Omens of War
just fyi requires 12+ in zone for boss to spawn , 10 out in south ro worked for getting the instance. als to get up the ladder , put your back on north wall look up at the hole with no lev , and your gtg for ladder , was hardest part of all for me :/
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QuestsThis item is used in quests.Expansion List - Premium only.  Highpass Hold
Nedaria's Landing
Northern Felwithe
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Rogues own the DPS category.. Sure.. Wizards can deal High DPS... but wizards MED Rogues DONT... and lets blow the myth that Zerkers own Rogues in DPS.. its nonsense.. sure if mobs not postioned right rogues may lose a dps battle... but thats not a perfect escenario for basing a * who is better at DPS* fight. Take a Zerker Rog and Wizard all Equally geared and parse them in zone such as Creator or Nest and watch teh parse for OVERALL Damge.... cuz that wizard may nuke and pull some high DPS numbers.. but wizards overall damge is pocket change to the Rogue.. and that zerkr.. will come in second.
I by no means am knocking Zerks ( or Wizzies) on their DPS. I am just pointing out that its Overall Damage that counts most.
I by no means am knocking Zerks ( or Wizzies) on their DPS. I am just pointing out that its Overall Damage that counts most.
it has been argued who has the best dps so many times that its past the point where it even matters anymore, the fact of the matter is every dps class has its use, on those fighs where the mob mitigates melee damage, the rogues zerkers monks etc will be hurtin, and the necro's wizards and mages will end up picking up the slack, but when a mob has high resists even debuffed, its gonna hurt the dps of the casters, and the melee will come out on top.
When a mob gets turned so the rogue can only do front backstabs, which end up being pretty gimpy.. the zerkers will start to catch up..but as soon as the mob gets righted, rogues will speed right back up there.
Sure, with a few lucky disc hits and frenzies a zerker can come out on top, but usually when a zerker has a large dps advantage over a rogue, they're using some weapon vastly better than the rogue has content and ratio wise. Its safe to say that Zerkers and Rogues are equals, but one goes over the other in certain situations.
For reference I guess, I play a rogue, and I personally on raids etc, like to be grouped with the only Zerker in my guild, for his group discs etc.. (he also boxes a 1.5'ed shaman, so that clickies is nice on raid burns too..) I've never parsed, but its safe to say we're both equal dps, him using 1.5, me using 1.5 and quarm hammer.. (no comments on my weapons, dkp system sucks!)
Edited, Nov 22nd 2006 12:17am by Paylin
When a mob gets turned so the rogue can only do front backstabs, which end up being pretty gimpy.. the zerkers will start to catch up..but as soon as the mob gets righted, rogues will speed right back up there.
Sure, with a few lucky disc hits and frenzies a zerker can come out on top, but usually when a zerker has a large dps advantage over a rogue, they're using some weapon vastly better than the rogue has content and ratio wise. Its safe to say that Zerkers and Rogues are equals, but one goes over the other in certain situations.
For reference I guess, I play a rogue, and I personally on raids etc, like to be grouped with the only Zerker in my guild, for his group discs etc.. (he also boxes a 1.5'ed shaman, so that clickies is nice on raid burns too..) I've never parsed, but its safe to say we're both equal dps, him using 1.5, me using 1.5 and quarm hammer.. (no comments on my weapons, dkp system sucks!)
Edited, Nov 22nd 2006 12:17am by Paylin
10 posts
Zerker with 2.0 and tunats 5dmg aug > most any rog combo.
15 posts
For those of you that are so adamant about berserkers never outdamaging rogues, do some research before you post, in alot of high end guilds (not guilds that raid Crushbone) zerkers parse about equivlent with rogues and, in cases where the main assist cant position the mob correctly, they even outdamage us. Remember, we're talking zerkers with 2.0s and 5 dam augs... not bazaar crap. Also, wizards regularly outdamage rogues if played right, as do necros and on occasion monks.
Seeing a weapon and deciding that we as a class are the top DPS class hands-down is one thing. Being there and seeing the reality is another.
Seeing a weapon and deciding that we as a class are the top DPS class hands-down is one thing. Being there and seeing the reality is another.
3 posts
There's an expression... that's the exception that proves the rule.
The very fact that you have to point out specific situations where someone might sometimes outdamage a rogue, just goes to prove that rogues, on the whole, are the primary damage dealers. Yeah, Bob from 5th street might have a zerker that can outclass any rogue he encounters, but I'll be you 9/10 there are a hundred anonymous rogues who can outdamage a hundred anonymous berserkers.
The very fact that you have to point out specific situations where someone might sometimes outdamage a rogue, just goes to prove that rogues, on the whole, are the primary damage dealers. Yeah, Bob from 5th street might have a zerker that can outclass any rogue he encounters, but I'll be you 9/10 there are a hundred anonymous rogues who can outdamage a hundred anonymous berserkers.
Please help... tried to start shakeys quest but the halfling wont talk to me.. says didnt know slime can talk, tried to do the runnyeye beads quest but the halfling keeps giveing them back to me. how u get faction up if u cant do the faction quests?? how did you all do this? shakey and the halfing are apprehensive to me. Im a barbarian rogue. any suggestions? thanks.. Junizya (quellious server)
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37 posts
2 words...Rogue Handshake...Stand behind Reebo and use sneak...VOILA no more faction issue.
zerkers will never , and i repeat never outdamage a rogue when they get higher lvls, for one look at our 2.0 its sick, just plain insane, i love it,, and 2. My friend has a zerker a few lvls higher then me and i outdamage him, with our skills and discs, we are the most elegant form of death.
Demolien Heavenslayer
67 rogue
Quellious server
*UNHOLY CZARS*
"i am the follower, unheard
the watcher, unseen
i am the eternal rest, death from the shadows"
Demolien Heavenslayer
67 rogue
Quellious server
*UNHOLY CZARS*
"i am the follower, unheard
the watcher, unseen
i am the eternal rest, death from the shadows"
Fight smarter not harder.
uhm look at berzerker 2.0... and your friend is probobally gimp... by the way rogue 2.0 isnt very good.. considering its like what 27/19? other classes r better like ranja has 42/22. zerker is what 91/30 check the ratio man! not saying that zerkers r better dps but they can be if played right...as long as the person playing the toon can play their class idrc who is better.
49 posts
does i really matter who DPS's more as long as the mob goes down.....just a thought
3 posts
I play dual mains 70 rogue AND 70 berserker... Rogue has chailak dagger and despaire with 230 aa's, zerker has epic 1.5 with about 140 aa's, and believe it or not, both parse for about the same... However, I did get to parse a good rogue friend of mine wielding a discordant dagger of night and mace of tortured nightmares and he parsed 650ish on a normal fight... We had a zerker in the group with 2.0 and he parsed about 690 on the same fight. Not a massive difference, but I imagine with 2.0 the rogue would end up outdamaging him, if not by a small margin... Point being, I think the dev team has actually managed to lock both classes to a close dps match... Either way, they both bring different skills to the table, so who can say one is better than the other?
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Posted: Dec 20 2005 at 8:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol. look at the rogue 2.0 look at the zerker 2.0 best ratio of all 2.0's. an unaugged zerker 2.0 with 45% haste does over 45k dam a minute. rogues dont even hit 30k add bs to rogues dps and u might get 30k. add discs and a good zerker will out damage a if zerker using 2.0 and rogue using 2.0 and crystal dagger. also look how big of a ***** rogue epic is to get, by far the hardest/longest epic. dumbass
22 posts
heh, an anguish geared rogue can do up to 1600dmg per second, wich mean 96k dmg per minutes... no way zerkers get that high. and why would end game guild bother aving so many rogues if their long and hard 2.0 wasnt worth it? instead of 6 rogues amd 1 zerker an endgame guild would ave 6 zerker and 1 rogue
Scholar
39 posts
1.6k DPS is a stretch, and very rare in nominal conditions. Try 1.1k DPS on raid burns, and even that is pushing it.
Otherwise, Berserkers are not suppose to out-DPS rogues. However, they are very close, so close it's scary.
Edited, Mon Feb 27 01:00:47 2006
Otherwise, Berserkers are not suppose to out-DPS rogues. However, they are very close, so close it's scary.
Edited, Mon Feb 27 01:00:47 2006
Poorags -- why're you comparing this 1.5 to a 2.0?
42 posts
look up berserker epic2 makes this one look like a toy...
starting to think thats zerkers cud be new kings of dps /sigh
starting to think thats zerkers cud be new kings of dps /sigh
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Posted: Dec 20 2005 at 8:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol a zerker with their 1.0 that aint ****, u can buy bettter weapons. and as for rogue 2.0 its not ne better than any of the other 2.0s just compare with quadding for 4000 dam.
42 posts
ive grouped with many zerkers, many with their epic 1.0, and not one has come close to out damaging my rogue. he's not even that uber. using a garg talon and epic 1.0 and about 100 aa's i can easily out damage any zerker with comparable aa's/weapons.
Zerkers the new kings of dps? it'll never happen.
Zerkers the new kings of dps? it'll never happen.
Elven Sun Blade has a a 48/34 ratio with excelent stats, and it can be bought with DoN crystals.
12 posts
haha....actually at higher ends zerkers wout damage rogue maybye not by much but they do
So then look up the rogue epic2
This weapon just out-right rocks
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Scholar
19 posts
Just a quick question........do I need my 1.0 before I can get 1.5?Thanks in advance
NO, but if you don't have 1.0, you have to do a prequest for 1.5.
Its easier than 1.0, but those with 1.0 can skip it.
Its easier than 1.0, but those with 1.0 can skip it.
Our 2.0 (rogue) is 27+2 poison with a delay of 19.
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Posted: Dec 19 2004 at 11:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you wanna see this weapon get a link from the bot. when in game just type the following; /t fenninro.ximena fatestealer and it will give you the link. You can do this with most any of the 1.5 and 2.0 epics.
2 posts
Does anyone have a screeen shot of it ??
25 posts
What are the two effects on this epic? It doesn't really say much :(
The first one, it appears, lowers all skills by 5. That's just a guess, please don't quote me. The second decreases the reuse time on 'Duelist Discipline' by 60.00 seconds.
13 posts
Think I got the first one on my server, it's truly awesome...spent the whole night running around BB stabbing greens for the pure joy of it, lol.
42 posts
In the end this will be well worth the effort. This is the first weapon I have seen for a rogue that has higher dmg then delay ratio, maybe some of the GoD drops might be but I have not seen them. I can't wait to see the stats on the 2.0, but I dont see many unguilded or even small guilds rogues being able to aquire this. The one instanced fight will be the hardest for most it requires 36 people and is a timed event.
Posiontip
66th Rogue of Prexus
Proud member of Trinity Alliance
Posiontip
66th Rogue of Prexus
Proud member of Trinity Alliance
48 posts
The instanced fight ALLOWS 36 people to join. For guilds just entering VT, it might take 36. But if you are elemental, you might well be able to do it was 24, and if you have Plane of Time gear, probably 18, and Qvic+ probably 12 people.
It really all comes down to what gear you have. Obviously this will be very hard for some people. And for others, it will be very, very easy.
It really all comes down to what gear you have. Obviously this will be very hard for some people. And for others, it will be very, very easy.
15 posts
awesome epic...quest is a pain in the *** though...one of my guildies tried to spawn renux for 1,0 and got the 1.5 version...they died in about 2 seconds... when i get this i will elt everyone know =)
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