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Silvery Belt of Contention  
 

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Slot: WAIST
AC: 10
STA: +4 WIS: +5 INT: +5
Haste: +21%
WT: 0.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:250 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:1641
Submitted By:Ishmar Tedronai
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-12-11 04:17:48
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious


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Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 1:19 AM Rating: Default
very very bad idea for a belt.. mele will be pissed when a caster wants to roll on a haste belt and loot ***** castesr will be pissed if they dont get to roll on a belt that gives them 5int or 5wis and sta when there are much better belts for casters at this level
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 11:27 AM Rating: Default
Random is lame anyway. If you use that to pass out loot then you deserve the petty arguments which is causes.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 2:00 AM Rating: Default
Harl, you are obviously a melee type. Tanks are the biggest "loot whores" in the game. "Need before greed" is abused by tanks who confuse "need" with "can equip". As a lvl 55 Enchanter, I currently use AC 10 belt with no stats. Adding +5 sta and +5 int is a great bonus.
There are many haste items in the game, but few AC 10 belts with +5 int.

Morphius 55 Enchanter
RE: harl
# Dec 21 2000 at 7:47 AM Rating: Excellent
For the record, I'm a cleric who would dearly love this belt. I was also the guild leader of the raid. I told the warrior to loot it, as he needed the haste item the most. Ideally, it'd be hybrids, monks, warriors, clerics or enchanters, anyone else. The Fear belt is close to as good for clerics, and no other non-melee class (with the possible exception of enchanters) really needs the huge 10 ac. Giving this to anyone but a melee class is a sin.
Finnien, Crusaders of Plilo
RE: harl
# Dec 26 2000 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
Sorry to disagree with ya Finnien. Though i am a very rare type of druid (the Melee sort) I have found it quite fun to figure out how to make him viable in battle. Have I been successful? I believe so. Here you have a Halfling druid who hits( in Melee) for up to 69 points of damage, whose Damage shield does another 20 when the mob hits him. and with a dex of 118 can still get the majority of his DD spells off( Calification" 445 Damage). His other Stats are STR149,STA104, AGI 113,DEX118,WIS164. If someone thinks that 164 Wisdom will wind up killing me ask the GM who stood and watched me,Kamakazi Kite my first HG solo at level 35. This belt and any other item in the game is there for any class to use it if they can equip it. I for one don't think it would be a "sin" to boost my stamina and Wisdom, plus add 5 to my AC over the belt I already have. Then again most folks think of Druids as Almost a pure caster,even then the few points this belt adds to their hitpoints may save their life someday.
Respectfully,

Sullivyn Briarthorn
Terri-Thule Server
RE: harl
# Feb 23 2001 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
OK! first: i have met some real pain in the *** casters. all i ever hear is,"i dont wanna port, it wastes mana and time." tell me exactly when the hell mana became a non-renewable resource! and god f***in forbid you take some damn time out and help someone save themselves from a long dangerous, journey.jesus christ! but casters arent all bad. i have also met some damned selfish melee's.like ninja looters and the sort. need before greed should NEVER be abused. i get sick when a f***in twink war w/ full crafted wants to loot all the melee items a group gets. like they're gods gift to norrath. rarely i meet someone who is nice, or not selfish. second: this belt is designed for both melee and caster, other wise there wouldnt be 5 int/wis. if it were melee designed there might be int or wis, jus not so much as to put emphasis on it. the fact its a haste item screams out "melee, melee" 'cuase a caster hasnt got a need for haste(notice i said need instead of desire) melee's do, because thats their output for dmg. its common sense! they do, however, need the int/wis
*on a side note, consider this, LIKE THERE AREN'T 50,000 other equally melee useful haste items. and some of you casters are talking like this is the best item to have! granted,its good, but there are others! no need to be selfish! need is NOT class specific. its money/item specific. a dru with crap items his whole life needs this. a war fully twinked DOES NOT. And vice versa.thats jus my opinion, i could be wrong, and monkies might suddenly grow wings, and begin flying around and talking in british accents.<p.s. its a game!> my name is masbeth on innoruuk, look me up if ya wanna continue the discussion.all hail the almighty cheese danish.
RE: harl OH YEAH
# Feb 23 2001 at 11:07 PM Rating: Default
a dru who likes to melee might consider a rng, but the rest of you, where the hell do you get off saying hes dumb for playing a certain way? last i checked, people were allowed to have opinions and move about freely in eq! IMPORTANT: eq is NOT i repeat NOT about playing the best suited role. its about playing the hardest role well! i.e. a troll shaman, gnome/dark elf warrior,etc. otherwise you'd see nothing but a bunch of ogre warriors teaming up with high elf clerics letting erudite wizards dish the damage! there's always gonna be a best race for a class, but a challenging one, now thats someone who knows the essence of eq. peace out.
RE: harl
# Jan 04 2001 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent
So because you choose to do 69 points of damage every few seconds, instead of medding for a 445 point nuke, you want a belt that boosts that 69 points of damage you do overall by maybe %3, instead of giving it to a tank, where they will gain 10 raw AC over a FBSS, and gain more than %25 damage output.

Yes, that's greedy. 5 wis is not worth the %20 or so extra damage output over an FBSS, not to mention the AC, as well as the Sta bonus, which is FAR more useful to a tank than a wannabe melee druid.
RE: harl
# Jan 04 2001 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
ROFLMAO

Gain a few lvls and some playing exp at 50+ before you post about 50+ items.
RE: harl
# Dec 29 2000 at 11:31 PM Rating: Default
your just a moron, Sullivyn..... u need to go for pure wisdom untill u get 200 because it adds ALOT of mana to your max mana...any druid who picks STR/dex/sta/agi over wisdom is a pure idiot and STR doesnt help meleeing much anyway.. dex doesnt do anything but make u learn offencive skills faster and for rogues it helps BS and other roguish skills and helps your weapon proc, agil boosts AC a bit and makes u learn stuff like dodge faster, and sta adds to HP by a small ammount...........................................................................................................
RE: harl
# Feb 01 2001 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
Well.
Your not exactly correct on your assumptions in this.
I play a shaman.. a pre know what to do shaman at that. I enjoy helping the tanks out with some damage and can deal a hefty 86p strike.. I am not a meelee class but can meelee.. Dex helps out in alot of things. personaly I have seen procs like the frikkin energizer bunny with a high dex and int is the only skill learning stat. this belt is good for all classes.. no one class is going to be better off.. we all play our own ways.. if you want to call someone moron because they wish to have fun in there own way instead of filling a mold. You might want to re-prioritize the idea of games. Would i give this to a tank.. Probably.. would i want one for myself.. Definately.
and stamina is also a fundimental of lasting longer in a fight..
RE: harl
# Dec 21 2000 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
OK Wich Giant Droped it?... What about Level, and is it possible to take down on just one group?
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
Sure, i could see an arguement that this is one of the highest int belts in the game, but ac? wtf?

AC is useless for an int caster. I'd like to see you get over the 800 ac threshold that stops you being hit for max damage 70% of the time :P

maybe you should drop that 10 ac belt and go get a one of those el cheapo 3 int belts from guk :P
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 2:40 PM Rating: Default
-smirks- And when that "loot *****" ( as you so affectionately put it) Enchanter is getting his **** beat on that 10 AC is going to help save your twyked tank butt because he is charming the mob you pulled badly to the group. The casters need that ac just as badly as the tanks. Their spells put off worse taunts then your hotkey and if the casters are not there to back up your whinny butt then your all going to be doing a long CR.
RE: harl
# Jan 20 2001 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
Any caster that thinks they need AC as badly as tanks do is the dumbest ************ in the world.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 9:46 PM Rating: Default
I never seen to have a problem tauntin a mob off a caster. Espically a chanter, they usually are able to get a stun off. This item is one of the few items everyone wants(includin my drooling self). To argue over such a belt is pointless and personally(if i were a caster) i would rather have a int belt then an ac belt. But that is me

Dinadin Ironforge
41 Holy Warrior of Brell
RE: harl
# Feb 21 2001 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
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psst!

Hey, Dinadin, in case you hadn't noticed this IS an int belt!

:)

It also has wisdom, AC, stamina, a haste proc ... and it doesn't weight anything so even a MONK will want it. This is, simply put, a darn nice item for every single class in the game.

:)
RE: harl
# Dec 20 2000 at 9:58 AM Rating: Default
well stun is the last thing a chanter wants to do when they are gettin hit stun is almost double the taunt on mobs lvl 50+ everyone wants the chanter to toss tash on the mobs these days especialy with vellious mobs bieng so highly magic resistant.and tash will out taunt any dual lamination blade weilding haste belt wearing tank in the game
RE: harl
# Dec 29 2000 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
My God their are way to many morons in this game. I being a druid know from exp that WARS sux0r at taunting mobs off and most of them are to busy seeing how much dmg they are doing that they forget to even try to taunt. Rangers on the other hand are the masters of taunt and they have even more need for this belt then any lamo War. There is no challange in playing a war you just stand there and swing away and watch everyone die around you.
rofl
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:10 AM Rating: Default
considering ranger's incapacity to tank efficiently I don't think it's a good idea to help them taunting more. They are already cleric's mana suckers so please leave AC / Haste to those who really need to taunt, tank or deal damages i.e. warriors, paladins, SKs, monks and rogues, thanks.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 24 2000 at 8:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) U can't dual wield the lamentation blade its 2hs. also not to be harsh but u suck without tanks. tanks suck without u no one is better no one is worse its just a combo that u need. also if u controlled your spells properly and waited for the monsters to really hate the tanks then perhaps they wouldn't attack u. I've seen it 1000 times i go pull something bring it back and before i can even press taunt there goes that stupid caster bam bam bam oh and u wonder why he attacked u.
RE: Idiot
# Dec 25 2000 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default
I cannot beleive this argument--any caster who rolled or tried to claim a sweet high AC/haste item over a meelee type would never group or guild with me again. Haste is the rarest of stats, and any caster who would greedily hog such an item based on other, more common stats deserves to never have a mob taunted off him again. BTW, you do realize that the faster a meelee hits the better he taunts?
RE: Idiot
# Jan 05 2001 at 12:47 AM Rating: Default
Hold on a minute! Other easy to get stats?!!! Name one belt that a Druid can wear that gives +5 wisdom... Hmm let's see here. Oh yes all you druids to Dagnors Cauldron and spend the next week hoping you will see Bilge Farfathom! Get a clue. Yes this is a wonderful haste item but you know what? I can think of way more than just one haste item for that tank. I think I'm unbias on this as I play a level 49 warrior (with swirlspine belt) and a level 51 druid. Haste items are a dime a dozen as opposed to a good wis increasing belt. Oh and by the way there are still only 3 belts game wide that increase Wis for a druid.
RE: Idiot
# Jan 15 2001 at 8:02 AM Rating: Default
Yes you are still a moron. Get a clue. Go camp the north wing of Charasis. You will probly get a few mucilaginous girdles before your group leaves. Any haste+AC item should NEVER go to a non melee.
opinion
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:28 AM Rating: Decent
and btw casters able to get this belt (i.e. able to fight in Kael's arena / TR ) are already maxed in Wis / Int and definately don't need anything beside their Velious armor and maybe their epic.
So in the most improbable case a caster would roll on it, check out on his melee twinks or his auctions a few days later...Indeed I've been in a group in Sebilis with 3 melee types and a RBG dropped. The magician decided to roll on it and he won it. Frankly in those case the only solution if you are a tank is *** train the caster's head and zone out***.
Thing that casters cannot understand since they are always arguing that they need to make money
is that good Haste items are the rarest things in game and I've been without one until lvl 58th so I know what I'm talking about (don't tell me about the crappy FBSS that a true tank should never get equiped). Without a **good** haste items, 55+ lvl mobs are almost untauntable (check out in Kael :p) even with the best weapon. And don't come to tell me warriors are always looking at the damages they are dealing rather than taunting the mob out of you, we do what we can with the stuff we have. As a matter of fact, if a caster with average stuff can still be efficient at high lvl, a warrior with lvl 50 stuff won't be able to tank or taunt on 55+ mobs. so maybe are we always looking for stuff, but that's because it's our only way to efficiency i.e. being able to do our job : tanking and taunting. And don't come to tell me that a ranger can tank the mobs I am tanking in Kael (reminder Captain hits for double 250 without defensive deisc. and average arena mob hits for double / triple 203, now, look at your ranger's HPs and AC and the fact they don't have our defensive skill and look at your cleric's mana at the end of the fight if the ranger is still alive). I'm not saying that ranger are useless, I'm saying they are not tanks and they should not taunt better than a warrior. They are incredibly good dual wielders, so usefull in a group but they will never stand before a tank. So now grow up a bit, get some post-55 levels and come back to tell me about it.

lvl 58th warrior on Terris-Thule Server
LOL
# Dec 26 2000 at 7:26 AM Rating: Default
First of all I think the guy was referring to Lamentations and they are 1hs. Anyway, if it's haste it goes to melee other than bards if the haste is real good. There is no argument. A caster will not make a difference having that extra AC because casters aren't built to take damage. If anyone has been playing this game long, it's pretty much fact. Blame it on Verant for ******** up the AC stat. By the way, you could use that argument there aren't many belts that give 5 int for casters. Here's another thing to remember, Haste is one of the hardest bonuses to get. Speed means everything to a melee class combining items and enchanter buffs. ANY CASTER can easily get up to 200 int with the exception of maybe humans. This goes the same for you wisdom users. Yes there are a few haste items out there but no way in comparison to the amount of int items for casters. This item is for melee, plain and simple.
RE: LOL
# Dec 26 2000 at 11:23 PM Rating: Default

Well, I guess you include Melee druids. I am more of a Hybrid then anything. My Stats, Weapon and armor choices have allowed me to melee pretty well and I still do at level 47. My combination of buffs(which for druid are pretty much geared to fight or Run options), armor and weapons have tanks asking me on a regular basis how the heck I am hitting for almost 70 points of damage in melee(69 being my top end...so far), If you think about it I may not hit as fast but add a damage shield/Coat combo buff that does 29 damage when a mob hits me. Ensnare, Chloroplast,SOW and Greater Heal so that I can get some distance now and then gain about 500 hit points back and go back in and wail some more. A 445 DD spell that acts like a super critical hit and you start realizing that I may not be able to stand toe to toe with any warrior of comperable level but I sure am able to add an amazing amount of damage to a fight even when low on mana. In a bad spot the ability to melee similar to a warrior about 10 levels below me may be all it takes to turn a bad pull around.

Respectfully

Sullivyn Briarthorn
Hairfoot Melee Druid
RE: LOL
# Dec 27 2000 at 7:13 PM Rating: Default
Well, if good haste items were easy to obtain, I would be all for druids having them. But they are not, esepcially haste items that also have 10 ac. So if you, as a druid, have a belt like this, odds are the tank in your group does not. It would do him more benefit than you, plain and simple. Sure, a druid can contribute greatly to any fight, but mostly via spells, which haste does not effect.

And I am happy for you that you can still meelee at 47, but I bet you are not being the primary tank against mobs anywhere near your level. Go to old sebilis, where every from hits for well over 100, going to be double hits most of the time, and not going to miss because you don't have 900+ AC (and never will no matter how much ac gear you get) and see how long you stand and fight without a tank doing the damage for you.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 02 2001 at 9:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) To the druid tanker. You make me laugh. Your defensive skills are SO low that you would die in 5 seconds fighting (if you can even call it that) those high level giants in Kael. You are a fool to think otherwise. You offensive fighting skills are likewise capped so low that your damage output is laughable (at best). Please dont insult our intelligence.
RE: LOL
# Feb 21 2001 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Haste? Yes, haste is nice for a melee type, but this is also a wisdom belt that wisdom casters will possitively drool over, and it is also an intelligence belt that will have the robe wearing caster classes eye's bugging out.

The simple fact is that almost EVERYBODY will want one of these. Anybody who thinks that one class or another should have special dibs on such an item based on just one of its stats is being too short sighted.

Melee classes who think this is just for them overlook the fact that wis and int belts like this are VERY rare. They whine about how a high level enchanter doesn't need haste, but overlook the fact that an enchanter or a necro or a wizard or a mage could very definitely use the 5 int as well as the fact that the druids, shaman and clerics can use the 5 wis. It allows them to max out their int/wis at 200 and use other slots for mana items.

The melee type says "but they aren't using the haste!" The caster replies "And you aren't using the wis or int."

Get over the fact that when one of these drops nearly everybody is going to want to have a chance for it.

Really.

Expect few exceptions.
rofl
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:40 AM Rating: Default
seriously I've heard this before...
Druid rolling on a jade mace because it was ALL/ALL and he could use it, magician rolling on a RBG because he wanted it. At lvl 40 my cleric twink is already wisdom maxed, got a pretty good AC (850) and mana additions (up to 200). I don't see why a lvl 55 + caster would roll on this belt besides to make money. Ok you will replace one of your wis/int items by a mana item which will grant you 50 to 100 more mana... how usefull on spells with 300 mana + casting coasts like those we are using in Kael and which will give you a nice agro while your warrior won't be able to taunt it off you for he doesn't have a good Haste item.
And to the druid meleer I'm on your server, don't even think to be grouped with me if I see you meleing things all the fights and rolling on melee stuff.

58th warrior on TT server
RE: rofl
# Apr 26 2001 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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>> I don't see why a lvl 55+ caster would roll on this belt besides to make money. <<

Well, in the first place I don't think we ought to restrict the conversation to 55+ level casters. Characters several levels below that might well be on runs into parts of Kael where this might drop.

In the second place, it happens to be a very, very nice belt for most of the caster classes and not everybody who plays a caster class character up to the levels where this item is attainable will have a better item than this in their waist slot. That means they would have just as much right to roll on it as anybody else on the raid.

You'll just have to get over that.

RE: LOL
# Jan 02 2001 at 9:22 AM Rating: Default
Well who gets in on this belt depends greatly on the haste percent. Any tank high enough to be fighting in Kael is already gonna have a high end haste item unless their Ebay,even then they probably still have one. But,being my main is a 55 shaman who actually tanks I have to say that this is the best possible belt I can use..10ac +haste without losing AC rocks.
RE: LOL
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:44 AM Rating: Default
Rofl open you eyes. I know many 55+ tanks who don't have any good Haste item (I.e. 20% + HAste and decent AC) and I couldn't get one before the 58th lvl and I've killed maybe 10000 Krups in OS.
To be honest check out your tank's stuff before claiming on the loot.

RE: LOL
# Feb 17 2001 at 5:56 PM Rating: Default
well then why not take it one step further? sure for melee types but say you have a ranger and a warrior in same group... who can use it more? Answer: RANGER high ac, haste + wis, makes this more important to a ranger then to the warrior


so in conclusion THIS IS A HYBRID belt, not caster not tank...

yes casters can get to 200 easy, and tanks can get ac easy so ...RANGER!!! all the way hehe or SK or PAL
ridiculous
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:47 AM Rating: Default
ok give it to your ranger and watch him die while the tank is unable to taunt off him, then die yourself because the cleric is OOM. If you want to give it to a pal or SK it will balance the fact they don't have dual wield while granting more attack speed but give it to the ranger who is already the best agroer and he will become a dead ranger.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 4:02 AM Rating: Default
Heh, Cloak of Piety - belt form.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 19 2000 at 4:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) there is better belt for casters at this level???? then tell me WTF it is you hoe
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 7:27 AM Rating: Default
Are there any better belts for melee characters than this belt? Short of Plane of Sky items i don't think there is. I think the main point of the post was that it was a bad idea to make a belt that would be highly sought after by EVERY class in the game. Oh, BTW, its also weightless. Nice for monks too.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
He he. I know personally a monk that will instantly /duel anyone willing to random against him for this belt. Even if haste is 1%.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
Yes there is a better belt for melees than this one ... its called Runebranded Girdle ... 8 Str/Dex/Agi i think ...

And for casters there is no better belt than dracos belt atm ... 75 mana and hp cant be beaten ... granted its only 4 AC, but you cant get into the ranges of a tank AC anyway.

Eadana
55th level enchantress
Bristlebane
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 9:20 AM Rating: Default
Agree with Eadana, only caster belt better than this currently discovered in game is bone clasped girdle from Dracoliche in PoF.
easier
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:49 AM Rating: Default
...And btw Dracoliche belt is easier to get than this one. Come fight in Kael and try to get one.
And btw RBG is one of the rarest things I've seen in OS and often rolled by casters so extremely hard to get.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
All these people complaining about a caster getting a haste item... remember one thing.. haste items do NOT stack, 1 haste item and spells do, but 2 haste items will not work togethor. And odds are if you are in Kael..... you already have a haste item, and you would most likely either use this if it was better and sell your old one, or sell this. I agree with the chanter earlier up, melee types use the need before greed argument far too often, I am still using a some belt I got at level 15 on my 50 wiz, this belt would be a welcome, haste or no haste.

strange
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:53 AM Rating: Default
strange thing how you casters think that if we are fighting in Kael we already have a good HAste item. The answer is NO, as a lvl 58 warrior I had no good HAste item and I was fighting in Kael with 3 other 55 + warriors who didn't have either any **good** HAste item. We are always plagued by this kind of behaviour, casters thinking we don't need stuff because we are high lvl wether they could get your tank stuff to buy their spells (seen a 60 necro selling a RBG to get his pet).
Ok we don't need stuff but then you don't need mobs to be taunted of you.Enjoy your belt.

58th warrior on TT server
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 1:27 PM Rating: Default
Say somethings really wrong here... Verant forgot to exclude fattie shaman from a wis belt that isnt a planes drop! Hee hee. Should have been called belt of the contended over LOL
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 1:34 PM Rating: Default
or belt of the coveted
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 3:18 PM Rating: Default
this guy realy doesnt know a thing i hav never seen a better belt for a caster and melee classes dont need any of the stats on it but the stam you might as well us a FBSS this is the best belt for casters aroun (chanter with this and rod of anialation could actualy hold there own in PvP meleeing) ...PS my wiz will hav one at all costs
LoL
# Feb 28 2001 at 4:56 AM Rating: Default
Rofl Rofl ok I would love fighting in Kael with a crappy FBSS with no AC and crappy Haste. As warriors we are of course not in need of AC and we dont need HAste because we don't need to taunt of you and to tank, correct?
RE: harl
# Jan 20 2001 at 10:42 AM Rating: Default
Ha ha, then you are a dumbass. I hope you nor any other loot ***** casters ever get one. Chances are that the mob who drops this requires a group to get to and you wont find many pick up groups going this deep into Kael. This pretty much only leaves the option of going with guildmates. No self respecting tanks would suffer seeing the likes of you getting this item before they do. Get a clue.
Melee types don't need??
# Dec 19 2000 at 11:14 PM Rating: Default
Have you heard of Paladins,Rangers,and Shadowknights? They are melee types and this belt would be awesome for them. Great AC, Haste, plus a bump for their mana pools.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
Well Id have to disagree on the pointthat casters should have this over melee because atm there are not many belts if any that have better ac + haste and melee always need ac before stats..and RBB is only ac 5, so unless the haste on Contention is crap then Id take it over RBB any day.
I also think this need for greed argument by casters is gettin a lil out of hand....its wearable by all and helps anyone who wears it..therefor it should be randomed between everyone. Besides its should be a grp decision unless you have a "loot *****" for a leader.

just my 2cp
Icie 51st Pathfinder of Prexus
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
Well, they aptly named this item :P I play both a high level caster and a high level tank and to tell you the trueth, if I only had one of these belts I would have no clue which charicter I would put it on.
RE: harl
# Jan 01 2001 at 11:30 AM Rating: Default
I'd give it to my Paladin over my Cleric any day of the week. I'd give it to a Ranger over a Druid, a Shadowknight over a Necro.

As someone said, this is a Hybrid's dream item, and should be treated as such.

If, heaven forbid, I ever got this item... it would immediately be passed down to my Paladin.

Angelsyn Whitewings
Cleric of Tunare for Thirtyfour seasons.
RE: harl
# Jan 18 2001 at 11:36 AM Rating: Default
They certainly got the name right on the belt. As a 49 warrior who has yet to get a haste item( and no not an ebay) I would love to get this, in a guild raid I might be able to keep my mouth shut and let it go to a hybred as it is somewhat better for them with int and wis, but I doubt I could bring myself to be that generous. GIMME DAMN IT. As for it going to a caster in any situation but a pick up group, well lets just say I really don't see that happened without the tanks and monks getting way pissed.
RE: harl
# Dec 19 2000 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
aye as a caster yes we cant get the AC a true meelee class gets but ive seen manytimes when ive died just as the healer gets a heal off on me where the extra ac may just have saved my butt and as a chanter im sure the rest of my group would have preffered me to live because we all know what happens when the chanter dies during a 5+mob pull
RE: harl
# Feb 28 2001 at 5:00 AM Rating: Default
unless you get 950+ AC your extra AC won't be of any help on 55+ (even 50+) and I don't think you can reach 950 AC being a chanter.

Goodness!
# Dec 19 2000 at 12:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, so much for the FBSS, eh? hehe Anyone have information on the haste percentage? Seeing that all races and classes can wear it (and it's NOT no-drop!), the nice stat boosts, and good AC, I foresee some HUGE asking prices for this nice item.
RE: Goodness!
# Dec 19 2000 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
Aaaaww That is my favorite movie too.. -chuckles-

Of course I am sure Varent will say soon enough.. "What! You mean we actually put something in game everyone can use and made it a common drop!" And then take an 11 hour patch to nerf it -winks-
RE: Goodness!
# Dec 19 2000 at 5:55 AM Rating: Default
I timed one tonight, the haste effect is bugged as it's 0%.
RE: Goodness!
# Dec 19 2000 at 5:48 AM Rating: Default
Let's be real.

If there's a Ranger, Paladin or ShadowKnight in my group when this drops, they're the ones who should have it the most.

If you're actually killing the giants in Kael, you've got to have reached the 200 Wis/Int cap already.
RE: Goodness!
# Jan 06 2001 at 4:02 PM Rating: Default
Not necessarily, shamans start as low Wis races to begin with, 10 ac and another 5 wis would help alot
RE: Goodness!
# Dec 19 2000 at 12:34 AM Rating: Default
hehe who cares about the haste plus 5 wis belt and 5 int and ac 10... can we say every caster in the world going to want this.. hehe

any ways laters
About damn time..
# Dec 19 2000 at 3:39 AM Rating: Default
the FBSS has been WAY OVER PRICED FOR TOO FORKIN' LONG!

Finally something other than that damn Guk belt.

I see the FBSS going down to 3kish very soon as more of these belts get discovered. Better sell your FBSS now!!!
RE: About damn time..
# Dec 19 2000 at 4:07 AM Rating: Default
As far as driving down the price of the FBSS..

Sash of the Dragonborn, Rune Banded Girdle, and Seblisian Beserker Cloak have all been dropping for some time now. Although their prices are insane (25kish for DB, 50kish for RBG, and 100k+ish for SBC), the FBSS has been holding steady. Simply put, DB, RBG, and SBC, although normal mob drops, are so increadibly rare that the FBSS is still the easiest Haste to come by by a LONG shot.

Only way this will affect the FBSS price is if it is fairly easy to obtain. I suspect its on or past that giant guy beyond the icewall tho that hits for 800+ a hit and makes Trakanon look like a Lizard Broodling.
RE: About damn time..
# Dec 21 2000 at 7:44 AM Rating: Default
This belt was off of one of the guards around the arena on the way to the temple in Kael Drakkan. He could be killed with two groups, but we've been there three times and only seen one, and it was not off a named mob. So, unfortunately, I forsee this will follow the route of the Seb Berzerker Cloak and the RBG.

Finnien
RE: About damn time..
# Dec 19 2000 at 5:40 AM Rating: Default
Rarity: Common. This have any truth to it? I need 2, one for me (54 ench) and one for my monk who currently has a FBSS.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 19 2000 at 8:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Idiot. What in hell does an enc need a haste item for? you planning on meleeing?
RE: About damn time..
# Dec 19 2000 at 10:28 PM Rating: Default
Hey Dorkus did you fail to notice the +5 int, and ac always helps
RE: About damn time..
# Jan 04 2001 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
Any Ench 50+ who doesn't have 200 Int already need to call E-bay and get their money back.

And the AC isn't THAT nice. You can get a 10AC belt for under 200pp on most servers. Haste? Not needed. Sta? Not NEARLY as usefull to Ench's as a tank. +5 int? Not a good reason to deprive a tank of a nice haste item that doesn't give up AC.
Rarities..
# Dec 19 2000 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
That's my major complain for the new database thing. The "default" rarity is labelled "common", not "unknown" as it should be.

Anything here that weights 0.0 may weight anything in fact, and anything labelled common means usually only one has ever been found.
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