Shadows of Luclin
Curious about two things.
1) How rare is it?
2) What does it look like when equiped.
Blazing Rapier
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Drops from Cursed Cycle, very rare from what I've seen over 6 Cursed Cycles and seen just the one I looted drop. Unfortunately it has the original EverQuest rapier graphic =/
Scholar
16 posts
people say bards arent good damage dealers according to these logs, has anyone stopped to consider that on a raid your regening mana for dozens of casters, hasting dozens of melees while they fight, add the numbers up the extra damage, although little may it be per person the total extra damage is absolutely absurd!
64 Bard Kassumie
Tallon Zek
64 Bard Kassumie
Tallon Zek
18 posts
I was starting to ponder if this weapon still dropped. After months of cursed cycle raids, it dropped tonight! Awesome bard weapon, however the proc is a 2 minute 6 second dot and hence not very enchanter/mez friendly.
~Infini, Maestro of Lanys
~Infini, Maestro of Lanys
I read someone say that bards seem to be loved. Get your head up please. Bards have been nerfed in almost every patch. Bard hastes were once affected by putting on an instrument, this being almost immediately after beta. Not even 3 months later, and our instruments stopped affecting hastes. The comment at the time was "Oh... they are." Now we all know that to be false, and I garantee you nothings going to happen from it. Every patch that has ever been benificial to bards, hurt them worse in some other way. The 33% dot reduction removal? Cover up for nerfing charmburn. To top that off, all classes can be "acheived" via character progression in EQ2. However, there will be NOTHING that resembles bards in EQ2. Outside of the ability to play an instrument on the stage, and that, will have nothing to do with spell sets. Songsters will simply cease to exist. If VI loved bards, then why are they explicitely removing us, or even a resembalance of us, from EQ2? To quote VI "Bards are a coding nightmare we hadn't anticipated." Bards, translates into "Coding nightmare". VI doesn't like bards. It just throws us a few bones every now and then to make up for the constant nerfage over time, and never actually fix the problems that happened so long ago.
About this going to a bard... don't think anything of it. Even with this item, we will NEVER outdamage a rogue. We'd be hard pressed to even begin to match a warriors damage ratio. Much less a monks. Keep in mind, there's a 25/25 1hs weapon out there right now bards can use too. And the sad part is, WE DO NOT GET DOUBLE ATTACK. Our mellee is a joke, seriously. This is a nice solo item, beyond that... Whats sad, is that we get ambidexterous, as a little aa point, and yet, sadly, they refuse to give us double attack. Which, btw, this item, nor the 25/25 weapon, are going to make up for the loss in damage ratio not having double attack puts us into. The only reason our mellee is worth jack is because we get duel wield, which, without double attack, means ANY mellee class outdamages us. A double attacker, using a 2handed weapon, will outdamage us big time. Then move on to the rogue over there backstabbing, the monk doing flying roundhouse kicks while changing out her lipstick and knocking a dragon's eye sockets lopsided, or the warrior weilding two weapons dealing twice as much damage as any given bard, or the pally/sk over there whacking away with a sword twice as big as him/her, and finally the ranger whose got seven million buffs increasing his/her power using a bow critting for 3k plus damage with a 37/35 bow effectively hitting more often then the pally/sk's, while the bard stands there and goes "I can use two weapons! And I'm ambidexterous and can wield both highly effectively! But I completely lack the capacity to double attack despite my extreme skill meaning I'm always going to be half as effective as the absolute weakest damage source mellee out there, but above all of the casters mellee damage!" Half the time a bards better off putting his three dots on the mob with a drum in hand, throwing in amp/puretone/epic with a bbb and draining half his mana for a ddd. Heck, clerics chaining blasts deal more damage then a bard's direct mellee, even though that's only a short term thing since the cleric will inevitibly go oom, still, while that clerics nuking, he's outdamaging the bard.
Someone should parse the actual damage a backstab from a lvl 60 rogue with this weapon would be, because 6k damage seems a bit outrageous to me. I'm thinking around a 1k or so backstab with this weapon sounds a bit more accurate, maybe as high as 2k. Average backstab with a 13 damage piercer is what? 550? So that's 4 bonus to the damage. 1 third of 550 comes to around between 150 and 175. So add 150 onto 550, comes out to what? 700 damage per backstab. Whoever said 6k damage needs to think a weeeeeeeee bit more. This would not be an unreasonable request from a rogue.
Edited, Mon Sep 2 05:37:41 2002
About this going to a bard... don't think anything of it. Even with this item, we will NEVER outdamage a rogue. We'd be hard pressed to even begin to match a warriors damage ratio. Much less a monks. Keep in mind, there's a 25/25 1hs weapon out there right now bards can use too. And the sad part is, WE DO NOT GET DOUBLE ATTACK. Our mellee is a joke, seriously. This is a nice solo item, beyond that... Whats sad, is that we get ambidexterous, as a little aa point, and yet, sadly, they refuse to give us double attack. Which, btw, this item, nor the 25/25 weapon, are going to make up for the loss in damage ratio not having double attack puts us into. The only reason our mellee is worth jack is because we get duel wield, which, without double attack, means ANY mellee class outdamages us. A double attacker, using a 2handed weapon, will outdamage us big time. Then move on to the rogue over there backstabbing, the monk doing flying roundhouse kicks while changing out her lipstick and knocking a dragon's eye sockets lopsided, or the warrior weilding two weapons dealing twice as much damage as any given bard, or the pally/sk over there whacking away with a sword twice as big as him/her, and finally the ranger whose got seven million buffs increasing his/her power using a bow critting for 3k plus damage with a 37/35 bow effectively hitting more often then the pally/sk's, while the bard stands there and goes "I can use two weapons! And I'm ambidexterous and can wield both highly effectively! But I completely lack the capacity to double attack despite my extreme skill meaning I'm always going to be half as effective as the absolute weakest damage source mellee out there, but above all of the casters mellee damage!" Half the time a bards better off putting his three dots on the mob with a drum in hand, throwing in amp/puretone/epic with a bbb and draining half his mana for a ddd. Heck, clerics chaining blasts deal more damage then a bard's direct mellee, even though that's only a short term thing since the cleric will inevitibly go oom, still, while that clerics nuking, he's outdamaging the bard.
Someone should parse the actual damage a backstab from a lvl 60 rogue with this weapon would be, because 6k damage seems a bit outrageous to me. I'm thinking around a 1k or so backstab with this weapon sounds a bit more accurate, maybe as high as 2k. Average backstab with a 13 damage piercer is what? 550? So that's 4 bonus to the damage. 1 third of 550 comes to around between 150 and 175. So add 150 onto 550, comes out to what? 700 damage per backstab. Whoever said 6k damage needs to think a weeeeeeeee bit more. This would not be an unreasonable request from a rogue.
Edited, Mon Sep 2 05:37:41 2002
and yes there is a bard class in eq2
13 posts
A bard complaining about doing bad melee damage, that's like a shadowknight complaining his pet sucks. There's much more to a bard than just swinging weapons, as I hope you'd know. You can't have everything.
bards have double attack in PoP. Harmonious attack
i justed wanted to say one thing to viccino...
you know why bards don't get nerfed? because if they were they would be sludge in a gene pool somewhere.
i can't speak for the high end of the game/playing a bard (im only 39). i have spent countless days (in hours) learning how to play my bard, that might make for the lack there of. now i may be surprised when i hit the high end, but until then, this is what i know.
bards are no threat to anyone when it comes to power-checks. our melee abilities are not worth noting.. yeah if you throw in haste songs, yeah we might be able to hold our own. how bout if we play our dots and bellow, then we can quibble for damage out-put. but in case you haven't noticed, we can't do it all at once. we only get 3, 4 permiting songs we can play at once. our buffs albiet mana free, are no match for shamans or the like. hell, if i am in a caster group like that, i just play the mana song, ***** my buffs and have someone else buff me. don't get me wrong, i LOVE playing a bard, they are fun, they are very versatile. but the bottom line is, they are a jack of all trades, master of none. they can do a little bit from many classes but will never be as effective as those classes at it. so until you have walked a mile in my singing steel boots, don't knock us. now as far as the rogues go. hey, i feel you. never played one, but hey, you back stab. that's your thing. in my opinion you should out damage any class, because from what i understand that is all you do. but what can a guy do about it?
you know why bards don't get nerfed? because if they were they would be sludge in a gene pool somewhere.
i can't speak for the high end of the game/playing a bard (im only 39). i have spent countless days (in hours) learning how to play my bard, that might make for the lack there of. now i may be surprised when i hit the high end, but until then, this is what i know.
bards are no threat to anyone when it comes to power-checks. our melee abilities are not worth noting.. yeah if you throw in haste songs, yeah we might be able to hold our own. how bout if we play our dots and bellow, then we can quibble for damage out-put. but in case you haven't noticed, we can't do it all at once. we only get 3, 4 permiting songs we can play at once. our buffs albiet mana free, are no match for shamans or the like. hell, if i am in a caster group like that, i just play the mana song, ***** my buffs and have someone else buff me. don't get me wrong, i LOVE playing a bard, they are fun, they are very versatile. but the bottom line is, they are a jack of all trades, master of none. they can do a little bit from many classes but will never be as effective as those classes at it. so until you have walked a mile in my singing steel boots, don't knock us. now as far as the rogues go. hey, i feel you. never played one, but hey, you back stab. that's your thing. in my opinion you should out damage any class, because from what i understand that is all you do. but what can a guy do about it?
"but hey, you back stab. that's your thing. in my opinion you should out damage any class, because from what i understand that is all you do."
Don't forget picking locks better than anyone else, disarming traps better than anyone else, hiding & sneaking better than anyone else, and so forth.
Don't forget picking locks better than anyone else, disarming traps better than anyone else, hiding & sneaking better than anyone else, and so forth.
5 posts
Idiot! You are right, you havent reached high levels and you are totally wrong in your post.. any bard that believes his buffs aren't beneficial to the group and stops playing them, should not be a bard. I'm currently 55 and I help a ton. I can play my Haste/str/agi song, twist it with my Attack Slow/Speed Slow song and with my Dex/debuff dex song all at once. You know how much crap that is for not even having to use mana. You just complain so much cuz "I got nimble fingers, I cant take all this hitting buttons", cry me a river its what we do and we are good at it. In all those three songs put together, I Buff the group pretty damn good and debuff and slow the mob very nicely too, so if you say we have no place in groups and are the master of nothing, suck a nut bud.. your wrong.
Rugger
55 Bard of Stromm
Member of Final Door
Rugger
55 Bard of Stromm
Member of Final Door
4 posts
There's a reason this is bard only.
Bards have the lowest average damage of any melee class in the game. Verant promised us 65% of a warriors offensive potential, and we aren't getting it. Parsed logs put us at around 50%, slightly less if you aren't using really good weapons. I just hope that uber weapons dropping off uber mobs isn't VI's idea of a solution tot eh problem. That will still leave 90% of bards at less than the dmage output we were promised.
As for bards and AC, having played both I can tell you that bard AC is a heck of a lot easier to come by than warrior AC. Part of this is the low numbers of bards around. There is little competition, and little market, for bard-only drops. Getting hit in an XP group doesn't bother me in the least, as I will likely have better AC than the MT. Getting hit by a flurrying mob on a raid, whole nother issue. Any bard getting stomped after the first 20 seconds of a fight needs to check their MO, they are doing something wrong.
Bards have the lowest average damage of any melee class in the game. Verant promised us 65% of a warriors offensive potential, and we aren't getting it. Parsed logs put us at around 50%, slightly less if you aren't using really good weapons. I just hope that uber weapons dropping off uber mobs isn't VI's idea of a solution tot eh problem. That will still leave 90% of bards at less than the dmage output we were promised.
As for bards and AC, having played both I can tell you that bard AC is a heck of a lot easier to come by than warrior AC. Part of this is the low numbers of bards around. There is little competition, and little market, for bard-only drops. Getting hit in an XP group doesn't bother me in the least, as I will likely have better AC than the MT. Getting hit by a flurrying mob on a raid, whole nother issue. Any bard getting stomped after the first 20 seconds of a fight needs to check their MO, they are doing something wrong.
3 posts
I think bards put out a lot more damage than you think. You can't just go off of parsed logs since they do not show the damage that is being done by many songs. If you are melleeing and twisting 3 dots and throwing in Bellow for a 4th (maybe with an occasional amplification) then your bard could be doing more damage with their songs than with their weapons which brings their damage output up a lot
A bard who is dedicating 4 songs in a twist to damage is not overhasting his rogue and monk, is not zinging his MT, is not debuffing a mob's resists, is not snaring runners, and CERTAINLY isn't mezzing adds. What he IS doing is cranking out about 50-60dps if none are resisted and building aggro for himself
My opinion is that a bard who is dedicating his time to personally inflicting damage chose the wrong profession.
My opinion is that a bard who is dedicating his time to personally inflicting damage chose the wrong profession.
2 posts
That might be true, but bards are suppose to do 65% of *melee* damage that a warrior does, not overall. So it is correct when saying a well equipped bard still does 50%ish of a comparably equipped warrior.
This and Gorganga Spear are 2 awesome weps for bards put Symphonic in offhand bust out your katta song or put this offhanfd your beast drums in primary sing katta and haste song I mean katta add 90 dex with a drum :)
Heh. Seriously out of all the bard songs Katta's is one of the last I would play. Mainly helps with procs. And unless you have some uber leet sweet procs a different song would be smarter in most cases.
imho
imho
6 posts
/Bonk. Gorganga Spear is 2HP so can not be duel weilded.
I play a bard, and at only a mer lvl 37, I dont touch my Yaks anymore. This this is awsome for a bard to have in hand. But any bard who is swinging this weapon is crazy. Not only is the ratio great. But look the damage the Proc does. Bards already get a lot of argos, and are normal dead shortly after the tank drops. But to have this, and have it procing would make you die before the tank really fast. Talk about a Bane/Boon weapon. Awsome weapon, Death for a Bard to actualy use.
Severon 52 Lvl wizard
Corey 37 Lvl Bard
Severon 52 Lvl wizard
Corey 37 Lvl Bard
43 posts
At level 54, I wouldn't hesitate to use this on a raid. If I can steal agro from the main assist tank because this weapon proced, then that tank is just pathetic. I can steal agro with songs far easier than I ever could with a weapon like this.
37 posts
Well hopefully, a bard who is using this weapon will already know how to control aggro. I always keep Song of Dawn (which reduces our hate) for those moments that the mob takes an interest in me.
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
9 posts
LOL! Listen to all you rogues whine and moan. sheesh! Now ask yourself, would you be doing this if this were not a piercing wpn? NO! The fact that this wpn is piercing is inconsequential. The reason it has the stats it does is BECAUSE it's a bard only wpn. Look at some of the wpns casters get - look at the ratios on those. VI has obviously decided anything over 15 for a rogue would be overpowered - live with it. All this whining, while you guys are the biggest consistant damage dealers in the game. LOL! *must.....have......more........damage /gasp /die*
Bards overpowered?! LOL! Play one up to high level sometime. Then let me know ;P Our melee is SO weak guys - get a grip. Wpns like this only kind of make up for the fact we have no double attack, of any level. And this is what? One wpn like this we have access to? If you happen to be in a guild that can take it and he happens to drop it? Hardly like this thing is gonna be farmed. If I ever see 1 of these to every 100 RB's I'll be surprised.
Bards overpowered?! LOL! Play one up to high level sometime. Then let me know ;P Our melee is SO weak guys - get a grip. Wpns like this only kind of make up for the fact we have no double attack, of any level. And this is what? One wpn like this we have access to? If you happen to be in a guild that can take it and he happens to drop it? Hardly like this thing is gonna be farmed. If I ever see 1 of these to every 100 RB's I'll be surprised.
46 posts
Acually, if this where a 1hs and 1hb I would use it, so shut juu mouth, rogues don't need piercing weapons to use them right! Hell, there are about 4 or 6 1hb that I would love to have right now! 1hs is killer to!
51 Rogue
Terris Thule
"I steal from dead people"
51 Rogue
Terris Thule
"I steal from dead people"
6 posts
MJM, yer a n00b so shaddap. rogues are good for one thing and one thing only: backstab. learn that or quit yer rogue . . . otherwise you're just wasting people's time.
oh man, you kill me "chubbchubb". rogue's are only good for backstabs? we're gonna need the jaws of life to pull yer head outta yer ***. play one, live it, learn it, then post. rinse and repeat.
16 posts
Offhand doesn't need to be piercing, Moron.
37 posts
I wish all you rogues out there would just quit your crying. Isnt it enough that your epics are practically handed out to you. Most of you rogues say that there are no good luclin rogue only weapons out there. Go look at this
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8747
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8747
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
16 posts
the thing that makes me realy sick is how even the crappier SoL rogue piercers you have to be lvl 50 to go after its just not fair to the lesser rogues, especialy those not in an uber guild...oh and could we have a rogue piercer other than our epic with a decent proc? i meen comon now, how many more o our breastplates is VI gonna use invigorate on? get creative and make something worth working for verant!
I've no idea why you posted this under a bard only weapon.
1 post
Whoever said that giving a rogue a 17 damage weapon would mean 6k+ backstabs are you out of you mind? have you ever played a rogue? I have and mines 60. if you use a 13 damage piercer your max goes down from 553 to like the mid 400's so all a 17 dmg piercer would give as a max is probable low low 700's or high 600's. I mean when duelist quadruples weapon base damage your backstab max is only 2x as much during it. This would in no way unbalance rogues, just verant hates us. they keep buffing monks to the point where they just about outdamage us(if i dont get a couple of good backstabs they do outdamage me) Log was parsed vs tunare i did about 32k monks doing about 31k but i digress.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 17 2002 at 4:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) is all VI bards or somthing? i only here about them getting more powerfull, never nerfed, i know bards prolly have SOME downsides, and im NEARLY willing to belive that they are balenced with the other classes, But if a Rogue cant use it... ITs NOT A RAPIER. *sigh*
12 posts
who the hell cares if you get aggro with this thing? If you are a bard fortunate enough to be in a guild able to nail this weapon, you probably have the gear to out-tank any MT you can pull aggro away from. If you happen to end up in a pickup group where yer MT can't hold aggro, I am willing to bet your AC is higher than his. in guild groups, the warrior will probably have his own uberweapon (sod, whatever) and be more than able to hold taunt. As for raids? There's no chance in hell that you are going to outtaunt the MT. Awesome weapon, can't wait.
Tawnos, 60 bard
Shtar 52 Monk
Tawnos, 60 bard
Shtar 52 Monk
How did you get your 2 high level characters? Buy them?? First off on a high end raid if you pull aggro off the MT your screwed, its all about aggro control. From what I gather of your post you think there is some direct correlation between AC and aggro and there is not. In a guild high enough to get this, you pull aggro off MT for starters you repeat it often and more than likely find yourself without a guild and secondly will find yourself dead very quickly. If you think a bard can tank anywhere nearly as efficiently as a MT you are sadly mistaken.
Quote:
If you happen to end up in a pickup group where yer MT can't hold aggro, I am willing to bet your AC is higher than his.
What the hell is that implying??
Ccraxtd Skullz
Shaman of Second Rising
Tallon Zek
Edited, Thu Feb 14 05:16:22 2002
Quote:
If you happen to end up in a pickup group where yer MT can't hold aggro, I am willing to bet your AC is higher than his.
What the hell is that implying??
Ccraxtd Skullz
Shaman of Second Rising
Tallon Zek
Edited, Thu Feb 14 05:16:22 2002
12 posts
Hey Ccraxtd, you are an idiot.
There's no way in hell my bard is going to end up with aggro in TOV. That's the point. As to your complete inability to understant my point on AC I'll say it again slowly for you.
If you can outtaunt yout MT in your exp group with this weapon you (a) need a new MT because he sucks or (b) mise well just tank the SOB anyway since the warrior prob does not have armor as good as a bard who would own this weapon.
Perhaps you should go give pointers on when to stand up and slow something and leave the talk about the more complicated classes to your betters.
Tawnos, 60 Bard
Shtar, 52 Monk
There's no way in hell my bard is going to end up with aggro in TOV. That's the point. As to your complete inability to understant my point on AC I'll say it again slowly for you.
If you can outtaunt yout MT in your exp group with this weapon you (a) need a new MT because he sucks or (b) mise well just tank the SOB anyway since the warrior prob does not have armor as good as a bard who would own this weapon.
Perhaps you should go give pointers on when to stand up and slow something and leave the talk about the more complicated classes to your betters.
Tawnos, 60 Bard
Shtar, 52 Monk
10 posts
Bards have very different aggro control issues than shaman; a Bard doesn't "pull" aggro off a MT... a bard never has trouble with aggro once a tank establishes 'control'. Deaths are 100% in the first 10 seconds before 'control' is established... or during transitions.
At a certain point, with 1350 ac, 4000 hits, and the AA defensive skills... you just aren't that concerned about taking aggro against normal stuff... (and any bard getting this weapon is GOING to have something like that!)
24 posts
This is where VI screwed up...wrong classes getting the good stuff... Here are some examples
Bonecurse
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8916
Silber Dagger of Destruction
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6864
what did rogues get at the halloween event...a 4 17? /rude yay I have a downgrade from my locustlure and tombcarver :P
Bonecurse
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8916
Silber Dagger of Destruction
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6864
what did rogues get at the halloween event...a 4 17? /rude yay I have a downgrade from my locustlure and tombcarver :P
37 posts
Once again I will point you to:
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8747
Now if you read about this rogue only piercer, you will notice no other class has gone there yet and cried that they deserve to get to use it =0P
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8747
Now if you read about this rogue only piercer, you will notice no other class has gone there yet and cried that they deserve to get to use it =0P
Gabrielle Kazoo
55th Troubadour
Drinal Server
40 posts
thommus yer a level 34 rogue. i would highly doubt you will ever see items of this quality anyhow...
there is a reason why you arent allowed to use wepons like this. with 17dmg and 20dly on a peircer you would get backstabs 6k+ or more and doing that much dmg too early on in a big fight would be instant aggro and no way a MT can pull the big mob thats quading you for 800+ off ya. shut up until you know what your askin for. just remember the old saying "becareful what you wish you YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT"
#REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 14 2002 at 2:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) stfu morons...everything should be for rogues right? everything should be for your class right? there are class-only weps to make every class happy so stfu and go get your rogue-only you whining nooob ****. put your daddy's credit card away and slowly back away from the computer
29 posts
Damnit. This is the--what--fourth item I have seen and thought YEAH! Awesome! and then I see its usable by casters, bards, tanks, MONKS, and have I seen even ONE kick *** item for rogues yet? NO! I bet 1kpp that the first nice Rogue usable item(nice meaning a ratio liek this one) will be a bloody frekking 1hb.
-Thommus Ranbou
Hobbit Thief of the 34th Vial
<hand of Mana> The Nameless
-Thommus Ranbou
Hobbit Thief of the 34th Vial
<hand of Mana> The Nameless
11 posts
I don't know.. Rei's battleworn dirk does it for me. Then again I'm still working on my epic, I'm sure your 34th level uberness is already past that. ;)
I'm more concerned with the fact that this weapons name should be on a rogue weapon. We do our quest for a burning rapier, and the bards rob us of it's big brother? This upsets me, deep down, on the inside. Go bards, i guesss...
I'm more concerned with the fact that this weapons name should be on a rogue weapon. We do our quest for a burning rapier, and the bards rob us of it's big brother? This upsets me, deep down, on the inside. Go bards, i guesss...
Scholar
18 posts
Hey there,
You have to keep things in perspective. Every class has a rise and fall in equipment as verant tries to balance things. Rogues were already the highest damaging class in EQ and some others (like bards) fell behind the curve and no longer performed as they were intended to.
Much like in early EQ casters were very strong, even overpowered by most comparisons, but the equipment for melees has favored those who needed the boost.
The game evolves, balance sways back and forth seeking continual equilibrium as new equipment is added. Rogues should be quite delighted at their amazing role in EQ and their damage output and stop obsessing over what everyone else gets to help them reach balanced.
A bard with this weapon will NEVER outdamage a rogue in melee, so rest easy and try and enjoy the game.
Obsessing over what others get is pointless, especially when you are playing one of the favored EQ classes already.
You have to keep things in perspective. Every class has a rise and fall in equipment as verant tries to balance things. Rogues were already the highest damaging class in EQ and some others (like bards) fell behind the curve and no longer performed as they were intended to.
Much like in early EQ casters were very strong, even overpowered by most comparisons, but the equipment for melees has favored those who needed the boost.
The game evolves, balance sways back and forth seeking continual equilibrium as new equipment is added. Rogues should be quite delighted at their amazing role in EQ and their damage output and stop obsessing over what everyone else gets to help them reach balanced.
A bard with this weapon will NEVER outdamage a rogue in melee, so rest easy and try and enjoy the game.
Obsessing over what others get is pointless, especially when you are playing one of the favored EQ classes already.
14 posts
this makes me wanna make a bard
i feel bad for the Rogues though...can you imagine how this would be?
ive noticed verant put alot of Tease items in...things that go for This one class, that would be Oh So nice for this Other, closely related class (a 45/10 1hs weapon cleric only) not that this is a real weapon, but dammit! it looks like it... its just so Crazy! there was some wizzard weapon with a better dam/dly then my epic...its just not right
/rude VI
Verant interactive Teases Wraithguard Mercilessly
Wraithguard says: 'AHH no! make it stop!
i feel bad for the Rogues though...can you imagine how this would be?
ive noticed verant put alot of Tease items in...things that go for This one class, that would be Oh So nice for this Other, closely related class (a 45/10 1hs weapon cleric only) not that this is a real weapon, but dammit! it looks like it... its just so Crazy! there was some wizzard weapon with a better dam/dly then my epic...its just not right
/rude VI
Verant interactive Teases Wraithguard Mercilessly
Wraithguard says: 'AHH no! make it stop!
Jeez...
Burning Pain
DoT for between 336 (L1) to 588 (L60) Hit Points (HP) in 21 ticks
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
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Resistance Check: Fire
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Spell Duration: 21 ticks (2.1 minutes)
Duration Formula: 1
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Spell cast on you: Your blood boils.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's blood boils.
Spell fades: Your blood cools.
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Burning Pain
DoT for between 336 (L1) to 588 (L60) Hit Points (HP) in 21 ticks
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
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Range to Target: 200 feet
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Resistance Check: Fire
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Spell Duration: 21 ticks (2.1 minutes)
Duration Formula: 1
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Spell cast on you: Your blood boils.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso's blood boils.
Spell fades: Your blood cools.
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Scholar
25 posts
/moan
/drool
My wife is a bard, and I would love to see her weilding this sweet piece of power.... and I will always ALWAYS as a rogue drool over this thing. /rude verant for being paranoid of rogue damage if we had somethin' over 15dmg... esp with the high end mobs anymore having 100+khps it seems... and the coding for preventing low-level characters from equipping it (or atleast getting full benefit from it. heh)
/drool
My wife is a bard, and I would love to see her weilding this sweet piece of power.... and I will always ALWAYS as a rogue drool over this thing. /rude verant for being paranoid of rogue damage if we had somethin' over 15dmg... esp with the high end mobs anymore having 100+khps it seems... and the coding for preventing low-level characters from equipping it (or atleast getting full benefit from it. heh)
3 posts
/cry
/scream Why OH why is this Bard only!!!!!
My Rogue wants so bad.
/scream Why OH why is this Bard only!!!!!
My Rogue wants so bad.
20 posts
This is bard only because there is no other way a guild would let a bard get a weapon this good! Thank god Verant finally smartened up!
33 posts
ROFL yeah i never thought... bards get ripped on that. sure they can use a great range of weapons but like any guild would ever let a bard loot one over a more qualified class.
12 posts
haha this = dead bard
not really....smart bard = uber with this
and if they absolutely can't keep aggro off themselves with this in primary can always just put it to secondary and problem solved...
and if they absolutely can't keep aggro off themselves with this in primary can always just put it to secondary and problem solved...
40 posts
Actually im a 58 bard with 1338 attack and tanks im my group still have no problem keeping aggro even tho i have 2 procing weapons why you ask? cause i know how to manage my aggro... if a mob turns around and whacks me once then goes back to the tank... i make sure im still lower by singing my song of dawn(same as ranger jolt) I put out quite a bit of damage and never have a problem... this weapon in the hands of a good bard would be quite deadly... for the mob :)
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