Whelp if you like to melee as a shaman check the link on this weapon from Umbral Plains (hope the link works) think I'm going to have to get this just for fun! I'd love to see what I hit for with my str at 260 hehe!!
As a 61 Shaman if i buff up and cripple to mob i can hit for 162 with this, question is is it worth it. Most of the stuff I'm soloing Hobgoblins etc laugh at that and respond with a couple of 375's in return. its far more efficent to sit back and canni while dog does the fighting.
I gotta disagree with this formula. As written, my chance to hit will INCREASE as the MoBs AC goes up.
For example, say my attack is 500 (weak!) and the MoB's AC is 750: 2(750)/(500/15) = 1500 / 33.3333 = 45
When the MoB's AC is 1000, my weak attack is: 2(1000) / (500/15) = 2000 / 33.3333 = 60
I don't have any info on the actual formula, this just seemed wrong to me. Possibly the TargetAC and the SelfAtk numbers should be reversed, then at least the chance to hit will scale correctly
Urach is right.. with that formula, the higher the mob's AC is, the higher your supposed chance to hit is. It's not correct, especially when you put in 500AC for the mob and 990 ATK for yourself and it comes out as a 15% chance to hit..
Ive asked this question in game 100 times, nobody knows what exactly Atk does and I cant find on any website. I know it has something to do with attack speed or something. The funny thing is, is I have a lvl 60 and still dont know and everyone seems to make a big deal out of it when I cast Savagery (lvl 60 Bst buff) on them but they dont cant explain what it does. Lol I bet most people dont know, they just know Atk is good because everyone says it is. Well anyways, it bugging the you know what out of me and if you can answer this I promise to pass your info to every other lvl 60 newbie out there =)
As said before me attk is compared to AC to see chance to hit and also at some point its like 4 attk (or somethin like that) equals 1 dmg added to each hit... may be more attk than that can't remember
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Posted:Jul 21 2002 at 10:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is so lame, warriors should be able to use this, after all, verant makes ALL the good 1h and 2h weapons for priest classes and SK/Paladins, 40/38 1h is godly especially in offhand and a fast weapon in the main hand and YES i know its priest class only so dont go calling me dumb for saying a priest could use this, if only warriors could use it -sigh- i'd give up everything i got in the next few years for this, if i could use it
If like me you don't yet have your Epic then this is well worth grabbing. It went to someone else in last night's raid, but I'll certainly raise my hand next time it drops. And yes the stats on it are correct.
Druid's epic is in every way imaginable superior to this item. Just another wis caster booby price, most of ya will have your epic by the time you kill this mob (certainly druids and shamans will).
Just got one of these on Friday. It was an uber upgrade to my Dark Ember. The stats are truly godley. BTW I'm a 55 level druid on the Rathe. Even after I get my leaf blower, this will be in my inventory for a long time.
This is a wonderful weapon for a soloing shaman (or has been for me.) I've had it for only a day, but have already hit for 159 with it. Makes for some nice damage between casts. I have a way to go getting my 1hb skill to 200, but even now I hit blues a lot more than I wiff. It looks like a flanged mace (4 flanges) with a textured steel surface.
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Im a cleric and both my melee skills are maxed....shaman max thier pierce mainly and not blunt..please dont leave out the one that would benifit from this
Actually most shamans tend to max out most if not all their melee stats, and many do it very early. They actually tend to do a lot of meleeing solo. And I'd rather see a shaman meleeing than a cleric any day. Both their melee powers are trivial at higher levels anyway, compared to a real melee.
I don't know that I would switch out my shaman epic for this though. Maybe would be some really nice hits between JBB casts in exp groups or solo -- has twice the melee damage of epic, but epic has many non-damage stats, and better.
I am a cleric and I`d switch my epic out for this during duels etc...Very nice dmg/delay, ESPECIALLY since its 1hb, which means you can have a nice sexy shield on too.
BUT...
If a shaman with the AA ability Rabid Bear wanted this I`d pass for sure. Shamans can do assloads of melee damage with Rabid Bear, this would make it even more. Still a nice cleric/druid weapon tho.
I occasionaly hit in the 140's with this weapon, but I also whiff a fair amount of the time. My max hit is 147 with self storm str buff (against a red ToV mob). My 1hb is maxed at 175.
Sounds about right. My cleric, lvl 55, maxed 1hb, even str buffed, can take forever to melee mobs in the teens with his epic, with this, heck, maybe I could finaly melee something in it's 20's!
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Posted:Feb 05 2002 at 10:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What drops this, what level is it, u know all the goodies....how much it hits for, if it casts and what it casts. Anything will help...thank you
And I think something people are overlooking is that this is 1h blunt, which still leaves other slot for a nice shield or held weapon with nice stats... also anyone know what graphic this weapon has?
some are overlooking the new luclin skill that shaman have recieved.. the rabid bear. this boosts all melee abilities and stats to turn us into... killing machines.. well maybe not but we can dream nice for when ya got 3 or more 60+ shaman on the raid.. only need 2-3 to keep the big mobs slowed so the others could melee.. phear the shaman dmg hoho kk thx drive thru
This weapon is real - I have seen one wielded by a Druid on one of our raids. I asked him about the name and stats since it wasn't in the Allakhazam database at the time. It was this weapon.
For those priests that keep melee skills up (shamen and the occasional druid), this could cause some major damage. Can imagine a druid fear kiting some animals and pounding away on them with this. In a proper group the priests can jump in and have some fun seeing hundreds roll out from their melee attacks too.
For those priests that keep melee skills up (shamen and the occasional druid),
I'm not quite sure how long ago this post was as opposed to the new spells, but Cleric's get a 14/18 with +25 to DEX and a 50-150 (I think) high-frequency DD proc... I see clerics meleeing with that hammer ALL the time in low-tension situations. I wouldn't be surprised if many clerics have higher 1hb and offense skills. I know mine are both above 150.
i am pessimistic about the validity of this weapon. i cant see verent giving us wis casters this kind of damage ratio unless it would be dropped off of a uber duber god boss dude!
They have similar good ratios on int caster weapons. Priest melee sucks so bad at the level you'd get this that the ratio is just a glorified toy which is useful when you kill an orc.
Its basically a good primary hand holdable, if you don't have your epic yet.
It probably comes off an uber duber god boss dude also ;)