Master Wu's Trance Stick
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Ruins of Kunark
10 posts
Ok an iksar berserker club is now worth 500pp and it has the same dly/dmg and master wu's trance stick is worth 3k.Is the proc smite really worth 2.5k?
8 posts
Iksar berserker club weights 8. A big factor in weapon choise for a monk.
Snakefist Monk
Terris-Thule
Snakefist Monk
Terris-Thule
and wu's trance stick looks cool as hell.. that's worth it alone IMO!.. (just got one for 1250 btw..)
8 posts
I dont understand how many of you guys can discuss this weapon whitout taking into account the lvl of the wielder. At lower lvls a KD will be a lot better than this in primary. But at higher lvls other things come into play.
At 51 when i use trance stick in my primary it becomes a 15/18 weapon (7 + 8 damage bonus)0.83 ratio
KD becomes 22/28 (14 + 8 damage bonus) 0.78 ratio
At higher lvls most fast 1h weapons outperform slower ones. Eaven if the slower one has better base ratio. This is valid for 1h weapons. For 2h weapons the calcutations are different since damage bonus increases with delay.
Thus at higher lvls trance stick is better than KD in primary whitout eaven taking procc into account. But of course jade mace is eaven better.
Snakefist 51 Monk
Terris-thule
At 51 when i use trance stick in my primary it becomes a 15/18 weapon (7 + 8 damage bonus)0.83 ratio
KD becomes 22/28 (14 + 8 damage bonus) 0.78 ratio
At higher lvls most fast 1h weapons outperform slower ones. Eaven if the slower one has better base ratio. This is valid for 1h weapons. For 2h weapons the calcutations are different since damage bonus increases with delay.
Thus at higher lvls trance stick is better than KD in primary whitout eaven taking procc into account. But of course jade mace is eaven better.
Snakefist 51 Monk
Terris-thule
As I understand it, the damage bonus doesn't apply like that, but rather adds damage to the hits. So a 11 damage bonus will be Normal damage on the hit + 11. If that was the case, then alot of weapons would be insane in the hands of a higher level warrior.
4 posts
Damage bonus only adds to minimum/maximum damage, not to the damage of the weapon.
29 posts
i have failed to see anybody mention at what lvl does this thing proc?????
5 posts
Smite
Decrease Hit Points (HP) from 74 (L14) to 83 (L23)
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Classes: Clr (L14)
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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
Pushes Target Back: 1 feet
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Resistance Check: Magic + 25
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Mana Required: 70
Spell Duration: Instant
Casting Time: 2.45 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds
Recast Delay: 6.0 seconds
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Spell cast on you: You have been smitten.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso has been smitten.
Decrease Hit Points (HP) from 74 (L14) to 83 (L23)
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Classes: Clr (L14)
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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
Pushes Target Back: 1 feet
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Resistance Check: Magic + 25
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Mana Required: 70
Spell Duration: Instant
Casting Time: 2.45 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds
Recast Delay: 6.0 seconds
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Spell cast on you: You have been smitten.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso has been smitten.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 06 2002 at 10:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ya all of u r right: i would much prefer a Kd than this crappy little staff, but some 1 said the EPIC is 9 dmg. Ok ok it is 9 DMG, but if u have a FBSS or some other HASTE items, the fists r 9/18 i think, add 20-50% ( i thinks that is the highest haste u can get maybe more) but it can then drop those fast fistst as they r to 9/10 ya that's roght 9/10 u how fast of a little b*tch ud be???????? ud be a litle annoying DoT melee. i saw a 60 MONK doing on the screen 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 20 18 18 32 CRITICAL HIT 18 i mean he killed Nillipus in like 5 secs (i no hes weak but i mean 5 secs!)
13 posts
A level 60 monk punched for 18? I bet he was rather sad then.
Considering my L52 monk punches for 60+....
Considering my L52 monk punches for 60+....
Scholar
46 posts
Unless you completely twink your monk, you won't be able to take a lot of hits. Monks are one of the best two damage dealers in the game (Rogues top them in certain situations), but they don't have the AC to be tanks most of the time.
My monk has a Fungi Tunic, Silver Chitin Handwraps, and a pair of KD (yes and other items). Without a doubt the most valuable items I have are the SCH and the KD. The haste, combined with the 14 dmg KDs, let me kill a mob before he kills me. IMHO that's what monks have to do.
It'd be nice if this staff proc'd often but I would rather be hitting for 45max (at lv 38) than have a *chance* to proc 80dd. Also, monks can use FD in battle to drop after a full combat round and then get up and swing + kick. With a pair of KD and Flying Kick I can do this and get in 200+ damage, which totally changes the battle.
My monk has a Fungi Tunic, Silver Chitin Handwraps, and a pair of KD (yes and other items). Without a doubt the most valuable items I have are the SCH and the KD. The haste, combined with the 14 dmg KDs, let me kill a mob before he kills me. IMHO that's what monks have to do.
It'd be nice if this staff proc'd often but I would rather be hitting for 45max (at lv 38) than have a *chance* to proc 80dd. Also, monks can use FD in battle to drop after a full combat round and then get up and swing + kick. With a pair of KD and Flying Kick I can do this and get in 200+ damage, which totally changes the battle.
39 posts
And now with AA's Rangers outdamage all except a wizard with equivalent AA's... And with the monk nerf coming out next week monks will still do the highest MELEE damage (save rogue BS) and take even more damage when hit. Oh well, it is about time the overpopulation of us monks were cut a bit...
Just my 2cp
Just my 2cp
20 posts
Rogues out damage monks by far... rogues can out damage wizards.... as long as a wizard doesnt crit that is :) and a rogue can do more damage in a raid situation in longer fights... enough said.
Here's the thing though. With two KD's you aren't doing as much damage as you would be with a Wu's in Primary and a KD in Secondary. Go to www.monkly-business.com and take a look at their damage calculating spreadsheet.
Because of the primary hand damage bonus (this is different than the individual weapon dmg bonus), and the fact that delay makes little difference in your offhand, the proc on this stick makes it a definitely nice item to keep in the primary with a KD in the offhand. Not only that, but with quicker weapons you have more hits, and vs. casting mobs, more hits = better for interruption.
Because of the primary hand damage bonus (this is different than the individual weapon dmg bonus), and the fact that delay makes little difference in your offhand, the proc on this stick makes it a definitely nice item to keep in the primary with a KD in the offhand. Not only that, but with quicker weapons you have more hits, and vs. casting mobs, more hits = better for interruption.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 19 2002 at 10:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Having actully used one of these POS dual KD's will out damage this thing. I dont care what monkly business says there are more factors involved then just damage, delay, and haste. Like offensive defensive skills agi and AC of the mob.
3 posts
These Babys drop off any ghosty type mob.
Wraith,phantom,shadow etc
Thread over.
Wraith,phantom,shadow etc
Thread over.
19 posts
I use one of these in main, and a SoS in second. I have the trance stick because of its weight, and its delay, not because of its proc. Im at 17 weight right now, and a jmace would take me to 18. Personaly, i would rather have the 5 more ac from being under the weight limit at my level then 2 more dmg on a weapon.
1 post
ok question i am a new lvl 1 monk iksar ad i had to change from my original 36 warrior because he got #$^&$# up and gm said to make new guy , well by the lvl 30 i realized how much better monks are so i decided i would make one. any suggestions on KD or stick? i have 4600 in bank xev server i think sticks are 5k and i was in gfay today and saw KD for 4k
2 posts
i used 2 wu sticks at 1 time not good then wu/kd not that great then i went back to my kd/kd with fbss works great when i used the wu/wu i was only getting 7 to 14 damage but with a kd 28 to 40 damage between the levels 23 and 39 that i used them now i have a staff of shielding and jade mace now thats a nice combo
I agree, the proc is too random to make it worth the small damage it gives. 7...c'mon. It's good to sell to an ignorant monk and buy something better like a kd.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 29 2001 at 3:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok guys ~why are they called trance sticks? trance? like what they trying to say?
16 posts
I have a wu stick in my primary and have 125 dex but the proc seems too random to be a very effective weapon. one fight it procs 3 or 4 time then I might go 1 or 2 fight with only 1 proc. It just doesn't seem to be very reliable when you depend on the proc to make up for the weak dmg on this thing
Anonymous
Dude, these are going for 4-5K on Sol Ro. Someone I talked to today traded a KD for one. Please don't post what you personally want it to be. Post what the market is. The market is NOT 7K anymore, especially with all the new monk weapons coming out and the new drops in Chardok.
Here Here I just paid 3k on Eci
10 posts
Not sure what that guys intent was by posting a price of 3500pp about 50 times..but a few postings of 100,000pp got the price to about what it should be. yes this item goes for about 6-7k. Think about it 80hp DD as a proc is awesome on such a alow delay weapon.
35 posts
Just thought that you all might want to know that in inventory it now looks like a cracked staff.
4 posts
Ok, Im looking at this and thinking...why such off a easy mob?...On bristlebane server, these go for 5 to 8k
Knuckle Dusters go for 2k
KD's drops off Skeletal Harbringer in Old Sebilis
(lvl 55 )
yes, the dmg is real good on KD, but why so cheap and why is this so high, KD is much harder to get and yet has a low price tag, Its not cause there are a lot of them cause there is not many of em on bristle.
someone explain this? try to keep the flaming down a bit, you know that doesn't solve anything and is pathetic
Knuckle Dusters go for 2k
KD's drops off Skeletal Harbringer in Old Sebilis
(lvl 55 )
yes, the dmg is real good on KD, but why so cheap and why is this so high, KD is much harder to get and yet has a low price tag, Its not cause there are a lot of them cause there is not many of em on bristle.
someone explain this? try to keep the flaming down a bit, you know that doesn't solve anything and is pathetic
12 posts
KD has a higher delay, once a monk reaches 45+lvl the damage bonuses will more then make up for the lack of damage on this weapon. IMO this is just short of the monk epic, which is only 9 damage BTW. =)
[11 uber-twink Monkey] Loyan
[11 uber-twink Monkey] Loyan
Errr.... the monk epic is a pair of gloves, not a weapon.
8 posts
He is talking about the dmg delay monk epic makes your fists.
12 posts
It appears that some poor lamer figures if puts in a certain price 50 times it will become worth down to his broke level. Well congrats genius! you have successfully lowered to price of it on the board of this website. Of course , it will not change its TRUE value on the server, so you will still not be able to afford it. GL slick
14 posts
Ok, I think Shadow gets the most votes, can anyone CONFIRM what does and does not drop this?
1 post
well, ended up getting one while soloing near the stables. It actually dropped off one of the iksar varieties of shadow. it is not visible on the mob and i about freaked when i saw it layin there. I had spent approximately 20hrs there before finding it. Good luck all.
Zanazu
Level 49 Iksar Monk
Zanazu
Level 49 Iksar Monk
Anonymous
Drops off of A Shadow, not nay mob.
Anonymous
I have one of these and I am a lvl 11 Monk and everybody wants to inspect me when I play I had 5 people looking at me and felt like a spectecal. It rocks, I have had people offer me any where from 1kpp to 5kpp and turned them down. I like mine and if I get anything better then I'll sell
it but not until.
it but not until.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 19 2001 at 5:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have one of these and I am a lvl 11 Monk and everybody wants to inspect me when I play I had 5 people looking at me and felt like a spectecal. It rocks, I have had people offer me any where from 1kpp to 5kpp and turned them down. I like mine and if I get anything better then I'll sell
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 04 2001 at 2:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok i had (repeat had) 2 Knuckle Dusters and traded them in for alot of really good bard gear full set of lambent and couple peices of singin steel plus a iskar berseker club! My sister's boyfriend (lvl 49 druid) said this stick is better then knuckle dusters is he crazy???? I am on the Xegony serer the lvl 49 druid is on Druzzil Ro what is going on????????
Anonymous
Yes, Master Wu's Trance Stick is better. The delay is lower than Knuckle Dusters, AND it procs smite. This 80dmg DD spell that I've seen cast more than 3 times per fight completely makes up for any more damage you would do with KDs.
13 posts
I would say that a KD would be better. You would not be able to make up for the damage with Wu's, even when it procs. But later on, monk fists will attack with same stats as KD anyway.
Later on, monk fists will put Wu's to shame.
-Rolan Monje
Monk
Later on, monk fists will put Wu's to shame.
-Rolan Monje
Monk
19 posts
Waster Wu's Trance Stick is better that fists in your primary until Level 54 based on the damage/delay alone (not including the proc), but fists are better in your off hand past about level 40. This is because of the damage bonus on your primary (plus 8 at level 50.)
Go to www.monkly-business.com, and check out the 1hb table.
Go to www.monkly-business.com, and check out the 1hb table.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 03 2001 at 5:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what is the purpose of your post regarding what you payed for that crap!! why dont ya try posting something usefull or stfu!
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