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Spiked Rubicite Mantle  
 


Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 12
DEX: +6 STA: +6 AGI: +6 HP: +85
SV DISEASE: +2
Required level of 51.
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:20 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:15223
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 09:08:32
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008



Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is found on creatures.

Cazic-Thule 2.0
NPC Name
a barbed scale piranha



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Zone Name
Cazic-Thule 2.0
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Current price on 7TH Hammer (Lanys T`Vyl)
# Nov 13 2005 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
Ranges from 30K to 50K, only 3 in bazaar, that was two days ago. Now that I logged in they're gone. Seems Rogues like them that much... hehe.
Dropped 10/5
# Oct 06 2004 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
I got one last night. I popped into CT to look for lizard bloods and theres two fish at the zone in stuck in a wall. So after fiteen minutes of Dot's the bugger finally dies and I loot this mantle. These fish seemed to have insane regen, im wondering if it was because they are stuck in a wall or mybe they are just insanely tough.
1. How do I pull fish to zone in.
2. Who wants to buy this from me on Kayne Bayle for a reasonable price?
Price
# Mar 30 2004 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
Sold one of these for 45K last week on 7th Hammer.
Drop
# Mar 11 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
Drop today
Its tradable
Spiked Rubicite Mantle
# Mar 03 2004 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
Does this drop anymore and what is the going price atm?
Rubicite
# Nov 06 2003 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
Yes they aren't nodrop I have one on my trader right now on Stromm.
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# Apr 30 2003 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
Droppable, 60 - 70k on antonius bayle if you can find one for sale
Droppable?
# Mar 01 2003 at 7:30 PM Rating: Default
So you can confirm these are not No Drop? They can be traded and sold? Well, maybe ill invest some money for some a new mantle then
No longer No drop
# Jan 14 2003 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
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A group of Guildies and I were hunting in there for fun, and the named fish popped (which see thru invis) and we killed it, it dropped the mantle, but it wasnt no drop, I won it and sold it for 80k. Just thought you would like to know .
Drops from a Barbed Scale Pirahna
# May 25 2002 at 6:28 PM Rating: Excellent
Down in the intermediate pool on the way to the Green Pool.
GIVE SOME INFO ON ITEM!
# Apr 02 2002 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
Anyone like to tell me what mob this was found on..It's a very nice piece and would love to get to the mob that drops it.I hunt there almost everyday and love what they did to the zone.So please so many of us arent aware of what these items are dropped off of and would like to know.If people could stick to the item at the top of page sure would be nice.I keep reading all these items I havent seen drop in zone but never see what it was found off of.Just people talking about this and that.Obviously whoever posted the item knows.SO POST DAMNIT!
getting too narrow !
# Mar 21 2002 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
My anonymity only adds to my lack of concern about whether people hear what I have to say or not. And I post the way I do cause it's more fun that way sometims. If you still don't get it, oh well, I'm not gonna tell you any more.
he's right
# Mar 12 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Default
I agree with the post made by Johnnyspot...when u get to the higher lvls, pieces like this are EXACTLY what rogues need....i think this is a great item and i am glad to see that VI is making an effort to create items and refine the game into something better by redoing zones like CT
bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 12 2002 at 12:01 PM Rating: Default
Hey guess what Fattius...you don't know what you're talking about! That's right, you and your locustlure and bloodpoint toting 52 rogue shouldn't even be worried about entering this zone for several, several months. You would be useless there, and you would get destroyed. It's a tough zone. Also, once you get to the high end game, which is where you need to be to step into this place, you'll see that HP are very good for rogues. Much better than strength, or agility, or dex.

I would trade all those stats in for more sta and hp. I'll even tell you why. When you're raiding and fighting a tough mob with an ae, rogues need to take as little damage as possible, so that they can be healed as little as possible. That means you need resists and HP, not str and agi and dex.

This zone was not designed for your level, and so it shouldn't really concern you what is dropping there. This item gives 109 hp, and more if you have points in durability. That's a quality shoulder item.

Go ahead and get a little band of your level 50 friends to go "talk to Verant". They'll laugh in your face, along with most of the population of level 60 rogues out there.

Edited, Tue Mar 12 12:03:17 2002
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 14 2002 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Johnny, I really have to wonder if when you are talking about the level 60 game you are a level 60 yourself? Rogues are DD melee, that's what they are good for. Now when you are in a raid sitution and fighting things that have AE spells like the new improved CT, you are correct that a rogue is looking for high HPs/Stam/Resists. They will still be putting out massive damage, just not their maximum potential. Of course, a rouge not putting out maximum potential is putting out more damage than a dead rogue Har har har. As a cleric, I always appreciate a rogue with high HP and Resists against an AE mob because it's very inefficent to heal them, along with any other DD melee class. We can agree on these points. *However*, a rogue will not always be in a raid situtation with mobs chain casting AE spells, such as the good ol' xp grinding you do in Velks, Seb, Fungus Grove, yadda yadda. For situations like this, a good rogue should really not be getting hit with the exception of an occasional missed evade or the occasion AE spell if you find a caster. In situations such as this, a rogue should be looking for the highest damage out-put, and this entails having high atk/str/dex. Many rouges that I know have different sets of equipment for different situations, much like every other class in the game does. Personally I have my everyday wisdom gear for grinding, then AC/HP/Stam/Resist gear for raiding, and CHA gear for faction hunting. Now to address the original post as to why rogues have a 9 int helm. All sets of equipment that have stat modifiers (planes, velious, twilight, temple of ro, etc) are designed to be 'balanced'. Every set of equipment for every class has str/sta/agi/dex/wis/int/cha somewhere on one of the pieces in the set, regardless of how important the stat may seem to the class that's wearing it. In the perfect world, every piece of cleric equipment would be ac/sta/agi/wis/hp/manaresists.... but what fun would the game be then? This way clerics can have str for blacksmithing if they choose or carry something around if they wish, have some dex if they want to proc something in melee (dawnfire anyone?), int for just feeling smarter, and cha for selling or some of our spells (divine intervention, pacify, atone, etc). This makes your character more balanced than some godly powerhouse, and I actually prefer it that way.
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 15 2002 at 5:52 AM Rating: Default
Candente, while you're slightly more knowledgable than our friend Fattius here, you also don't know what you're talking about.

Yes I'm level 60. Yes I'm a rogue. I was a rogue when they were still broken, when ID didn't work, when there was no evade, when sense and disarm traps had no purpose whatsoever, when there were about 3 total lock pickable doors in the game, and when people would ask me "why the hell are you playing a rogue? they suck."

First of all, no, rogue sets of armor do not give every stat. Planar armor has no wis or cha. Mrylokar's armor actually gives negative int cha and wis. And Velious quest armor? None of those stats at all.

And you talk about how rogues would wear resist gear for the new CT. No, no they wouldn't. Cause you can't resist his incredibly annoying large snare ae.

I have a primal spear, which procs avatar for those of you who don't know, so I have 255 str/dex/agi at almost all times when I'm fighting. High strength doesn't increase your total damage output THAT MUCH. ATK does increase it more, and strength can help a little. ATK buffs are good for this, they increase it more than a little strength increase does. I have 2800 hp and 1250 ac, and get around 1400 atk when fighting...it's not the greatest, but it's pretty good. When a big mob turns toward me in a raid, I actually have time to get a Nimble discipline off and evade.

In Exp groups, if a tank goes down, I can do the tanking for him. And also I sometimes don't have a tank in my group. I don't always need one. Just today I fought with me and 2 other rogues as the only melees in a CT group, and I tanked a lot of the time, along with the other rogues. I can do groups in many places with just a healer and myself.

So, please go off to your cleric forums and talk about clericing, which hopefully you actually know something about, and stop trying to tell the rogues how to play their class.
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 19 2002 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Har har Johnny, it looks as if we have a little discussion going on here. Of course I would like to respond to what you said and perhaps my previous post made you feel as if I was attacking you. I was not I assure you, just talking about the way my equipment is set up and how I see other people that I group with (including rogues) do things. For a response I will quote some of you text in part and then construct my answer, I hope you don't mind.

- Yes I'm level 60. Yes I'm a rogue. I was a rogue when they were still broken, when ID didn't work, when there was no evade, when sense and disarm traps had no purpose whatsoever, when there were about 3 total lock pickable doors in the game, and when people would ask me "why the hell are you playing a rogue? they suck."

I too remember those times and am glad that Verant upgraded rogues to be much more efficent group members to have in your group. I love having a rogue... actually I love having three rogues in an experience group if I can pull it off =)

- First of all, no, rogue sets of armor do not give every stat. Planar armor has no wis or cha. Mrylokar's armor actually gives negative int cha and wis. And Velious quest armor? None of those stats at all.

First of all, I didn't include the Kunark sets in my example (Mrylokar's) because the entire armor set is not a stat-boosting armor set. Nothing in the Kunark sets for any classes has bonuses other than AC except for the Chest/Legs slots, and it would be unbalancing to the set in general if they tossed every possible stat modifier on just those two pieces. Velious quest armor has stat modifiers on all of the pieces for all classes. Do a search on Brigand's (Thurg) or the Kael/SS upgrades. As far as planes gear goes, Assassin's is exactly like Brigand's, and Woven Shadow has five wisdom on the legs (Woven Shadow Greaves I believe).

- And you talk about how rogues would wear resist gear for the new CT. No, no they wouldn't. Cause you can't resist his incredibly annoying large snare ae.

I was referring to the AE poison spells that the lizards now cast in the revamped version of the Temple of Cazic Thule. If you read my post I mention that specifically, but this could also include the magic check spells and some of the disease spells that are cast by mobs farther inside (like near the new Ring of Fire quest where the Avatar of Fire used to spawn).

- I have a primal spear, which procs avatar for those of you who don't know, so I have 255 str/dex/agi at almost all times when I'm fighting. High strength doesn't increase your total damage output THAT MUCH. ATK does increase it more, and strength can help a little. ATK buffs are good for this, they increase it more than a little strength increase does. I have 2800 hp and 1250 ac, and get around 1400 atk when fighting...it's not the greatest, but it's pretty good. When a big mob turns toward me in a raid, I actually have time to get a Nimble discipline off and evade.

I would like to remind you that this thread started off the posting of a level 52 rogue named Fattius. Unless he is in one insanely powerful guild, I am doubting that he has the means to obtain a primal velium spear (or anything else from Sleeper's Tomb for that matter). Also, he does not have the same disciplines that you do due to the level constraint.

- In Exp groups, if a tank goes down, I can do the tanking for him. And also I sometimes don't have a tank in my group. I don't always need one. Just today I fought with me and 2 other rogues as the only melees in a CT group, and I tanked a lot of the time, along with the other rogues. I can do groups in many places with just a healer and myself.

If your tank is going down in experience groups, then you need a better healer. I don't know what server you play on because you forgot to include your posts with any kind of signature, but if you ever need a great cleric to help you in your camp, just do a /who candente all and see if I'm on and maybe lfg. I don't doubt that you can tank well if the need presents itself, but as far as effectiveness goes, a warrior with 4-5k+ HPs and 1500+ AC is going to provide a much more efficent CH for your cleric and you will be doing much more damage from behind the mob (at least that's what I have heard).

- So, please go off to your cleric forums and talk about clericing, which hopefully you actually know something about, and stop trying to tell the rogues how to play their class.

Nowhere in my post did I suggest how a rogue should play their class, let alone tell them how to do it. I simply offered my advice to rogues reading this based on what I see other high-end rogues do and what they tell me they do. If you re-read my post, I say things like "rogues I know have different sets of gear for different situations". I did not realize that being a cleric meant that I could only post things to help fellow clerics. Perhaps if someone had informed me that Allakhazam's was a rogue only posting board I would have went to a different one. Do you have an address so I can get on the right page to post? I have been posting information all over this place to try and help people in other classes that may not know something and ask for information. I apologize for this lapse of judgement, I do not possibly know what I was thinking. I shall try in the future to write scathing remarks when people ask questions or are out of the loop to make them feel like idiots for posting. Why help people when you can insult them, right? No more posts from you other rogues until you have the same equip as Johnnyspot, the nameless rogue on the unknown server.

Edited, Tue Mar 19 13:47:58 2002
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 19 2002 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
"Now when you are in a raid sitution and fighting things that have AE spells like the new improved CT" is what you said, I'm sure you can understand how this is a bit unclear. It sounds like you're talking about the mob. If you had said "like IN the new improved CT" it would have been obviously meaning the zone.

And the point that I was making to that original rogue dude was that he was level 52, and should not be anywhere near this zone. Obviously he's not going to have a primal spear. But he's criticizing an item from a zone for people who have a good chance of having primals, and he's only criticizing it because it doesn't cater to HIS needs. I was simply stating in a smartassedy manner that he doesn't need to worry about what drops here, and that this is a good item for the people who actually DO fight here.

I actually got an even better mantle from here. It's called a barbed rubicite coif, which I think would be better for any rogue. Take a look if you like...I THINK they have it on this site now, but I'm not sure.

And yes you're correct, WS legs have wis, but my point was that they don't give every stat on most sets of armor. WS has no CHA. And thank you for the lesson on Velious armor, but I don't know why you're mentioning it. Velious armor doesn't give int, wis or cha is all I said. You mention it as one of the sets that gives all stats. Yes all pieces give some stats...that was never an issue though. Thank you but I don't need to do searches to know these things.

And my tank does not go down very often in EXP groups, but it's easily handled if he does.

I love how you act like you know so much by mentioning such trite little details about such simple things. "Look at me everyone, I know what resist check is used in the old AoF room! I know what Thurgadin rogue armor is called too cause I just looked it up on this site!", flaunting your meaningless knowledge like the first kid in 5th grade to grow a ****. There's no reason to go into so much detail other than to try to act somewhat intelligent.

I am however glad that you understand how you're not supposed to post here. Thank you for your understanding. And here's the forum you can go to so you can talk about clerics and stuff: www.cohj00allday.com

Or you can try the forums at www.realultimatepower.net !
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 16 2002 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
All discussion of high end rogues and what gear they need put aside jonnyspot,....It seems like you know what your talking about, what im wondering is it necessary to be a condescending prick when talking to people about what you know?
people are much more apt to listen if you try to teach them something, rather than just trying to sound superior to them. It seems to me that your rogue skills and social skills are inversely related....
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 16 2002 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
Cause people pass off information like they actually know what they're talking about, and they don't. The whole complaint about rogues not needing hit points made me laugh quite a bit. I made this account just to reply to it.

Could I have phrased it more nicely? Obviously yes. But I could care less if you people think I'm being an *** or not. I'd rather be an *** who knows what he's talking about than an idiot passing off false information to others.

So you talking about me being one of those isn't too much different than me saying they are the other.
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 19 2002 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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You should care a little bit about whether or not people see you as an '***'. You are a very knowledgable player as I can deduct from your postings on this thread. However, anyone that you might offend in your rantings will probably not focus on the information that you offer, but rather on the negative aspects of it and give it a poor score rating. I do not believe that you just posted here for the hell of it but rather to express your views about rogues to the rogue community. It is hard to do that if people have their filter set on default and it sifts your posts out as not being of adequate 'quality', and we can't have that (otherwise my responses sound quite stupid since I'm just talking to myself).

If I may get off topic for a moment please, I would like to encourage people to rate posts as excellent that they find useful and informative, or posts that present good arguement and have many valid points to stir up conversation and better understanding of the game. Conversely, if a post is a bunch of non-sense or drivel, give it a bad score so that it will be taken out of rotation and so will other posts made later by the same user. If you want to get away from the meaningless posts, set your filter to a higher rating (Good or better) as well as the filter on expanding on such posts. I myself gave Johnny Spot an Excellent rating because he has some good points, however others have dropped it down to near Awful =(. Using the rating system will keep the well-drawn out posts up and keep the 'U suxx012 n00b, 1 r0xx012!' posts in obscurity. Thank you.
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 19 2002 at 6:16 PM Rating: Default
Dude...my worst nightmare is to have a bad post rating on Allakhazam's message board! How did you know?!

And actually I did post here just for the hell of it. I don't exactly care too much if the "rogue community" hears me or not. I was bored, I was reading lame posts, and I found a particularly lame rogue who was out of his league and being dumb. So I post. This is all.
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Mar 21 2002 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Come now brother (sister?) rogue, you do not actually believe your own words do you? Everyone wishes to have their opinions/views/gripes heard and understood. There is no reason for you to post a rebute to 'a particularly lame rogue who was out of his league and being dumb' if you didn't have some kind of point you were trying to convey. After looking back through a friend of mine's equip (Woven Shadow armor) I see now that you are correct it has no CHA found anywhere on the armor. Most classes do have all stats found on it somewhere, so I would assume that rogues had the same kind of deal. For this assumption I apologize as you are correct. You being 'bored' has taught me something, and I appreciate your efforts in doing such. To however post that my facts are of a '5th grader' trying to show off I have the first **** are amusing however, since most of my post was contrived in a response to your 'facts'. If I am trying to show my 'intelligence' by posting relative information to the subject matter contained in your thread, then what, pray-tell, type of label should we put upon the knowledge that you supply? Are they not one in the same? If you would like to flame someone, please try to remember that if not done tactfully all it does is reflect on the true intelligence of you, not the person you are trying to offend. I would much rather not offend anyone, but keep this site helpful and informative (including healthy debate and conflicting opinion). I encourage you to continue posting nameless rogue on the unknown server, as you seem to know a great deal about your class and the game in general. However, please remember when responding to people that you yourself were once a lower level and did not have a primal velium spear. Was it not frustrating at times when equipment dropped that was supposed to be an 'upgrade' and seemed to have little purpose to your advancement to becoming a better rogue? Personally I remember when I started to get 'upgrades' that had resists and hps tacked onto it and was thinking 'wtf do I need resists and hps on a cleric for in a good group??? Where is the wisdom!?!?'. Stepping into HoT the first time I found out why =P. So if I see someone of a lower level asking why resists are so important, I will tell them of my experience instead of calling him a fool for not knowing. Which one seems like a more constructive use of time? I'm sure you can see Johnnyspot that the answer is clear =).
RE: bah! you're an idiot
# Jun 21 2002 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
wow... you two have entirely too much time on your hands
bah!
# Mar 11 2002 at 4:54 PM Rating: Default
now that im starting to get planar/mrylokar/velious gear, i've noticed the disturbing trend that high end rogue only gear doesnt even help str or dex hardly EVER!! ok WTF my planar head piece has 9int. why do i EVER need 9int?? why would they give me stats on int?!?! i mean i can understand agi, or heck even sta, but int?! Well my point is this: they make high end rogue only stuff with great AC and here with a nice hp bonus......but did they ever stop to think that a good rogue shouldn't even be getting hit? i mean, i have 879 ac at my lvl but i've sacrificed so much str and dex that i can't even backstab nearly as well with out buffs. And to make matters worse, i hardly even get hit anyways. if i had half the ac and 200str and 200dex unbuffed, i would be a better rogue then i am now. But verant doesnt seem to want to help us out at all in that area. instead i'm getting a rogue with high ac, decent sta and agi, but realitively poor str/dex. Why do they do this? if i get aggro for any length of time, im probably gonna die anyways. and its not like im asking for a lot. just 2str here 2dex there thrown on to an item. hell even subtract some AC for all i care. i think we need to talk to Verant about this frankly.

Fattius Ribsticker
52 rake of Drinal
RE: bah!
# Jun 06 2003 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
There will be a point soon, that you will notice, that the only time that you will want really high Str w/o buffs is agains dispell mobs. And even then, there are a few items when used correctly combat dispells.

Durring most raid and group situations with Velious/mrylokars gear you will always have max STR with buffs, no ammount of gear can make you go past that cap. Most times i will have Khura focus which always maxxes my str and nearly maxes Dex

Now, about Dex,,, If you read the safehouse pages or talk to experienced rogues, you will find out that dex does nothing towards making your melee abilities better. It does not determine how hard or how often you hit or backstab, those are all determined by your attack rating, and your skill in that melee classification.

But the one thing you will notice is that you will have very little HP and stamina than most other classes. Espessially if you are a gnome woodelf or a darkelf. All of your gear will be oriented at getting more HP and sta( for geting even more HP)

Because, it is alot harder to max out stamina with buffs, it takes avatar to max my stamina, and i have about 190 sta( being a darkelf) even with SoB i only hit a max of 230 sta w/o avatar

You can only get soo much HP/ the more your hp, and your resists are, the better you are agains AE's. And a wide variety of high end mobs(most imo) have AE's and if you only have say 3k hp with Virtue, your not going to last as long against a 1500 AE like mobs can have, some more.

Its the way of the game, only thing i worry about is getting more sta and hp, STR dex and aggi come with that, also AC.

Good lcuk, love this item.
Strength
# Mar 10 2002 at 5:05 PM Rating: Default
This is great, but how come VI seems to be hesistant to ever put any strength on Rogue only armor...there is hardly any on ravenscale. Dex Sta, and Agi are important stats for rogues, but strength is also a very important, especially if your a wood elf rogue, who doesn't start off with nice strength like a barbarian or dwarf. I'm not trying to say anything bad about this, just that it would nice to see some more +str rogue items
i can dream, can't i?
# Mar 09 2002 at 11:16 PM Rating: Default
i wonder if they'll put in more and varied rubicite(mebbe like old skool rubicite, no spikes....)
eh, i can always hope.

Dartagian
14 chanter Luclin
"Mostly untwinked since 2000"
wowo
# Mar 09 2002 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
i want one! to bad its no drop. ill actually have to get my lazy **** out of EC for this). oh well. maybe i can buy a rading group to get this, what do you think?)
...
# Mar 09 2002 at 3:52 AM Rating: Default
slash drool

All I have to say aboot that.
Interesting
# Mar 08 2002 at 8:32 PM Rating: Default
Rubicite is back, unreal. All I really want to know now is how deep into CT do I have to go to get this.

Knowing VI, however, this prolly drops off the boss of the third wave of the Ring of Fire at Avvy's old spawn point.

Still, nice to have a reason to go back.

Sinc
sweet
# Mar 08 2002 at 6:25 PM Rating: Default
and its no drop so no farming :)

looks like my rogue has new hunting grounds

Docc
RE: sweet
# Mar 18 2002 at 6:05 AM Rating: Excellent
It's not all no drop. I direct your attention to the Barbed Rubicite Coif. I'm not even sure if they have it on this site yet. It's called a coif, but it's really a shoulder item, and it's better than this rogue only one here. Also I saw a wis caster earring last week that wasn't no drop, I forget its name though. Had a counteract poison effect on it, and dropped of a named raptor in the 4c area.

It's farmable now, but most of the people who farm like that would get smacked around in this zone.

Edited, Mon Mar 18 06:04:05 2002
Farming
# Mar 08 2002 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
Oh it will still be farmed.
Just high level groups/guilds getting it for thier friends who just happen to be near by.
Well now.
# Mar 08 2002 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
This is a very nice Rogue shoulder item. Stamina and HP on a Rogue-only piece? Sheesh, perhaps someone at VI was paying attention after all.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 08 2002 at 7:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lets not go handing out boy scout patches just yet they still have alot to make up for
Rubicite
# Mar 08 2002 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
Yeay. Rubicite is back, and Rog only too. /cheer
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2002 at 8:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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