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Gigantic Zweihander  

Skill: 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 39
DMG: 18 Dmg Bonus: 116
This item can be used in tradeskills.
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
WT: 10.0 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Lore:A Gigantic Zweihander
Item Type:2H Slashing
Light:Stein of Tears
Merchant Value:12 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-06-20 13:08:11
Page Updated:Sun Apr 8th, 2018
Classic Item

Average Price: 289pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 35

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GZ finally
# Mar 12 2015 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
It took 13 kills, but he finally dropped it.

From my original post, these are the mobs on his spawn cycle.

ice goblin whelp
an ice goblin scout
a polar bear cub
a snow leopard
a wooly mammoth calf
a polar bear
an orcish mountaineer
a large wooly spider
a snow orc trooper

The only one that seems unique to Karg is the polar bear cub. If you get "ice goblin whelp" you know you're either on his spawn cycle or Martar's. If Martar spawns, just leave him up. As far as the tracking issues, I found that if I went back to permafront entrance, sometimes the double, triple mobs that showed up on track about the same time resolved down to one. All of Karg's placeholders spawn between perma and Megan's tower, with a couple of spawn points out on the ridge just in front of the tower.

Don't expect it to be easy or quick. I've followed this line of kills for an hour with no luck on Karg and followed it for 5 minutes to spawn him. He's either a very rare part of it or has a lock out timer that says something, 1 Karg every x number of hours. Usually if I run the spawns for 20 or 30 minutes with no luck, I give up and come back several hours later.

Good luck.
ice goblin whelp - part 2
# Mar 11 2015 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Ok, an update. The "ice goblin whelp" is on both Karg and Martar's kill lines. I spawned both characters this morning after server update and have a screenshot with both on track.

11 Karg kils, no GZ. :(
ice goblin whelp leads to Karg
# Mar 09 2015 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I can confirm that the ice goblin whelp, not "an ice goblin whelp" leads to Karg if you kill that line of mobs. I have a screenshot of Megan killing the ice goblin whelp if you want it.

I don't know how much that's going to help GZ hunters. Here's why. When you arrive on the tundra, if the whelp isn't up, then trying to figure out the kill line is a royal pain.

These are the mobs on that line that I observed.

ice goblin whelp
an ice goblin scout
a polar bear cub
a snow leopard
a wooly mammoth calf
a polar bear
an orcish mountaineer
a large wooly spider
a snow orc trooper

potentially on the kill line
a mammoth calf
a white wolf

Not on the kill line
wooly mammoth
a snow orc shaman
a giant wooly spider
ice boned skeleton

Karg and Martar are on different lines, but some of the same mobs are on each other's lines.

If you sit in the dead spot in front of the platform where Redwind spawns and kill the mobs that walk across in front of it, you'll eventually spawn Martar and even rarer, Karg.

And it's; easy to lose the line. Between Tundra Jack, Iceberg, and Megan busily killing away, the tundra is in constant flux. You can follow the line for a while, but sooner or later, two or maybe even three mobs will spawn almost at the same instant. Tracking and killing more than one kill line is incredible difficult because the respawn is in seconds and seems to vary between as little as 4 or 5 seconds and 10 seconds.

I've spawned Karg 3 times using that method. Basically, I go out and kill mobs on his line until I see the "ice goblin whelp" spawn. Then I let things settle for a minute or two and then kill the ICW. Keep track on normal so you can see the next spawn. Keep track up while you're killing. It works best if you invis immediately after the kill to keep from getting orc agro. You don't want to kill indiscriminately. I just snare anything that agros. Eventually, they forget me.

10 Karg kills, no GZ. And even with a method, it's time consuming.
Addendum to Karg Part 2
# Mar 07 2015 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
First, "ice goblin whelp" is not on the bestiary, but I killed it numerous times today. Second, what clued me in to maybe this is different is the Frontier Mts goblin loop. In the southeast, one of the place holders is "a goblin raider" instead of the normal "goblin raider".

I read somewhere that Karg was supposedly an 8 hour spawn. I'll try this same method later to see if it pays off again.
Karg part 2
# Mar 07 2015 at 2:25 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Okay, I did find something. I went out today and decided to kill the types of mobs I thought had a link to Karg, namely the small stuff, polar bear cubs, ice goblin whelps and the like. That's where I noticed something different. On one of these kill lines, ice goblin whelp spawned, not an ice goblin whelp, just ice goblin whelp. So I killed it and followed it's line.

Mostly, they ran me back and forth between about 5 different spawn points. After about 5 minutes, Karg popped. I tried following that same line again and did for a while, but there's so much popping and re-popping on the tundra that I eventually lost it. I mean, when you have 3 mobs pop within a second of each other, which is yours?

Now, there are a ton of "an ice goblin whelp" mobs on the tundra, but that's the only ice goblin whelp I saw. I was able to confirm that if I kept the kill line straight, it spawned on that line of mobs.

The frustrating part about it is, Karg could be on that kill line, but also simply have a lock-out timer, meaning if you get it right and the timer has elapsed, there's a chance of him spawning. If not, you end up chasing the same mobs round and round - which is very hard out there since things are spawning all the time.
Recent Karg search
# Mar 04 2015 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I've been plopping a druid in Everfrost Peaks for a couple of weeks now. 6 karg kills and 0 zwiehanders.

But this is what I've noticed. There's a dead spot just in front of the platform where Redwind and the icy orcs spawn. I can spawn Martar by killing the mobs that cross in front of that platform. Now, the spawn rate is about 10 seconds. You kill one of those mobs, and you'll see its replacement pop back up within about 10 seconds. I noticed that because occasionally, Martar will respawn right after you kill him. In fact, I've seen him respawn 3 times in a row, the last time with two of his corpses scattered across the tundra.

So, what's that got to do with Karg? Well, I noticed on several of the Karg spawns, I'd just killed one of the mobs walking that same path. On my last Karg kill, I watched track and confirmed that a new mob popped up approximately 10 seconds after I killed him .I went around for a few minutes only killing the spawns off that cycle, but didn't have time to follow it through to see if I could eventually spawn Karg again.

One thing I did notice. His spawns included some of the lower end mobs in the zone, like an ice goblin whelp and a polar bear cub - the only whelp or cub out near the entrance to Perma.

So, maybe there is a cycle here. I'm determined to get my GZ. If I figure it out, I'll post an update.
same here
# Jan 17 2014 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
343 posts
ya same for me. took 3 weeks for him to pop tho ad not seenthe lower lev girl yet
GZ still dropping as of today
# May 31 2012 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
Just killed karg icebear or what ever his name is in EF and he dropped 2 x GZ's and the cloak of the icebear and a lightstone! so yeah if anyone is wondering he still drops this a decade later heh.
# Apr 21 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
It's used to make a "Worked Zweihander" by blacksmiths to make Deity specific weapons. The smithing combines can only be made by Trolls though.

Fearful Balanced Zweihander(Cazic-Thule):
Skill: 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 40
DMG: 34
STR: +10 STA: +5 HP: +50 Endurance: +20
Recommended level of 45
WT: 3.0 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Deity: Cazic Thule
Slot type 4:empty

Hateful Balanced Zweihander(Innoruuk):
Skill: 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 40
DMG: 34
STA: +5 HP: +50 MANA: +50 Endurance: +50
Recommended level of 45
WT: 3.0 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Deity: Innoruuk
Slot type 4:empty

Vengeful Balanced Zweihander(Rallos Zek):
Skill: 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 40
DMG: 34 AC: 10
STA: +5 HP: +50
Recommended level of 45
WT: 3.0 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Deity: Rallos Zek
Slot type 4:empty
Zweihander used in TS?
# Sep 09 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
Question, anyone know what TS this is used in? Maybe for an upgrade to it. Got like the 20Th one I have looted. Gave them away mostly and sold them long ago when they were worth something. The one I looted this last time said can be used in TS. I fnayone has any info, would appreciate it.

70 Spiritwalker
Latest pop.
# Nov 18 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
88 posts
He popped up today while kiting ice giants. nice drops.
# May 20 2004 at 1:39 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
Has anyone seen Karg lately? I was wondering if this still drops or if I am just wasting time.

35 Ranger
Dropped By Karg
# May 11 2002 at 12:39 AM Rating: Default
Karg Icebear drops it.... hes a rare-ish wandering spawn.. you'll need a tracker and some patience to find him...
yes it drops.
# May 02 2002 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
yes this drops off Karg.
Dropped today anyway .
# Jan 21 2002 at 3:15 AM Rating: Decent
Can anyone confirm that this is still dropped? Was told it was no longer dropped, but think the guy just wanted to get more than it's worth.

# Apr 05 2002 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
Yes, it still drops. I ran into Karg this morning while running from Permafrost. I asked him politely if he would mind me wearing his cloak for a while, and he seemed to have no problem with that. In fact he offered me his Zweihander, a fine steel 2-hander and a greater lightstone as well. I thanked him for his generosity and continued on my way.
# Jan 25 2002 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, it is still dropped. I got one yesterday, 1/24 for bringing down Karg Icebear. Got it along with Cloak of The Ice Bear, so it wasn't a bad haul for a yellow con. :)
Zweihander! Mein Fave!
# Sep 08 2001 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
Hehe... I got my GZ at level 9. I wasn't very dangerous w/it, but I do love it. I used it up to lev 23 and then got a BABS (which I also like)which is a better all around weapon. The question I have is 'how many are out there'? I can't find ANYONE on Cazic Thule server that knows anything about or owns one. I don't use it much anymore...but I hate to let go of it! Any experience Gigantic Zweihander Swingers out there?? :)
RE: Zweihander! Mein Fave!
# Sep 22 2001 at 6:32 PM Rating: Default
It is for rogue epic
who drops it
# Aug 10 2001 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
they say it is droped my multiple cretures what ones drop it?
e-mail me at if you know thanks
Only the Bear ?
# Jun 18 2001 at 8:58 PM Rating: Default
Is the Icebear the only mob that drops it ? i really want to know b/c i will get my butt kicked by him then.
# May 01 2001 at 4:31 PM Rating: Default
I got onee find it to be a good weapon for a lvl 15 I had the axe of the iron back and found that it hits really slower than the sword. I do not know if it is just me but I find that the sword allows double attack before I even get it. When I was using the axe it hit then enmie hit then i hit again.....well sometime with the sword i hit, anemy, then I hit twice don't know why but it happens. I do not have double attack don't get it for awhile so could someone explain this to me?
RE: sword
# Jun 03 2001 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
What that means is that your weapon is faster than whatever you were hitting. Think of the delay as a clock cycle. The lower the delay number, the faster the clock hits 0 again. Sometimes you will hit 0 twice in between the time it takes your target to go from Start to Restart or whatever.

Hope that helps you...
this weapon
# Apr 29 2001 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
You can sell for higher to a rogue doing his epic quest.
RE: this weapon
# Jan 10 2002 at 7:40 PM Rating: Default
Yeah, you could be a D*ck, or the rogue could go solo the guy and get it for free. Don't be a D*ck, just take what it is worth.
RE: this weapon
# Nov 03 2002 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
HAH tell that to all the jerks selling jade reavers for 15k+. before epics that sold for barely 500, which is about what it's worth, no more, maybe a bit less.
This weapon
# Apr 19 2001 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
I unfortunately made a bad trade for this... I didn't realize about the Runic Carver and I was disillusioned about the price from someone selling it for around 600 in EC the night before... Runic Carver sells for around 150-200 so I guess this would sell for less.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 15 2001 at 10:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Give me wepon now or i will **** and mone. Feed me sword. Sick of axes want a sword. Axe of the Iron back ok but me want this damn sword.
The Answer my Friends
# Jan 21 2001 at 2:12 AM Rating: Decent
This wonderful sword is indeed looted off the body of Karg Icebear. I think this is an excellent weapon, and it even better if you are in the right place at the right time when a high lvl character that already has 1 decides to let you loot karg... :) gotta love it
lvl 15 warrior
RE: The Answer my Friends
# Mar 01 2001 at 10:27 PM Rating: Default
well there is a better weapon out there it goes by the name of a Runic carver it is 18/37
Read For More Info...
# Jan 06 2001 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default
This is supposedly dropped by Krag Icebear in Everfrost. He is around level 35.
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