Omens of Warok to people complaining about the focus. Personally I do use spears, not for the dmg they give but for the cast time and the fact that the spell gives decent (not high but decent) quick agro. .5 seconds to pull that mob off the caster in your group long enough to pop off a ToD could save their life. Granted the damage boost from this focus is not particularly great but I am one of those who think the focus doesn't make the item, it adds to it. Why takea perfectly good item with great stats and a solid set of mods and pick apart the one aspect you don't like, take your slightly higher dmg rate and work with what you have or ignore the focus and take it for the stats.
edit: sorry forgot to point out boots in the set have mr focus to those of you pushing for that for what reason do you wish a redundant focus?
Edited, Fri Aug 26 21:43:27 2005
Duskbringer's Plate Legguards of the Hateful
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The data says that the focus is for detrimental spells only. Spear is DD, not DOT? 45% damage increase is pretty much the most you can get from focus effect atm, I believe?
Edited, Tue Dec 6 07:41:41 2005
Edited, Tue Dec 6 07:41:41 2005
43 posts
THe focus effect might not be to par with the stats of these legs, but whatever the stats CLEARLY make up for the lack of a good focus.
Hell the closest legs are https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=32711 you get better ac/hp/stats/additional modifiers...i think we can suffer with a crappy focus again :P
Hell the closest legs are https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=32711 you get better ac/hp/stats/additional modifiers...i think we can suffer with a crappy focus again :P
Well if you think that, then you're kinda wrong and kinda f*cked up...
Yeah they're some-what similiar, but look at the stats in general!
325 hps is to drool over, ontop of more shielding, attack, resists, and everything!
I think you are on crack or something, and it ain't good crack or even kitty krack, I think it's sh*t, cheap crack.
-The Ac is similiar, there is more shielding and Dot Shielding, Avoid and all that other stuff on the Seething, yeah, but you can if you look at the other Sets of Duskbringers you'll get all the other Shieldings and stuff with the other pieces, so really, this rules + This > Greaves of Seething because more mana, hps, good amount of stats, and more attack(2 less shiedling, whoop-ti-do, you'll have a ring and earring with that to make up) and in general you'll do much better.
But... Sure if I can get the Seething Rage I'll get it right now and then, but this one is for Divine Mortals hah.
Of course, anyone in the right mind would take this if they could, but always get the Seething anyhow because the chances of you getting this is so small, unless you've been in your current guild the longest and whatever + the fact that EVERYONE else wants the ND piece for their Tier 2 Legs + the rare drop rate + people who can take this guy are many factors could be stopping you from getting this...
In the end you're kinda right, kinda... Wierd, but yeah, they're similiar but this is much better, though you may get more Ac out and shieldings out of Seething, you can dress 2 Sks in the same exact armor except the difference of these leggings with the same AAs and everything, and the won Sk with this will still win.
Yeah they're some-what similiar, but look at the stats in general!
325 hps is to drool over, ontop of more shielding, attack, resists, and everything!
I think you are on crack or something, and it ain't good crack or even kitty krack, I think it's sh*t, cheap crack.
-The Ac is similiar, there is more shielding and Dot Shielding, Avoid and all that other stuff on the Seething, yeah, but you can if you look at the other Sets of Duskbringers you'll get all the other Shieldings and stuff with the other pieces, so really, this rules + This > Greaves of Seething because more mana, hps, good amount of stats, and more attack(2 less shiedling, whoop-ti-do, you'll have a ring and earring with that to make up) and in general you'll do much better.
But... Sure if I can get the Seething Rage I'll get it right now and then, but this one is for Divine Mortals hah.
Of course, anyone in the right mind would take this if they could, but always get the Seething anyhow because the chances of you getting this is so small, unless you've been in your current guild the longest and whatever + the fact that EVERYONE else wants the ND piece for their Tier 2 Legs + the rare drop rate + people who can take this guy are many factors could be stopping you from getting this...
In the end you're kinda right, kinda... Wierd, but yeah, they're similiar but this is much better, though you may get more Ac out and shieldings out of Seething, you can dress 2 Sks in the same exact armor except the difference of these leggings with the same AAs and everything, and the won Sk with this will still win.
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I would take Greaves of Seething Rage anytime. a few hps are not that big a deal. Nor is 7 AC. If you look over most of the Anguish and beyond gear for us, you'll notice that it is the mods (for instance mana regeneration) that make certain items stand out. One can augment the Greaves of Seething Rage and get a better set of legs than you can by augmenting a set of Hatebringer's legs.
-The Grape Ape
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Edited, Tue Nov 29 02:38:35 2005
-The Grape Ape
www.PrecisionStrike.net
Edited, Tue Nov 29 02:38:35 2005
I would take the seething rage greaves also. It may have no focus effect and less stats in general. But if you are a SK, your primary duties are offtanking and pulling. Seething rage one has an extra 10 avoidance and a little bit more shielding and spell shield.
If you wish to hold out for the other legs, you'll make the clerics in your guild very happy. The anguish cleric legs have one of the best heal foci you can get prior to Vish shoulders or possibly demi plane loot.
Scholar
27 posts
improved dmage increases both the Dmg and the healing of my SK lifetaps...why would this one be diff? It reads real similiar to improved dmg
39 posts
Improved damage works for all direct damage effects, including unresistable ones.
THe focus on those pants works on disease only. Lifetaps are on a magic resist check, and Improved HT is unresistable.
This *would* work on a normal HT used in conjunction with the Unholy Aura discipline. But no one with these is going to bother with that, Imp HT is more damage and unresistable. Normal HT can, and often is, fully resistable.
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12: Limit: Resist(Disease allowed)
THe focus on those pants works on disease only. Lifetaps are on a magic resist check, and Improved HT is unresistable.
This *would* work on a normal HT used in conjunction with the Unholy Aura discipline. But no one with these is going to bother with that, Imp HT is more damage and unresistable. Normal HT can, and often is, fully resistable.
14 posts
Great stats.. aweful focus.. seems to be the new and Offensive norm in SK gear.. I bet the same dev that put wisdom on our plane O fear legs made these.
Bad Focus ?
1. Increase Spell Damage by 45%
2. Limit: Max level 70.
3. Limit: Effect ( HITPOINTS ALLOWED ) <<<<< LOOK
5. Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental Only)
11.Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed.
12.Limit: Resist (Disease Allowed)
Well guys as I read your post I shake my head and giggle. I hope anyone who is upset over such SWEET GEAR, lives a long and miserable life. May you forever torture yourself and cry about the smallest things that mean so little. I wish you eternal unhappiness in the void that is your sad life of misery.
The way I read this focus TAPS are +45%!
<SARCASM> <see two posts down>
Well that is +45% for those of you who bother to use TAPS and Spears with any regularity.
<sniff> why bother to use them anyway <snivil> Stupid mob will just resist the dog gone stupid spells. <pout> I dont know how those other classes put up with all them darn resistant mobs. If I was a Shaman and my slow was resisted I would just give up and never bother anyway.
PLEASE SOMEONE CALL THE WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE for the neverhappy twins. Go suck the life out of some other game guys.
Edited, Fri Jan 21 21:36:17 2005
1. Increase Spell Damage by 45%
2. Limit: Max level 70.
3. Limit: Effect ( HITPOINTS ALLOWED ) <<<<< LOOK
5. Limit: Spell Type (Detrimental Only)
11.Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed.
12.Limit: Resist (Disease Allowed)
Well guys as I read your post I shake my head and giggle. I hope anyone who is upset over such SWEET GEAR, lives a long and miserable life. May you forever torture yourself and cry about the smallest things that mean so little. I wish you eternal unhappiness in the void that is your sad life of misery.
The way I read this focus TAPS are +45%!
<SARCASM> <see two posts down>
Well that is +45% for those of you who bother to use TAPS and Spears with any regularity.
<sniff> why bother to use them anyway <snivil> Stupid mob will just resist the dog gone stupid spells. <pout> I dont know how those other classes put up with all them darn resistant mobs. If I was a Shaman and my slow was resisted I would just give up and never bother anyway.
PLEASE SOMEONE CALL THE WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE for the neverhappy twins. Go suck the life out of some other game guys.
Edited, Fri Jan 21 21:36:17 2005
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Heh, I don't think anyone is "whining and crying" as you put it, and your post smacks of a lot of misdirected emotion. Speculation that this is a poor focus for the class it is intended for was rather what the objective here is.
3. Limit: Effect ( HITPOINTS ALLOWED ) <<<<< LOOK
This has nothing to do with lifetaps or anything else, this simply means that it will work on a direct damage spell... one that takes Hitpoints away. And regarding spears, 45% of a fully resisted spell is still 0 damage. A lifetap, however, (magic check) will likely land. No SK uses spears in Anguish, why waste a spell slot when something that will not be resisted can be put in it?
The way I read this focus TAPS are +45%!
You read it wrong. The Z-bite line isn't a TAP per se, it's a DD with a healing/mana recourse. As I stated before, the DD portion of the Zevfeer's bite line will be increased by 45% as it is disease based. Thats' it - That's all you're going to see with this focus. It's a miniscule anount of damage and nothing to get excited about. I actually do more damage to my eyes with Z-bites than I do to mobs themselves :) Recourses are not increased in any way. This is just another "meh" focus effect.
I'll probably make these myself, but I still maintain that it's an unimportant focus. given that the Paladin legs have a 45% healing mod on them (read: really, really useful), a Magic focus, or a Solusek type focus (for Imp HT) for ours would have been much more useful than the focus in its current incarnation.
I'm actually surprised I'm bothering to respond to a person that uses the term "WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE" to attempt to drive home a point. You're not likely to understand this, or care, and I am sure any further reply from you will be just that much more cretinous.
Quote:
3. Limit: Effect ( HITPOINTS ALLOWED ) <<<<< LOOK
This has nothing to do with lifetaps or anything else, this simply means that it will work on a direct damage spell... one that takes Hitpoints away. And regarding spears, 45% of a fully resisted spell is still 0 damage. A lifetap, however, (magic check) will likely land. No SK uses spears in Anguish, why waste a spell slot when something that will not be resisted can be put in it?
Quote:
The way I read this focus TAPS are +45%!
You read it wrong. The Z-bite line isn't a TAP per se, it's a DD with a healing/mana recourse. As I stated before, the DD portion of the Zevfeer's bite line will be increased by 45% as it is disease based. Thats' it - That's all you're going to see with this focus. It's a miniscule anount of damage and nothing to get excited about. I actually do more damage to my eyes with Z-bites than I do to mobs themselves :) Recourses are not increased in any way. This is just another "meh" focus effect.
I'll probably make these myself, but I still maintain that it's an unimportant focus. given that the Paladin legs have a 45% healing mod on them (read: really, really useful), a Magic focus, or a Solusek type focus (for Imp HT) for ours would have been much more useful than the focus in its current incarnation.
I'm actually surprised I'm bothering to respond to a person that uses the term "WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE" to attempt to drive home a point. You're not likely to understand this, or care, and I am sure any further reply from you will be just that much more cretinous.
"no sk uses this in anguih." are you retarded? why would you NOT use the fastest agro spell you have? Oh i know, your a noob who isnt even in anguish, just comes to the boards to run his mouth about things he doesnt know. A quick half second cast sets agro before the mob has even got to you, then a quick taunt and bash (furious bash effect is nice and so are the bash aa's) builds more than enough agro for the dreadfully long cast time of a hate spell.
We'll make an example on say....an anguihs mini (im sure you have no clue what this is but oh well) Mob comes in right behind the bard, you either start the long cast time of a hate spell, while your bars counting down the ticks, the bards allready dead, you cant taunt while casting, most likely turns on a caster and rapes them in about .3 seconds. Or you try to taunt right away which is a LITTLE smarter, but always has the chance to fail. It doesnt matter if that spear lands for 1 1500 or 0 damage, it creates instant agro. So great, when my spear does land, which is pretty often now with rotroot, it lands for more damage. you have 9 spell slots if you have spent the 3 aa's for the extra slot......what could you possibly have loaded thats so much more important than the quickest agro possible? I hate you people who get on here and COMPLAIN about everything. If your so unhappy with everything do everyone a favor and quit playing the game!
We'll make an example on say....an anguihs mini (im sure you have no clue what this is but oh well) Mob comes in right behind the bard, you either start the long cast time of a hate spell, while your bars counting down the ticks, the bards allready dead, you cant taunt while casting, most likely turns on a caster and rapes them in about .3 seconds. Or you try to taunt right away which is a LITTLE smarter, but always has the chance to fail. It doesnt matter if that spear lands for 1 1500 or 0 damage, it creates instant agro. So great, when my spear does land, which is pretty often now with rotroot, it lands for more damage. you have 9 spell slots if you have spent the 3 aa's for the extra slot......what could you possibly have loaded thats so much more important than the quickest agro possible? I hate you people who get on here and COMPLAIN about everything. If your so unhappy with everything do everyone a favor and quit playing the game!
35 posts
The way I hear it any damage focus can be used to increase damage to all forms of Harm Touches. A 45% damage focus to any HT is nice
39 posts
This is a disease focus. Improved Harmtouch is unresistable so the focus won't work on it. If this were a (Fury of) Solusek type focus, SKs would be ecstatic.
Edited, Thu Feb 17 16:25:01 2005
Edited, Thu Feb 17 16:25:01 2005
Well now, that would make the following adjustments (saying you have your spells to level)
Spear of Plague SHD/54 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 400
would increase this to 580
Spear of Decay SHD/64 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 600
would increase this to 870
Miasmic spear SHD/65 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 660
would increase this to 957
Spear of Muram SHD/69 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 928
would increase this to 1346 (rounded up)
Seems an inaccurate comparison to the legs from fear, I mean comeon.....
AC: +97 Str: +30 Dex: +25 Sta: +25 Int: +25 Agi: +25 Fire Resist: +20 Disease Resist: +20 Cold Resist: +20 Magic Resist: +40 Poison Resist: +40 HP: +325 Mana: +290
compared to:
AC: +17 Wis: +5 Agi: +5 Poison Resist: +13
get real ROFL this item KICKSASS
Spear of Plague SHD/54 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 400
would increase this to 580
Spear of Decay SHD/64 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 600
would increase this to 870
Miasmic spear SHD/65 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 660
would increase this to 957
Spear of Muram SHD/69 1: Decrease Hitpoints by 928
would increase this to 1346 (rounded up)
Seems an inaccurate comparison to the legs from fear, I mean comeon.....
AC: +97 Str: +30 Dex: +25 Sta: +25 Int: +25 Agi: +25 Fire Resist: +20 Disease Resist: +20 Cold Resist: +20 Magic Resist: +40 Poison Resist: +40 HP: +325 Mana: +290
compared to:
AC: +17 Wis: +5 Agi: +5 Poison Resist: +13
get real ROFL this item KICKSASS
39 posts
I don't know any Shadowknight at this level that uses spears with any regularity. They are simply resisted too easily. Miasmic Spear and Spear of Muram are linked as well. Like the plane of time elemental breastplate, at best this will increase the damage done by the DD portion of the Z-bite line. That's why he was saying it's a bad focus.
Would have been nicer with a Magic focus for lifetaps which are used a lot, but otherwise really nice pants!
edit - typos > me
Edited, Fri Jan 21 12:19:41 2005
Would have been nicer with a Magic focus for lifetaps which are used a lot, but otherwise really nice pants!
edit - typos > me
Edited, Fri Jan 21 12:19:41 2005
7 posts
Sorry, im a lvl 70 SK, anguish geared. I use my DD spells constantly, for agro or DPS. They are not resisted as much as you whiners say. I consistantly get 2100 crits off DD even when clearing Anguish and on Anguish named...get over it.
Edited, Tue Feb 7 05:54:15 2006
Edited, Tue Feb 7 05:54:15 2006
I'd bet that Mordosskull has been in anguish longer, so "I'm in anguish" , doesn't hold much weight.
Check out what most experienced SK's say over at http://www.evilgamer.net
Most will agree that they don't use spears often enough to devote a focus to it. There are other spells worth memming over spears.
This focus was the result of someone saying "What focus did pallies get? .. ok. What's the opposite of that? .. Well, lets make the SK ones disease focus."
Edited, Wed Feb 8 02:42:31 2006
Check out what most experienced SK's say over at http://www.evilgamer.net
Most will agree that they don't use spears often enough to devote a focus to it. There are other spells worth memming over spears.
This focus was the result of someone saying "What focus did pallies get? .. ok. What's the opposite of that? .. Well, lets make the SK ones disease focus."
Edited, Wed Feb 8 02:42:31 2006
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Dark Elf Shadow Knight
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Dark Elf Shadow Knight
Drinal (Tarew)
Retired after 500 days /played
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Remade
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with stuff like this i bet it wont be uncommon to see SKs and Pallys MTing in places like plane of time soon, cant wait to see the BP
um... you're about 2 years too late on that. knights have been MT'ing in time for quite a while. in fact, knights tank several mobs in time better than warriors
um... you're about 2 years too late on that. knights have been MT'ing in time for quite a while. in fact, knights tank several mobs in time better than warriors
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with stuff like this i bet it wont be uncommon to see SKs and Pallys MTing in places like plane of time soon, cant wait to see the BP
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