Duskbringer's Plate Gloves of the Hateful

# Jan 09 2007 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent

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These also have +25 to bash damage.

THESE SUCK

# Nov 09 2006 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default

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these gloves BLOW! 8% strikethrough is lame to say the best. I dont know why you are all complaining about stats, who cares, if you've made it to anguish, your probably pretty close to max on all stats. What id like to see are some resists, yeah the fr mr and pr are great but even it out, throw 15 to CR or 25 to all would be nice. AC and HP are good (i wouldnt mind seeing 75 ac) but where is my focus? how bout some mana pres. Did sony forget that sk's cast spells or something??? They got the disease focus, they got the magic focus, the haste on helm was nice, bracers are usually never amazing but it does have a nice compelation of things that made good. Then i look at these and go.....WTF? how about some cleave, so i dont have to fight every monk, rogue, bard, beast and zerker in my guild for the face from ture. How about some ferocity so i dont have to do the same thing with the shoulders. heck from most items in EQ you'ld think the plae classes dont even use mana. Trying to find an item thats not all/all with mana pres is almost impossible. im not complaining because HOW horrible they are, im complaining because the people that make this gear dont take the time and do it right. We take the time and do the kills and work hard to get to these zones, they could atleast put in the time to make sure we are rewarded correctly for our efforts.

-oh and i dont care about all you lvl 50 sk's who are going to see this and go, WTF he is crazy id love to have those, they are amazing!!! yes, i relaize compared to your iron gauntlets of ruin that you spent every last cent in the bank on, they are great. but i worked just as hard, probably harder to get into tacvi, as i did getting into anguish. To see that this is what im suppose to upgrade to from gauntlets of malicious intent, is pretty much a slap in the mouth.

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 1:50pm PST by lukistke

RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 09 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent

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Mana pres is pretty worthless for an sk
There are so few spells that sk's mem that would be worth devoting a focus to it, because of the cast times it works on. The cleric reverance buffs are on permablock on a lot of sk buff lists.

Granted, I would prefer the ones off King in RS
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=31912

But, the tier 2 quests were designed for those that don't want to spend dkp on it, and still get something decent for that level of the game.
Not a lot of anything is going to beat it up to the expansion it was released in, and of course post expansion items are going to be better.
The AC is nice. Everything else is just gravy.
Now that Anguish is a pickup raid zone, they are a very nice upgrade to many sk's.

Edited, Nov 9th 2006 at 4:49pm PST by Kalysta

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RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 10 2006 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent

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I dont know if your high or just dont have a clue what sk's do. Download a parse system and see how much damage you do with spells. Saving yourself 20 percent mana cost, is just the same and saying you have a 20 percent bigger mana pool. i know if my 10k mana pool was 12k, it would help. yeah maybe your 3k mana pool wont see those kind of benefits, seeing as thats one cast of the new lifetap. But like i said, this item was ment for end game players, not PoP raiders.

RE: THESE SUCK

# Mar 12 2007 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good

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Also, Next time you parse your spell damage, look at what's actually giving you the high numbers. (Include HT and LT if you'd like, too) If you've got all the AAs to increase the damage of your lifetap spell buff proc and innate AA proc, you're doing 504 dmg (spell buff) and 612 (innate) per proc, not including crits. Now, unless your parser isn't including the DoTs that you probably aren't casting anyway, the majority of your spell damage is going to be from procs, and therefore unaffected by your mana pres focus (or lack there-of). Obviously HT and LT can be included in this, because they, as with the procs, require no mana.

RE: THESE SUCK

# Mar 12 2007 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good

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Not quite sure where your numbers are coming from, but the Mana Preservation IV, V, and VI are only 10% mods, for the record. Correct me if I'm wrong, but any other focus that I can think of off-hand only applies to certain spells or spell types. There's nothing higher than 10% that is all-inclusive like MP.

RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 10 2006 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent

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I confused mana pres with the ones that lowers cast times on spells 4 sec or higher.

Raid buffed I hit 10k mana. Even so, Mana pres doesnt matter to me personally. And ask the sk's at evilgamer.net , The sk class board. It's not something most sk's are missing, and even more so since the ooc regens.

And it still stands that these arent too bad. Yes, they aren't as good as other gloves now available, but during OOW, they were one of the top ones to get for an sk.

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RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 11 2006 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent

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Im sorry i wasnt being offensive and saying "your mana pool kalysta" i meant a person with a 3k mana pool, in general. After i read the post i realized it didnt sound like i meant it too. I know mana pres isnt #1 on my list, i still need a few shielding to be at 35, which is #1. However, i do solo a lot, stuff like the 1.5 was cake, because i could solo it all but 2 mobs. Times like those are when having a good sized mana pool comes in very handy. Also the new lifetap is a real mana pool drainer, would deffinitly be beneficail for that. I know i get a lot of use out of it during big events like vish where the healers can focus their mana somewhere else, as opposed to me. But 5 or 6 casts of that along with the normal dd's atk taps ect. and my 10k mana pool is down in the 30 percent range REALLY quickly. I really like to stay over 40 percent, ya never knwo when the need to step in and tank is going to arise, and keeping myself alive for the CH rotation to swithc over to me is very important.

RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 09 2006 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good

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You didn't have to pay DKP for anguish armor?

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# Nov 13 2006 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good

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Lucky you then. I know we still charge dkp for them, even though we have demi tier 2 and deathknell on farm. Of course, they usually go at reduced dkp or to alts.

RE: THESE SUCK

# Nov 10 2006 at 6:36 PM Rating: Decent

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ya, for the actual item drops. But the tier 2 armor drops, people stopped wasting dkp on. They started going to whomever wanted it, and rolled off when there were 2 that did.

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Dear god

# Oct 12 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good

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Some ppl complain about anything. 70AC, strikethrough +8, 310hp?!??! Jeez what else matters at this point in the game?

RE: Dear god

# Jan 16 2006 at 6:07 PM Rating: Default

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Avoidance, proper focii, shielding, spell shielding, stun resist....

The Tier 2 Armor for SK's isn't great. Deal.

Cha?

# Dec 22 2004 at 5:48 AM Rating: Decent

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Snice when do sk's need cha?? We dont get any charm undead spells...So whats the point?? shoulda given us 30 to dex, or sta. Dont ya think?

RE: Cha?

# Dec 26 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent

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Cha is important for all tanks because it affects the success rate of Divine Intervention.

Edited, Sun Dec 26 12:22:20 2004

RE: Cha?

# Dec 27 2004 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent

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even still by the time you have these, generally all your stats are easily maxed out by a few buffs, if they aren't already maxed out by your gear.

RE: Cha?

# Feb 13 2005 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent

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Which is the point - the more stats that your gear maxes, the fewer buffs you'll need for it, and the more pure utility buffs you can get (e.g. Cleric Spell Haste and Intervention buffs, Avoidance buff, Attack buff, Regen, et al.).

RE: Cha?

# Feb 20 2005 at 4:51 AM Rating: Decent

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to add...

Mob's debuffs will bring u down not so much past your max cap's if you exceed the cap.

ex.
true str = 500 (+50 from buff)
cap = 355
Mob ae -200 str -> 550-200=350 ... rather than 400-200 =200

if the xcample is confusing ... sry ... meant it to be helpful.