Windblade is almost as good as this thing. I prolly would keep my Windblade and let someone else get this unless no one else needed then I would take prolly. It's really slow which sucks but does have nice damage. As for epics and weapons... yeah, paladins get a major f***ing shaft there. 40% haste on your weapon and 100hp? Not to mention you can still use another weapon in other hand for even more stats/hp. Paladins get what, 70hp and a ****** 150 dd proc... it's lame as ****. Wheres the 40% on SK and paladin epix... WHERE IS IT?! Only class that get shafted as much in terms of epics is warriors. Better warrior weapons out there sure but you can still just get the buffs and such from epic.
Actually, after actually having my Epic, I wouldn't say that Warriors totally got the shaft on them. The 2H Epic really shines in Tier 1-3. The DPS isn't extremely good, but with punishing blade the proc goes off constantly (way more than any other weapon I've used) and I rarely have aggro problems. Slowers I group with constantly remark about how easily I can pull aggro off them after slow and alot of the times they don't pull aggro from slowing anyway. All in all, I'm happy I finished mine. The resists and 100HP aren't too shabby either.
Now Pallies and SKs, yea they got shafted. Entirely too difficult for what you end up with.
I have owned this weapon almost two years. The delay kind of sucks, but with enchanter haste my SK is a killing machine. Hits for 250-400 regular hits and crits in the 650.
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Posted:Jan 03 2003 at 3:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) aye the rogues might not get an uber piercer but look at their wepons 100hp on them 125hp on them WTF is that? Tank epics dont even have 100hp, my epic has 70 and Im a pally Go freaking figure.
#REDACTED,
Posted:Feb 16 2003 at 5:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) because pallys don't god damn well deserve anything more then a kick in the mouth=P
#REDACTED,
Posted:Jul 04 2003 at 10:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your mom deserve that because she gave you life, jerk
I am fortunate to have a LoT, and just for reference, when xp grinding and STR above 200, it hits between 60 and 300, I'd have to say the average is about 150 or so. I find it a great weapon for raids, the damage output is fantastic, there is no proc to draw aggro off the Main Tank. The wisdom stat sure helps me to group (wave) heal in AE mob situations... and so on.
(When I play Main Tank in xp groups, I usually switch to the Emerald Bastardsword of Purity and a Sarnak Battle Shield, to reduce the heal mana needed due to the gain of about 100 AC by the switch.)
Telk drops both of these in ToV and he's certainly a nasty fight.
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Heh, having been fortunate enough to recieve this on one of my guilds raids I highly doubt I will be completing my search for the elusive Frozen Torn Book. This weapon is soooo fun. At 55 with a skill of 185 atm I am hitting for 200's easy. If ya can get one for each of your Paladins and SK's iffin he don't drop that hammer.
You people that ***** and get weps like this nerfed will probly never end up seeing TOV , the Mobs these weps drop off are hard, real hard,, and the people that can kill them deserver nice wepons like this after the time it has tooken them to get to the lvl they are to get this,, so just cause you cant get one dont complain so other poeple cant have them, and one more thing, pally and sk deserve a wepon like this, the dmg dly ratio is godly , which makes up for there spells being crappy which they are, so for once they can do some good dmg, sure you might not like it when there dualing you,, but i bet you sure dont mind this wep when the sk/pally is helping you get your epic = P so on a final note, dont complain about loot, if you think its un-fair , start a sk or pally and go get your self one of these then, and i bet if it was for your class you wouldn't be like, this is unfair i will get somthing i can use nerfed = /
"he dmg dly ratio is godly , which makes up for there spells being crappy which they are, so for once they can do some good dmg"
I see this is an old post but I thought I would correct and update it.
Spells no longer "crappy" if people thought that. With the upgrade to paladins' damage output and 2h damage bonuses, we do decent damage now.
I own a Greatsword of Discipline (51/54). I can't wait to get Slay Undead 3 and get more AA exp off of the Grey undead snakes etc and crit for 2k+ with this class ability.
Someday I hope to land a "cleansing" blow to Doomshade :)
2k? I got a rez from a 60 paladin in Crystal Caverns (what he was doing there I dont know, shawl quest maybe). With SU3 and a Greatsword of Discipline he was landing crits for 3k and cripples for 14k. 14,000, fourteen thousand hitpoints. Dunno why he'd lie to a lowly 40 paladin like me.
Ok, once and for all: "2H piercing" and "Piercing" are the SAME skill! Pallys are NOT limited to only using "2H piercing" weapons (ask any pally using a Crystal Grinder to work on their piercing skill).
It is MAGIC ITEM flagged, hence Thunder, and also gives SV MAGIC. Good enough? Didn't think so, really. The names are just to add some variety usually. Then again, why am I siding with Verant? Maybe they make balanced classes when you look at them really in-depth(Just don't look at necros!). Shamans get alchemy, makes up for lack of soloing, just makes better on plane raids with their teleport potions, and their buffs. Bards -- They are considered a hybrid, basically a rogue/entertainer. They get masks of deception and all. Then there are SKs, they are like necros, except their own pet, more powerful than normal necro pets.
And my last point for siding with Verant? They have created a game that has totally addicted people. Below all their ranting, they still like the game. I hope that some agree and some disagree, I look forward to any responses.
at level 14 you havent gotten alchemy and havent realized it sucks yet. at level 14 necromancers are arguably the most powerful class (if we are talking untwinked without a doubt most powerful).
shamans are great soloers. many shaman solo 1-50 and even higher.
at level 14 dont even talk about the planes. at best you've heard second hand accounts and seen screen shots.
bards are not even comparable to hybrids. only the ignorant would even compare a ranger, shadowknight, beastlord, or paladin to a bard.
sks and necros, again not even comparable. a necro can solo things with ease a shadowknight wouldnt even dream of killing.
at level 50 against blue mobs a buffed necro pet (buffed only by the necro) will most certainly out damage a shadowknight.
all and all a completey worthless post full of nothing but bull ****
A bard may not be able to melee as effectively as a hybrid or pure melee, but they can solo about 5 red guards at the same time or more even. It is a long boring process but my 35 bard can kill all the guards in East Commons at the same time. And BTW its you're not your.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Oct 05 2001 at 7:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A shaman has alchemy too make up for the inability to solo? Okay, you are >30th level, stupid, or something. Shamans, and I care not what anyone of any standing, IQ, cumliness, level of sarcasm, ability, experience, religion, creed, sex, or sexuality thinks. Hell, I don't care if the programmers disagree.
Look at your spell lists and you'll see that druids have a nuke for base dmg of 1350, which happens to be the second best in the game. Wow, aren't we amazed.
Oh my god. How are you saying all the GOOD points about one class then bashing on the other and not saying their good attributes? You are the most moronic person I've read messages from since I've played Everquest. Please stop being such a loser and go play pong or something. Its not as socially interactive. Plus it has no class balancing to get you all worked up about, I think it might be your cup of tea.
u got me confused on the whole sk and necro comparison. sk's get their own pet which is more powerful than normal necro pets? i'm sure u made a mistake and got them mixed up or something =).
(been mean enough in one day, feel like being nice and not FLAMING YOU FOR MAKING SUCH A FOOKING STUPID MISTAKE!!!! [<----- joke]. i myself have never played an sk past creation so have no idea what they are like and if their pets have any special abilities, but i always thought they were just the same necro pets except a few levels later [like other hybrid spells] >=D)
Read the post again and quit making such a big deal about it, because you're wrong. What he said was that shadowknights were like necros, but they are their own pets, meaning the shadowknight takes the place of the necromancer pet.
actually, you do not. it is proven if you have a STA over 100, even if you are weilding, say, an 80 weight weapon, you will see no effects from losing your STA, exept that you cannot jump. hope this helps,
#Anonymous,
Posted:Apr 12 2001 at 11:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you people are ******* morons. 2 handed piercing is a brand new velious skill. WHERE THE **** HAVE YOU BEEN?!?!?! Paladins DO get this skill, my paladin is maxed in it. He is 56 and his 2hs and 2hp are capeed the same at this lvl.
I think this weapon will probably be changed some how...The wurmslayed WAS a piercing weapon once. Then all the pally's complained and they made it a slasher...I REALLY doubt this weapon will remain a piercer....and as for the name...hrm. What does it drop off? Maybe they justify the name from the MR? Lightning is always considered a magic attack in EQ *shrug*
they changed the wurm because of rogues not pallies. I believe verant is attempting to make sk and pallies work on their piercing skills a bit so I wouldn't expect this weapon to be changed. After all, it is a lance.
Actually for this level a proc effect would be a bad thing in a raid. very bad. Yak=your own death to even a raid wipe at the level you can get this. you do not want SK's and pallies grabing agro.
Sorry sir, I wield a 25 stone weapon some times... All that it does for me is eat up 25 stones weight of lewt, and makes it so I'm too fatigued to jump sooner than if it were 5 stone.
100+ sta = what ever melee class needs, not just for the hp, but for the ability to wield any weight weapon, and not have combat stats drop when the stamina bar runs out.