Blade of Vesagran
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This item is the result of a quest. Expansion List - Premium only.
QuestsThis item is used in quests.Expansion List - Premium only.  Item Lore: Imbued with the power of the dragorn goddess.
Spirit of Vesagran: Any Slot/Can Equip Changed to 1H Slashing with 29 June 2005 patch. You may petition if you have an augmentation that no longer fits in the weapon because of this. Lore Group: Epic Weapons |
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Omens of War
Why was the stat "all instrument types 29" removed from the original stat box? i just noticed this.
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Honestly if you would really look in to this epic you would find that it is a very good choice for a Bard. Most of what we hear comming from nay sayers is that there are better weapons and gear with better instrument mods. However I find it is much better to take the epic which has an all instrument mod on it and lose all my other equipment that has a mod for one skill or another and trade it in for something with more hps, mana, survives, or stats. You have to know that when you make a toon you have to make your gear work together for an overall purpous: Keeping your toon alive. Sometimes you have to lose .2 skill mod in one skill to gain in other ways that may be better suited in keeping your toon alive. If you don't understand this concept you are going to be the one who has nowhere that stats, hps, mana, or survives as anyone else but keeps boasting about your Really awesome one piece of gear. Just food for thought.
Scholar
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ok... -1 point for the remedial monolog..
Yep you are 100% correct..anybody with a few brain cells can tell that you will need this epic..having 2.9 mod on every instrument is awsome...
Now that being said....TSS didnt give crap to bards at all for mods on gear and far as i know TBS didnt do crap either...SOF has some good gear with mods but you have to watch what you loose when you go getting modded gear...dont give up Parry skill to get percussion skill, if ya catch my drift...bard gear works hand in hand just like casters and thier focuses....
Now if your like me and your a badass and you play on Zek then your probley thinking well my 2.0 sucks *** in pvp not enough damage to compete...well just get your 2.5 then get the 3damage aug from Demi - tier 2 then go to Frostcrypt and farm 1dmg aug and then you have a 40dmg weapon with a 22delay..not bad..***** the proc augs if you play on Zek..they dont land in pvp..now just go get yourself a good secondary weapon from TSS or TBS or SOF and your good...
eventualy you will get enough good gear from SOF to bag your epic and use the autoshank and your set.
PS get a LON illusion for autoshank lol
Now that being said....TSS didnt give crap to bards at all for mods on gear and far as i know TBS didnt do crap either...SOF has some good gear with mods but you have to watch what you loose when you go getting modded gear...dont give up Parry skill to get percussion skill, if ya catch my drift...bard gear works hand in hand just like casters and thier focuses....
Now if your like me and your a badass and you play on Zek then your probley thinking well my 2.0 sucks *** in pvp not enough damage to compete...well just get your 2.5 then get the 3damage aug from Demi - tier 2 then go to Frostcrypt and farm 1dmg aug and then you have a 40dmg weapon with a 22delay..not bad..***** the proc augs if you play on Zek..they dont land in pvp..now just go get yourself a good secondary weapon from TSS or TBS or SOF and your good...
eventualy you will get enough good gear from SOF to bag your epic and use the autoshank and your set.
PS get a LON illusion for autoshank lol
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Playing on Zek does not make you a bad ***.
That is the most common misconception in Everquest.
That is the most common misconception in Everquest.
Bards wont ever be the "make" of dps in a group, you can have the uberest weapon in the world but its = a fine steel long sword if you dont have any mods playing that will bolster the dps of the people around you.
Scholar
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your just flat out retarted my bard out dps u with 1 wep! & u can take that to the bank!
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Shiny new Bard 2.0 on the Nameless server as of 4/18/07. Big thank you to everyone who helped me out.
P.S. This epic kicks ***.
P.S. This epic kicks ***.
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sorry to do this to all of you who think this epic is great but truthfully its not only reason i am doing it is so i have it any way im not even anguise geard or most other but you know i am still disapointed on the mod to instrments i mean come on one way or a nother i will get this but have any of you loocked at the tss armore that isent even high end i mean i dont use 1.0 almost don with my 1.5 but dang it for not being a raiding bard i dont do bad for my self but come one this thing is probly gonna sit in my bags for a clicky efect after i fianlly do get flag for anguise i mean ther is way beter out ther and it makes me sick but o well they could atleast fix the dang thing first time i read this i could have swore the instrment mod was way hier o well bards are always getting screwd but hey what can you do right
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.647 rating, with instrument mod and the stats make it a wonderful offhand. only way your going to replace this is if you start DP raiding. plus its really easy to get compared to all the crap you have to do for 1.5, imo.
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oo yeah and my mana regen is over caped buy like 7 i think so stupied to put that ther
Even though mana regin is easily over capped... It's better to put it on a wide varity of things, then just a few...
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I was woundering what would be better in primary for a bard this or the noched blade of bloodletting from AMV?
So with 2.9 Mod on all plus all Instrument and singing aas you will be 3.7 total mod on inst and singing right?
Scholar
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personally, this is by Far my favorite 2.0 in the game.....
lol i dont even have a bard, my cleric even kind of sucks....i just think it looks awesome - thats jst me personally =D
lol i dont even have a bard, my cleric even kind of sucks....i just think it looks awesome - thats jst me personally =D
Sword is kick ***** No reason to remove the ft2 take into account the amount of people in anguish and not in amguish. the sword has stats any bard would need if they are not geared to the max. If yer on a pvp server theres alot of peeps who have never even seen EP/Time etc. So for you guys already maxed that sucks for you but then again you have the gear so switch out another piece of yer armor for something else etc.
Man, you posted this in 2006. Actually, not too many months before I'm responding.
On Rallos Zek, when PoP came out, we quickly blew through it and got into Time. Rallos Zek, the PvP server which the others eventually merged into, was the first (and the only one I've known to have been GM-confirmed) to have taken down the Sleeper. What the hell are you talking about with "haven't seen EP or Time on PvP" when it's 2006?
On Rallos Zek, when PoP came out, we quickly blew through it and got into Time. Rallos Zek, the PvP server which the others eventually merged into, was the first (and the only one I've known to have been GM-confirmed) to have taken down the Sleeper. What the hell are you talking about with "haven't seen EP or Time on PvP" when it's 2006?
Just got it today! Man this thing kicks *****
I love me bard now! No longer in shame. :)
I love me bard now! No longer in shame. :)
So you play a bard, but you have a fake warrior magelo as your sig?
Completing 1.5 you get 5 AAs and for completing 2.0 you get 10 AAs.
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Personally, I think this weapon is amazing. I fully understand that any of us bards capable of getting this wonderful weapon will have gear with similar stats and effects, but an Epic weapon is all about status is it not? What high end guilds would be upset by their members wanting to complete a quest like this. Yes it's time consuming, and will be outdated in a couple more expansions. But weren't the old epic one quests time consuming? The name of the game is Everquest, and I for one am glad that they still put in long challenging quests for great items (status symbols once out of date) to work for. I personally like games where I feel I have to work towards a far away goal, because when I succeed, I feel like all my work has paid off. Everquest is a MMORPG last three meaning role-play-game which is what I love to do. And in a role play sense this item is truely epic! Of course, to each their own opinion.
It is 2.9 to all instruments now.
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Well all I have to say, as a Bard who constantly twists songs that use different instruments, as well as a Melee Bard, this weapon is definitely the most awesome 2.0 in the game (yes I am biased since I am a Bard, but that is also my opinion).
Like others, I question the +2 FT. DoT Shielding would have probably been a better option.
All in all I give this Epic a 9.75 out of 10 (-.25 for the FT2).
The stats on it are awesome and the effect would make a Bard welcome in most any group he could find.
The 2.7 to ALL instruments make it the perfect Jack-Of-All-Trades blade.
All I have to say is if you don't like the stats of the blade, don't quest for it. That way you won't have to ***** about wasting your time...
Edited, Sat Jun 11 02:30:19 2005
Like others, I question the +2 FT. DoT Shielding would have probably been a better option.
All in all I give this Epic a 9.75 out of 10 (-.25 for the FT2).
The stats on it are awesome and the effect would make a Bard welcome in most any group he could find.
The 2.7 to ALL instruments make it the perfect Jack-Of-All-Trades blade.
All I have to say is if you don't like the stats of the blade, don't quest for it. That way you won't have to ***** about wasting your time...
Edited, Sat Jun 11 02:30:19 2005
Ok...why the hell would you question the FT 2 ? And prefer Dot shielding lol. Granted a bard in Anguish is gonna be max FT BUT the more the merrier...I always try to keep a few points over cap so that I don't have to worry about upgrading an item that doesn't hve FT like the old one. It's happened and it drives me batty til I get my Ft back up over cap lol. DoN augs are the shiz. I don't know what lvl you are Ormands but perhaps you do not see the useage implied with bards + FT.
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Ok...why the hell would you question the FT 2 ? And prefer Dot shielding lol. Granted a bard in Anguish is gonna be max FT
Looks to me like you answered your own question. By the time you have 2.0, FT isn't an issue. I'm poorly geared (for a 2.0 Bard) and still have 7 FT over cap. You'd almost have to try to avoid items with mana regen to drop below the cap.
Toaasty wrote : "Way overpowered!? LMAO Dude you need to get a better perspective, there is NO way bards are overpowered. Every class has its own strengths and weakneses. Most bards can't solo many things worthwhile in under 5-15 minutes"
You are retarded, Toaasty. Obviously you have no idea how to play a bard. ***** kiting, ***** charming. All out melee those summoning level 73 named, it works. 5 minutes for a piece of gear worth up to 100k.
Bards are over powered. I don't give a rat's *** if a mob summons.
Edited, Wed Aug 10 20:07:47 2005
You are retarded, Toaasty. Obviously you have no idea how to play a bard. ***** kiting, ***** charming. All out melee those summoning level 73 named, it works. 5 minutes for a piece of gear worth up to 100k.
Bards are over powered. I don't give a rat's *** if a mob summons.
Edited, Wed Aug 10 20:07:47 2005
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Edited, Mon Dec 20 14:46:30 2004
Edited, Mon Dec 20 14:46:30 2004
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I wouldnt say we bards today right now are way over powered. They (SoE) have took alot of the utility that created that over powerment away.
As for Epic 2.0, after about a week of playing around with it. It's a 75% upgrade for a bard in Angiush. The stats and damage ratio way higher than any other bard weapon out there. During raid while raid buffed I have Melee crited for 603 damage and hit alot between 400-551 damage(note this on MPG mobs and Anguish mobs).
Only bad apart of this weapon is 2 areas. FT 2 doesnt make any sense but if you look at the other Epic 2.0 they all have FT2 on them that are mana users. Looks like SoE took easy way out on few stat instead of really looking into what needs to be on them said hey just stick FT2 on all the mana users Epic. Second thing is ALL ALL MOD 2.7. This is a tad under what i was excpeting and hope they do change it but not as high as everyone keeps sying it should be. I thought it would be 2.9 and not any higher sense all weapons and armor highest mod are 2.9. Instrument mods shouldnt be accounted for cause they are items of a higher specail quaility that require you to give up one thing to gain another where Armor and weapons do not.
Im very happy with this weapon and so are high DPS class(monk,rogues.ranger)that end up grouping with me.Notes i didnt say caster. This cause the The clicky does have a pretty big impact on Melee DPS do to 80% accurcy where the 7% to spell/dot chance to crit is not as noticable.
Only other thing at this point which I dont think should change bards ratio is seeing the Rangers epic ratio compared to Monks. Im sure this will stirr up something with the monks once again feeling under minded by SoE again.
Increase Mod to 2.9 and give us soemthing better than FT2 I believe Bard Epic 2.0 would be where it should be.
Medaan of Triality
As for Epic 2.0, after about a week of playing around with it. It's a 75% upgrade for a bard in Angiush. The stats and damage ratio way higher than any other bard weapon out there. During raid while raid buffed I have Melee crited for 603 damage and hit alot between 400-551 damage(note this on MPG mobs and Anguish mobs).
Only bad apart of this weapon is 2 areas. FT 2 doesnt make any sense but if you look at the other Epic 2.0 they all have FT2 on them that are mana users. Looks like SoE took easy way out on few stat instead of really looking into what needs to be on them said hey just stick FT2 on all the mana users Epic. Second thing is ALL ALL MOD 2.7. This is a tad under what i was excpeting and hope they do change it but not as high as everyone keeps sying it should be. I thought it would be 2.9 and not any higher sense all weapons and armor highest mod are 2.9. Instrument mods shouldnt be accounted for cause they are items of a higher specail quaility that require you to give up one thing to gain another where Armor and weapons do not.
Im very happy with this weapon and so are high DPS class(monk,rogues.ranger)that end up grouping with me.Notes i didnt say caster. This cause the The clicky does have a pretty big impact on Melee DPS do to 80% accurcy where the 7% to spell/dot chance to crit is not as noticable.
Only other thing at this point which I dont think should change bards ratio is seeing the Rangers epic ratio compared to Monks. Im sure this will stirr up something with the monks once again feeling under minded by SoE again.
Increase Mod to 2.9 and give us soemthing better than FT2 I believe Bard Epic 2.0 would be where it should be.
Medaan of Triality
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I like the ft 2 because thats the only way bards to can regen mana. Mana regen spells and songs dont work on bards.
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Medaan said nothing of the sparkly skittles that float around the blade... Bork likes the skittles!
Bards, stop whining. We're way over powered as it is. I would say you're making my class look bad, but 90% of bards are whiny fools.
This Blade is great.
This Blade is great.
Hellz ya we are and hellz yeah it is a good blade. I can PVP ANY class and win even against an SK who has a 10k harm touch i dont care ill kill him too. We have the biggest variety of any class making us capable of almost anything, a necessity to guilds and groups.
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Way overpowered!? LMAO Dude you need to get a better perspective, there is NO way bards are overpowered. Every class has its own strengths and weakneses. Most bards can't solo many things worthwhile in under 5-15 minutes. And the first thing any soloing bard asks when they attempt to solo a mob is, "does it summon?" there are many things a bard can and can't do. If this is your view we might aswell say all those qvic+ wizards mages and necromancers are overpowered, or we could just say they have other strengths than a bard.
I dont ask if mobs summon before I attempt to solo, if they do Ill Fade Memories and go try something else
ROFLMAO ur clueless if u think bards are overpowered as a level 70 bard is crap compaired to what a 65 bard back in pop could do. At 70 we can't even solo good exp. We can no longer ae farm junk well it really bites to be honest. Maybe if we got a new charm but looking how the only way to get a new charm is 3rd level 70 spell which isn't the easiest thing to come by (considering my server the highest guild due to EQ2 is in Time). We can still hold our own on some things like kicking old school raid mobz solo but most classes can do that now so it doesn't count for much.
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Posted: Dec 13 2004 at 2:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well i think there all grate besides its the quest thats epic is it not an (epic quest) the item u get has nothing to do with epic its the reword of doing an (epic quest)there for the reword is finishing the quest if u dont like questing then y bother ya there is bound to be beter out there but not a more chalinging qest id wager. i rily dont no what the prob is if u can get beter go get it and qit complaning u only have to kill a monb for the dame thin so go do it. for the qesters there is no grater reword then finisheng sumthing that meny will give up and fale
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Posted: Dec 13 2004 at 2:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow. That is probably the longest fragment that I have read in years. Is that trollish, ogrish, or gibberish. Sorry, but I have less than 10 points in each of them anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter.
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This weapon is absolutely amazing! All the stats look better then the 2 weapons shown on first post.
In fact, this epic is disappointing at best.
I realize that most people ooh-ing and aah-ing are not fighting in Anguish or even close so it looks incredible. But once you're actually at the point in the game where you can get this epic, you already have access to items with higher worn instrument mods and weapons with far better ratios. Considering you can get 2.4 - 2.7 worn mods from Qvic/Txevu mobs that take 2-3 groups to kill, this is a huge letdown. If you think I'm complaining for no reason, look at Rapier of Somber Notes or Edge of Chaos
The effect would be nice without the recast timer but it's too little otherwise. As for the worn effects, mana regen +2? Attack +20? Every Omens-geared bard has already reached their mana regen and ATK caps a long time ago. Stun resist is nice but it's not nearly as nice as Spell Shielding or DoT Shielding.
Add a worn mod that reduces the reuse time on Deftdance to something reasonable, similar to the disc time reductions on the monk and warrior epics. Increase the mod to 2.9 or 3.0. Change the stupid ATK and mana regen to Spell Shielding and DoT Shielding. Change the delay to 19 or 20. Then it might actually be epic.
I realize that most people ooh-ing and aah-ing are not fighting in Anguish or even close so it looks incredible. But once you're actually at the point in the game where you can get this epic, you already have access to items with higher worn instrument mods and weapons with far better ratios. Considering you can get 2.4 - 2.7 worn mods from Qvic/Txevu mobs that take 2-3 groups to kill, this is a huge letdown. If you think I'm complaining for no reason, look at Rapier of Somber Notes or Edge of Chaos
The effect would be nice without the recast timer but it's too little otherwise. As for the worn effects, mana regen +2? Attack +20? Every Omens-geared bard has already reached their mana regen and ATK caps a long time ago. Stun resist is nice but it's not nearly as nice as Spell Shielding or DoT Shielding.
Add a worn mod that reduces the reuse time on Deftdance to something reasonable, similar to the disc time reductions on the monk and warrior epics. Increase the mod to 2.9 or 3.0. Change the stupid ATK and mana regen to Spell Shielding and DoT Shielding. Change the delay to 19 or 20. Then it might actually be epic.
There is a crack addict in every group.
You would not be happy if your mother did the work and got it for ya now would ya?
Get a life.
You would not be happy if your mother did the work and got it for ya now would ya?
Get a life.
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Guess there always has to be one...
If you hadn't noticed, while the mod may ONLY be 2.7 (which is pretty freakin' good already), it is 2.7 to ALL the skills. The stats are great for what they need. For the 2.0 Epics Alla should introduce a new term for the ratio that would fit this - UNgodly. The focus effect is very nice in it owns right. The ATK is nice. I'll give you the regen is probably maxed already, but it's not worth complaining about. The two other items you linked are equal stat-wise (but you forgot to mention that stats are probably maxed already), but are lacking in the instrument mods. I can maybe agree that the DoT and Spell Shielding might of been nice, but I've seen more stuff with DoT and Spell Shielding than Stun resist, so maybe that's their motivation...in all, it STILL worthy of being called an Epic.
You, sir, are complaining for no reason.
If you hadn't noticed, while the mod may ONLY be 2.7 (which is pretty freakin' good already), it is 2.7 to ALL the skills. The stats are great for what they need. For the 2.0 Epics Alla should introduce a new term for the ratio that would fit this - UNgodly. The focus effect is very nice in it owns right. The ATK is nice. I'll give you the regen is probably maxed already, but it's not worth complaining about. The two other items you linked are equal stat-wise (but you forgot to mention that stats are probably maxed already), but are lacking in the instrument mods. I can maybe agree that the DoT and Spell Shielding might of been nice, but I've seen more stuff with DoT and Spell Shielding than Stun resist, so maybe that's their motivation...in all, it STILL worthy of being called an Epic.
You, sir, are complaining for no reason.
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Have you actually followed the links? Both weapons have mods higher than the 2.0 epic. And they aren't of an expansion after the epic. So if you meant the epic has ALL mods on it and therefore is better than the linked weapons....hm you may check out epic 1.0.
No I think calliopeia is spot on. After all this weapon is called EPIC.
Just my 2cp.
No I think calliopeia is spot on. After all this weapon is called EPIC.
Just my 2cp.
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I did in fact follow the links. While both have mods higher than this, they only have mods to one skill. As far as PLAYING a Bard goes, I definately can't start talking about practical uses and situations...but the fact that it has a high mod to all the skills makes it seem very Epic-like to me. Those two linked would be used for certai situations. This is for general use. While other weapons might have equal and higher mods, I would personally find it easier using this than carrying around a bag for five other weapons that I would have to change out constantly.
If I say any more I'll be getting into speculation, so I'm gonna leave it at that. I still don't think this weapon would be a huge dissapointment to anyone.
If I say any more I'll be getting into speculation, so I'm gonna leave it at that. I still don't think this weapon would be a huge dissapointment to anyone.
Dagerpoint, do you play a bard? If you were a bard who had raided in the end zones in Qvic and Omens, you'd already know that the rest of the instrument mods are already on other pieces of armor. I only linked those 2 weapons as examples, but there are a slew of other choices for items with worn mods at 2.7+. If you really want to research it, check out the mod item list on tCH. My point is that you would not replace weapons with significantly better ratios and effects to equip this epic. If you were an Anguish-flagged bard, you'd have the other mods covered from other slots.
I welcome rebuttals from other bards who are actually capable of getting this epic. But you won't find them. This epic needs improvement.
Calli
<To those who question my Magelo, I have one of the the lowest gear factors in my guild, meaning I don't loot much. That's my choice. You can look at the other bards in my guild if you want to be wow'd by their 2.7 - 2.9 mods, but considering I have some high mods and I loot only when there's really no competition, that speaks volumes. If this weren't an *EPIC* I'd be much more forgiving. I'm hoping that by posting unhapiness in as many places as possible, Sony will get the message. If you feel I'm alone in my analysis, check out the bard forums, especially tCH.>
Edited, Tue Dec 14 16:26:01 2004
I welcome rebuttals from other bards who are actually capable of getting this epic. But you won't find them. This epic needs improvement.
Calli
<To those who question my Magelo, I have one of the the lowest gear factors in my guild, meaning I don't loot much. That's my choice. You can look at the other bards in my guild if you want to be wow'd by their 2.7 - 2.9 mods, but considering I have some high mods and I loot only when there's really no competition, that speaks volumes. If this weren't an *EPIC* I'd be much more forgiving. I'm hoping that by posting unhapiness in as many places as possible, Sony will get the message. If you feel I'm alone in my analysis, check out the bard forums, especially tCH.>
Edited, Tue Dec 14 16:26:01 2004
Edited, Thu Mar 2 11:48:49 2006
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Edited, Nov 5th 2011 12:20am by KGBSpectre
Edited, Nov 5th 2011 12:20am by KGBSpectre
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Replace primary/secondary with this, eliminate all of your armor worn mods and replace them with gear from anguish that has more hitpoints. Think ahead. It's not your only piece of gear, it is supposed to work in conjunction with the rest of your equipment. By doing this epic, you eliminate all of your need for mods in your armor and you can replace them with something decent, like +320 hit points. This is a great epic.
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You'd have your 2.7 brass mod on either your Luvwen's BP (which drops from Txevu mobs that require a few groups, not a raid) or Crystal BP, your Wind mod from the Tacvi ring, and a string mod (who cares about their string mod anyway? Woo woo, another 10HP per tick!) from your Steel Boots. My point is that you would not replace weapons with significantly better ratios and effects to equip this epic.
First off, not to necissarily disagree, but to counter your two main points here...
Yes, some of that equipment may have better mods than this epic does, but it also takes up quite a few slots and limits your upgrades. What are you going to do if you have to choose between a clearly better set of Boots than the ones your wearing in every way other than instrument mod. Wouldn't it be nice to upgrade 40-60 hp or mana in that slot with new equipment and not worry about the fact that you just lost the instrument mod?? Equiping a character is always a trade off in some reguard. You're not going to get much equipment where EVERYTHING is better anymore. It's obvious SoE is making the new equipment nice and appealing, but also making you pick and choose what stats are most important.
An the second point, could you PLEASE show me any one handed bard usable weapon with a better ratio than this? If I do a search on Lucy or Allakhazam, I don't see any that exist. You say that no bard would give up a weapon with a better ratio, but I don't know of any. If I have missed them. Both of the links that you posted have far worse ratio's on them than epic 2.0 does. Also, this weapon has more HP, Mana, and AC then the next best option, which currently is a Mace of Tortured Nightmares
Edited, Tue Dec 14 12:54:02 2004
Wow good argument there Calli.
To hear you tell it, any decent high-end bard should have 2.7 mods for singing and all the instruments already before they are capable of obtaining this item. You even point to some nice gear that every decent "Anguish-flagged bard" apparently should have.
Apparently you either 1) Are not a high-end bard yourself, or 2) You really need some gear upgrades.
Why do I say this? Your magelo only shows ONE item that has a 2.7 mod or better. Your bp.
So basically you cut this item down for being worthless, and yet you would find it equal or better then all the mods you currently have?
Following your logic, the only ones who are capable of rebutting you are those who have items with mods that equal or exceed this item's (since only Anguish-flagged can obtain this item). But you don't have that gear yourself. Guess you can't even get into the debate since you don't qualify by your own standards.
Gratz to you for trying to be high and mighty over the rest of us peons when you are nothing but a fraud.
Edited, Tue Dec 14 12:19:20 2004
To hear you tell it, any decent high-end bard should have 2.7 mods for singing and all the instruments already before they are capable of obtaining this item. You even point to some nice gear that every decent "Anguish-flagged bard" apparently should have.
Apparently you either 1) Are not a high-end bard yourself, or 2) You really need some gear upgrades.
Why do I say this? Your magelo only shows ONE item that has a 2.7 mod or better. Your bp.
So basically you cut this item down for being worthless, and yet you would find it equal or better then all the mods you currently have?
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I welcome rebuttals from other bards who are actually capable of getting this epic.
Following your logic, the only ones who are capable of rebutting you are those who have items with mods that equal or exceed this item's (since only Anguish-flagged can obtain this item). But you don't have that gear yourself. Guess you can't even get into the debate since you don't qualify by your own standards.
Gratz to you for trying to be high and mighty over the rest of us peons when you are nothing but a fraud.
Edited, Tue Dec 14 12:19:20 2004
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Won't get any disagrement from me on this epic being dissapointing. My guild just got Qvic access tonight, and I am looking forward to obtaining the loots you mention. I didn't want 1.5 because my Time gear had better mods. I don't want this item because I will have similiar mods but the time I could achieve it. I will not ask my guild to do all the work required for this epic for a minor upgrade and a clicky. If the mod had been 2.9 or greater I would be working on my 1.5 now to get ready for 2.0. As it stands I will not be working on this quest
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Funny, I've yet to find a bard in my guild that doesn't either HAVE this, or is working on obtaining it.
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Dammm..... that's nice ,I can't wait to see what my rog's 2.0 will be, I haven't seen an epic 2.0 that was even close to bad yet.
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Posted: Dec 12 2004 at 11:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thats one happy *** mudda fuggin bard....holy sheet
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Posted: Dec 11 2004 at 2:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That focus effect is amazing!!!
Magic DMG: 2 is missing from the stats on this page.
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=77640
Edited, Sat Dec 11 11:06:50 2004
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=77640
Edited, Sat Dec 11 11:06:50 2004
This is what I like to see -- not a SINGLE Bard is on here telling us all how Sony "Screwed" them with their epic. This is an awesome accomplishment, and an even better reward! Congrats to all you Bards out there for not being Paladins and ******** about the greatest weapon in the game!
ALAS! I stand corrected! "In fact, this epic is disappointing at best." Riiiight. I guess I was wrong about you Bards. Although you're fun to have in groups, you can sing a damn fine tune, and you taste... Man you taste good, you're still MORONS!
Edited, Mon Dec 13 02:37:48 2004
ALAS! I stand corrected! "In fact, this epic is disappointing at best." Riiiight. I guess I was wrong about you Bards. Although you're fun to have in groups, you can sing a damn fine tune, and you taste... Man you taste good, you're still MORONS!
Edited, Mon Dec 13 02:37:48 2004
Im going to guess most of the bards you've met have been morons who spend time on boards and don't play EQ either, to make that kind of generalization.
What you have to understand is something called work -> reward ratio. When you call out a 60 person raid for a total of two hours, thats 120 hours of play time spent. When your epic takes more than one of these raids, hours really add up. The reward: ONE weapon for ONE person, in that respect, this item isnt nesecarily worth the work involved for minor upgrades. Despite the fact this kind of item seems amazing to people who have nothing better than 10/20's or whatever, when you have items almost as good, its less significant.
Back to the original idea, bards are not palidans. Bards were at one point the most powerful class in the game by far. Palidans were at one point possibly the weakest class in the game. Sony learned of this, and started nerfing Bards, and giving palidans stuff. Sadly, sony hasn't stopped. The major way Sony has accomplished this is not through the major nerfs that you hear many bards complaining about, but the simple lack of progression: ie, equal improvement from expansions.
What you have to understand is something called work -> reward ratio. When you call out a 60 person raid for a total of two hours, thats 120 hours of play time spent. When your epic takes more than one of these raids, hours really add up. The reward: ONE weapon for ONE person, in that respect, this item isnt nesecarily worth the work involved for minor upgrades. Despite the fact this kind of item seems amazing to people who have nothing better than 10/20's or whatever, when you have items almost as good, its less significant.
Back to the original idea, bards are not palidans. Bards were at one point the most powerful class in the game by far. Palidans were at one point possibly the weakest class in the game. Sony learned of this, and started nerfing Bards, and giving palidans stuff. Sadly, sony hasn't stopped. The major way Sony has accomplished this is not through the major nerfs that you hear many bards complaining about, but the simple lack of progression: ie, equal improvement from expansions.
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Posted: Dec 27 2004 at 6:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Funny, he's calling bards who read and post on message boards morons... Er, isn't he reading and posting on a message board? I also think he missed the whole 'Paladin' joke, but I'm not in the mood to spoon feed it to this octard.
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