RE: Appearance
# May 30 2003 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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spandex... HAHAHAHA
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got one!
# Aug 14 2002 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
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woot picked up one of these bad boys tonight on emarr for 14kpp.

Rarity
# May 13 2002 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
20 posts
Are these extremely rare or something? I've only seen them auctioned one time... =|
look
# Apr 16 2002 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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For anyone who cares, they look just like champions armor on a character, silverish plate. Not a bad look and definately a badass item.
Graphic?
# Feb 02 2002 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
can anyone tell me what these things look like on a barbarian warrior? (Just want to know how they'd go with my cobalt)
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#chitos, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 12:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) An SK can out taunt a warrior anyday, but in most cases warriors have more ac/hp (mind you most cases not all). Oh and btw the SK epic dps is horrible and IMHO id rather have a massive dragonclaw shard 28/30 1hs or better and the xtra ac/stats of a shield i.e. atramentous or fearsome, etc. So the SK epic is not always necessary.
RE: SK's
# Jan 30 2003 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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A wise person once said "any fool can out-taunt a warrior, but only a fool would try."

Sure, we SK can tank, most stuff anyway. But if I'm grouped with a warrior I always let them have aggro, it's just common sense. They have more hp and better AC (if they are anywhere near as good at their class as I am at mine.) And more hp/AC mean fewer CH from cleric, which means longer life for the group.
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RE: SK's
# Jun 23 2003 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
23 posts
The only time i ever taunt off the main tank in a group is when our healer falls asleep and the tank gets below 15% health. even then though, it's just "taunt, engulfing darkness, spear of disease, taunt" and the mob is on me, no matter how long the tank has had aggro. and in extreme cases, there's HT.

sure, we can outtaunt them. we even have spells SPECIFIC for the purpose of getting aggro. but why else would we want to?
RE: SK's
# Jan 06 2010 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
11 posts
If only you guys could see us SK's now days =) pure stompage.
RE: SK's
# Sep 18 2002 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Inn Curse DPS is horrible? Sorry, but that is just plain silly.

You are among the many that frequently underestimate the effectiveness of the Soul Consumption proc. 250 points over 30 secs (DPS of 8.33) is AWESOME. Not to mention the healing aspect of it.

Run the numbers. On the proc, Inn curse outdamages quite a few weapons, including weapons that you otherwise would think it wouldnt

Lunatic
RE: SK's
# Jan 21 2002 at 1:59 PM Rating: Default
13 posts
SK Epic DPS is not horrible at all. The proc rate on the sword in quite amazing and basically the SK is constantly regening because of it at a fast pace. That proc DOT lifetap also has to be added into the equation when considering damage of the weapon. Now whether a person should use a shield is a matter of debate. Sure if you are main tank in a raid a shield and a 1 hander is the way to go but most of the time in raids the SK is not the main tank and is better served haveing the constant regen from the proc to help reduce the impact of AoE. Also in solo this sword rocks, almost every SK I know with the epic uses the IC solo unless they have Palladius's axe.
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#Barneby, Posted: Jan 29 2002 at 5:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dunno why this post is here considering it should be about the legs but i'll add some random babble anyway :P
#Fenriz, Posted: Mar 10 2002 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nice to be a DE sk too, switching to the now DE usable Greenmist :p
RE: SK's
# Apr 06 2002 at 6:50 AM Rating: Default
13 posts
May be other race usable, but u cant MQ it and u sure cant do all the prequel quests from cab for it. So.....iskar only in fact still. =)
RE: SK's
# Feb 20 2003 at 4:51 PM Rating: Default
bought hero's khukri, greenish metal shard, and history of the greenmist in bazaar for a pleasantly nice price. my erudite SK will have greenmist soon after i get a few thousand more bonechips...
RE: SK's
# Feb 01 2003 at 1:10 AM Rating: Default
Its pretty easy to get faction for cabilis, in every part of it (full ally with cabilis) if you dont think TIME makes something hard. it will be damn easy for a level 30+ sk to MOW DOWN exiled iksars, just probably very time consuming. can be done though. luckily for me, I dont think "time consuming = hard". easy.
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RE: SK's
# May 20 2002 at 7:26 PM Rating: Default
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Unfortunately, the Hero's Khukri is droppable. So all you have to do is find an Iksar SK willing to sell you his Khukri and then do the quest to get the first Khukri back. As far as faction, there's always the bonechip quest which, while painfully tedious, will give the necessary faction to turn in the Hero's Khukri for the Lord of Pain's Khukri (which is the last Khukri quest before Greenmist).

Seen people trying to buy them on Nameless a few times recently. >:(
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it true?
# Nov 19 2001 at 2:11 AM Rating: Decent
i herd there was only 5 of these per server.. that true?
RE: it true?
# Nov 19 2001 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Just like any other drop off any other named. My group has personally gotten four of these of these and I'm postive that there is more than one other person on the server that has them
selling
# Nov 08 2001 at 11:11 PM Rating: Default
2 posts
I currently have a pair of these for sell on the tribunal. asking for 50k send tells to chulito or saddann will accept trades but has to be one or two "uber" items not 500,000 yaks. can negotiate but got with a partner so whatever happens goes through us both
drop
# Oct 10 2001 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
43 posts
dropped from bled near velk
You don't group with many SKs
# Sep 14 2001 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
In the average xp group, a SK actually makes a better tank than a warrior, especially if they have the epic.

The SK taunt factor totally owns with rogues/rangers/monks in the group, casters can nuke away and never get aggro.

With circlet of shadows, snare, and fd SKs can in some cases outpull monks by snaring, invising, and running the mob through a sea of greenies. Snared mobs are also much easier to feign split in general.

Self only damage shield, lifetaps, snare are very nice for your tank to have. Harm Touch isn't a great source of damage, but it stops gaters at the push of a button.

With c2 and epic an sk can tank a slowed mob and rarely need a heal. In my experience SKs are better equipped on average due to less competition. It was common for me to have a higher AC than warriors I'd group with.

It boils down to: If you don't HAVE to have defensive, you don't NEED a warrior.
RE: You don't group with many SKs
# Apr 08 2002 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
Spoken like a completely objective shadowknight. /laugh
RE: You don't group with many SKs
# Apr 01 2003 at 2:06 AM Rating: Decent
6 posts
As a (52) sk myself, I totally agree with you. Having a 52 monk as a friend, when it comes to group splitting I always get the job because its so easy with our darkness line...the only problem is the long reuse of FD (fixed with LoY spell Comatose, takes 7 seconds less to reuse....still only 54sec max on duration though).
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#Knght, Posted: Aug 31 2001 at 2:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) pallies taunt better than warriors and SKs w/ the stuns. pallies can have almost the same AC as a warrior (war can get more cuz of better armour available, though not ez to obtain), if the warrior is not uberly twinked, ie w/ full tov armour. i am the main tank in 99% of the groups i've been in.
RE: oh yeah?
# Jan 16 2002 at 12:12 PM Rating: Default
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Id love to see your stuns out-taunt mine =) Disease Cloud, Shadow Vortex, etc. Shadowknights have sone of the best taunt spells out there.

oh, and pallys suck. (had to say it)
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RE: oh yeah?
# Sep 08 2001 at 8:01 AM Rating: Default
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i'd drop the pally and the ranger and get a shaman and a bard personally. gotta love those shaman buffs and slows.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 15 2001 at 5:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SERIOUSLY
#Ragik, Posted: Sep 08 2001 at 8:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) the point you are missing, i believe, is that shadowknights are primarily offensive, and are better at taunting. paladins are defensive tanks, thus they can buff better, heal, and blind/root/stun their opponent. in my opinion, sk's should get dual wield, but they should lose bash, parry, riposte (maybe not riposte), and then they will become a primarily offensive tank.
RE: different tanks, different taunts
# Nov 13 2001 at 6:06 PM Rating: Default
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LOL Sk's are not offensive tanks. Rangers are the offensive. SK's are somewhere in the middle. They are KNIGHTS, just dark knights. Ever read Dragonlance? Or any other fantasy novels? The dark knights follow the same exact code as the good knights, just for evil purposes. Therefore.. there the same, with just a little differences. Paladins get healing spells and stuns, SK's get dots and snares. Their tanking abilities are pretty much the same, there damage output is pretty much the same.. I highly doubt they will ever get duel weild hehe Its just not becoming of a knight ;)

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#Ragik, Posted: Sep 08 2001 at 8:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 15 2001 at 5:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
Price anyone?
# Aug 08 2001 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
does anyone know the price on a pair of these?

-thanks shenron
RE: Price anyone?
# Dec 18 2001 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
I saw one for sale the other day. He was asking 55k. And, for the person below- nothing with 39ac blows.

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I didn't want to do this but...
# Jul 03 2001 at 3:33 AM Rating: Default
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For those who whine and complain about how overpowered SKs are, let me give you a reality check...

FACT1: SKs are EVIL. This means that when you hunted Oasis, you could go to the gypsies/inn for food and water, and I had to walk ALL the way back to Neriak or Grobb, dodging Slate and friends through lag-infested EC, many times dying just for that. That in EQ, is what being EVIL means... It gets worse as you increase your level, at least until you can start killing Slate and friends back >:)

FACT2: SKs are low damage tanks with a few minorly useful spells until level 30. Want to know why a lot of SKs solo? They aren't allowed in groups because they can't tank (well) and they can't hit (well), and if they taunt, they won't be saved easily. The only thing they are used by groups pre-30 is fear kiting, and the occaisonal snare.

FACT3: HT is WAY worse than LoH, admittedly this is targeted at paladins, but it must be recognized that HT is only really usefull in the early newbie years, where it helps to save your life, or solo yellas/reds (your choice) Once you go past 30, the damage you deal with it is laughable on the scale of the mob's HP. This improves slightly post-40, but not tremendously.

This then is why SKs have the good weapons/armors. This is the reason we played and slaved through the grueling early years of our class! Our class is one of the "late-bloomers", so it makes perfect sense that we get some hefty rewards from sticking with our class so long. I take twice as long to gain a level as a human paladin, and four times to break hell. I have EARNED the right to wield awesome weapons and armor like this. And for your information, I don't have this, I'm a poor SK who has scraped together some sentient and a BABS and still wears some fine plate. It is items like this that make me keep playing my SK as my main, despite the hardships, trials and tribulations.

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#Jawnimus, Posted: Mar 03 2002 at 8:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) at 55 us SK's get a /dis that increases the damage of a harm touch. Taking it from 700ish to around 1.5k. HT will save your mother *censored* *censored* a lot of times.
RE: I didn't want to do this but...
# Nov 30 2001 at 2:18 PM Rating: Default
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Bah.

Sounds like all your hardship comes from being a TROLL, not from being a Shadowknight. TROLLS have exp penalties, TROLLS are kos to sgt slate (DE are dubious). You have the right complaints for the wrong reasons.

I do agree with you that SKs really shine in the higher levels. A lvl 60 shadowknight is just a joy to have around. Most SK's I see having problems leveling is due to having social problems (ever notice that most ppl who play necros and sk's are pre-teens?) and groups avoiding the PLAYER not the class.

Oh, and the HT/LoH argument is just silliness. Both have uses, and both are damn near never used so it's moot.
RE: I didn't want to do this but...
# Jul 29 2002 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
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Or Iksar ..... we don't have it terribly easy, but that's the way we want it ;-). I agree on the "late blooming" part. Life post-40 has gotten far better, and post-50 will be setter still. As for the LoH/HT taunting arguments -- lots of sides to it in my exp. My HT is saved in case I need to quickly get aggro off a caster. My taunts are scarily good, and I click off my lifetaps if the MA warrior is close in level, and switch to a 2HS so I don't hit too fast. If I have taps/DoTs up, and use Shard of Night (21/24), it is *really* hard to take aggro from me. And actually I hope not to group with people who want to take aggro from me if I'm MA!
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# Jun 27 2001 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just checked mine after the 27th June patch and they are now AC39.
Dropped from a golem named Bled.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 04 2001 at 9:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well they do. They blow next to cobalt.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 04 2001 at 5:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if your talking about old style pre expansion eq then all warriors do is tank if your talking new style then you will know that at high lvls tanks do huge amounts of damage constantly. Its the weapons upgrade it used to be the case that warriors held em with 2 8 dmg 24 dly yaks and that was taht...well now its different i use either a 10/18 crafted velium warsword and a 9/19 lammy or the sword and a 9/18 jade mace...thats massive dmg considering all my skills have gone up to the 240 mark and my equpipment an lvl mean i hit more often and harder...
Shadowknights can use now also
# Feb 08 2001 at 5:25 AM Rating: Default
Just got these yesterday in Velk's off a named Golem(name escapes me at the moment started with a B) and it is shadowknight usable now.
RE: Shadowknights can use now also
# Jun 09 2002 at 11:07 PM Rating: Default
I got a pair of these today for my warrior they dropped in EC for 12kpp.
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RE: Shadowknights can use now also
# Feb 16 2001 at 1:27 AM Rating: Default
Just curious as well, but can Iksar wear them? If so... woah...

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RE: Shadowknights can use now also
# Jan 28 2002 at 10:55 PM Rating: Default
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Yes they can, they dont look like plate when worn on an ogre.
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#Tallron, Posted: Feb 15 2001 at 8:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Verant is *FU**ED* UP! Shadowknights are WAY overpowered as it is. Hopefully soon, Paladins and Shadowknights will have Defense = to a Warrior's defense, which means a harsh increase of AC. Shadowknight's can outtaunt anyone, Feign Death, Fear, DoT, etc etc ETC! They get *countless* weapons that are SHD only or WAR SHD or something gay like that. They get superior ratio weapons and armor to Paladins. Verant is totally totally messing up the very thin balance between Shadowknights and Paladins (if one even existed). I'd withdraw this statement if I ever see any WAR PAL or PAL only greaves with >>>36<<< AC (I probably won't though know Verant and they're ***** *** idea of the "Roleplay" Paladin...might as well dress Paladins in god damn Raw-hide).
RE: Verant...oh man
# Oct 18 2001 at 7:28 AM Rating: Default
Lol! Way overpowered? Not yet,but I am only 53.Anyways I am most usefull in small groups or situations where an enchanter is not needed.In raids I am not allowed to taunt even though Shadow nights taunt great(and rightly so war has the disciplines and hps to make healing him more mana efficient).In groups where an enchanter is needed I can't use half my spells as they won't allow mez or won't stack with chanter buffs.So in a raid or enchanter group I am basically a low dmg warrior.This is why SKs get to be as you call it "Way overpowered".I have alot of other abilities that help in a group but they are shared by other classes who do them better.I am not whining I love my SK more than any other character I play and after the new dmg tables I really think the only improvement needed for my class is a few more group friendly spells.Maybe like the shroud line.Steal ac for the group would be cool :)

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53 Reaver
Kryindel Maijhen
48 druid
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#umrag, Posted: May 21 2001 at 8:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well maybe you shouldn't have been a sorry @#% paladin...oh yeah don't forget paladins can heal out the waz almost better than druids, have LoH which is 2468214610987489574524 times better than HT, and also get a rez...wow paladins really suck...blah blah blah....
Who drops these?
# Jan 11 2001 at 1:17 AM Rating: Default
Well... who does?
RE: Who drops these?
# Mar 20 2001 at 2:57 PM Rating: Default
Golem, can spawn in any of the golem spots
Have had 2 Bledrek's spawn in a single Cycle also (Oof that kinda hurt)

Bled. 55'ish miniGolem hits for 300'some

Spawns after killing Bledrek, who also hit in the upper 300's

Got several pairs up near Vleks area.. Suggested 2 groups 55+, or 1 with an ungodly puller

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Weight
# Dec 21 2000 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Look at the weight on this. Im glad its not - strength
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des no be cursed
# Dec 20 2000 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
Des legs be real gud gud legs for warriors. Me tink yous takin too much crack frum dem chanters. Warriors needs da high ac, no need stats as much. And yous just luk at what it take off, -5agi -5dex, dat nuttin, dat just 1 plat bp ring, nuttin at all. Me would love to have des. So if anyone on bristlebane have dem and tink dem cursed, yous find me, me Mordreth, yous give dem to me, me be happy den. 36ac -5dex -5agi not curse it a blessing! Everyone know des be warrior armors, even if dem can be used by uddas, luk who da main warrior races be, not elfies, not halflings, not dwarves, dem be trolls, ogres and barbarians. We be da powerhouses, what care us if we lose 5agi and dex, we get nice legs!
RE: des no be cursed
# Feb 04 2003 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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And mees tink joos a dam idiot. What makes you think a butt ugly Troll, a dentally impaired Ogre, and a stinkin **** Barbarian make the best Warriors? It is peeps like you that think STR is the only stat that matters, well hate to be the one that informs you of this, but you are wrong. STR is good to have, and I'm glad I have 252 STR, but it is by far not the most important stat for a Warrior. Try a little Stamina for HP, or a little Agility for AC. Those 2 stats are the most important for a Warrior, they are the reason we are chosen for Tanking. With them you get hit for less damage and your health aint falling so fast cause you got more of it, Clerics will love you for these 2. And as far as who is the best warrior, I vote for the DWARF.

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RE: des no be cursed
# May 15 2001 at 1:57 AM Rating: Default
dex is used for crits and crips, not just for proccing weapons. As far as monks vs. rogue damage, a rogue with double backstab will outdamage a monk anyday if the tank can keep the mob's attention, which is his job.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 10 2001 at 11:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) uh, you mention that others can use it? Look closely friend; warrior only.
RE: des no be cursed
# Jan 07 2001 at 8:59 PM Rating: Default
i agree except for the part about trolls/ogres/barbs being main warriors. iksars can hold their own and quite well you should know. sure they arent as strong as the barbs, trolls, or warriors, but who cares? a warriors job is not to do damage, its to take damage. flame all you want, but leave the damage output to the monks and rogues.
these legs let you take damage (or absorb damage i guess) and quite well. -5agi and -5dex is nothing compared to 36ac and an extra 25hp. for my iksar, helm of rile offsets the -5agi and i dont use any proc'ing weapons so who cares about dex. these legs own and dont let anyone tell you otherwise!
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 16 2001 at 1:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) umm for the guy who thinks warriors dont need to do damage.... how else are you gonna tank somethin if you cant agro it enough to hit you??
#yeojmav, Posted: Jan 28 2002 at 10:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) with that cute taunt button.....
RE: des no be cursed
# Jan 10 2001 at 11:46 AM Rating: Default
monks yes, rougues no...rogues backstab is good WHEN you are behind the creature, and since backstabbing will make the creature aggro you, you are constantly circling around creatures to get behind them. Not as efficient as monks.
RE: des no be cursed
# May 04 2002 at 2:18 AM Rating: Good
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FYI I love a good monk, But Rogues are the top melee damage dealers in game, plain and simple. For pure melee the order is as follows... Rogue, Monk, Warrior, Ranger, Pally/SK, Bard. That of course is not taking into consideration the hybrid spells which when used correctly can bring Rangers/SK's about even with a Warrior. All of the classes have a purpose, they are all usefull. Play what you want, dont let others tell you it was a bad choice, and try to remember... Its just a game.

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RE: des no be cursed
# Apr 17 2002 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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You need to group with better main tanks. Rogues are the best melee damage class in the game period!
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 04 2001 at 11:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rangers do good dmg.
Semi-cursed items like this seem to be common on Velious...
# Dec 20 2000 at 4:03 PM Rating: Good
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Seems like quite a few items found on Velious have really good stats... and also really bad stats. For instance, an Ulthork hide tunic, wearable by leather-using classes, has +3wis and +35mana, but also has -5cha and -35hp.
RE: Semi-cursed items like this seem to be common on Velious
# Dec 20 2000 at 5:31 PM Rating: Default
cursed my a$$, fungi tunic, and Mrylokar greaves both have negative stats on em, and they come from Koonark :P
RE: Semi-cursed items like this seem to be common on Velious
# Jan 04 2001 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
Don't forget the mask from Kunark thats AC 1 -20 cha.
RE: Semi-cursed items like this seem to be common on Velious
# Feb 04 2001 at 6:08 AM Rating: Default
Cursed? with 36 ac it seems these pants are blessed. :)
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 07 2001 at 9:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) are you talking about the iksar pariah mask? if so then its 5ac, -25cha. my iksar warrior loves his mask, wears it all the time. so what if my cha is now 30? i lost so much money selling stuff to vendors from 50cha i hardly notice loosing any more by having a 30. the 5ac and 0.5wt make up for that easily.
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