Omens of War
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Bad for tanking
Good knight class DPs
Innoruuk's Dark Blessing
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bad for tanking? what couse its got a deley of 37? so its not slow as hell its got 85ac and 425hp 5% shielding some regen to go with it ... so what if ya get a few repo's at this stage of the game if acouple extra repo's is gonna kill ya you shouldnt be tanking there
24 posts
maybe because a shield and one hander combo is better for tanking?
Shield AC allows you to raise your AC softcap by the amount of AC on your shield. This being said not only does the additional AC help, but it also increases how much AC you EFFECTIVELY have. Raiding knights very rarely tank with 2 hand weapons for this reason.
This could have all the shielding and avoidance in the world, but realistically it doesnt mean anything if you dont use it when you are tanking raid mobs.
Shield AC allows you to raise your AC softcap by the amount of AC on your shield. This being said not only does the additional AC help, but it also increases how much AC you EFFECTIVELY have. Raiding knights very rarely tank with 2 hand weapons for this reason.
This could have all the shielding and avoidance in the world, but realistically it doesnt mean anything if you dont use it when you are tanking raid mobs.
2 posts
This is the Best 2.0 Epic i've seen so far, and not just because i'm a shadowknight. This Thing is nuts, I'm takin a wild guess normal hits with this baby must be between 650-700Hp, and critting for at Least a thousand. Why the hell is there so much freaken complaining about epics. They're done, they're not going to change. Some rock, some dont. Stop your whining, do the damn quest if you want to , if you think they suck you're probally just too lazy to do the quest.
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Posted: Dec 15 2004 at 6:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The clicky is mostly broken?
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Posted: Jan 03 2005 at 5:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thx for the info it makes me what it that much more im geting greenmist to and epic 1 dame it i love stuff tht no one els well get chus it to hard for them so they cop out =)
15 posts
Learn to spell dude.
Man, I've never been made fun of with the armor I waer, nor have I even heard of it from others. Only trashing I recall is if two players are in a fight...
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Can you name another piece of equipment that is better than this?
I don't know.. How about
Clerics can out tank us>>Aegis of Superior Divinity
Not too sure about the Pally epic 2.0, but the focus effect scales better then the SK (/em flips a coin)
However, I think ours is waaay better then >>Staff of Eternal Eloquence
Edited, Tue Dec 7 12:56:33 2004
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Posted: Dec 14 2004 at 10:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you might try considering shielding as a factor, which, if you thought like a tank, is the most important mod...period. Just because an item has 300hp on it doesn't make it godly or make them tank better than sk's. The 5% shielding on sk 2.0 more than makes up for the missing hp from a shield.
39 posts
Shielding is good, but I don't know I'd go so far as to say it is the "most important mod...period." I prefer avoidance to shielding myself as I like taking zero damage as opposed to mitigated damage, though both have their importance.
The earlier poster was correct. This isn't preferable to a 1h weapon and a shield when tanking high dps output mobs. You're losing more than than hp from a shield here, you're losing raw ac as well in most cases. (This is obtained through anguish afterall, most have a nice shield by this point.) More importantly, shields are coded differently especially if you have an armor class augment on them.
Now if they would code this to be treated like a shield, that'd be a different story altogether. An innate advantage like that would be nice, kind of like the 1h bash ability Inny's Curse had long before Luclin came out.
The earlier poster was correct. This isn't preferable to a 1h weapon and a shield when tanking high dps output mobs. You're losing more than than hp from a shield here, you're losing raw ac as well in most cases. (This is obtained through anguish afterall, most have a nice shield by this point.) More importantly, shields are coded differently especially if you have an armor class augment on them.
Now if they would code this to be treated like a shield, that'd be a different story altogether. An innate advantage like that would be nice, kind of like the 1h bash ability Inny's Curse had long before Luclin came out.
41 posts
Cool...you know what the Cleric Epic 2.0 looks like...I doubt SKs would want it. Now see if you can name a WEAPON better than this...good luck.
Scholar
26 posts
Doh here is link, Windfury Katana
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Animaster 65 Barbarian Beastlord
Szeles 82 High Elf Magician
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26 posts
Here is one and a 2hander at that. Windfury Katana
- DocJones -
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Animaster 65 Barbarian Beastlord
Szeles 82 High Elf Magician
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Szeles 82 High Elf Magician
12 posts
You don't play a class for an epic, you play a class for the class... If you enjoy being an sk, you enjoy being able to dish damage with some of the caster classes, tank when needed, solo when you feel like it, and pull when you want. All in all this weapon is Great for Sk's. It is the only reason I am willing to give up 1hs/Shield combination...
4 posts
All the sk's complaining b/c their epic doesnt allow them to tank as well as war epic does....newsflash you arent warriors, you werent meant to tank as well as a war. get off your high horse and accept the fact that wars are meant to tank better than you. be happy you have an awesome weapon for when you do use a 2her. and on pvp servers this weapon is going to manhandle people, in a serious way. It is by far the best pvp weapon in the game. /rant off
5 posts
also take a look at cleric epic with over 300hps for a shield that means a cleric with a weapon and its epic will have more ac hps than an sk. they are not tank classes either, but if all other epics have alot more hps how is that fair?
two words life tap
5 posts
do you play on a pvp server? On mine there isnt even a guild who has complete a mpg trial atm so this weapon wont be doing anything for a heck of a long time.
why are people ******** about this? it rocks! I will never get it since I highly doubt todra ever will hit 70 but thats a DAMN NICE WEAPON!
18 posts
Ok time to clear some misinterpretations :
-The cliky () is NOT a lifetap, it's a dd. on resist magic neg 200.
So, yes it's resistable and yes if you get resist your clik is wasted and you don't get bene fit of the recourse :
-The recourse : it's an autocast on the DD. for one min each memeber of your group will have 70% more accuracy, and will heal himself for 25 % of his melee hit ( chek the base 11 in the raw data ). So for example, a melee hit for 200 will heal you for 50 hp.
-The focus : it's an increase damage focus for lifetap DD.
It only apply on the lifetap the sk cast : aka it don't work on sel buff lifetap proc and on lifetap proc from weapon and augmentation.
One exception, if the weapon proc is a spell from shadowknight spellbook, it work.
All in all the focus will be used by sk for only one spell Touch of the devourer ( ) and in some ocasion when you want to meme 2 lifetaps Touch of Inruku
Last thing, it works like all other ID Foci :it's not a set number, it's a random number between 1 and 40% calculated each time the focus is used.
-The cliky () is NOT a lifetap, it's a dd. on resist magic neg 200.
So, yes it's resistable and yes if you get resist your clik is wasted and you don't get bene fit of the recourse :
-The recourse : it's an autocast on the DD. for one min each memeber of your group will have 70% more accuracy, and will heal himself for 25 % of his melee hit ( chek the base 11 in the raw data ). So for example, a melee hit for 200 will heal you for 50 hp.
-The focus : it's an increase damage focus for lifetap DD.
It only apply on the lifetap the sk cast : aka it don't work on sel buff lifetap proc and on lifetap proc from weapon and augmentation.
One exception, if the weapon proc is a spell from shadowknight spellbook, it work.
All in all the focus will be used by sk for only one spell Touch of the devourer ( ) and in some ocasion when you want to meme 2 lifetaps Touch of Inruku
Last thing, it works like all other ID Foci :it's not a set number, it's a random number between 1 and 40% calculated each time the focus is used.
5 posts
my only complaint is look at say warrior epic 2.0 its 370hps add 2 augs and the people at this lvl will have nice augs then this item can be up to say 500hps. Add https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=32919 or something in off hand and then that is what 800hps for a duel wielding class. And sks pallies are stuck with 420hps. Yes i think the sk weapon is sweet but inline with 1handed classes, hardly.
I'm just curious how many warriors with epic 2.0 you think will aug it with HP augs over agro augs (anger3/stun)...
It doesn't already have an innate agro proc on it, and therefore to make it equivilent to, say DBoTWL or BBB, atleast 2 anger3 augs need to be put on it. I seriously don't think that many warriors with the capabilities of getting the 2.0 would even consider putting HP augs on it.
It doesn't already have an innate agro proc on it, and therefore to make it equivilent to, say DBoTWL or BBB, atleast 2 anger3 augs need to be put on it. I seriously don't think that many warriors with the capabilities of getting the 2.0 would even consider putting HP augs on it.
10 posts
I can see the rationale behind wanting a 1h epic vs a 2h, from a tank standpoint a 1her/shield will outclass a 2her statwise and give the shield block mitigation bonus as well as the ac softcap increase from wielding a shield. I don't think anyone would argue this weapon is crap but every bonus you can get in tanking is advantageous in some situations
41 posts
Who the hell would ***** about anything about this item? sheesh
All i have to say is omfg cant wait to see the rest :D
46 posts
I think one thing that people are overlooking is the fact that this has 2 aug slots. With the new augments that exist now, this thing can be enhanced to kick even MORE *** than I think it already does.
Edited, Tue Nov 30 15:07:05 2004
Edited, Tue Nov 30 15:07:05 2004
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Posted: Nov 30 2004 at 1:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Shadow Knight Epic 2.0 is not that bad for the weapon that it is. The weapon only lacks a few things I agree that with you Rotaidar about the AC an even 100ac should have been a minium at best. I also think about 5 more disease dmg should be added to make it a even 100 dmg what is the point of having 1 disease dmg the only reason I can think would be the lore of just being able to cause disease like a Scourge Knight
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Posted: Nov 30 2004 at 2:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think its perfict if we get anymore we get to much argo and pull frum wor
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And again Shadow Knights got the shaft. This is really a disappointing Epic.
I am not surpriced, as the stats were predictable. But I had some little hopes, after SoE claimed that the Epic 2.0 will "THE" endgame piece for any class. With other words: The best weapon or armor piece that you can get with the actual expansion.
So I expected an Epic that will be at least that good, that I don't need to bag in any given situation.
But the actual Shadow Knight Epic would be bagged most of the times. Why you will ask? OK, lets explain it a little bit deeper.
The role of an endgame Shadow Knight is not to deal damage. Our damageoutput is not bad, but compared to the real damagedealer like necros, rogues, wizards or mages, our small portion of damgage doesn't really matter.
We are more likely situational tanks, offtanks or puller. So we have to play roles, where every AC (AC is king!), HP, shielding or avoidance modifier counts.
That's the reason, why endgame SKs usually wear 1hand/shield combos and only in very rare situations a 2hander to deal damage.
I don't know, who was responsible for designing the actual SK Epic as a 2 hander. But one thing I know for sure: This person doesn't have a clue about our role in the endgame.
Let's compare our Epic to the warrior one, which is a 1 hander.
For hard fights even warrior use shields. Let's say they use the Battleworn Dented Aegis with an addition AC 30 augment. This might not even be the best combo, as there were no better shields found in Anguish yet. So you can expect that the stats of a 1hand/shield combo will even be higher...
But the sum of the important stats for this combo would be:
AC: 200 (including 130 Overcap AC from the shield)
STR: +25 DEX: +45 STA: +60 INT: +15 CHA: +35 AGI: +20 (total: 200)
HP: +655 Mana: +585 (I assume that that knights would have mana instead of endurance on the Epic)
SV FIRE: +45 SV DISEASE: +40 SV COLD: +50 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +50 (total: 200)
Shielding: +11% Avoidance: +10 Regeneration: +7 Attack: +20
Compare this to Innoruuk's Dark Blessing:
AC: 85
STR: +20 DEX: +30 STA: +35 CHA: +15 INT: +30 (total: 130)
HP: +425 MANA: +400
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +30 SV COLD: +30 SV MAGIC: +30 SV POISON: +30 (total: 145)
Shielding: +5% Attack: +30 Regeneration: +2 Mana Regeneration: +2
From a tank's view, I don't care about 70 less normal stats. 55 less resists would hurt a little bit more.
But 115(!) less AC inclusing 130(!) less overcap AC from the shield will do a significiant difference in tanking.
Add the loss of 230 HPs, 6% less shielding, 10 less avoidance and not to forget the loss of the 7.5% shield blocking and you will notice that noone will ever use the Shadow Knight Epic for tanking.
So why should we put so much work into this quest? The mini leechcurse effect is nice to have, but won't help much on the heavy AEs you have to deal with in Anguish or the MPG trials.
And the lifetab focus of only 40% is a joke! Come on, there were even better foci in the old expansion! Take the Steel Boots of the Slayer for example. They had a 45% magic focus. And that worked not only on lifetabs, but also on our undead nukes!
I see only 4 ways to solve this problem:
1. Redesign the knight Epics to be 1 hander.
2. Masively (and with masive I mean masive!) upgrade the stats of the 2hander.
3. Implement a Greenmist 2.0 quest to give us SKs the chance of an adequate 1hander.
4. Or implement a way to switch the Epic between a 1hander and a 2hander, simular to the old warrior Epic.
But honestely I don't think anyone at SoE cares about it... as it work's as intended ;-(
Rotaidar Randalator
I am not surpriced, as the stats were predictable. But I had some little hopes, after SoE claimed that the Epic 2.0 will "THE" endgame piece for any class. With other words: The best weapon or armor piece that you can get with the actual expansion.
So I expected an Epic that will be at least that good, that I don't need to bag in any given situation.
But the actual Shadow Knight Epic would be bagged most of the times. Why you will ask? OK, lets explain it a little bit deeper.
The role of an endgame Shadow Knight is not to deal damage. Our damageoutput is not bad, but compared to the real damagedealer like necros, rogues, wizards or mages, our small portion of damgage doesn't really matter.
We are more likely situational tanks, offtanks or puller. So we have to play roles, where every AC (AC is king!), HP, shielding or avoidance modifier counts.
That's the reason, why endgame SKs usually wear 1hand/shield combos and only in very rare situations a 2hander to deal damage.
I don't know, who was responsible for designing the actual SK Epic as a 2 hander. But one thing I know for sure: This person doesn't have a clue about our role in the endgame.
Let's compare our Epic to the warrior one, which is a 1 hander.
For hard fights even warrior use shields. Let's say they use the Battleworn Dented Aegis with an addition AC 30 augment. This might not even be the best combo, as there were no better shields found in Anguish yet. So you can expect that the stats of a 1hand/shield combo will even be higher...
But the sum of the important stats for this combo would be:
AC: 200 (including 130 Overcap AC from the shield)
STR: +25 DEX: +45 STA: +60 INT: +15 CHA: +35 AGI: +20 (total: 200)
HP: +655 Mana: +585 (I assume that that knights would have mana instead of endurance on the Epic)
SV FIRE: +45 SV DISEASE: +40 SV COLD: +50 SV MAGIC: +15 SV POISON: +50 (total: 200)
Shielding: +11% Avoidance: +10 Regeneration: +7 Attack: +20
Compare this to Innoruuk's Dark Blessing:
AC: 85
STR: +20 DEX: +30 STA: +35 CHA: +15 INT: +30 (total: 130)
HP: +425 MANA: +400
SV FIRE: +25 SV DISEASE: +30 SV COLD: +30 SV MAGIC: +30 SV POISON: +30 (total: 145)
Shielding: +5% Attack: +30 Regeneration: +2 Mana Regeneration: +2
From a tank's view, I don't care about 70 less normal stats. 55 less resists would hurt a little bit more.
But 115(!) less AC inclusing 130(!) less overcap AC from the shield will do a significiant difference in tanking.
Add the loss of 230 HPs, 6% less shielding, 10 less avoidance and not to forget the loss of the 7.5% shield blocking and you will notice that noone will ever use the Shadow Knight Epic for tanking.
So why should we put so much work into this quest? The mini leechcurse effect is nice to have, but won't help much on the heavy AEs you have to deal with in Anguish or the MPG trials.
And the lifetab focus of only 40% is a joke! Come on, there were even better foci in the old expansion! Take the Steel Boots of the Slayer for example. They had a 45% magic focus. And that worked not only on lifetabs, but also on our undead nukes!
I see only 4 ways to solve this problem:
1. Redesign the knight Epics to be 1 hander.
2. Masively (and with masive I mean masive!) upgrade the stats of the 2hander.
3. Implement a Greenmist 2.0 quest to give us SKs the chance of an adequate 1hander.
4. Or implement a way to switch the Epic between a 1hander and a 2hander, simular to the old warrior Epic.
But honestely I don't think anyone at SoE cares about it... as it work's as intended ;-(
Rotaidar Randalator
.... They "Don't know our role"? THEY DESIGNED THE GAME! I think if anyone knows whose role is whose, it would be them. And you, sir, have NO idea as to what you're talking about. Next time you're on EQ, /join serverwide.sk:sk
I guarantee you you'll be chewed up and spit out if you try to explain that to them. They know what they're doing and how to do it, believe it or not. You're most likely a Pally or Warrior, if you think that, and you're comparing the epics of two COMPLETELY different classes.
I guarantee you you'll be chewed up and spit out if you try to explain that to them. They know what they're doing and how to do it, believe it or not. You're most likely a Pally or Warrior, if you think that, and you're comparing the epics of two COMPLETELY different classes.
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18 posts
OMFG if u play an SK just delete him right now. How can u be disappointed with this wep? Name a better 2hander that is better than this? Knights after all have AA's to help in the 2hander area. Lets just have SoE take away our 2hander bonuses and just give us a dumb shield how about that? Like everyone else says, if u dont like dont bother doing it..but u prolly have ur epic 1.5 already so why dont u just destroy that. /rant off
p.s. its a free wep thru quests and raid...no dkp used
p.s. its a free wep thru quests and raid...no dkp used
7 posts
wow did he forget that SK's get a 2Hand bash AA... put the points in and you can use a sheild with a 2 hander.... this weapon rocks and I can't wait until I am cool enough to wield it.
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And again Shadow Knights got the shaft. This is really a disappointing Epic.
I swear, if one more Paladin comes to this board pretending to be a SK, I'm gonna beat some Halfling ****! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE QUEST, DON'T FREAKING DO IT, YOU PIE HOLE!
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SoE claimed that the Epic 2.0 will "THE" endgame piece for any class. With other words: The best weapon or armor piece that you can get with the actual expansion.
Is it not? Can you name another piece of equipment that is better than this? So what if it's a 2-hander? Though you bring up some valid points, SOE did deliver on their promise...you don't like it, don't quest for it.
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you bring up good points, but your also looking at it as a total powergamer.
if you dont want to quest and do this... heres a simple solution. dont do it. so what if this isnt as good as the warrior epic, this isnt the warrior epic.
there are a lot more people out there who will do this quest just for the sake of doing the quest, having fun with friends/guildmates and getting a new weapon.
if you dont want to quest and do this... heres a simple solution. dont do it. so what if this isnt as good as the warrior epic, this isnt the warrior epic.
there are a lot more people out there who will do this quest just for the sake of doing the quest, having fun with friends/guildmates and getting a new weapon.
15 posts
Amen : ) Looking at the Epic 2.0's only compares weapons. Not the "Whole Package" I have yet to loose a duel to a Warrior. Well I only duel them when I'm full on mana with my Harmtouch up cause momma didn't raise no fools.
Ho hum, life as a meatshield is interesting to say the least.
P.S. We did get a good pet finally or have you not noticed the new pet it LVL 68?
Missfortune Fatebringer
Ho hum, life as a meatshield is interesting to say the least.
P.S. We did get a good pet finally or have you not noticed the new pet it LVL 68?
Missfortune Fatebringer
one of his main points was that all the classes that use both primary & secondary slots got it way better than the 2hander classes (knights). Compared to any class, 2handers hp/mana/resists/ac get the bad end of the deal, not by little, but by a huge margin. By the time you're raiding the top-end zones of OoW/GoD, either a knight is on a 2hander with ~350hp, ~70AC, ~100 to resists as a knight, or on a 1hander/shield combo (they dont need shields to bash) and provide better damage on 2handers... versus all other classes who benefit from using primary/secondary slots with ~600+hps, ~220+ to resists, and gain nearly double the AC of a 2hander when youre on primary/secondary setup... not to mention THE 2hander users (mainly knights) also lose focus & mods from lack of gear on secondary slot as well.
The knight 2handers (or even classes that choose to use mainly 2handers, or 2handers in general) just need the 2hander stats bumped up, you dont have to be a genius to notice that if you dont have gear in the other slot, you lose lots of ac/hp/mana/mods/focus stats.
The knight 2handers (or even classes that choose to use mainly 2handers, or 2handers in general) just need the 2hander stats bumped up, you dont have to be a genius to notice that if you dont have gear in the other slot, you lose lots of ac/hp/mana/mods/focus stats.
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7 posts
2 handed bash AA... put points there... problem solved
7 posts
2 handed bash AA... put points there... problem solved
24 posts
2 hand bash does NOT allow you to use a shield while you have a 2 hander equipped you twit, it allows you to land a bash attack with one equipped.
problem NOT solved.
problem NOT solved.
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Read very carefully the description of the focus effect, and that does not read instant cast. It reads instant. That means not a DoT.
That Instant / Duration restriction will more than likely be the same as that applies to bard focus songs. Just a hunch, but I would think that this will apply to all lifetaps.
(And eeeewwwwwwww that sig is way out of date, like 2 years or so =/)
Edited, Tue Nov 30 00:08:17 2004
That Instant / Duration restriction will more than likely be the same as that applies to bard focus songs. Just a hunch, but I would think that this will apply to all lifetaps.
(And eeeewwwwwwww that sig is way out of date, like 2 years or so =/)
Edited, Tue Nov 30 00:08:17 2004
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Posted: Nov 29 2004 at 11:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dark Blessing of Pain
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Lich Sting: Any Slot/Can Equip
Casting Time: 0.8 seconds
Recast Delay: 300 seconds
Recast Type: 6
That isnt instant)
Limit: Instant spells only, is what you see on every DD focus out there, its becase DD's and Lifetaps have no duration, all the damage occurs in an instant. It will not work on DoT's thats all it means really.
This effect will work on all lifetap's that you can cast increasing them by 40%.
It probably wont affect the 750 clicked DD part of the epic, but that dosent really matter when your healing by damage like the Disc using a 94 damage weapon).
Casting Time: 0.8 seconds
Recast Delay: 300 seconds
Recast Type: 6
That isnt instant)
Limit: Instant spells only, is what you see on every DD focus out there, its becase DD's and Lifetaps have no duration, all the damage occurs in an instant. It will not work on DoT's thats all it means really.
This effect will work on all lifetap's that you can cast increasing them by 40%.
It probably wont affect the 750 clicked DD part of the epic, but that dosent really matter when your healing by damage like the Disc using a 94 damage weapon).
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3: Limit: Instant spells only
i always took this to mean that it was DD, Vs DoT, which is not instant, not the actual cast TIME of the spell...
i always took this to mean that it was DD, Vs DoT, which is not instant, not the actual cast TIME of the spell...
41 posts
Holy $hit. Can whoever got this please give us a link on any tips you may have for the quest? Pease and tanks.
42 posts
94/37.... oh dear lord save us all :D
Being as I will never in my dreams own one of these you may completely ignore my opinion. First, I would like to congratulate the person who spent the hours camping, farming, and ignoring RL attaining this uber piece of equipment. That said, here is my humble opinon on this epic.
Effects: Nasty. 1050 manaless, instant lifetap every 5 minutes...clerics will love this as much as the SK's will.
Modifiers: These are nice, more on par with the other Omens gear, compared with the warrior epic. Would still have liked to of seen higher regen rates, considering +5 regen falls in the new expansion.
Stats: Looking at them you say, wow...but the fact that its 2H means you are giving up a crucial slot. Compared with the warrior epic 2.0, these stats are horrible. +15 more dex is about it, everything else seems to fall with 5 points, and only +50 to HP...considering that warriors have the ability of picking up a secondary, the stats are lacking for the SK.
Overall, I think the SK epic is on par with Warrior...perhaps the SK is better with the extra Mana modifier, and again that manaless 1050 lifetap is just nasty, which does make up for the lack of HP. Good job on whomever finished this quest. Safe travels.
Effects: Nasty. 1050 manaless, instant lifetap every 5 minutes...clerics will love this as much as the SK's will.
Modifiers: These are nice, more on par with the other Omens gear, compared with the warrior epic. Would still have liked to of seen higher regen rates, considering +5 regen falls in the new expansion.
Stats: Looking at them you say, wow...but the fact that its 2H means you are giving up a crucial slot. Compared with the warrior epic 2.0, these stats are horrible. +15 more dex is about it, everything else seems to fall with 5 points, and only +50 to HP...considering that warriors have the ability of picking up a secondary, the stats are lacking for the SK.
Overall, I think the SK epic is on par with Warrior...perhaps the SK is better with the extra Mana modifier, and again that manaless 1050 lifetap is just nasty, which does make up for the lack of HP. Good job on whomever finished this quest. Safe travels.
I don't think the lifetap damage is increased. I'm pretty sure it stays at 750. My reasoning for this is because the actual spell Lich Sting can't be memorized in your spell book. I don't see anything in the spell description allowing this particular spell to be affected. They would have to very specific in the description in order for them to allow it, lifetap allowed, is not enough.
BUT one thing that makes up for it is the -200 magic adjusment. This is almost unresistable, about 90+% of your casts will land at full damage. Also you can crit if you have the aa's.
It doesn't have to be on par with warrior epic stat wise. Nobody cares about stats at this level of play, only hp. Heck people stop thinking about stats after they been in EP, this is far beyond EP.
One thing I'll point out. When the warrior that has his epic isn't tanking for the raid, he wont have the 750pt lifetap for when the ae, ae rampage, or reposte hits him.
BUT one thing that makes up for it is the -200 magic adjusment. This is almost unresistable, about 90+% of your casts will land at full damage. Also you can crit if you have the aa's.
It doesn't have to be on par with warrior epic stat wise. Nobody cares about stats at this level of play, only hp. Heck people stop thinking about stats after they been in EP, this is far beyond EP.
One thing I'll point out. When the warrior that has his epic isn't tanking for the raid, he wont have the 750pt lifetap for when the ae, ae rampage, or reposte hits him.
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Well as mentioned above I'm pretty sure the effect on this item is meant specifically for the lifetap on this item. Another thing I will point out is this item may not seem to do as much damage as a warrior weilding two weapons, but take a closer look. It has almost 100 damage (pretty much double what the warrior epic has and near the same delay, but yes it's 2HS) to start with and just enough delay to get a good damage bonus in. Plus the damage done by this riposting or just doubling (or more)would greatly surpass damage able to be done by a warrior.
-also note that this item will have more uses for a shadow knight then it ever will a warrior. The lifetap sounds handy, but when a warrior in a raid isn't main tanking he will always be healed nontheless, if he isn't, you raid just won't work out. His job and other warriors job is to try to raise a mobs hate for them while not surpassing the main tank or to switch off when a main tanks discs fall. I'm not always saying a full healing rotation, but just enough to make a small 1050 heal lifetap every 5 minutes redundant for anything but aggro.
-Yes I know you may say the lifetap could save the warr making the raid go much easier, but raids should not be built on luck so much, but timing, precision, and strategy. If you're bound to wipe, then wipe, but if healers can't keep you alive enough to the point where you have to use other means to keep your hpm up then your raid just doesn't have what it takes to finish.
But yeah, to not seem like a total *** I will admit that this item can come in handy because when you use it can be timed anytime after five minutes from the previous use. More hate when needed, faster killing due to more damage of a mob (yeah I know at that point 2000 hp isn't even 1/4 of 1% of a mobs hp but everything counts) but a warrior should never be counted to keep himself alive with anything but pulling, discs, etc... but I can't stress this enough to raiders just starting to move into higher end content... Do not let the warrior come even close to dying, even to the point where he has to use some of his own heals, have a proper cleric rotation set up for the raid and proper positioning before start. Which is another reason Warriors make nice raid leaders, (good ones anyway) they know what to do and where to stay to keep themselves alive which usually includes the majority of the raid. They can also direct clerics on how to keep them healed. And more so a cleric should not have to keep him/herself healed throughout the raid if the cleric has to keep the tanks healed, it should really be the job of another priest class.
Man I hate how I off track so all in all this item is very nice and suits the class using it very well.
-also note that this item will have more uses for a shadow knight then it ever will a warrior. The lifetap sounds handy, but when a warrior in a raid isn't main tanking he will always be healed nontheless, if he isn't, you raid just won't work out. His job and other warriors job is to try to raise a mobs hate for them while not surpassing the main tank or to switch off when a main tanks discs fall. I'm not always saying a full healing rotation, but just enough to make a small 1050 heal lifetap every 5 minutes redundant for anything but aggro.
-Yes I know you may say the lifetap could save the warr making the raid go much easier, but raids should not be built on luck so much, but timing, precision, and strategy. If you're bound to wipe, then wipe, but if healers can't keep you alive enough to the point where you have to use other means to keep your hpm up then your raid just doesn't have what it takes to finish.
But yeah, to not seem like a total *** I will admit that this item can come in handy because when you use it can be timed anytime after five minutes from the previous use. More hate when needed, faster killing due to more damage of a mob (yeah I know at that point 2000 hp isn't even 1/4 of 1% of a mobs hp but everything counts) but a warrior should never be counted to keep himself alive with anything but pulling, discs, etc... but I can't stress this enough to raiders just starting to move into higher end content... Do not let the warrior come even close to dying, even to the point where he has to use some of his own heals, have a proper cleric rotation set up for the raid and proper positioning before start. Which is another reason Warriors make nice raid leaders, (good ones anyway) they know what to do and where to stay to keep themselves alive which usually includes the majority of the raid. They can also direct clerics on how to keep them healed. And more so a cleric should not have to keep him/herself healed throughout the raid if the cleric has to keep the tanks healed, it should really be the job of another priest class.
Man I hate how I off track so all in all this item is very nice and suits the class using it very well.
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If the focus truly is for the clicky only then SoE was really good at disguising that this thing only has one effect. ;) I mean they could have then coded a clicky lifetap with 1040 instead of one with 750 but an added focus which only affects this spell.
I believe the Dark Blessing focus affects all lifetaps. Instant means it checks against spell duration - not cast. So all Lifetaps fall into that category.
But I do have to add that although the HP/Mana on this seems pretty nice it's just the equivalent of wielding 2 weapons with 200 HP/Mana each. This shouldn't be that hard to come by when you're able to get your epic 2.0 done. So I'm still undecided whether this is one of the better epics or not. :)
Edited, Tue Nov 30 11:13:44 2004
I believe the Dark Blessing focus affects all lifetaps. Instant means it checks against spell duration - not cast. So all Lifetaps fall into that category.
But I do have to add that although the HP/Mana on this seems pretty nice it's just the equivalent of wielding 2 weapons with 200 HP/Mana each. This shouldn't be that hard to come by when you're able to get your epic 2.0 done. So I'm still undecided whether this is one of the better epics or not. :)
Edited, Tue Nov 30 11:13:44 2004
I'm sure there are other instant dmg spells/triggered items out there...in which case the added effect should work on those as well.
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