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Crystal Grinder  

Skill: 1H Piercing Atk Delay: 27
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 31 AC: 2
Backstab DMG: 9
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
WT: 2.5 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL except CLR DRU MNK BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:1H Piercing
Merchant Value:5 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Submitted By:Kozmo Arkanis
Lucy Entry By:Kheldar
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 08:34:11
Page Updated:Fri Dec 13th, 2019

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious

Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 40

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This item is found on creatures.

Crystal Caverns
NPC Name
a crystal crawler
a crystal grinder

Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Crystal Caverns

Uploaded September 10th, 2017 by Nniki
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backstab bonus
# Oct 23 2007 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
This item now has a backstab bonus of 9 points
what a great find!!!
# Nov 25 2002 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
I just found one of these on a merchant in Thurgadin on the Xev server. I bought it for about 9pp. Not bad. Thanks to whoever sold it there
Dragoon Dirk
# Jul 22 2002 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
Wouldn't a Dragoon Dirk (9/23) be better than this and easier to get? It even has stats far better than the CG's 2 AC.
RE: Dragoon Dirk
# Jul 31 2002 at 8:48 PM Rating: Decent
ahh dragoon dirks are 6/22....
# May 11 2002 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
i am on the nameless server if you have one for sale send me a tell

lvl 12 enchanter
# Jan 12 2002 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
The crystal grinder is beastlord user friendly
(they can equip it )
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 30 2001 at 1:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am selling my Crystal Grinder for 450pp if you want it send me an email at and I'll sell it to you.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 30 2001 at 1:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am selling my Crystal Grinder for 450pp if you want it send me an email at and I'll sell it to you.
Crystal Grinder MOB is common
# Dec 19 2001 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
I must say that this spawn is VERY common. My group of 35-40's were doing runs up the Geo ramp. When we finished we would make a push in towards the spiders. The named spider "a Crystal Grinder" was there every other run. Almost everyone in my group gots one by now. Not a bad weapon for 1-20 or so... I think I'll give it to my Bard.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 14 2001 at 12:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have one of these babes to sell on the Vallon zek server. Send me a tell with an offer to Zaliktiny Iceflow.
I receive this as a loner...
# Nov 12 2001 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
...from one of the higher ups in my guild.

As a Ranger, I cannot think of a better weapon to up my piercing skill (at a awful 16 while my 1HS is at a 120).
RE: I receive this as a loner...
# Nov 19 2001 at 4:13 AM Rating: Excellent
300 posts
There's a much better weapon if you just want to increase your piercing skill: fine steel dagger. They drop like candy in Highkeep. Get two of them, get into a group, and start hacking away. You won't do a ton of damage, but your skill will go up much faster so you can switch to a better piercing weapon, like the grinder. I did this when I was around level 26 or 27 in Highkeep. It took me 2 fine steel daggers and about 2 hours in a group to go from 0 to ~130 skill in piercing. Most groups won't mind it if you use the time (when low enough level) to just work on your skills. You can always switch out to your regular weapons if more damage is needed (if you get multiple pulls, etc).
Lore item
# Oct 02 2001 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
This is a Lore item.

That means you can not have two of these at once. Also they are a very, and I use that term losely, very common off the named spider with grinder in it's name. It is just odd coincidence that any were found in the npc merchant. The spider is just past the terrors if u take the trail to the right passed the hidden crawlers. once u take the right pasage ull have 2 bends and then ull see it sitting there. It is truely a good weapon with a good delay for primary if u carry a slow delay in secondary. (dual wielders only) I use it on my bard along with a giant militia long sword wich does 11/37 so my delay is negated due to the fact it is a follow up on the delay of my primary. Basicaly the primary delay speeds up my secondary delay, ignoring the weapons delay.
RE: Lore item
# Nov 13 2001 at 8:35 PM Rating: Decent
You are in error about your primary hand delay making your offhand delay lower. Consider this - If what you were saying were true - wouldn't everyone be using a 3/19 store bought dagger in your primary hand and a Green Jade Axe 17/34 in their offhand? If your theory were correct - this would make the GJA a 17/19 weapon - thus blowing the jade mace out of the entirely water... Your offhand is only as fast as your primary hand - and if the offhand delay is more than your primary hand, then your offhand only checks to swing every other round of battle because it's delay has not cycled yet.
RE: Lore item
# Jan 08 2002 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
Actually from everything I have seen, thats not right either. Primary and secondary melee delays are independent. If you hve a wurmslayer in primary, and one of these in secondary, the wurmslayer won't slow this weapon down. You will get a secondary check every 2.7 seconds. try it out. Put a really slow weapon in primary, and the fastest u can find in secondary, and watch the hits. It would be better to use a ranger, as I believe they get dual weild, but not double attck, so you can keep better track of the attack rolls. All you will need is one instance of two offhand attacks between primary attacks, and you will have verification that they are independent. Would work best with different classes of weapons in each hand (1hs and pierce) so there is no chance of mistaking an offhand attack for primary, or vice versa.

Anyway, this weapon would be very good to use to keep your piercing skill up, as long as it is not too low, but if skilling up fast is all u want, the other post is correct. 2 fast daggers would skill you up faster. I prefer this, as my skill is not that low, and this does way more damage, almost as good as my offhand 1hs.
# Sep 05 2001 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
OK so, I have this weapon for my second hand on my rogue, And the look of it is a bit strange I might say, like a sharpened triangle--I dont mind it but some people like it and some people hate it- but what i DO mind is the direction it is pointing in.. It should be facing upwards because when a character peirces their hand tilts downwards and with this weapon it looks like you are peircing the ground instead of the MOB.. Weird huh? Did anyone else notice this.. Or maybe its just on a wood elf. Its a good little weapon so I am not going to stop using it because of the graphic problems but it looks kind of silly!
RE: Graphic?
# Oct 13 2001 at 10:24 PM Rating: Default
I agree that it looks wierd, but this is modeled after a famous weapon called the katar, a single tirangular bald, kind of like a single claw from icetooth claws, but much wider at the botom, it owuld be untru to the real thing if it was aimed upwards.
RE: Graphic?
# Jan 23 2002 at 2:20 AM Rating: Decent
Looks like you're holding a slice of pizza =P
RE: Graphic?
# Nov 10 2001 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
the dude is right, the katar is a close combat weapon used in India.
selling several
# Aug 14 2001 at 5:28 AM Rating: Default
4 posts
to all you guys who did or want to sell several of these Grinders... like buying many off a vendor and selling back to people.. or the guy saying he had 4...

those grinders are lore! you cannot have more than one!
This would mean you have to camp that rare spawn over and over again.. not worth the trouble

Solusek Ro
42 magician
lvl 44 snail-footed magician, member of Stone Circle
Solusek Ro
grinders are great
# Jul 19 2001 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
i have one i bought for 150pp had it since lvl 12 now im 17 its a great wep
# Jul 17 2001 at 5:16 AM Rating: Default
Hehe, I just dinged to 13 on my Rogue, dual wield SWEET BEANS!, and I would LOOOOVE to have one of these, I've heard a bunch about them and how great they are from some friends and want one BAD! If anyone has one for sell for a good price or knows where I can go to get one at LVL 13, tell me! Im on Rathe, help me out, PLLLLLLEEEEASE
# Aug 30 2001 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
On my first trip to CC I one of those dropped off one crystal spider, or whatever the name. It was green to me. I picked it up, didnt know how much it was worth, or if it was good or not. If you ask me, its a nice weapon. Its nice that Int casters can use it, must be a great rogue/ranger item as well. Anyway, I gave it to a fellow guildie.
# Jun 04 2001 at 4:35 AM Rating: Default
hehe I bought one of these off a vendor tonight for 10pp! Not kidding, I about soiled my robe. Be sure to see what is for sale in CC next time you are there.
RE: Geeked
# Jun 13 2001 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
I picked up a crystal fiber (8/26 1hs, drops in same zone) for 35pp off a vendor. Upon further inspection (looking for other good deals off the dorf vendors) I also found a grinder for about 11pp. Makes for a nice dually combo on my level 5 warrior =).
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 18 2001 at 2:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok if ur right that will be sweet because i almost bought 1 for 300pp and if i can get 1 off a vendor for under 50pp thats a good deal cause ill buy a couple and sell for more
got it for free
# Jun 03 2001 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
i was omw to highhold pass in wc, and someone gave me this for free. I would have used it if I specialized in piercing, but im a 1hslash guy. i sold it for 700pp to someone within 10 minutes. i didnt even know it's worth. i told him i had velium round shield for sale but i needed to go to a bank. then i remembered i had a bunch of magic stuff that guy gave me, and he wanted the grinder. i would dream of it if i used piercing like i said, but i use 1hs.
RE: got it for free
# Aug 03 2001 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
well in general, it's good to work more than one skill. as a rogue i've found that having a 1hs or 1hb in my off will do wonders to keep my agro down, since im not a tank. as a ranger tho, look at all the Ykeshan stuff. im pretty sure there's a piercer with that proc. and they are right, there are some kick a$$ ranger piercers. all that aside, selling a gift? just the moral thing here but still....
now on the other hand, at your level trying to up piercing could turn out to be a real pain in the a$$. i suggest (i dont know the feasability not having a high level ranger hence suggestion) dual wielding a couple FS daggers or something and solo some low blues. also, it may cost some serious cash, but consider spending some of your unused practice points.

anyway just what i think on the matter...

feel free to criticize!

Failkan Blaackhand
Rogue of the 27th Dagger
Sanguine Blade

'OMG!! it's a naked halfling! RUN!!'
RE: got it for free
# Mar 05 2002 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
i agree, being able to use multiple weapon types is very important. as a 47 pally, i just spent 100 practice points and over 100 pp in piercing, it will pay for itself though as 2h piercing weaps are much cheaper than 2h slashers, as few people use them (centi warspears can now be bought for 300 pp on my server). as it happens, perhaps the best weap in the game is a 1h piercer for rangers only, flint etched something, it's 4 28 and procs a 650 dd.
RE: got it for free
# Jun 10 2001 at 5:31 PM Rating: Default
What's stopping you from starting to use piercing? Is there some bet you made with someone or a promise you made to your god that you wouldn't stab anything? I don't get it. You don't have much skill, so you can't raise it? What gives?
RE: got it for free
# Jun 04 2001 at 4:33 AM Rating: Default
That very nice of you to sell a gift within 10 minutes. I hope a lupine dagger drops for you someday and you can't use it, that would be poetic justice =)
RE: got it for free
# Aug 30 2001 at 8:08 AM Rating: Default
When you ask for a gift and then sell it within 10 minutes, I can understand you would be pissed. This guy obviously didnt have in mind to sell that thing until that guy showed up. Geeze, that was quite gratuitous.
RE: got it for free
# Jul 17 2001 at 5:04 AM Rating: Default
lol, stpd ranger very stpd ranger. As a ranger you wil hvae to up piercing, cuz look at the uber rng piecers :). And if ur only 1hs you obisiosly don't know a thing about ur class. And yes im a ranger and yes i know. And no im not flaming you im just saying you shoudl do the darn piercing.
RE: got it for free
# Nov 25 2001 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
If you look at all the Ranger Only weapons, the greatest number next to 1HS is Pierce, coming in next is 2HS, then 1HB, with 2HB dead last. Now think of all the weapons that AREN'T Ranger Only ... numbers run pretty much the same.

Orc Impaler is a nice piece, I haven't gotten it yet, but my skill is ready for when I finally land that one. I already have a Dragon Horn Yakesha, which is a nice Ranger only Piercer with the same proc as the SSoY (but goes off 1 level before from what I hear, but have not confirmed personally).

Call me crazy, but I'd like to own every Ranger only piece. It will take a long time, and a lot of travelling... but that's where Rangers excel.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 29 2001 at 3:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have one on the New server Zeb. look for me if you want it... 200pp its yours...
# May 18 2001 at 1:37 PM Rating: Default
"Rogue backstab does exponential damage based on the weapon's damage rating. A dam of 9 is a backstabbing device well worth the kpp it's sold for on most servers."
Umm buy a bloodstained fang for 25pp. thats 9 damage. (albeit a little slower, but if your paying 2k pp you can get something MUCH nicer then this)
# May 17 2001 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
I was looking in bestiaries...maps etc and can't see where this 'Crystalline Grinder' spawns, heck, the name doesn't show up anywhere else but this weapon's drop description. Where does this Crystalline Grinder mob spawn in CC?
RE: Where?
# Aug 12 2001 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
Sorry that this isn't too detailed but first time I went into crystal caverns I got this. Me and my group were running form the dwarf city to where the queen spawns. There was a crystalline grinder along that path. Wasn't very far from the city I think we killed it right after the broken bridge but I could be wrong. That's the only one I saw all day. Hope that helps a lttle. The grinder was the first item I ever won on a roll =) which kinda evens out my saddness about dieing three times with that group and losing a level (

Netherus Drunarth
30 Cleric
Terris Thule
ahh well
# May 07 2001 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
well like most drops in crystal caverns this wont sell for more than a few hundred pp (at least on druzzil ro) but its still a nice weapon to work on piercing but its much easier just to camp it
that to buy
RE: ahh well
# Oct 03 2001 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
Most drops in CC only sell for a few hundred plat?

Have you ever heard of the Blackened Crystalline Robe? I sold one for 2k last week inside crystal can get up to 3k in EC for it
# Apr 23 2001 at 11:36 PM Rating: Default
Trying to sell my Crystal Grinder, for 1.5k, look for knoxville on E'ci.... usually on Faydwer
I got mine for 100plat
# Apr 21 2001 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
I got mine for 100plat on povar to practice my piercing skill so i could use a DH yak with some degree of success but i think i will keep this weap becuase its really good, the person i bought it from was a shaman trying to get 27k for JBone greaves or some such item, whatever i am happy with my purchase haha
# Apr 20 2001 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
This seems like complete crap!
If you are to invest that kind of plats on a piercer then get a Slime Coated Harpoon or a Spine Chill Spear instead. But Cost between 1k and 1,5k on Luclin.
600pp or best offer on POVAR
# Mar 13 2001 at 11:20 AM Rating: Default
600pp on POVAR

Selling one for 600... send me a tell.

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